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Cherechy:
@apache whatever your name is.
I'm not hungry nor do i in anyway engage in abuja aristo. If u read thru my post very well u'd find out what i was doing with the girl in question.
You sound very agitated like i was refering to u directly. Or do u belong to the class of guys dt live off thier rich friends in abj and go about pretending? Lol
in my post i neva in any way implied that those living in these surburbs are in anyway low or anything. U dnt knw where i stay, so quit casting aspersions on my person or where i stay. Because i damn well know u cannot afford it. If u dnt like my post, u can disagree with me, without insulting me.
You know all the hot clubs in abuja and how much drinks cost there, you go there to have a good time and meet chics yet u turn around and insult these same girls. Whatever.
Like u said, i'm gonna live in abuja and enjoy my 'law work'. Legal practice has never been so good. I dnt need to know what goes on in your clubs or wherever. I dont need your money or whatever u have to offer. You and the other silly 'abuja guys' can go to hell for all i care.
This will be my last reply to u or anybody else on this thread. I dnt hv time for this your nairaland banter.
And finally, yes i collected the 20k we were given for lunch. Kill me. Hear u, i should have taken #500 and returned the rest. Yeah right! Like u would do the same.
In your subsequent posts use 'some abuja girls'. U hear me?

My dear, you sound so annoyed. I didnt insult you honey, I just didnt like the fact that you came here to bandy about misrepresentations. That is something I dont like, most especially since you know absolutely nothing about Abuja's social life. Either you aint got the pull to be a part of it, or the guys who hang around you dont deem it fit to take you round and bring you into the circle. Either way, you are an outsider. And no, you couldnt be refering to me as part of the hanger ons because I even create excitement for my fellow rich. Every once in awhile, I do host parties where every one comes to sip my champagne? And know what? They even pay to come in to be  a part of my table.So, yet again, on that score you are, as usual, wrong.

And whether I cant afford where you stay? Where do you stay? Ministers Hill? Aso Drive? CITEC Villas? Where? You are an ordinary law clerk, your take home probably is not even up to 80k. So, if you stay in any of these plush places, how do you manage to afford it? Is a man sumwhere screwing your bookish Womanliness and picking up your house rent? So you are a LovePeddler yourself. Else you are squatting, either with your parents of friends.Whichever be the case, you dont have any locus standi to talk here. I know your type, staid, drab and boring, boring, boring, you probably fucck pro bono(to use another of your legal jargon).

And you are so jobless you follow a lowly secretary up and down to give writs. Are you a driver? Or a PA to a secretary? Plsease get a life okay? And I never insulted those girls- that is the path they have chosen. I only called them by what they are-whores. If i call you by your name, Cherechy, have i insulted you in anyway? If I call you lawyer, is it not your profession? So what is so wrong if I call them whores. I was only analysing them. Thats the path they have chosen, and those fees are the how much value they put on their pussiies. There are people who appreciate them, and pay for their services. I dont have a problem with that. Infact, without them, night life would be boring, since we would be stuck with drab and probably, very ugly lawyers like you.

I dont beef you, but obviously you are a small wimp somewhere. I  consider your rants here the ugly self promotion of an upstart so, I will forgive you. Perhaps, one of these days, when I come to your chamber to give you a brief, I'l take you over to the Transcorp's Piano Lounge and buy you a shot of Tequilla give you 20k for lunch- dat seems to be your password. Atleast those other whores demand 50k for blackberry, not lunch. mscheeeeeeeeeeew


And please i didnt say all Abuja girls are hustlers, there are still a few good girls, and i said like 20%. You are definitely not among them

Look, this girl who said you followed your friend to INEC office, I dont think you know anything about Abuja though you have stayed here for donkey years.First, your secretary friend herself is just a high clas hooker masquerading as a corporate worker- perhaps she's a sex worker? There are basically two types of girls in Abuja- the good girls and the whores. The good girls are so few, they are hardly even seen. They mostly stay indors or at their desks in their offices. They hardly hang out at night and only attend private soirees or house parties. They constitute only about 20% of the Abuja population of girls. The second type of girls in Abuja are the LovePeddler, who constitute 80% of the total Abuja girl population. Now there are two categories of whores in Abuja- the roadside whores(who you find in clubs such as Kyrstal, Xtacy, Aqua, Ibiza, terminal 5, Soho, Bassment etc) and the home office whores(which your friend belongs to).

The road side whores tell you straight up their money is 30k, or 40 or 60K depending on her belief in her charms and where she is strutting her trade. They are the same ones you now find in clubs (since Bala Mohammed clamped down on there). They ask you to buy you drinks for them, and they are ready to follow you home for your agreed fee. Your friend who is a home-office LovePeddler operates differently, albeit with the same intent. She cons the men via seduction to buy her cars, blackberries and pay her rent. Basically, she is a kept woman who engages in runs. Back in the day, we used to call such girls aristos in school.

The road side LovePeddler demands 50k, which she uses to buy blackberry. Your friend will basically be kept by a man, so as long as hse wants a blackbeery, she gets it, she wants a car, she gets it so long as the man can afford. She is still into prostitution but hers is not common knowledge like the street LovePeddler. She solicits in private using the cover of her job. Better watch it, you say u r the bookish type, so what are you doing with such a loose canoon. And you came here to preach, admitting that you coledted 20k for cab. IS cab in Abuja 20K? If you were so different and really needed cab money, why didn’t you collect N500 and return the rest? I feel you also have LovePeddler tendencies, forget this façade you have come to put up here.


