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basilico:
Zelensky needs to go. Trump had to do something drastic to make him acquiesce to ceasing hostilities. Putin like any other person is taking advantage of a weakened Ukraine to pound them harder.
That's not difficult to see.

I see why they accused me of being your alternate.

Spot on. Spot on.

basilico:
Minus the intelligence from US, the Ukraine heavy guns, artillery , anti air are silent. This is really a world war , I had never looked at it that way I remember once Russia threatening an American Orion spy plane over black sea and on another instance crashing into a predator drone. Those spy planes were monitoring Russia movements and relaying back the coordinates to Ukrainian forces. They won't allow Ukraine access to military grade encrypted comms, definitely there are US and UK special forces directing the fire cobtrol.
Let's just say Putin didn't get to escalate the war to those who are directing it.

Spot on. Zelensky rose to power on the promise of adhering fully to the Minsk agreement. He switched up right after winning but lied barefaced to Trump that Putin disregarded it. Not a soul in the media is talking about it. He said Putin didn't comply with the released prisoners, but Zelensky is on video RECEIVING said prisoners. Yet, not a dint of a word about it. I'm spelling it out to zombies obviously not you.

When it's Trump a rumour is the gospel truth. When it's the democrats you ought to give irrefutable proof.
Notice how everything this time is,experts predict recession, budget cuts will lead to medicare cuts ,pausing funds for transgendering mice is blocking cancer research , everything anti Trump is in the future

Will lead to...Has it led to it yet? No. So you believe it because of....the MEDIA. Buhahahaha. Zombie no go turn unless you tell am to turn, zombie. Zombie o, zombieeeeeeeeee.

All the same I'm not happy with the way things are going wrt to the deep state exposure. I hope they are not running out the clock before we get the truth about Russiagate, COVID
2020, 2022 and 2024 elections, Epstein list, 2 assassination attempts, George Soros machinery, etc. By now I was hoping at least sone top shots would have been questioned.

I am with you but I think the stakes are higher than we want to admit and Trump has tried for just 46 days. We almost forget this is just 1 month + and they've made strides.

That said, Bondi is another Bill Barr. She should be fired. Collins the Agricultural sec, fired as well. Compromised as hell.

I also agree that there's been some lull with the exposures but it is because they're going to attempt to kill Trump again. They are already calling for it. They're asking for another "Lee Harvey Oswald". That's why I said the Susan Rice thing will be demystified soon (per the media) because the attempt will fail and let's just say Zelebobo's days are numbered as well. So he is going to make trades for his life and those trades come with leaks.

PS: Lee Harvey Oswald did not kill JFK. I'm obviously not directing this at you.

Hey Donald -

Stop with the brainless posts about sanctions and tariffs.

Slow Biden tried it, and Russia got more prosperous and economically viable than prior to the war.

Just like you said to midget Zelensky, you too don't have the cards to end the war on Russia's end. You only need to force Volodymyr and his puppetmasters to sue for peace.

I know this was glossed over the other day but who gave the written speech that at least 22 Democrats regurgitated word for word on camera?

Who else noticed the similarity in the text messages put out on X by EU leaders after the Zelensky fiasco at the oval office?

This would have triggered smarter people into wondering what else they receive directly from the media that has been written down by the same deep state actors behind the scenes.

Think of "2 weeks to slow the spread"
"Follow the science"
"Vax and Masks"

And so on.

Curious or nah?

bemeruca:
The people wanted it closed

These fools continue to act like elections don't have consequences.

If you are approved by only 20% of the population, you have no right to insist that what you want must be done.

The winner has a mandate to do what he was voted for. I wonder why this is a difficult concept.

basilico:
The extent they go to protect democrats is ridiculous.
Post video ---How sure are you it's not AI generated.
Prove otherwise----. How do we know the speaker was not joking?
How do we know the speaker understood what he said,were you in his head?
This has been debunked already.
How does it help you.
Are you not a member of the cult.
You are known for supporting QAnon ...

Comical at times.

When Biden let slip that they had a very robust rigging machinery to prevent Trump from winning in 2020 - it was a Freudian slip.

He didn't mean it.
He's an old man.
He only had a stutter.

Same people pretending to ask for evidence.

Don't worry, when the log of that meeting with Zelensky is released, I guarantee you, the next argument will be:

- she didn't speak directly to him.
- she only spoke to everyone in the meeting
- she never specifically said reject the deal.
- she only said "do what your people are telling you".

I know the playbook.

Anyway, has anyone noticed Marco Rubio as well as the media feel free now to call the war a proxy war?

In 2022. I was called a conspiracy theorist for making the same claim.

basilico:
So if he doesn't get the video then Susan Rice has never met Zelensky?
Videos get scrubbed especially those not goid for democrats. Get me a video of Soros saying new world order, how he took the property of Jews being sent to the gas chamber.
I had postec it here, but it's no longer available. I have an offline copy though.

