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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 10:00pm On Sep 19, 2024
raumdeuter:
Who are these teams he played in the semi and finals?
Can you list them out?
Cos he played Man utd and Chelsea in those semi and finals
Will you say Haaland has a problem scoring vs Chelsea or Man utd?
Haaland did not score against Sheffield United in the SF of the FA CUP.

Maybe it is because they have very good defence.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 8:00pm On Sep 19, 2024
Shegzdave:
I’m not interested in going back and forth with you but restricting an opponent to little or no schance of scoring is a tactic to winning a match, every match requires different tactics and you don’t have to play beautifully and to end up loosing.

The main aim of every team is to win at the end of the match deploying any tactics available to WIN.
So what part of my post was critical of that approach? I wasn't because that was not the point. The point was to show that "being defensively strong" and "parking the bus" are often times conflated but they do not always overlap. It is oftenly overlooked here but City is a defensively strong team. Same goes for Arsenal. The difference is, when you park the bus you are basically depending on the other team to miss the fewer chances they'll get. Good luck depending on that in the league that is long drawn out. It might explain why your team does not win the league.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 7:38pm On Sep 19, 2024
WhoDeyHause:
Oga they didn't win the league but they made you scoreless both home and away last season. Even your apari is now wary of them cause of how far they've grown especially with defence. You could not score one against Boko Haram inter means you will then enter super saiyan mode to flog them wetin no good, right?
When I was scoreless how many goals were they scoring and what did they use it to achieve?

You're not an Arsenal fan so there's no need laughing at you. Imagine being proud of not winning the league because you did not lose a game. Can never be City.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 7:21pm On Sep 19, 2024
Ansalid
Is hands.

grin

Comic relief.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 7:20pm On Sep 19, 2024
Shegzdave:
The other guy that said Arsenal will bear the brunt like Arsenal is Fulham or Ipswich town grin grin
By this I assume Arsenal have won the league recently? Okay, they've at least beat City at the Etihad? No? That's what I thought.

And let me use this opportunity to point something out. There is nothing tactical about parking the bus. If you park the bus, the opposing team will have less chances to score. Not zero chances but fewer than normal. This information will come in handy soon.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 6:45pm On Sep 19, 2024
raumdeuter:
Which are the EPL teams that Haaland has never scored against. He has only spent 2 complete seasons in the EPL so lets see the names of clubs he hasnt scored against to test this theory
Haaland should have dribbled past 9 players to score to prove he does not ghost in big games because 17 goals in 25 matches against Arsenal, Liverpool, Bayern etc. Is scoring against small teams with weak defenses.

Even when they cannot point out 1 chance his team created for him that he was supposed to score from.

But but but...go to the thread of perrenial losers and you'd see some people claim that the difference between City and Arsenal is ....wait for it...Haaland.

Comic relief.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 4:47am On Sep 19, 2024
spillo1:
Haaland ghosting as usual against a team with actual good defenders. He will ghost against Arsenal on Sunday for sure then return to statpad against Fulham and Slovan Bratislava.
Inter parked the bus and had 2 people on him all game. What was he supposed to do in City's set-up?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 1:30am On Sep 19, 2024
raumdeuter:
If City score early, Arsenal will open up and play then ypur predictions might come to. If Arsenal scores first then it will be tight for city

If it's tied till 75th minutes they will both settle for a draw
You might be right but I think Pep was boiling today and Arsenal will face the brunt. The quick substitutions for Savinho (I understand KdB is injured) and the fact that Erling missed the chance to score 100 in 104 games means he has to do it against Arsenal to replicate Ronaldo's record in RM. So there's motivation everywhere. Rodri is getting back to match fitness. Same as Foden who will have more time to practice with Savinho against Arsenal game etc.

I feel like the motivation is brimming. Arsenal fans made too much about not losing to City last season and we did not forget. They're a strong team no doubt but I don't expect them to be better than Inter were today, on Sunday.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 11:49pm On Sep 18, 2024
Amigoss:
Pep score 3 against arteta's midblock undecided,dey play grin
City will win by 2 goals. No matter how you slice and dice. The Inter game all but guaranteed that.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 11:26pm On Sep 18, 2024
airmark:
Android17 confidently told me they would be free like a bird. He is the one to judge the case.
I said so based on what I have read and know. Can the person you are quoting vouch the same?

