₦airaland Forum

This thread is becoming more comical by the minute.

After losing points on the economy and education front, the attention of madam Pidgin and her crew appear to have shifted to another instantly concocted metric to weigh against whether our project manager with his N400k/m job should remain in 9ja or not - fame and recognition. LOL

Pidgin2:
It seems you lack comprehension. Go back and read the two links I posted and location I stated before posting trash here. Read all my posts thoroughly before mentioning my moniker

Seeing as you keep getting owned on this thread you now resort to vitriolic remarks now? I merely opened and posted pictures from the links you provided so that means you take credit for the trash. What is amusing is that you continually provide the material that is used to unseat you in this debate.

Readers are just waiting to see at what point you'll realise that you are in too deep in the hole you've been digging for yourself here.

Here are some of the types of houses available to our project manager, assuming he lives in Lagos, as recommended by madam Pidjin2. (Yay middle class!) All these houses are nowhere near VI or Lekki which is probably where his office is located. We'll not talk about the monster Lagos traffic he has to deal with every day just to get to work.

^^^

This madam sef,

All the links you posted are saying the same thing: Nigeria is currently in a recession. It all runs contrary to your assertion that things are not bad and that the prospects for the guy in the original post are better off in Nigeria than in Canada; that has been the thrust of your posts here.

zeelo2014:
I've enjoyed the arguments, seeing things from different perspective. Truth be said, everyone here has made a valid point.

No not everyone has made valid points. Some points here are just totally laughable; it is clear to everyone that some people are just arguing because they don't want to feel bad about their side of the argument - as though what we are saying here is a reflection of who they are, it is not. They are afraid to call a spade a spade (I wonder why??)

The cognitive dissonance in some people's posts here is real.

zeelo2014:
7. Miscellaneous expenses in naija is extreme, car repairs, tyre puncture, owambe, committee of friends, phone loss, laptop falls when nepa did the usual, ponzi loss, beggy beggy girls, suya, careless waka, fuel scarcity, istandwithtuface, traffic robbery, malaria drugs, brother epp me epp me, gen repairs..........

Pidgin2:
We have the option of using ACs or fans and there is no utility bill attached to using them, cable is not necessary here too (it is free to watch many channels without cable)

Wonderful.

Magic fans and AC.

...or just logic fail.

Pidgin2:
I don't need to pay for heating here so that's free. I find most utility bills are a lot cheaper here compared to living abroad. For example, if I chose to supply my own water(on a permanent basis) I won't need to ever pay for water bill also bills like cable cost from $3 upwards, data for most networks is like $3 per month, I think because we earn less compared to America, UK, Canada, etc we pay less too. Imagine minimum wage here is a meagre N18,000/month.

All through your posts I have noticed that you don't compare like for like. You do an apples to oranges comparison.

You don't need to pay for heating just as Canadian don't have to pay for AC during winter.
You don't need to pay for water bills because you don't make use of the state water board services. Move to Abuja, specifically in the city centre area, and report back.
The man on minimum 18K wage is still not able to pay his house rent, transport, health and education not to talk of things like data. This is not so for the man on minimum wage in the west. He'll pay those things and get even better quality than his counterpart in 9ja.


Apples for apples and oranges for oranges.

Pidgin2:
Even America was in recession a few years ago yet they bounced back so why do I get the feeling that you think we will never come out of this? So to you being in recession at the moment is now a valid reason to make a long-term decision like relocating forever the best way forward

You only see what you want to see. smh

I have been saying that the OP should stay back in Nigeria to help develop the country. If everyone leaves the country, who will help build the country?

The point I was making is that Canada has more opportunities than Nigeria for financial success right now. Arguing otherwise is just akin to ignoring the glaring facts around. Also, telling the guy that his 400k/month is enough to insulate him from the shocks the economy is experiencing is foolhardy. If he thinks he is comfortable, let him consider that his comfort is the same that low-income earners currently have in the west. If our project manager is looking just for money and a better quality of life then Canada holds a better option for him now than Nigeria.

Pidgin2:
Why are you always looking at the worst case scenario? You mentioned "look for fuel" far too many times than appropriate in your post, please take note, we don't look for fuel every day, most times we drive into filling stations like you do and buy fuel like you do.