You're a lot more restrained than me. Kudos man.

Truth is, the other guy played these same tricks in 2020 when I had conversations with him around COVID-19 origins. I just didn't engage because I knew where it was headed. It is an echo chamber. They have to hear it from one particular source otherwise they'll dismiss it.

I just assumed they'll show more tact and pause this time around (based on how everything they stood for ended up being a lie). But instead, I'm seeing them show the same loyalty to the lame stream liars. That's what's grinding my gears.

Do they accept that EVERYTHING they were told about COVID-19 was a lie from the beginning? If so, why then trust those same sources for their Ukraine aid value, elections take, Trump take etc. Why? Why? Why? That's what I can't fathom.

If they've lied about everything else, why do you still trust them about this one?

basilico:
When the search engines only bring up her denial then you know it's a cover up.
Try searching for any topic like prices of eggs. First 100 pages are all leftie media decrying the rise. .On page 101 you get the first article about Joe Biden killing 166 million chicken as the cause of higher egg prices.

Of course I literally dont mean 100 pages.
Susan Rice knows if she talked to Zelensky,she could be charged under Logan Act. Trump would relish that. They have to bury that story ie the democrat enemedia.

People who have no known history of being right about anything politically, think they have moral standing to scrutinize those of us that are perpetually correct. That's what's insulting.

Fools, let me build a case for you and explain why Susan Rice has to deny it, and the mainstream media have to play along with it for NOW.

This is the Logan Act.

The phrase "without authority" is the caveat under which Chris Murphy could expose that he met with Zelensky and knew before his meeting with Trump, that he was going to reject the minerals deal Trump expected to be signed.

Amy Klobuchar, Lindsey Graham have that same protection. They are elected members of congress. It doesn't mean they were not wrong, but they atleast have a somewhat legal loophole to scale this hurdle.

Susan Rice, for e.g doesn't. Sooooo, even if she was on a video call (notice the Act states "wherever they may be" ) she has every reason to deny it. That is not my evidence of her outing herself - of course - only stating this to point out why she will NEVER be honest to admit it deliberately publicly.

So stop expecting a hard-core video of her saying "I was on a call with President Zelensky". That's never going to happen. That can only happen from leaks. And you don't get leaks except the media (you believe in) allow you to.

Remember how they censored the Hunter Biden story?

By the way, Amy Klobuchar was the other senator captured on video with Lindsey Graham and McCain in 2016 when they went to Ukraine to assure them of a US-backed war against Russia. Chris Murphy is also on video from 2014 talking about how the US backed a coup to oust the duly elected Ukrainian President simply because they felt he was going to be Pro-Russia.

Another context for this war that the media claims Russia attacked Ukraine unprovoked. Every thing I've said here can easily be sourced online.

I'm not going to do your assignment for you.

nateevs:
Bring the video. Lying Android bot. Bring the video.

This wasn't even funny in the 80s when you were my current age, grandpa.

I said the video is online for anyone to see. I just wouldn't be the one to spell it out. That's what the lame stream media will do when they get their marching orders. Wait for them.

bemeruca:
All the evidence I have seen is coming from his mouth

Like I said, I hate some of the things he has said in the past and present but he has not been convicted of anything.

I know why I'm saying this.

bemeruca:
He is not a rapper, is not not making rap songs. Don't be silly

The point is, ANYBODY can make any claims. That is not tantamount to evidence. Anyone. Literally anyone.

The UK and Romanian courts couldn't find a shred of evidence.

You don't lawfare people because you don't like them.

And please don't use the emboldened on me as I've never used such on you.

If you're a Liverpool fan, don't be comfortable with the game you just watched.

Chances are, you play that game again and lose 4-1. If you repeat that performance at Anfield, PSG will knock you out.

bemeruca:
Listen to him you will know all the crimes. He cannot shutup and brags about his own crimes

Like rappers and some sport stars do?

That's evidence of nothing, dude.

I dislike alot of the things that come out of Andrew's mouth but the conservatives shouldn't be lawfaring, posturing, and being hypocritical as it is not a good look.

If you don't like it when it is done against Trump it shouldn't be done against anyone that has not been convicted. Think of the fact that Epstein committed alot of his atrocities in Florida and nobody batted an eye for years.

This is setting a very dangerous precedent.

nateevs:
Dem say make you find video evidence, you dey talk grammar. Custodian of truth no fit find evidence. Clinton, Lewinsky, Benghazi, Sam Smith..... on top video evidence.

Small fry, will you accept Trump's words as evidence?

Once I bitchslap y'all with facts. Y'all turn groupie on a niccur.