You say you have been in Abuja since godot, but it seems you don’t know nothing about the social lifestyle. Well, you said you are the bookish type, so you can be forgiven. Do you go out at night at all?? You think buying Cristal for N150k at Aqua is beans? Or Ace of Spades for N120k at Cubana is for poor guys? You say rich guys don’t spend on champagne?? You must be a real housegirl to say that. You think a guy passing off can afford dat?
You said ‘the real abj guys with money dnt even have time for wat d poster here is narrating. And even if they do, they almost always have a steady girlfriend they cater for. ’ So who does not have a steady girlfriend? Yousaid those that go to the club to spend money n pick girls in abuja are d ones just managing. Somebody who is managing can go to the club, pay to go in, buy canned drinks for N500, red wine for N3k, Red label for N8k, Jack Daniels for N10k, Hennesey for 15k, Moet for N22k, then take a girl home and give her 50K, and you say he is just managing? Which part of the world are you. Go to America an d ask them how much they buy those drinks. Nigerians have drunk so much Hennessesy that the company decided to make a special bottle for Nigeria’s 50th anniversary. You think it is people who are just managing that caused that? Go and sleep.

You also said those girls come from nyanya, mararaba, kubwa, deidei for maitama and asokoro weekends to seek men jst like d poster. If I may ask where are you from? Those girls stay right in town- Wuse2, Zone 1, Zone 4 different palces in town. Yes, the odd ones do come from those places, but majority stay within, except you are a lowlifer the girls at the places come from out of the way places. And anyway, what makes you think coming from Maraba, Kubwa or Karu, makes them inferior than if they were in town. You don’t know that many neigbourhoods in Maraba of Kubwa are probably better than where you live?

My dear, talk about what you know and pay more attention to your law work and your bookish friends. Don’t come and start talking about a lifestyle you know nothing about because you have never been a part of parcel of it. The poster was spot on about most of his observations about Abuja.

Ah, ah, what do u want to hear again, i hav told u which is closer, do u want to know where its a better environment?? ikotun has sum nice areas but egbeda is just as good. if i was u, i'l stay in egbeda, i'l drive out onto lagos abeokuta express, hit oshodi go up to okota link road, link aguda, den hit surulere. or i will hit ikeja, link ikorodu road, ojuelegba and am in surulere.

Dat guy is lousy, very very. He has issues with all coaches who manage him in Nigeria, amodu, lagerback, now siasia. I feel he should be given the Anelka treatment. who the hell does he think he is? Leavin camp, then going to rant against the coach on twitter. Rooney, with all his antecedents, have you ever seen where he said anything uncomplimentary about CApello?? he cant dare, even if he insults him in private. THis guy shd bedropped and banned for like 10games, rubbish

know wat?? u r just an arse. lemme summarise ur relationship for u, most likely u never liked her from d beginning. in school, alot of guys r in relationships cos d woman dey r wit is the only one who is willing to be wit dem. in other words, dey keep chasing after gurls who reject dem, so wen dey seem to stumble on a gurl who says yes, dey agree n jump into d relationship wit her cos dey dont want to be single, even at d risk of being wit sum one dey dont like, so dey pretend. wen d preferable is not available, d available becomes the preferbale.maybe in ur own estimation, she wasnt maybe beautiful enuf, but u held ur peace becos refusing her would have meant being celibate and without a woman. obviouly, u were a poor guy too, so her money was also a mitigating factor, u cld tolerate being wit her so long as u didnt go hungry. now u hav sum change in ur pocket, u hav discovered u r not compatible. knw why? cos u can now access d gurls who u always lusted after, d type u always wanted, but couldnt get cos u were too poor. so naw, u are havin second tots-she is now a christian, u a moslem, she is naw tall while u r short, u like s.ex while she doesnt. dont decieve urself man, her money which set u up is naw d reason u no longer want to be wit her, girls go show u ween. ur r d type who, once dey hav money, go n start renting girls flats, buying dem cars wen dey dont giv a damn about u, but stay wit u cos u pick d bills. just watch it, for even harborin diz tots, God will punish u. u may even dump her n end up wit ur glam sort of gurl but wait n see wat happens, she'll most likey mess u up cos from what i can decipher, u dont even know how to handle a gurl like dat, since u were always poor. if u'v offended ur babe as it is, go bak n make peace wit her before its too late n u head down d long lonely road to self destruct, a word is enuff for d wise.

Egbeda of course, if u r coming from Ikotun, u get past council bustop, den u get to egbeda, from where u can either get oshodi den ojuelegba or from egebda, u get to ikeja under bridge den ojuelegba

Tinapa Free Zone and Resort, Calabar which is widely regarded as Africa’s Premier Business Resort and the only retail and tourism based Free Zone in Nigeria, is dying. Tinapa is generally regarded as the major single investment of a state government in the country. It is a multi billion naira investment of the Cross Rivers state. At a time, no other Free Zone offered as much service as Tinapa in the West and Central African sub-region. But the resort is now a ghost of itself.

The pre-built retail and wholesale accommodation measuring about 65,000m2 earmarked for letting as stores and warehouses in four composed emporia of about 10,000m2 each, with several line shops, are now virtually empty as those business outfits occupying have closed their businesses and relocated from there. The open exhibition area for trade exhibitions and other events that was hitherto busy, is now very dusty. An indication that it has not been used for long.

The entertainment strip which  comprise spaces for a Casino, an eight-screen digital Cinema, vintage international standard restaurants, a night club and pubs have all closed to business. The artificial tidal lake that feeds from the Calabar river, which used to flow beautifully into the Atlantic Ocean, which serves as a tourist’s attraction, was quiet and deserted at the time this reporter called. Water sport, an activity that includes fishing, that was an all day event, was no longer happening.

Tinapa’s man-made beach where leisure events were being held, is now deserted. The two hundred and forty two (242) room international three star hotel named “Tinapa Lakeside Hotel” being operated by the African Sun Hotels, South Africa, one of Africa’s leading hospitality managers still exists,  but with very low patronage. The movie production studio commonly referred to as “Studio Tinapa” or “Nollywood,” believed to be the most modern film production studio in Nigeria, is not in use.