Seems people don't know the number of companies the EPL is accusing of perjury by these charges? Etihad, Deloitte, EY to mention a few. Good luck believing all these companies conspired to lie for City for the meager amounts being discussed. LOL
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 11:20pm On Sep 18, 2024
Amigoss:
Brace up for arteta's midblock 0-0 or Gabriel 1-0 satanic football cheesy
Inter was the perfect preparatory match vs Arsenal. Plenty to learn from. I expect City to win the Sunday game comfortably. 3-1 or 2-0 sought of scoreline.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 10:55pm On Sep 08, 2024
Give this man his ballon d'or already.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 2:09am On Aug 29, 2024
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Joe Biden's administration forcing Facebook to suppress freedom of speech. Demote and censor stories not favourable to the White House.

It's not Iran, North Korea, China or Russia so it won't trend. Dumb people will look away with their "whataboutism"

cc:
Android17
LordAdam16.
The worst aspect is, the Biden-Harris White House put pressure on $META to censor any news regarding the Hunter Biden Laptop knowing full well that the story was true. They even got 51 FBI agents to swear under oath that it was all "Russian disinformation". Nobody has been punished till date for this. I cough in election interference.

So tomorrow when any Mgbeke feeling funky starts quoting FBI said, CIA said, MSNBC said. . .they should understand why any well-meaning person will never take them as anything beyond bumbling clowns.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 7:54pm On Aug 26, 2024
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
The suspect don turn to GYB.. the invisible
We're yet to see the strongest response
They cannot respond to themselves na. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 7:52pm On Aug 26, 2024
Office hours.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 9:57pm On Aug 25, 2024
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Western media outlets always put on their A-game as far as propaganda is concerned.
Just like how the US universities has imposed martial law in their campuses hence banning pro Palestinian protesters.
People argued here that Russia destroyed their own pipeline. I've read some of the most bafflingly e-diotic comments ever on this thread. I'm still in recovery. The propaganda feels like voodoo. It is the Orwellian denying the evidence of one's eyes.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 9:52pm On Aug 25, 2024
airmark:
If you think I will waste my time to continue to bandy words with you when those that matter, have done the needful, you must be a dolt.
No, I am not trying to bandy words with you airhead. I am showing that your arguments are infantile. Ill-thought, simplistic and easily shredded. I'm hoping to save others from going down the blackhole of your abject way of thinking.

And the intelligent people on this thread have been poking holes at your arguments and guffawing at you. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 9:47pm On Aug 25, 2024
popizaino:
Why do they need to win when they can keep on defending not to concede more goals?



Thank you for the context. Not all goal conceded is as a result of poor defending from defenders thus,you cannot continue to blame every goal Chelsea conceded on the defence.




There is a reason i stopped involving myself in this issue of attack and defence argument sometimes last season because i felt our major problem was Pochettino........but you cannot begin to blame a defence that concede from that concede 4goals out of 6 opponents attack to an attacker that scores 1 or 2 goals by attacking his opponents 25times.
I feel like you are not getting to the depth of the matter. Can any team win a game 0-0? There is no need for the non-starter arguments. Just like winning a game 1-0 does not mean the winner set out to only score one, same way losing 1-0 does not mean the team set out to ONLY not concede. Teams set out to WIN. That is context 1.

Next, when I speak about context, it is because you cannot isolate 1 instance to draw a grand conclusion. You have to look at the argument from a body of work. CFCs defense (NOT NECESSARILY DEFENDERS) was the problem. Defense comprises of but is not limited to the defenders. It is the system in place as well. Maresca complained about the high line from last season for example. I don't want to have to break this down further as I am avoiding a long post. I trust you get me.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 8:21pm On Aug 25, 2024
airmark:
I watched almost all Chelsea's matches last season. Go and sit down.
20-0 in 1 game is still just 3 points. Same as 20-19.