Backup b!tch. I'm not Obummer. I don't fvck boiz.

bemeruca:
Andrew Tate must be regretting coming to the United States 😂

He should have gone to one of these liberal hell hole like Boston where they love criminals

What crime was he convicted of?

EnlightenedUFO:
In the midst of so much back and forth, we tend to miss the one important thing - The meaning of NOW! What is happening NOW! Why don't you talk about whats happening NOW! Why do you attack another person who is telling you what's happening now and the truth about NOW!

Dont pretend to be in an alternate universe because that will be signs of mental illness. Open your eyes and tell us what you are seeing in the rapist trump's presidency. Drop your biases aside and tell us how the rapist is positively affecting the general public. Tell us everything is going smooth and going well.

Can you do that without retorting to insults or pretending to be an intellectual?

Your own blue-tinted glasses are limiting your ability to read the room properly. If not, you should have started by telling me the current situation that you think needs addressing. And just before you continue with the "rapist" tripe, just know it's not going to impinge on his right to still being your POTUS. I'm assuming you're American to justify this rage (bait) from you. So stop wasting your time. My brain autocorrects such to 45/47 once I see such.

By the way, now that you're here, let me entertain you a little bit. The EU that committed less to the true cause of Ukraine got to only loan that financial commitment, yet signed big deals to operate the mineral and gas resources of the country, postwar, yet the US (without which, the EU cannot guarantee that loan or mineral resource) just got to dash Ukraine the money (taxpayers money) no strings attached. And you guys are brown-nosing for Biden?

Like you people think your hatred for Trump is justified?

You hate Trump for stopping a war and fighting for your lost taxes. You actually think you're a good person?

Trump wants that mineral deal to come to America to justify America's money, and you hate him for it? You supported Biden the fool who wasted and played with yours and my money? And you think you are a good person genuinely?

That's a serious question because I seriously question all of you.

- Ukraine is winning.
- Ukraine is winning.
- Ukraine is winning.

Legacy media all through 2022-24.

Now same legacy media:

- There's no path towards a victory for Ukraine
- We knew they'd always lose but brownie points for trying.
- Stop Putin before he takes over Europe.

The same people who kept believing the lie that Ukraine was winning, have abandoned those ideas, but not the legacy media that told them those lies.

They went straight to quoting same liars in their next argument. Rinse. Repeat cycle.

IjeBos:
You must argue with very stupid people that you think each and everyone of your diversions work.
You've employed mostly of all of them at this point.
Next time research the stuff you write so you won't spend the next 100 posts making up bullshit rationales for not being able to provide evidence that doesn't exist.

Self-fulfilling prophecy.

You know yourself and ilk very well. Need I say more.

IjeBos:
I fear you don't understand how this evidence thing works.
Well, it's actually clear by now that you don't understand how this evidence thing works.

What part of "I'm not interested in convincing you to believe anything" don't you understand?

I saw 2 people on NL argue about Biden's cognition. The leftist retařdinho was insisting Biden was sharp as a tack and only suffered occasional slips due to his age. That person quoted Jake Tapper and legacy media as proof that EVERYONE who met with Joe testified he was as healthy as health could be. No matter the arguments made by the more logical right-leaning person, the leftist never agreed.

Do you think said leftist has changed his mind today? What do you think would have been the clincher?

Yup, that's my new MO when debating fools who cape for legacy media.

IjeBos:
You spend hours and hours writing pages of I balther whenever you get asked for the evidence for some claim you make.
If you are as logical as you say you are instead of wasting all that time explaining why you won't post your evidence, why don't you spend less time and just post it?.

Isn't that how logical debates work. You make a claim and you back up that claim with evidence?
You seem to be content with the "making claims" part and fail spectacularly with the evidence part.

Covering my ears when you speak. When your words mean nothing I go la la la.

Where's your evidence? Where's your evidence?

- don't quote RFK Jr- he is a quack
- don't quote Scott Perry - he is a conspiracy theorist

- Susan Rice said she didn't speak to Zelensky. See. I provided evidence.

IjeBos:
A lot of words to say "you don't have the evidence because it never existed".

You're correct.

LOL

- Yeah, I didn't tell you I got my opinion from a post on X but you keep referring me to it, why?

- You quoted legacy media and their fake info graphics for the Ukraine aid. I asked you why their opinions not the POTUS'S should be weightier? You have no response. You just want to take their side.

- I said good. Take their side till they retract it. That way you cannot dismiss the same source you quoted. Why is it hard to understand?

Any other evidence I provide would have been labeled or dismissed. I provided CNN, Forbes, Politico to one ediot here, he said he won't accept them but then quoted same sources to make another case against Trump. Rinse. Repeat.

You guys are in the same whatsApp group.

cococandy:
I believe you have a video to provide to a certain someone up there.

Use your time wisely and stop meandering. We can see you trying and failing to give backing to the claim you made.