The full scale shipping operations commenced by Tinapa in September, 2009 with the introduction of MB Batic star-ship carrier, that has the capacity of moving 4,500 to 36,000 metric tons cargo/container vessels, is now totally grounded, and the ship has since withdrawn its services from Tinapa.

However, the Water Park and Leisure land,  comprising a collection of children and adult size pools, water slides, a wave pool-surfers delight, a lazy river as well as a bar and restaurant , was bubbling at the time this reporter visited. But a security man around the area told this reporter that it was because of the Easter break that the children came. He said the last time the place was used was during Christmas.

Perhaps, what is not physically affected by the dilapidation of structures in Tinapa, is the good internal and external road network that ensures quick access to the adjourning manufacturing based Calabar Free Trade Zone, the Calabar Port, the Margaret Ekpo international airport , as well as the Cross River State major highway,  leading to neighboring states within the region.

But the Assistant General Manager (AGM) operations of Tinapa, Mr. Francis Ekom said the resort had taken off fully at the onset. He said most of the companies that mobilized to Tinapa could not operate fully, because of the delay in enacting the enabling law. He said because Tinapa is not only a resort but also an export processing zone, there was the need to enact laws providing for proper operations.

“These laws are enacted by the National Assembly and you know it takes a long time before the laws are enacted because of the long procedure. The delay in the enactment of the relevant laws was what made some of the investors and companies that started doing business here pack out of the place. So many of them that we started with, have actually left. But now that all the necessary laws have been enacted and are in practice, a lot of them have indicated interest to return.

“There are new investors that were not even here the first time, that have indicated interest to do business with us, and are in the process of moving down here. We are picking up now and in due course, everything will be in place far better than it was before. Our only problem was the issue of enacting the enabling laws. That has already been done. We have no problem with that again. You can see that activities are taking off fully now,” he said.


One of the people seen doing business in Tinapa, Chief Emeka Cletus said despite the good roads that exist in the resort, Tinapa does not have an independent transport system, which  can ease the problems of having access to and a transport system within the resort. He said that has been one of the areas that requires immediate attention.

“Government and the resort do not have to spend money to provide the required transport system. They can always open opportunities for private investors in that aspect. Because Tinapa is located at the outskirts of Calabar, it is difficult for anyone that is not mobile to access it. Even when you arrive the resort, it is also very difficult to move from one part of Tinapa to the other, because the place is very big and wide. There is need to have dedicated taxis and buses , that will be transporting people to and from the town,  and some Keke NAPEP that will be shuttling within Tinapa.

“Former Governor of the state, Donald Duke who conceived the idea and built Tinapa, had the vision of making Cross Rivers state not only a tourists’ attraction state, but also a major trade center where one can do business of international status. Duke got the idea of Tinapa from Dubai, and he was able to build Tinapa to world standard. It is painful to note that for years now, activities are at a standstill and nothing is happening at Tinapa,” he said.

The close proximity of Tinapa to the Calabar Free Trade Zone, as well as the Calabar Sea and Air Ports, presents opportunities for manufacturers, retailers and wholesalers to expand their activities due to increased trade. The Cross River State Government, initial promoter of the Zone, has executed a loan agreement for the construction of a monorail connecting Tinapa to the airport, to further improve accessibility.

Chief Cletus said government has made adequate arrangements for uninterrupted power supply at the resort, by making available dependable and independent power source. He also said government has provided integrated information and communication technology infrastructure,  to ensure that investors are able to maximize time, as well as operate efficiently and effectively with the aid of information technology.


A shop keeper at Tinapa, Emeke Nwafor said he made sales of N4,500 within the past two months from a set of tourists that spent a night at the resort. “They bought Ankara cloth from me. There is very low patronage here. People don’t like coming here because it is far, and there is no activity around. But the place has very good location, because of its nearness to the Free Trade zone where most of the manufacturers operate from,” he said.

Some of the children seen playing around said they were there with their parents for the Easter break, and admitted that they were actually enjoying the different playing apparatus provided at the resort. Little Kenny who said he is a primary 3 pupil at a primary school in Calabar, said he would love to be at Tinapa every day to play at  the kids garden. But the artificial Tinapa lake which used to be one of the most attractive places in the resort, was deserted at the time this reporter visited.




http://dailytrust.dailytrust.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=18523:tinapa-is-dying&catid=24:star-feature

jayJR:
He really seems not to understand what a capital city means, how do you think abuja will be if the cost of a 3 bedroom apartment in maitama is 350k? How much do you get liquor in new york or london clubs?n if he got all what he claimed to have in lagos n still not ok with that,, may God help you

What has expense got to do wit a capital city bro? u didnt mention washington, preferring New York, the Lagos parallel of America. anyways, if a  pad is worth 350k, even in maitama, why let it out for 3.5m just because Abuja is supposed to a capital city? About not being satisfied with i have? i never said i had much mind you.Living the good life, catching your trips and having value for money especially in Lagos depends on what circles you move in, not necessarily what you have in your pocket. I could take a girl out to the club and offer her a bottle of Henny XO, which she knows goes for 70k. what she doesnt know is that the treat could be on d House, the bill to be settled from the Manager or owner's account. I have many such friends, such little favors are a given at their places. As for having a car? A house? Means nothing to me, thats elementary. My car in Lagos, I have not driven in 10months. My house is still under lock and key till now. What I always had in Lagos was always change-mere stipends to tide me over, pay the bills- BIS, DSTV, Internet,bla, bla,bla, gas, groceries and keep my girl in some relative comfort, which ofcourse, is never enough for a woman

favouredjb:
*sighs*yea all your rich uncles and relatives in the corridors of power!I sense some pride n arrogance,esp when you said to see "mere bank ED" or somn funny.

