₦airaland Forum

freecocoa:
Seriously dude, what kinda women you's been hangin' with?

So in your own definition, women want to roll with a good or bad alpha but settle for betas?(as defined by you) If there are good alphas, why not stick with them? Or are you substituting a wimp for a nice guy?

Hehehe

Isn't it obvious from the comments on this thread alone that women will pick the alphas first and foremost? The attraction that he exerts on the woman is non-negotiated it is in fact a natural response to his overt and pronounced masculinity.

As long a woman perceives a man as alpha he will get top priority in her mate selection decisions.

Women settle for the betas because as I said earlier the alphas are in short supply and in many cases where he is the bad boy type, doesn't have any long term interest in the woman.

Oh and yes betas/nice guys tend to be wimps, all their placating behaviour usually leaves them in the friendzone.

Stillfire:
Please go and read a book or two romance novels and understand what women classify as 'bad boys'.
The movie 50 shades of gray (if you can't read) is close minus the protagonist's sexual psychological dysfunctions.

There are two types of bad boys
James bond panache vs Lil Wayne swag

God knows I'll definitely go for James Bond panache between those two types.
Lil Wayne Hiphop swag is nothing short of crude. Mostly women endeared to hiphop would want to have anything to do with such nonsense.

The classic male in romance books are millionaires/billionaires, handsome, confident and very direct.

Most men can never achieve these four feats at a time, Lmao.

Sorry guys! Most do not qualify as alpha males. Tehehehe

True that!

What women find instrinsically attractive, the alphas are in short supply. Society is full of more betas than alphas - and this is where the wahala starts; women would love to marry or settle down with the alphas but since they are not enough to go round many end up with betas. The relationships they enter into are eventually filled with resentments and unhappiness as the women constantly yet unconsciously subject their betas to tests (which he fails) in the hopes that he might alpha up. If it is a marriage the woman will start entertaining thoughts of bailing, or propose an open marriage, all so that her 'alpha needs' can be met.

In all this we see again that the nice guys aka betas, always come last.

freecocoa:
Yet you guys somehow managed to proclaim the guys with good character, betas, or can't an alpha male be a nice guy?

Not all alphas are bad. They can have good characters but what makes him alpha is that his goodness, so to speak, is all wrapped in a distinct masculine package. He is his own mental point of origin especially when dealing with women. This should be the ideal that all men should strive for.

In the same light not all betas or nice guys are good people. In fact it may well be that the things that makes a beta who he is is one type of insecurity or the other. The nice guy unlike the alpha is always supplicating to and placating the women in his life. He thinks that his desire to please the woman by doing all those nice things will be rewarded with her intimacy or sex.

freecocoa:
We are not saying the same thing jor.

All I see in your post is you saying, nice guys are betas and that's so very wrong, please don't tell me 50 and his likes is your definition of the alpha male, seriously dude? it can't be same for all women so the generalisation is just not fitting at all, there are women who have never at any point in their lives wanted a bad boy.

Lol.

The thing about alphas is that they embody or give out pronounced masculine cues. The masculine traits in their pure form comprise strength, courage, mastery, dominance, and much more. That's what makes a true alpha.

These are the things that ALL women are hardwired to respond to and why we can comfortably generalise so. A man may have a bad or good character but gives out those cues strongly - he is alpha.

Shymm3x you know with your list above the ladies will only pick the men they perceive to be alpha. You can't question or analyse their choices because it is based solely on their perceptions.

freecocoa:
Mehn! I honestly don't even see an argument here because I can't relate to your assertions, it's very wrong to be so emphatic on the matter.

As far as I know, many mature women who know what they want, are turned off by the typical bad boy persona, it comes off as very juvenile, you sound like the 'nice guys' are not men enough A nice guy has the traits a real woman wants, he just knows how to handle it, unless you are putting a sissy in the place of a nice guy.

Vivica being attracted to 50 is not standard for all women.

No argument here. You know, in a sense, we are saying the same thing. Ok let me break down my position some more

Vivica being attracted to 50 is an example of the dynamic that describes female attraction.

Female attraction is basically two fold in nature; the organic and automatic pull of pronounced masculine traits in a man and the push for long term provisioning and comfort.