Don’t use me to distract yourself from that.

I just scrolled to the last page I visited and started replying posts from that page. You're not a distraction. You had the first senseless post I could find so I decided to point out the (il)logic in it.

Don't worry about my evidence or lack of it. Even when I post them, you guys just look the other way. You know you're not a neutral observer so don't pretend.

Wait for MSNBC, CNN and co. I guarantee you, they'll do so like they did for Biden's mental decline. It won't take 5 years though. I promise.

IjeBos:
It's clear he's asking you to post the evidence you clearly said you had and relied on to make your allegations.
But you're still playing your games, speaking out of turn and then writing books instead of simply posting the evidence you say you relied on.

I'm incredibly devoted to logic, emotionalists or more specifically, emotional blackmailists will have a hard time coping with me. That's just a fact.

Like I said, I can't post evidence to someone who has no history of changing his opinions even when demonstrably wrong.

That guy can insult a player and call him carry-along even when said player has now been voted best player in the world. How do you argue with someone like that?

Ibime:
No you just entered another conspiracy saying "she never admitted meeting him, but she spoke to him" to avoid Logan Act 🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶

She said she didn't speak to him, you have a video of her saying she did, yet the whole Magaverse on Twitter could not disprove it with the video. Audio video, you probably read from qAnon

Your source of truth, a bloody Karen speculating. Clap for yourself, finder of truth. That's how you find all your "truths"

It will soon shift to Trumpanzee or related. Even though, I have opinions that completely disagree with Trump or MAGA on multiple issues.

You just want to beg me to put you out of your misery but I don't want to make it easy for you.

Believe Susan Rice. The only evidence that will convince you is when the media you believe in, will make the case for you. Don't worry about me. Just wait for them.

I promise you, it won't be long this time. Even Lindsey Graham is going to be exposed. It will be very interesting.

Same post he is quoting:

- president embarrassed himself - proof? IMHO
- no question, it was a set-up - proof? IMHO
- Putin supporter - proof? Russian Collusion hoax.

But the part about not being on that call, not advising Zelensky, never speaking to him?

You have to take her word for it. Susan Rice will NEVER ever lie.

Ibime:
Can you post the video please?

Or is there a part of the English she used below that is not Englishing?

You want to force a bored crazy housewives speculation into reality

Here's proof Susan Rice didn't lie: she said she didn't lie

Gee, the proof the laptop is fake is 51 FBI agents swore an oath. Any other thing is a conspiracy theory.

Add that to ABSOLUTELY FALSE, NO GENETIC MODIFICATION, NOT MANMADE.

LOOOOL

I'm not providing any videos.

Just go ahead and believe them.

When they admit they lied (and they will, when they try to beg Trump to fund their war again and he refuses - this is going to happen soon) just be man enough to accept that you were deceived again.

That's the honorable thing to do.

Ibime:
Have you denied that you slaughtered a sheep for Ramadan iftar last night? Why should they deny nonsense that some eediots speculated in their bedroom?

But Susan Rice did, no?

So it is evidence when she does it. But if the others stay silent, it is because they didn't need to deny the speculation.

See how illogic works?

basilico:
Who said a video? Zelensky has not denied he was on a conference call en flight to Washington with Blinken, Susan Rice, Victoria Nuland and Vindman.
The other three have not denied
Show me s video of their denial

Let me tell you how he works his red herrings.

Ibime sneaks in you said "Ukrainian biolabs are used to create monkeypox to kill Russians". When he is pressed to post the evidence, he unlooks.

Go through the conversation, Ukrainian, biolabs, Russians will be in the sentence but no point was made about those labs being used to kill Russians. He makes it up on his own, disproves it, then argues that it was his opponent's opinion. Rinse. Repeat. That's his argument style.

The quote is Susan Rice is on Video exposing that she did speak with Zelensky. Nobody said she MET (which would imply physical presence to disprove plausible deniability).

If she's exposing it, it means you have to be able to read the fine lines as she's not going to willfully out herself due to the Logan Act violation.

That's why they won't accept 2020 was rigged but cannot explain why 51 FBI agents lying to favor one candidate is not election interference.

Fools, if it is election interference, You don't need a bag of more evidence to say 2020 was rigged. Just that laptop saga is sufficient proof.

That's how to think, fools.

Ibime:
Yes it is unless you produce the video YOU claim to have of her saying she met Zelensky. She is not that stupid to do a video and deny she ever spoke within 2 days unless she is suffering from Alzheimers.

The video doesn't exist, full stop. And the person who started the rumour admitted they made it up.

Like you already agreed:

But she literally did so about Benghazi.

Did Clinton not deny having sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky?

I truly want to help you understand how to stop being deceived but it seems you've signed a pact with this foolishness.

So Clinton's denial was evidence right?