No arrogance bro, those my uncles in power, seemed to be running things, but at the end of the day, did they help? I was left to my wits ends. And anyways, its easir to see a Ministrer or a D. G of an extraministerial parastatal in Abuja than see a bank ED in Lagos, thats the truth.Whether such a man buys into you, is another matter entirely, but atleast you get to see the men who sign cheques.

jayJR:
I schooled in lagos( BSc and Masters) n I ll tell you Lagos is social and fun but Abuja is a relatively sane city!!, by the way what is your occupation? Relying on politicians in power? We don't pray that works, we pray for an ideal city n nedless I say either u re telling some lies or u re greedy,, getting tired of all "those" Abuja has never been known for all socials so what do you want?

Am not relying on politicians bro, but you must canvass them as  major clients if you must make it big, especially in a city like this. I am into Corporate and Financial communications, forget the fact i seem to live sybaritically, so their business is my business, their finances, my business too. and am not greedy, cos maybe picking a N350k cheque t oyou in Lagos may seem like big money, but in reality its not at all- bills, bills, bills, then ofcourse, champagne and the good life, depends on lifestyle really.Living Lavida is not wrong, so long as you can fund such a lifestyle and not worry about how much you have spend after a nite out or fretting about a major investment you've committed yourself if something goes wrong.

I have decided to share this topic because of the experience of another poster on Nairaland who compared and contrasted his experiences of Lagos and Abuja in LAGOS AND ABUJA, A TALE OF TWO CITIES and I cant agree with him any less.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-525120.0.html

I have been in Abuja close to a year now and I can say I somehow reside here now. I have always noticed that there often seems to be sort of comparism between Abuja and Lagos in informal discussions of Abuja residents many who try by al means to convince you that Lagos cannot hold a candle to Abuja.

How wrong they all are because I have lived in both places and still live in both places…I have led a vibrant business and social life in both cities so I guess I can say a lot about the pulse of both. I have also been in this town-Abuja for about a year now and lived in Lagos ever since I can remember, and even if someone chooses to go academic about comparisms between both cities, Lagos is still light years ahead of Abuja.

I also used to live in Lagos (and still do because I still maintain my apartment there-Ikeja to be precise). I also live in Abuja, gwarinpa to be precise, and though I must also add that I have not been to Lagos in 10months, I am still abreast wiuth evrything that is happening there.

I was always being regaled with tales of Abuja all through school and having a brother, 2sisters and all my secondary school friends lving and working in Abuja, it seemed dumb to many that I had decided to make Lagos home. Lagos was too hard, too tedious, too hectic for a young man to be living…I had to move, I had to relocate, I had uncles in government now, they were in the corridors in power. What was I doing picking up stipends from unappreciative clients when I could be running multimillion naira projects in Abuja. Didn’t I want to clean out and get married?

I started listening to all their arguments, I started believeing them, I started thinking Abuja.
Soon enough, everything about Lagos started irritating me. I started feeling tired of their Lagos, as it was almost becoming my abomination- the traffic snarls, the congestion, the smells, the decay, the danger and all the ills I had never bothered with before. I started seein Abuja as my Eldorado, my utopia, my vista to a new world. I felt Abuja represented a better proposition a better package.

On an exploratory 2day visit in August last year, I was sitting at the breakfast table of one of the most powerful cabinet Ministers of the Yar adua government. I had done that within 48hours and when I remembered the ceremony that often attended seeing a mere bank ED or MTN or ETISALAT Manager in Lagos, I I became impatient with Lagos. I had got tired of shuttling to VI everyday, answering summons from clients in Lekki and Ikoyi. I got tired of taking mere N300- 500k cheques from clients in Ikeja, Surulere and Festac with their attendant wahala. I started dreaming drafts of N10million and above from politicians in Abuja.

On the social front, I got tired of the Silverbird galleria, THe Palms and Shoprite and Mega plaza. I got tired of my usual haunts- Caliente and Auto Lounge in VI, Insomnia and Coconut Groove in Ikoyi, D HEAvens and Mastoids in Festac, Metro and Page in Ikeja, I even tired of my favourite skin bars- Wallstreet and Club Unique off Allen in Ikeja, got tired of partying at Oniru beach every Sunday afternoon, got tired of Takwa Bay, La Campaigne and Eleko Beach, I suddenly got tired of my Ikeja crib and my car, I wanted Abuja to give me bigger things. I felt I had seen all of Lagos, so off to Abuja I came, practically moving my office. I will hit it in no time, I had uncles, Ihad connections, I had family and Abuja was where the money was, and as my friendskept saying…dem just dey butcher money for this town.

I came and found myself in Gwarinpa and though I met a neater city, cleaner, ‘seemingly more sane,’ I soon realized Abuja was not the deal. I came on the back of several top Yar adua appointees. I had hardly settled down before Jonathan, in his Yar adua tsunami kicked most of my ‘ogas’ out. I could not just go back like that. I had to see what the city had to offer outside my yar adua men. 10 months on, though I cant say it has been hell, I don’t think I have enjoyed myself. I remember in Amigos at Wuse 2 yesterday when I was telling a friend that I wasn’t enjoying Abuja, he said it was because I hadn’t hit it big yet. Do I need N100million to enjoy a city?

No way.
From business to socials, I have been everywhere in Abuja. I have tried to run 'packages' with Senators and Reps at the National Asembly, tried to run things with Heads of Extraministerial parastatals, but this town is too slow, people too thick- everything goes to girlfriends and proxies/fronts. On the social scene I have popped champagne with friends everywhere- Cubana, Soho, Basement, Play all in Wuse2, even the red light excelensio and Upper Lounge, practically made the new Terminal 5 my home in Maitama, hung out severally at Tucano, Aristotle and and the new Platunum Lounge at will. I have seen the best places, but while some of those places are even classier than their Lagos counterparts, the ambience, the excitement is not the same.It was always fun been at my hang outs in Lagos,but the nite experience is just bland here and unenjoyable. The girsl are ok, pretty, but nothing compared to the Lagos girls, the whores more expensive ofcourse (though, I don’t go with them, I always ask them how much their services would cost- one, called Chantelle- seriously told me $400 the other Friday nite at Krystal Lounge- in my estimation, she wasnt worth 10grand).