For your big chances argument to stand you have to demonstrably prove that you missed them in multiple games + that you defended well enough to not concede more than you scored before comparing with Arsenal's achievements. Do you know why?

If you missed 2 big chances against Arsenal when they walloped you 5-0. You still deserved to lose the game regardless of the big chance.

Let's say you then missed 20 big chances against Tottenham but still won 4-1, it means you still got the 3 points deserved in that game.

An unsophisticated thinker can just bring hurriedly compiled stats and say Chelsea missed 22 big chances in 2 games which should have been 6 points if we took our chances.

Have you seen now that that person will just be waffling? Talking nonsense like you are doing?

"I watched the games" is not a layered way of thinking.

Do better.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 8:05pm On Aug 25, 2024
airmark:
We created same number of big chances as Arsenal last season. While Arsenal scored 91goals, we scored 77 goals.

If I give you what I drink, you will start thinking properly.
How can you tell that the big chances created were not in games Chelsea still won?

Why do you always make hollow and vacuous arguments?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 7:51pm On Aug 25, 2024
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Nope. Na trash🚮 for lawma.
Exactly what I thought.

Imagine Tinubu creating a phantom war with Chad and declaring that there will be no elections in Nigeria till after the war. That's democracy you know.

US will send billions to support such a democracy.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 7:37pm On Aug 25, 2024
grandstar:
I have to be honest with you- it's torture hearing the woman talk.

She always sounds like a not-so-smart student who has been asked a tough question and is trying to wriggle herself out of it. That's how she always sounds.

What does Guatemala have to do with the border?

Why not say, "I'm from California. Of course I've been to the border. I plan during my term in office to secure the border. I want to draft a comprehensive immigration policy that benefits the United States, and not stop-gap measures.

I also plan to work more with Guatemala, and other countries where most of these migrants are coming from.

How can we help lift their economies? It's poverty that's making many embark on the dangerous journey to get here. If their economies were booming, many would prefer to stay home.

Many already in the States may voluntarily return."
Let me be honest, that debate that day offended my soul. Not in Trump's defense, but simply because I felt like people were trying to pull wool over my eyes.

There are just some things that should not be argued. Kamala Harris is insufferably unintelligent. Have you seen her trying to explain Venn diagrams? Sheesh.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 7:35pm On Aug 25, 2024
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
The new party in Kano produced the speaker of the Kano state House of Assembly. Yet, his party had to undergo the rigorous Constitutional processes and requirements just to repeal the law that ousted Sanusi as Emir of Kano.

He for go Arewa Tv, tell the world that SLS is back as the legitimate emir of Kano before he repeal the law
Correct me if I am wrong (as you are more knowledgeable in this than me).

Did Ukraine or Russia ever formally declare war?

If no, then the constitution argument can be thrown in the bin. That is LAWMA material.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 7:30pm On Aug 25, 2024
Ghostagain:
Is ukraine a kingdom ? Is zelensky a king ?
Russia is also at war but managed to hold elections.
It is always best to ignore democracy whenever it is not convenient. Imagine if Putin makes an argument like that.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 7:04pm On Aug 25, 2024
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Legally, Zelensky's tenure as president has ended since... ironically, the same clowns who preach free, fair election, democracy etc are not pressuring him to conduct election in Ukraine. Or even handover power to the head of parliament as stated by Ukrainian Constitution if there's crisis in the country which may affect the conduct of general election.
You have time. Like I was going to ignore Ukraine's constitution and start whatabouting what obtains in another sovereign nation.

When they tell people to stop guzzling and regurgitating BS from legacy media they won't listen. The legacy media will always make their proponents look asinine because a house built on lies won't hold for long.

Do you remember when Russia was accused of destroying their own Nordstream pipeline until Germany arrested one of the culprits and we started reading that it was actually Ukraine that did so regardless of being warned against doing so by the CIA. Buahahahahahaha.