If you pay $50 for electricity this means you spend about N33,500 for electricity monthly, that's like 230 liters of fuel per month assuming I am using my generator for light I will not need to use more than 100 litre of fuel to get constant power monthly especially if I am using a solar panel or inverter as a substitute. I know you are not used to these terms but I am being realistic also we have light for at least 6hrs per day on some places it is better other places are worse, States like Port Harcourt can boast of at least 12hrs/day so I don't understand why you keep insisting on running your Gen 24/7 if you live here

When the economy was much better than this: from 1999 to 2014, especially from 2010 to 2014, the size of the middle class grew and most of them lived very well. Many bankers and government workers spent most of their vacations abroad with their families, many could afford to spend $2000/year paying for service flats with 24/7 constant power, security, recreation Centre and so on. It is an exaggeration for you to compare their lifestyle with low income earners abroad.

My cousin who is a nurse has never gone on vacation with her kids since she relocated to US years ago, every dollar she spends has to be accounted for (she's married) she just bought a car on mortgage lol.

Paying from $24,000/year upwards for a one bedroom flat to a Nigerian is ridiculous, this is like N12,000,000. with this kind of money you can actually purchase a two bedroom flat for life here with no extra charge.

Is looking for ISP now a hard task to do, I am sure you also have to make a choice over there too but it's nothing to worry about, most Sims cost about 40cents or less so why should this be a problem to acquire here?

I never said US /Canada is not more developed than Nigeria, I said there are also opportunities here as well. Contrary to what you might think, Nigerians are making it here too.

Tsk tsk tsk

Forget my dashing good looks and fine boy flows, I be omo 9ja o. I can regale you with stories and experiences of Nigerian life till tomorrow. I have lived and worked in PH, Lagos and Abuja, now I live in Ontario and I am able to see for a fact many of the things we are discussing here. My job then also gave me the opportunity to travel to many other Nigerian states. I still have family in PH and Lagos too.

My folks in PH - Ada George area to be precise, have not had up to 12 hours of uninterrupted power supply in years. Right now they use generators to get about 4 hours of electricity daily (7-11pm), you can imagine the ruckus their neighbourhood experiences when everybody turns on their gens at night. When the perennial fuel scarcity raises its ugly head another layer of stress is added to their lives. All this is nothing compared to what many other Nigerians face.

Nobody is saying life in Nigeria is all gloom and doom. There are financially successful people there too as there are in almost every country. Problem is, things are not looking good for anyone at the moment. Even the rich are experiencing a diminishing effect on their wealth as a result of the state of the economy. They are, however, able to ride out the difficulties better than others because of how much they have.

Things may have been better in the past but that's not the case anymore. That's why my statement that middle-class pay in Nigeria now translates to low-class Western living remains valid. It is foolish to paint a rosy picture of Nigeria right now.

Alikote:
See brain debate becoming informative now its 1 O in favour of the remain in nijia group

If the reasons for relocation are based on just current economic or financial prospects then Nigeria loses out to Canada whichever way you dice it. It is laughable when people try to argue otherwise.

Thing is, economic prospects while a critical factor, are not the only rationale for choosing to stay or relocate from 9ja. There are valid cultural and familial considerations that should be weighed before a decision like this is made. From a socio-cultural perspective, Western values and Nigerian/African values are different. The mistake many people make is that they think that the Western way of life is the only way modern life can be lived.

Pidgin2:
Sometimes I wonder at the reasoning of some people. I am very sure you are squatting with someone there to be able to survive on that amount and still have change left. Do you think everyone posting here is unlearned?

Say your truth how much do you barb your hair at saloon? I am guessing $20 that's like N10,000 here whereas most average people barb their hair for less than N500 per week. You think we are stupid here?

You spend in dollars while we spend in Naira, it is not the same thing. Fuel here is about 30 cents per litre when converted so what are you talking about na. I see you converted your monthly salary to naira, is that what you use to pay for goods and services over there?

Your heating alone(monthly) can be up to $50 that's like N25,000 here to make yourself warm (it is free here)

Electricity might be like $75 a month, that's like N37,500 when converted to naira

Internet and cable is like $45 per month, that's like N22,500 whereas unlimited here is like N11K, cable from 1,500 upwards

In some apartments in NY ordinary parking fee is $300, rent insurance from $15 to $30

The average monthly rent for a one bedroom flat in NY is from $2000 upwards, that's like from N1,000,000 upwards.

When you guys are converting what you earn into naira just to brag try to also convert what you spend too.

Ah, now you reveal your position even further. The guy you quoted easily falls within the low-income class. A large percentage of his wages will go to covering the basic necessities of life like rent, feeding, internet, etc. What is interesting is that he is able to meet those needs, with a low-income pay!