Abuja is criminally expensive and the residents seem to be very happy that their town, our town seems to be so expensive even though, they never get value for money. my laptop powerpack that costs about N2k in Otigba ie Computer Village goes for N3k5 here, a three bedroom flat that goes for about 800-900k in Ikeja will go for N1.5m in Wuse or Garki here.

The shopping experience is dry because this is a Land of plazas, so no room for business owners to be even creative in use of their environment as most cant use stand alone building s of the likes of Collectibles, Fussion, Talk2me in Lagos . The lifestyle malls, a major cornerstone of the Lagos life is just merely alive here. At Ceddi Plaza for instance, half the place is empty, no tenants. The few- Selara faces, Café Bon, Kilimanjaro etc etc struggle for patronage. Nokia and barcellos have already moved out. Sundays when the place should be a beehive of activity, the place often looks like a ghost place. Every body travlls out of Abuja by weekend. The lease is so expensive at places like Cedi and Grand Square, many residents, even though they can afford shop space there, can hardly break even if they opened shop.

Most of the big people here were mere politicians or commissioners in places like Gombe, Lafia, HAdejia, Potiskum but with plenty money. When they are suddenly given appointments in Abuja as DG's, Executive Secreataries, their wives who are supposed to rent places like Ceddi plaza etc dont know what to stock though they have money to even rent. Where do they go? So, all the malls keep struggling for the same tenants. Not like Lagos where the average unilag girl knows where Dubai is. So if she stumbles on a man who is ready to invest 20million on her, she starts making inquiries at Palms Mega Plaza for shop space, while booking her Dubai or London flight simultaneously to go shop.

A trip round the Abuja Silverbird e-centre will tell you that most of the shop owners are from Lagos, since it seems Silverbird started their marketing effort right from their tenants at the galleria, bringing in the likes of Montaigne spa, gene bendi, Mango, Diva, etc. It seems more lively anyway, though who ever you see at Ceddi at 12noon, you also see at Silverbird at 1pm if you go to both places. Silverbird have a 12screen cinema at ther e-centre but in all 12halls, you can count about 50 people cummulative for any given 2hour belt during a week day. But because they own it, they can keep it running. If a Nu metro went to rent a cinema there? They' l be in the red in no time.

The residents seem to be happy that they are being shortchanged, afterall their town is more expensive that Lagos, so is more sophisticated. Wrong.

The verve, the anticipation, the excitement of Lagos is not here. In Lagos, everybody has money- the alaba pirates, the clothes sellers on the island, the lace merchants of isale eko, importers, building materials people, consultants,advertising practioners, common traders everybody. Here only four categories of people have money – 1. Presidency officials and politicians like PDP topshots, Governors, Commissioners etc 2. National Assembly Members- Senators and reps 3. Top Government functionaries –ministers, DG’s ,MD, Executive Secretaries. The private sector, hotel owners, land speculators, agents and a few business people are doing ok…less than 5% of the population, so money circulates only within very few hands.
So majority live in places like Nyanya, karu, gwandara, ado, masaka, kubwa, dei dei, Zuba etc and take more than 3hours to reach Abuja town everyday. Only ver few live in places like Maitama, Wuse2, asokoro, GArki and the new estates- sunny vale, sun city, citec etc.

Me I have seen the city and once a project I am running with a former govermer, former minister and current senatorial aspirant comes on stream, I am going back to my Lagos, there is no place like Lagos.

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THis is d deathknell for jonathan's ambition.d powers dat be in Nigerian politics (the 28 PDP governors ) hav already made up dia minds dey dont want Jonathan, else the PDP NEC could never hav come to such a ridiculous doublefaced resolution-we retain zoning, but GEJ can contest.d governors control PDP NEC and they had every power to say the PDP has chosen GEJ as consensus candditate or dumped zoning.they didnt, but had to settle for middle ground just so as to give demselves a chance at second terms or senatorial ambitions.they know they cannot come out outrightly to tell Jonathan he cannot contest, yet they cannot say they have dumped zoning, so they were between the devil and the deep blue sea.they had to setle on zoning but dat Jonathan can contest.dat way they will not enter into GEJ's badbooks and risk EFCC hounding when they want to go for their own elections. with this GEJ will know he will be embarrased at eagles square when the pdp preseidential primaries come up (it is at eagles square abuja dat Nigeria's next preseident will emerge and not during the april elections. they will tell him to go ahead, once dat day comes, all dia delegates will queue up behind dia chosen candidate. if that candidae is not GEJ (and the PDP NEC has just confirmed dat) then he will be embarrased at the vote coun that day(we will alll be watching everything on national television anyway). By then it will be too late for GEJ to unleash EFCC or ICPC on them as payback. they'l have had their last laugh. diz governors are just decieving GEJ, and am sure he knows. they are the only kingmakers in Nigeria right now, and it is wat they say that counts.once they have GEJ out, they'l move against NWodo too.GEJ is threading on banana peels

my guy, pele, nl isnt d place to come when u r seekin advice or solace, diz people here dia tongue too wicked, after bashing u, u will feel like going to commit suicide, but d girl play u, though u go stil fkc am wene ver u want, just d same way she go still dey fkc other men even after marriage too, how cum u were shacked up wth a wwhore for 5years?

and dont reply her fellow whores who are bashing u here, leave dem. we hav whores on nl too.and please go ahead wit ya life