Yet same CIA is still doling out cash to Zelensky till date. They know the fools that will believe them though. Dem plenty for this thread.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Android17: 5:42pm On Aug 25, 2024
LordAdam16:
Now you can understand why our Western Diaspora comrades on the thread viciously defend every Western action.
Mk person no enter no-fly list or collect court date because of wetin dem yarn online.

Finally, make the pretense end. China, Russia, US, France, UK... No difference.
Once the powers that be reason your matter, na cell straight or you get accident.
Fundamental human rights na lamba. Do pass yourself, you go collect straight up.


-Lord
This has always been my stance. The double-standards and virtue signaling.

Imagine defending Zelensky but feeling justified to hate Putin.

Calling a millionaire turned billionaire dull, but defending a cackling buffoon that cannot string a coherent sentence - even claiming they are intelligent.

Talking Jan 6 (BullSheet by the way) but ignoring the obvious coup against Biden by his party. Haba.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 5:21pm On Aug 25, 2024
raumdeuter:
Your team the joint top scoring team in the league is in 8th position

Any reason why?
Airhead is the master of non-arguments. Telling us you need someone better than Jackson is a prime example. As if there are 1000 Haaland's available and CFC settled for Jackson.

Telling us you have to outscore your opponent to win like any team can win a match 0-0.

I come here to laugh most times.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 5:08pm On Aug 25, 2024
popizaino:
If city scored only one goal,they won't win the game.

Adult argument only.
Why would City need 1 goal to win a game that they were losing by 1 goal?

Take your time to UNDERSTAND before typing.

Arsenal had the best defence last season and conceded 2 goals in some games (At home to Aston Villa comes to mind). Having a good defence does not mean NEVER conceding. Just like having a good attack does not mean ALWAYS scoring. That goes for your Bayern argument.

Take your time to understand CONTEXT before typing.

Your team scored 77 goals last season. Historically, such teams finish top 4. But you conceded 60+ or so, which is reserved for sub 15 teams.

Your issue was never MAJORLY in attack. It was in defence. That is what the stats are saying. One needn't be a rocket scientist to figure this out. It is rudimentary.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 4:38pm On Aug 25, 2024
nateevs:
Don't mind them. Actually it is really an intellectually-flawed argument. The whole concept of outscoring your opponent is heavily dependent on a strong defence.

It is impossible to outscore your opponent without a good defence. If you conceded one goal for everyone you score, you will never be able to outscore your opponent. FACTS!
Gbam.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 4:30pm On Aug 25, 2024
larride:
Technically you don't need to outscore your opponent all game to get maximum point.

You can score 1 and deny your opponent scoring.
You need to outscore your opponent to win ANY game.

It is a non-argument. It was never being argued here.

It was, what is the MAJOR source of CFC's problems from last season?

Airhead said attack. Tim said defense.

O ti tan.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 4:26pm On Aug 25, 2024
Unlimited22:
I wonder how this concept is so difficult to grasp.

Why are Arsenal not playing Mustafi and Jenkinson? Why did they go for Timber and Calafiori despite having Zinchenko?

Why do City have Días, Ake and Akanji instead of some scrubs?

Why do Liverpool keep playing VVD And Robertson since they have Salah and Diaz?

It's not so hard to grasp. On the off days where things don't go well, steel at the back will come up trumps.

It's a league season. Grinding out 1-0 wins will secure necessary points sometimes.

But when you are guaranteed to concede two every game, then...
It is not even about being guaranteed goals to score.

First half was a draw simply because Wolves responded to every goal CFC scored.

Second half Chelsea scored 4 unreplied goals. If it played out like the first half, it would have been 6-6.

The attack still had Jackson, Noni and Palmer - players that were here last season. They produced 2 goals in the first half (which was enough for Arsenal to defeat Villa yesterday).

The only problem in that first half? The defense conceded 2 goals.

But the attack is the problem per the Citadel.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Android17: 4:17pm On Aug 25, 2024
FBS:
You are speaking from only one side of the mouth.

Did you outscore your previous opponent?
Did CFC sign a new striker? Which of your attackers (by the time you started pumping all those goals) was signed this season that was not here the previous season?

Don't join Airhead in his mumu argument.

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