Unfortunately very few men can satisfy the twin nature of female attraction. Men easily fall into two groups in this regard, the "bad boys" and the "nice/sweet guys", the alphas and the betas, if you will. The bad boys exude those masculine traits that engender an automatic and non-negotiated response alas because of their bad boy persona they can be harmful choices to the women. The nice/sweet guys are the ones that can easily satisfy the other half of female attraction needs - i.e, the long term provisioning part, but alas in doing this they do not generate an automatic or organic response. (The nice guys because they suppress the distinct masculine traits will 'always come last' because of this fact)

This dichotomy is always present in all women attractions matters.

"Mature women" find the bad boy persona juvenile because they realise it comes up short when considering the long term provisioning aspect of their attraction. [s]I'll go forward and add that in their not so mature days the women gave themselves to the bad boy types but saying that would only trigger another round of debate that this section is famous for.[/s]

freecocoa:
This doesn't prove anything really, it all depends on individuals.

Oh but it does. It's the big H at work, that quiet (but not so quiet these days) push and pull to which ALL women are subject. Women are innately drawn to men with pronounced masculine traits - dominance, strength, aggression, etc, traits which the "bad boys" somehow naturally exudes and which the nice guys have stifled or suppressed. This pull is automatic and non-negotiated.

Even if the woman later settles for the nice guy because he easily offers comfort, provisioning and stability she will always on some level hold out for those "bad boy" traits.

See the Vivica example above, while she realises she cannot be with 50 she still acknowledges the attraction she has for him.

The alpha widow is widowing

atlwireles:
If MTN spends less than 6% on reinvestment, 61M Nigerians would not be their customers today. By the way, MTN is a publicly traded company, you can buy shares and partake in their dividend payments. We need more companies like MTN not less.

Tell them.

The question we have to ask all those shouting capital flight is this: how many Glo lines do you have?

Finally a Chinese brand we can trust.

Amazing. So the projections are based on immigration.

Yes, its a misconception that the birth rate is dropping. All the facts say it is on the rise (about 2.5% annually)

http://www.indexmundi.com/nigeria/population_growth_rate.html

http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.POP.GROW

http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/nigeria-population/

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/nigeria/population


The population in Nigeria averaged 96.40 million from 1960 until 2014 reaching an all time high of 178.52 million in 2014...

The population of Nigeria represents 2.35 percent of the world's total population which arguably means that one in every 43 people on the planet is a resident of Nigeria.

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While there are debates about the accuracy of the country's population figures it is without doubt that all indicators point to a continued growth in whatever baseline figure is agreed on.

Dropping where? Nigeria is projected to be the third most populous country by mid century. All available records (CIA Fact Book, UN, FG etc) indicate that we are currently experiencing a population explosion.

So relax ladies, the wave isn't stopping anytime soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hmlPtRu1SQ

Mikollon1:
Argument I've advanced from page one to this current page?

Since you can't reason, I can't help you. Have you smelled your ass yet?

Keep it moving kid. I'm done having you used.

C'mon man. You really don't want to do this.

Nobody is buying your argument because what you are trying to do is fundamentally flawed. With this thread you are trying to import the anger and (genuine) concerns men in Western climes have into the Nigerian situation. It won't work. Right now it comes across as baseless conspiratorial bull but your desire to be some type of Pour Hommes activist beacon prevents you from seeing this.

I'm all for menfolk becoming aware of all the schemas that are at play in society at large even as it becomes increasingly femcentric. Any call for men to step up to the demands that their gender imposes on them and recover ground they've lost I will support, but this your argument right here? No way. Unfounded conspiratorial talk and FUD does not count as a call to awareness.

what did Kimoni say in her initial post that was insulting?

Mikollon1:
Read that quote over n over. If you still can't smell your ass after reading it then read it again. Read it till you smell your ass.

Splendid. Resort to insults because you are unable to advance a solid argument.

Mikollon1. All I see from your comment is a whole lot of fear-mongering to buttress your claim. If the Nigerian government was actively involved in social welfare like I mentioned earlier then your argument would have had some merit. Anyone who honestly observes the political front in this country will tell you that for now all talk about social welfare is just high sounding rhetoric.

Is paternity fraud a problem? Yes, and probably more widespread than we know but to suggest that the FG has a hand in perpetuating it, given the abysmal manner which it meets is responsibilities to its citizens, is just ludicrous.

babygirlfl:
Please get it right. I am not in any way trying to make you believe in feminism. It is usually non feminists that keep pushing and bullying feminists into dropping the movement. You people keep calling feminists in things that has nothing to do with them. I can bet you that if you don't call feminists they will not call you into things. You give what you cannot take. In this argument you have continuously spoken about feminists in a derogatory way yet you expect to talked to in a nice way.