Simply run things wit the one you fancy, dats all. it happened to me once. they just moved into the neighbourhood we lived.i met the senior sister first, but when the younger came, i fell for her. the elder girl had already started giving d impression we were dating(shaging, yes, dating no) so i was in a really diffcult situation i engineered my friend to take the senior girl off my chest while i concentrated on the younger. things went well till my friend had his fill and decided to take a hike. the senior now turned her eyes on her younger sister n i and gave us hell. it got to the point both families got involved, i wasnt on speaking terms with the senior for almost 7years and she engineered the mum to do all in her power to break off my relationship with her younger sister.
Its not a good position to be in, but shit happens. A few years after, I got entagled with two other sisters in school. I met the senior first-hot, smouldering,beautiful-the girl every guy and lecturer wanted to lay-but with an attitude that sucked. we started dating. then i met the junior later beautiful too, very very hott too and a much better temperamnet and all round personality. i started spending time with the junior, she almost became like my wife, though i wasnt sleeping with her. everybody, her friends, classmates, family, including her elder sister thot we were shagging and it eventually led to my break up with the elder sister, strained their own relationship and cost us a few mutual friends,

Shag him, its not because he has tasted the pudding that he will leave, if he sees that u have nuthin else to offer asides the $ex, he will leave.if he ses that theres more to u dan the $ex, he'll be the one who will kip coming back. y do u gals always assume we'l take off after tasting the koko?

Why do guys kip stereotyping cute girls to be dumb? Dats a big lie, just the same way not all guys are smart. Some girls can be dumb, but then, they are not dumb because they are pretty. Cute girls come with a lot of drama, the attention on them is just so suffocating, they often hand out plenty of shit. And they do that principally because of how we guys place them. even if a fine girl wants to have only one boyfriend, she cant because men are toasting her even with the full knowledge she has a boyfriend. Soon as she gets out of puberty, she gets to understand that men are after her, and are ready to give her anything she desires, plus what she doesn’t even need. She develops an ‘attitude’ quickly and becomes nearly unmanageable. Even fine married women are not left alone by men,talkless fine unmarried girls. For guys who cannot stand the vagaries of dating fine girls, they simply stay away. For dos with plenty of liver and capacity to accommodate shit, they stay. One way or the other dating a fine girl is a one way street to having high blood pressure. I shd know cos i bin down that path several times!

Are you so damn sexy even your own blood wants to sleep with u? I understand your predicament and connect with what u r saying. Some women are like dat, everybdy wants to sleep with dem. Men just cant keep their eyes off them. and their appeal isn’t restricted to men alone. Even girls want to sleep with such women, girls like you they attract lesbians all the time.  I shd know  cos my own girl is like dat too- even her uncles want to sleep with her, if she wasn’t d strong type, one or two would have violated her since she was a juvenile. One  of dem even behaves as if he and I are rivals, aat the club I have to fight off lesbians. It’s a burden you will have to carry my dear, it won’t stop, not now, not soon. At some time in the future, it may be your own husbands friends trying to get into your pants, it may be people u hold in high esteem at work, some women (of which I believe you are one) set off such strong sexual vibes, men cant resist, they are seduce without meaning to seduce. A prophet once told my girl she has strong seducing spirit in her (whatever dat means). A woman like you is in trouble if she isn’t financially independent, simple favors from men will only come with hints of $exual recompense. If you are already doing your NYSC, u shd be used to such advances by now. Cheer up baby, it only means u r so so hot…such annoying advances are the price you have to pay for having such a knockout appeal, but ofcourse you wont tell us all the other perks you have enjoyed from drooling guys you fancy either.

d biginning of the end of ur relationship is here

@POSTER: you are talking about intellectual property on the presumption that your idea is so hot it would be stolen.thats the problem with young people(you must be young i guess).You r so worried about the safety of your so called big idea you have completely lost track of the fact it could just get thrown out of the window without even a second consideration.If you are so worried about your copyright, get money and startup the idea yourself-simple.Forget all these gibberish they are telling you here about patenting.Havent banks gone to Ministry of Trade in abuja to get their own patent for a product already patented,backdating their own patent and quashing the already issued patent via ministerial caveat?Look you nid plenty of prayers and luck for you to even just a lookin from venture capital firms-and there are a handful in Nigeria-theres Actis-they funded The Palms, or shoprite if you like for $40million. There's Vectis somewhere in VI.They are a greek venture firm with $2billion to spend in Africa.theres Grofin,just about toset up shop in Abuja, theres capital alliance, theres fistfunds etc etc.But they wont give you money,cronysim is the other of the day.If you ever got to seat with any of their Md's, you'd rather beg they take up your project, chances are, you wont even get that far, and you are even talking about patent.If they dont run the figures, dont go thru ur P&L, cashflow etc, you dont even stand a chance, dats means you give them your excel worksheet,asides your bplan. you think you'll even have the guts to talk about an NDA or intellectual property at that time? they have so many projects, they dont even care if you walk in.matter of fact, they'l be very happy to see your back through the door with your grand idea.dont kid yourself my idea,no idea is dat grand, not here in Nigeria.wat you should be praying is to get a look in first then hope for best.steal your idea?very funny.last time i was at one of their offices, the folks were looking at a $15million 4 star hotel that Standard Chattered was promoting and you want to start telling a man like dat about intellectual property of N10million project.puhleeeeeeze!

who wants 2b a millionaire is atleast not a fraud, after one entry, no one cajoles to play again, dis mtn prmo is a big big fraud, its even more dan yahoo yahooo, in more civilzed climes, the company will be pulled in for sharp practices, av never participated in any of dia phoney promotions cos av always known they r fraudsters, but wen i saw a txt from dem about dis one, my curiosity gave in. i sent go d their sms short code, i tot i would go straight into d draw, dy now sent me a txt dat i shd send anoda sms to take me in, ditto, i did only for dem to say i mwas one sms away from d draw(no, not even draw, away frm d jackpot). i went out bought credit n sent again, dis time dy said i shd send my name so i woukd get dia jackpot, i did, only for dem to send me dis txt, ' apache, na so e easy to win N2million just ike dat. send one more sms n win ur jackpot', imagine, dy said that in pidgin after i had spent mpre dan N800, i was mad and deleted their annoying mesages, dat was a month ago, dy still kip send me txt to send one more sms to dia short code to win 'tonight draw.' assholles ders is worse dan even fraud. i spent N800, some people spent even more. if averagely, a subscriber spends N1,000 before ge runs away and lets say about only 20% of dia customers play dis game (lets 8million), they would av made N1000 x N8,000,0000.00 ie N8billion from this promo, den they will now give out about N200million in prices, see office!

