omosefeeguaibor:
When we are advocating for the emancipation and equality of women in our society, it saddens me that someone like dieziani maduekwe had the opportunity, to change the notion of the Nigerian women that is always seen as second class citizen, but failed to carry out that task to whom much is given, a lot is required all. she just achieved is soiling the name of women,and mind you she also dashed the hope of future opportunity for the women folk, by adding her name to the infamous list of women that has disappointed us from Etteh, oduah, to mention few and now allison topping that list, is it that female are worse corrupt than the male counterpart when given the opportunity, or what's the point of advocating? if @ the end of the day they don't use their office right.

jadelyn007:
I am done arguing if you cannot carry out that simple research, I am beyond blind arguments. Thanks for your time.

jadelyn007:
By the way I do intend to show you a thousand and one cases where the major motivation for rape was sexual gratification right after you do my own research.

jadelyn007:
This is how people fail exams, I just asked you to pull out 20 threads and show me at least 1 case that has provocative dressing as the major motivation and you are charting off course. Do the nairaland statistics I asked for first then we can discuss the rightness or wrongness of my hypothesis.

It's either you tell me you found such and such number or you found none, I didn't ask how many were minors or adults yet.
Even outside nairaland not all cases will be reported so let's work with the ones that are reported here I.e nairaland as our case study.

So, give me an objective answer to my previous question then we can have a good debate.

jadelyn007:
pull out 20 rape threads on nairaland homepage from 1 month back and point out 3 instances were the victims were dressed provocatively or is known to always dress provocatively. Let's take statistics, I'll leave you to make conclusion from the result of the statistics which will prove my hypothesis that what you are wearing has no effects on whether you get raped or not.

jadelyn007:


The four motivations for rape are sexual gratification,
anger rape, power rape, and sadistic rape. Sexual
gratification is generally believed to be the motivation
behind acquaintance and date rape. Anger rape is
generally not premeditated, but it is violent and spurred
by anger and resentment toward women. Power rape is
spurred by the need to control and dominate. Sadistic
rape is usually premeditated and ritualized, frequently
subjecting victims to degradation, mutilation, torture, or
murder. (Rathus, S.A., Nevid, J.S., and Fichner-Rathus,
L. (2005). Human sexuality in a world of diversity.(6th
ed.) Boston, MA: Allyn and Bacon cited in http://
voices.yahoo.com/a-clinical-look-rape-12079426.html )

This is what clinical professor of psychiatry Andrea Parrot had to say " http://
www.holysmoke.org/fem/fem0126.htm
The majority of the sexual attacks (55-61%) committed
by these men were premeditated across their first,
middle, and last rapes, while fewer rapists reported their
crimes as being impulsive (15-22%) or opportunistic
(22-24%)." take note of the word opportunustic

This study by Theresa Meiner, focuses on the topic: Sexy
Dressing Revisited: Does Target Dress Play a Part in
Sexual Harassment Cases? You can find the entire study
here http://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/
viewcontent.cgi?article=1109&context=djglp . Her
conclusion:
When I began research for this article, I expected to find
many cases involving allegations that the plaintiff
“welcomed” the sexual harassment by her workplace
attire. I was surprised to find that this was a rare case.
Defendants were not using the woman’s dress to weasel
out of claims, but instead, the woman’s dress most
commonly was present in allegations by plaintiffs.
Plaintiffs frequently raised comments about their dress
as part of their sexual harassment allegations. This
would seem to open the door to defendants, who might
use evidence of target dress to argue that the plaintiff
welcomed the harassment. Yet, that was not the case. I
have tried to account for the lack of case law and, in the
process, have gone back to the root cause of sexual
harassment: power. Sexual harassment is about power;
therefore, a target who is dressed provocatively is not
the ideal target for the would-be harasser, who appears
motivated at least in part by his ability to dominate his
victim. Provocative dress does not necessarily signify
submissiveness but instead may be an indication of
confidence and assertiveness. It is clear, however, that
comments about dress directed at plaintiffs are a
component of sexual harassment allegations. Comments
about dress are used to undermine working women’s
authority and should be considered seriously by courts
assessing sexual harassment claims.
From this study we may be moved to conclude that the
more provocatively dressed a woman is dressed the less
likely she is to be harassed. This finding seems to agree
with this feed shared by @Cherox in which I was copied
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jtes/sexual-assault-survivors-
answer-the-question-what-were-you-w . Most of the
women in this interview were definitely not provocatively
dressed.
Do well to check out the pdf file below

Timbuktou:


You go wait tire!

Mindfulness:


Stop twisting my words. The West is composed of many countries, it is not A COUNTRY. Learn that!

Mindfulness:


So because there are such movements ALL Western countries are still discussing feminism?
The topic is more important to Nigerians. Many people in many Western countries are not even familiar with these movements. I have come to learn about them on NL.

jadelyn007:
the thread was dangerously tilted towards the "what you wore caused you to be raped" I had to correct that erroneous ideology.
You assume that every reasonable person here condemns the acts without the usual what we're you wearing factor but if an anonymous poll was conducted right now you would be shocked at how many Nigerians think how you are dressed is directly proportional to the chances of you being raped.