Okay this is the second time this line of reasoning has been dropped today; that the feminist movement is a group of choir girls who do not "hound" people who do not share its beliefs. The interwebs is not only filled with aggressive blogs and articles from feminist directed at people who are not sympathetic to their cause, there are reports of actual attacks and hounding carried about by them. Check out the few stories below

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/horror-mob-of-topless-pro-abort-feminists-attacks-rosary-praying-men-defend

http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=5989

http://m.therightscoop.com/you-have-to-watch-rabid-feminists-attack-daily-beast-writer-for-daring-to-defend-man-accused-of-rape/

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/375442/feminists-attack-kirsten-dunst-over-her-gender


@topic

While the issue of paternity fraud is real and in some western countries government assisted I think the claim that the Nigerian government, directly or indirectly, allowing the price of testing kits to remain high is hogwash. The high cost has nothing to do with the FG and everything to do with the bizarre greed-driven pricing system of foreign products in this country. Nigeria does not have the established welfare system that is found in the West for it to be concerned with who is raising the children in the country, we are not at that stage yet.

cococandy:
Again It's a free world. I don't see the 'international body of feminists' auditioning for members. Or hounding those who don't share the same opinions as them.

Really?

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arabianights:
I dont remember involving you in our conversation though i stand to be corrected.

If you actually followed our conversation ,you would have learnt that we were not having any rude exchange of words like yours.I actually learnt alot from him and hope to learn more.

Learn to correct people.His intelligent and diplomatic manner in approaching my comments proved he is a wise and success ful person as well as matured.Without mincing words,he is the type that most will listen to.


Your approach on the other hand will never get you to the top even if you are deserving or intelligent.

Do have a pleasant week ahead,sir


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I JUST WENT THROUGH YOUR PAST TOPICS AS WELL AS POSTS ....................TO CUT THE STORY SHORT,WALLAHI TALAHI,I HAVE INSULTED MY SELF BY RESPONDING TO YOU.THE KINDA COMMENTS YOU STATE AS WELL AS POSTS YOU ENGAGE YOUR TIME IN SAYS ALOT ABOUT YOU

This is a weak cop out but I understand your need to run away.

Aside from making what basically amounts to xenophobic attacks in the comment which you were quoted you are unable to provide specific instances for your claim that South Africa "makes it difficult for us to do business with them"

When you make unfounded claims on a public forum such as this you have to know that you will be called out on it.

Many thanks to the other guy for providing the much needed education and solid counters to your posts.

arabianights:
YOU ARE 100 % RIGHT but u still dont get the logic or what am trying to state.my argument is not on ownership or what ever.I therefore dont see the use of your history on Next or as well as the building housing it as i know all this.

Am i a shareholder in Next? No but am damned proud of what they are doing and how far they have come.I hope and pray that they open more outlets in the country

However much as Shoprite is a franchise that sells Nigerian manufactured products ,we need to also encourage our own .We need to develop our businesses to the extent that investors will export our franchise.South Africa makes it tough for us to do business in their country, y should we therefore invest in their country.For goodness sake take a good look around you ,am sick of tired of these franchises.
We are using our own hands to harm our local manufactures/Business men which of course impacts on our economy
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Come to think of it,Can someone answer y amigo (Now known as 4 u) supermarket sells more of foreign products than our manufactured products?

We dont get opportunities made easy for us to do businesses in alot of the countries that have franchises here yet we give them red carpet with roses scattered on it to walk into Nigeria.

I pray some dirty politics is played and shoprite loses lots of money or simply gets frustrated out or better still loses customers.Bad of me? i know! but am just tired and Angry !

Cite specific instances or cases of this difficulty.(the line in bold)

Its amazing that you do not realise the xenophobic tone of your comment especially the last paragraph. Even after the much needed clarification provided by the other poster to your comment you still had to do outdo yourself with this one.

SMH

Deep Water - Dr Dre ft Kendrick Lamar

Massive track right there!

Living Right - Lil Wayne ft Wiz Khalifa

White Girl - Lil Wayne ft Jeezy

The first photo though.

What camera was used in taking the picture.

This is some gangsta ish. Na wa.

Raymondenyi:
Africa is a curse to this world

Crazy talk

Singapore here I come!

See what happens when boundaries are not respected? A totally avoidable and unnecessary display of shame results. I'm disappointed in ALL the parties involved.

Wasn't this thread supposed to be exclusively for topics under male interests?

This thread don fall hand.