Run for your life, you will only end up seeing dthings u never wanted, read my own experience on these threads. the first one was posed about 4years ago, n though me and the gurl next door are still togther here in abuja, ity hasnt ben a picnic, u will definitely regret it am alomst sure except u r rich, well to do, much older dan her, and she is the totally submissive type, wen u start seeing men come to drop her, u'l feel like dying,, trust me!

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=270901.msg3864653#msg3864653

and the follow up

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=106413.msg1871594#msg1871594

@TAI, just stumbled on ur thread n though 3months late, i just have to drop a few lines, well u made sense most of the way, but I would have been much happier if you brought ur philosophy home, as in how u r presently controlling ur own woman now, dat would assure me it has worked for u, the proponet, u may just have lifeted all dis from a  book u know? weda it has worked for u or not, i agree wit most of ur tenets though sum r outslandish, i am taking wat applies to me though,
But den, going thru ur post i still dont know wat sort of control guy i am, i see many atributes, failings from all 3types u hav articulated.am i a crossbreed?
my present gurl, av been going out wit her pushing on 5years now, i am her, longest relationship though atimes we break off for like 2 or three weeks before coming bak again, since she met me, she hasnt taken on a new boyfriend though i know she sumhow still runs things with the man in her life before me. I also feel she may have ssshaged two or three other blokes since we started going out- and she gets propositioned by d day, she is hott,pretty sexy, curvy, boobs, arrrse and all, so its always an issue fending off men, at d club men wont giv me space,, even gurls, lesbians kip hitting on her, i no know wetin dem see for her body.