To cut short the long talks let me summarize by saying 'HOW YOU ARE DRESSED DOES NOT IN ANYWAY REDUCE YOUR CHANCES IF BEING RAPED , IF A RAPIST IS NEARBY AND OPPORTUNITY PRESENTS ITSELF, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER YOU ARE ALL WRAPPED UP LIKE AN EGYPTIAN MUMMY OR AS NAKED AS THE DAY YOU WERE BORN, YOU ARE NOT SAFE'

5minsmadness:

Am up for it. N1000 in the kitty.

jadelyn007:
lol, so you think only sex starved men rape.? Professor ndifon could have had any woman of his choice at his Beck and call but he chose to rape, same with the afeez guy from unilag.

I would also like to know if the 14yr old girl who was raped recently in Ikorodu by a bike man was dressed seductively with well tanned and oiled skin.

Men who rape do not do it because no women are available or because women are sexually exposed. You want to tell me pedophilia is caused by d little babies well oiled bodies
It's a PSYCHOLOGICAL disoder just like the kleptomania which your country's politicians are suffering from. Unless you keep the thieves away from your political offices, your treasuries are not safe. Do you say the monies were too enticing to the politicians so it's not their fault they carted it away?

I am sick of Nigeria seriously, you make excuses for rapists and thieves and kidnappers. How bad can it be

jadelyn007:
lol. You don't get it. I am a psychologist and I can tell you that clothing doesn't incite rapists.
It's a deep sitted psychological disorder not arising from clothing.

Even if every woman in the world would face veils like the Arabs, rapists would still rape that. It won't reduce the incidences.

I get really pissed off when educated people make stupid assumptions without doing any research.

Rape doesn't have anything to do with clothing, rapists are not incited by what you are wearing. As soon as they get the opportunity whether you are fully clothed or not they would do what they know how to do best.

If there was any correlation between clothing and rape do you not think that there should be no incidences of rape in places like the middle east, India inclusive

Mindfulness:


Please! Stop taking the West as an example to prove how feminism has made their lives unbearable. Despite feminism, men in the West are MUCH MORE satisfied with their lives than Nigerian men. As a matter of fact, in MANY Western countries feminism is not even being discussed any longer. Men and women feel that they have reached a level of equality they are satisfied with. Men in the West do not suffer like Nigerian men. Why is that so?

Timbuktou:


See the response of one of them


How can somebody like this be taken seriously? Much more unfortunate is the fact that these kinds of people will raise children. What they foolishly fail to realise is that the so-called movement for equality they want to kill themselves over is a dying movement in the wst they hold as the epitome of paradise. Only about 18% of Americans identify as feminists, that's male and female by the way, the word has become so tainted more than half of the US wanted the word banned before they nearly went over a cliff. Banned! . It's a shame that our dry-skinned sisters and their mothers, Chilli I see you, would sheepishly tag along something they don't understand likes flies latching on to shiit.

I find it funny that on the fourth page of this thread, not one acclaimed feminist has been able to refute a single claim made by this supremely more intelligent sister of theirs. I await, though. There might yet be hope.

egift:


He dropped it hot. He was specific on what is important. President Buhari is generally your regular comedian, no time for mesmerizing you with words and tales of nonsense.

"The Wait Is Over" - President Buhari

Timbuktou:
Oh, yeah? How do you know this?
And why not? At least she has told us, quite eloquently why she isn't one. What's your reason for not being one?
Like she mentioned, I did a quick google search for you. Here, got this on the first search result page : www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2013/oct/24/shame-our-prisons-new-evidence/?pagination=false You're welcome
Careful now. You'll need to provide proof that what she's said so fr is trash. You got proof to contradict her assertions. Hint: google could be of help to you.
Deep sigh. Face palm. *insert exaggerated show of exasperation here*

onatisi:
wait for liar Mohammed version of the story. He will tell you buhari was in that meeting in an unofficial capacity and that other people didn't see him because he disguised his appearance

Mindfulness:


What is speculation? That it is not a relationship at eye-level? You have ignored this point.

The fact that Heidi had a stable home does not mean that she has no daddy issues. We don't know it. I have a cousin who married a man 16 years older, she is from a stable home but has daddy issues.

cococandy:
lol I didn't say your figure in the link for US is a lie.
I said it's a lie that rape is higher in the US than in India.

omo get your comprehension in shape.

Anyways I've agreed with you. So you can rest now.
Funny dude.

#FACTS.

freecocoa:
I'm not digging myself into any hole.

Where is the accepted treatment of what you call "sluts" rape? Is there a way agreed upon by which sluts should be treated?

I try my best not to judge or label people, especially on issues not generally accepted.

Even if I do have a definition of who I consider a slut, I don't think they deserve to be treated a particular way for being sluts.

cococandy:

Lol Because I didn't want to address that freaking lie?

You admitted by yourself that rape is less reported in places like India and there is the tendency for for that in America to be exaggerated as a lady can sue you for sexual assault if you touch her in any offensive way even you didn't go all the way.

Man I don't have time such baseless argument.

So rape is higher in America than in India or Nigeria?

I believe you and I agree.

And I accept that this is because American women dress scantily most of the time even though in many states it's cold 3/4 of the year so people can't even afford to be half nude even if they wanted to except during the warmer seasons.

How great.

Can we end this meaningless debate on that note?