So, i asked myself after reading ur thread am i a no control guy, articial control or true control guy wen it comes to my woman? she is very refractive, very difficult to control, infact her mother defers to her, because once you try to exert a hold on her, she slinks off, if the mother decides today to strt exerting overdue influence on her, i know dat gurl-she would pack her things quietly and leave her house, and she will have dozens of options where to stay, men kip begging her by d day to come into dia houses, to marry her. her mother is a widow so she didnt exert any hold on my gurl at dos crucial times in a gul\s life- at around 12-16, so now at 23, her mother cannot tell her what to do. she doesnt disrespect her mother or anything like dat though, but the woman cleverly avoids confrontation when it comes to issues they think differently. like why shd my gurl sleep outside her house or go partying without her say so. My girl is at loggerheads with most of her uncles because she feels they try to tell her what to do. as a consequence, she doesnt cal, them, doesnt ask them for anything, behaves as if they do not even exist, to her, it is better for her to go hungry than have any uncle trying to tell her what to do, dats the kind of woman i am saddled with.
controlling dis sort of woman is damn difficult, she is sexy, so men r always begging to do her favors, give her money, marry her, so long as she f***ks them. A woman like dat knows hse has plenty of options too if she decides to be promiscous. so a guy trying to control her is up to his head in work. i profess plenty of love to her, show her care, at times even go out my way to please her, so dat shd make me a no control guy abi? but, den such guys shd be d wimps not so? am no wimp. i still stamp my feet on the ground wen i feel its necessary. wen she tells me she loves me, i ask myself, does she want anything from me? when she behaves over lovingly, d red bells go up, is she setting me up as a sitting duck, she's pretty, i may love her, but i take verything she says with a pinch of salt, no control guys r not supposed to do dat, do they? plus after five years, she still hasnt left me, yes, we've had our own fair share of fights n disagreements, she has walked off with a guy right infront of me be4, av seen her in d club with d other man who was (or prbably still is, in her life), but by and large, i account for atleast 70% of her time. d remainder she shares with her friends, family, and the other men in her life. And its not as if she is waiting for a better man i always wonder. she has dozens of options. She gets propositioned countlesssly by men, many of them over the last 5years- richer, more well to do (maybe less swagger or ayajj) but definitely wit more to offer, atleast in d short term (dats wat many women look at anyway) , many of dem from her tribe(she\s Ibo) but sum how one way, we have stuck, sumhow, i feel she may have even been tempted or tried to date one or two, but it may have come unstuck, ders nobody she is seeing consistently, I shd know because i stay in the same house with her in Lagos (we dont live togther, but their flat and mine r in the same compond). Now, av temporarily relocated to a Abuja she has also relocated to meet me after 3months. So, i always wonder why she has seen many men, but she doesnt go off with any of them, when i know atleast 3 who have tried to buy off the mother with money but she hasnt caved in, yet it doesnt seem as if she sends me dat much.
And dont think am an articifial control guy either cos, am not rich, just a struggling bloke, today i have money, next tomorrow I dont, i  have always been my own employer since i left school few years ago, so i dont have a big office to show off, neither a big flat or sumthing, i stay in a simple mini flat, though i can still afford my dstv subscription anytime i have money. Wen we started i had nuthing, no car, no money, i was squating with a friend but she still liked me even then.infact i feel she liked me more then when i had no car and could not even afford to give her d 5k or 10k for hair as i do now. And dont think she doesnt like good things- she does, being fair, she is the bling bling sort of gurl who likes gold, flashy clothes and champagne. She is flashy, very flashy, but without totally managing to giv her all dis, i have still managed to kip her from thinking i dont giv her nuthin.
So I dont think am an artificial control guy either.
She always went out with me almost all the time, afternoon, evening, night etc her faimly and even friends started complaing they didnt see her enuff. i didnt always like her friends hanging out with us cos of money, without them, it was lesser bills to be paid, so i kept all of dem at bay. she always had diz rich men after her, u know how loud Ibo men can be naa? we'l walk into the club to meet a guy who was toasting her promising her heaven on earth in the same club. we'l look at dia table full of 40k champagne bottles and chops, but on my own, i'l buy her her smirnoff nad nurse my own one bottle of beer till we left.it never pushed her to leave me till now atleast, and she\s still here.
Her birthday is 2moro and i have to take her and two or three friends partying at one of the clubs around. she knows and i also know dat at d kind of places i like and she also likes, we cant drink beer there, so i told her we'l buy a bottle of champagne outside and take it along, dat was our style in Lagos, we'l go to obalende around 1am, buy a bottle of Hennesey for 4k, she'l put it in all diz dem big handbags and we'l take it inside d club cos inside, a bottle of hennessey was 25k.even if i have 25k, ders no way i'l use money like dat for champagne, atleast for now. wen i told her we'l do d same thing ere, she merely shook her head and said, ah, ah, so i have not stopped dis my lagos life, guy must put up appeararnces naa, except i take her to one road side beer parlor.
Am I True Control Man then? I dont think so. am not supposed to tel her I love her abi? I do telll her, perhaps more times than she even tells me. I call her more often than she calls me. But then because we always lived togther since day 1, calling her was never really an option. She was always in my place in the morning and by evening we always went out together. Ours is a mix massh really. I moved her from Lagos to Abuja, n wen she came, it was her money i was spending, she was d one buying me beer, buying food to cook for d house, and all cos i was damn broke. She never really complained much though.
On d 15th day here, we were at home, den she left around 8.30pm. wen i called her around 9pm,she said she was around,she went to buy sumthin-wen she has a houseboy to send. i suspected she had gone to see one of her toasters. i waited till 10pm wen she came back. i simply threw her things out, and refused all entreaties dat she atleast pass the night. Dat may have seemed hardline abi? but a woman a man has under his control cannot leave his house for one and a half hours at night for wateva reason, can she? dat was a month ago. i have since gone to beg her and say sorry, she initially said it was over between us, i threw her out into the night in a town she knew nobody. she has since relented, weve hung out a couple of times and shes now staying wit her aunt, but she has still refused to pack her things and come back. i guess der, she eats free food, doesnt pick any bills and is comfortable. my place wasnt that bad, a big house, with dstv and a houseboy she could boss around, though the house is my friends and we share bills. and its not about Koboko control really, i guess some guys have ssshagged her better dan I have or ever could, but dey r nowhere around her today.
So, i fill am not totally in control, i dont  have her on a leash as I would have expected so i'm now wondering if am d no control guy at all sef.
I think why dis gurl hasnt left me since may have to do with psychology.Fine, she has ner own indisetions, has all d chances to be promiscuous and kip jumping from man to man, but so far, she hasnt done dat. where i have a hold on her is d mind, i think av bin able to create a feel good factor around her wen we r togther. i tell her wat she wants to hear, i increase her sense of self worth and make her feel good about herself. Her sense of vanity is inflamed, so i shore dat up n give her assurances, she frets endlessly about her future and i always give her positives to look forward to. I feel dis is wat has kept her to me since cos i know its not about money, koboko, or assets. I think its d mind, dats d basic difference between me n all d other men in her life.
You r d man who knows it all, so wat type of control man am i? I wish I could say i was the true control man but am not, wish i were the articificial control man, but i lack d capacity, but, will a no control man kip a smouldering, sexually active and very much in demand woman wit him for 5years? So where do i stand wit d control thingy, my man?

guy, i feel u, but hers is a psychological problem, its medicall, it seems wat eva u give her, she\s still shag others, u shag her well, u give her money plus wat she gets so money is not it, its psychological asides therapy, ders nuthin u can do, run, i had a similar though lesser proble, my own gurl was just a flirt, she loved flirting wit men, not necessarily sleepin wit dem, but it riled me no end, we'v dated for 5years now, n though i suspect she has slept with maybe a couple of guys since we started, she has not taken another boyfriend since me, though i know she still sees, probably still sleeps with the guy who was with her before me.

Theres nuthin you can do except u want to be a cukoo

she supports u sumtimes wen u r broke, it neva crossed ur mind she gets the money from her men, shut up n dont complain

my dear, strippers ere in Naija is a synomym for ashi, prostitute or wateva u call it, trust, dey r basically whores who strip by d side, go to wallstreet, or club unique or wateva, proposition one of the gurls n see, so u r actually in love with a LovePeddler!

No long thing? why all the drama to talk to a gurl? The one thing i always keep in mind is, no matter what, get a number. Normally I simply walk over to a gurl I like(if its on d street) n say 'hi, saw u from over there and came over to say hi.' If its at d club, I walk over to her ask to buy her a drink or tell the bar tender to give her a drink(if she's not poppin Hennessey of Cristal o). Or the simple 'hi, u look nice, thot i shd let u know' to the bland "hi my name is Apache, lets be friends".

Bottomline, is am always looking for an opening. The most difficult part is the first thing to say especially if she is in the midst of friends. Last gurl i toastd, i saw her on d street they were like 4 of dem. I watched dem go over to an ATM. She was sandwiched between her friends wen I came, I simply told her I had to park and walk all d way to say hi. She warmed up n in 5minutes later, she gave me her number.

Forget all dos tips u read o, ur sentences shd be short, no long winding sentences, dat av to delay her response for too long, u can tell her ur name, but dont ask for hers till u've put her at ease and drawn her out. Her name shd be the second to d last thing u ask, then her number, dats how i do it>