Our big boy project manager with his 400k/m isn't faring any better - they are essentially in the same class when compared together. The needs or bills he pays with his Nigerian " middle-class" salary places him on the same level as the low-income earner in the US/Canada - and therein lies the distinction. Another difference that should be pointed out with the blue collar worker quoted above is that he will get better value for his money than the project manager. He pays for utilities like electricity, water, heating, etc and those are given to him without the hassles that the project manager goes through to get same utilities.

As a low-income earner, he does not have to look for fuel, assuming there is no scarcity, to power his generator just to get a few hours of electricity. He does not have to cycle through modems, SIM cards and ISPs just to get unlimited internet access. (BTW unlimited access in 9ja is anything but unlimited but that's story for another day) As a low-income earner in Canada, he has access to better transport and health facilities than our project manager. We can go through a laundry list of similar comparisons for days...

With the dwindling value of the naira and the associated stress of living, a middle-class pay in Nigeria translates to low-class living in the US/Canada. In fact, the translation is not accurate as the blue collar earner in the West will have more money in his pockets than the middle-class Nigerian at the end of the day.

Now if our low-income earner in the States moves up in station he will outstrip the likes of our project manager by leaps and bounds. Here is the thing, class mobility is way easier in Canada/US than in Nigeria. The opportunities abound more in Canada/US than in Nigeria and that's the point of this discussion.

In other news, 1million naira is now USD$1976 in the parallel market (at N506=$1)

Oh wait, is this what you guys mean by becoming a millionaire overnight?

Invest in real estate, acquire property, renovate and sell??

Become a millionaire overnight?? All with $790??

There must be something Eke40Seven and Pidjin2 know that the business world doesn't.

Nairaland drama.

Hehe

I just read that the naira dropped to N503 in exchange to the greenback on the parallel market. (http://punchng.com/naira-tumbles-503-parallel-market/)

That means that our N400K don turn $795.

Pidgin2:
Well we don't pay enough taxes down here while the middle class pays for these things over there so I don't see anything wrong in providing some things for ourselves.

The middle class are not all digging boreholes lol those who stay in urban centers do have running water in their homes(don't get me wrong). Did you do any assessment on the quality of education obtainable in public schools? I would like to see an actual report on these findings if available.

The internet is replete with studies and assessments of Nigerian schools and our quality of education. Here is one of several of such studies https://nigeria.iom.int/sites/default/files/newsletter/ANNEX%20XXIV%20REPORT%20OF%20NEEDS%20ASSESSMENT%20IN%20EDUCATION%20SECTOR%202014.pdf

Here is an excerpt from the link above (pg 6, emphasis mine)

The results of the needs assessment survey indicated the presence of an enabling policy
environment for diaspora engagement in the Nigerian education sector. The results showed that
there are currently debilitating skills and competency gaps in the nation’s education sector. The
analysis of both qualitative and quantitative data revealed acute skills gaps in the core disciplines of
science, foreign languages, mathematics and basic technology at the basic and post-basic education
levels while special education, computer science, technology, law, engineering, medicine and
surgery were identified as domains of skills shortage in tertiary education. The results of the
assessment further revealed that teachers at all levels of education generally lacked ICT, counselling
and pedagogical competencies. The results also showed that lack of modern infrastructure, scarcity
of teaching materials and inadequate research equipment in Nigerian educational institutions are
“push” factors accounting for the exodus of Nigerian academics to other countries in search of
greener pastures.

That pretty much sums the state of things as regards Nigerian education. We really don't need a study to tell us that.

Nobody is saying that everyone in Nigeria is doomed to a life of poverty and suffering. There are people who are financially successful in 9ja but the fact remains that the opportunities for financial success are few and reducing rapidly by the day. This is, unfortunately, the case for many who are willing to put in the work required. What abounds instead are dubious means to financial wealth and its attendant problems which we deal with every day.

Twist and turn as we may, Nigeria loses out on the chances of financial/economic success front to Canada.

Like I've been saying throughout this thread there are actually good and valid reasons to want to remain in Nigeria but those reasons fall outside the realm of personal financial/economic prosperity. In fact, if it were based on just those factors then remaining in Nigeria is not the wisest of choices especially if one has the chance now to relocate.

You are not doing your side of the debate any good with the points you are raising as those are even compelling reasons why anyone with the means should leave immediately. Most, if not all, of the responsibilities that the middle class in Nigeria currently bear, have long since been borne by the state in first world nations like Canada. As a result, the middle class there is free to channel its resources, time and effort to professional/personal development and wealth creation.

The middle class in 9ja do not have this luxury; they are still digging their own boreholes, patching their own roads, buying generators to supply their own electricity etc. The quality of education in public schools is now way below the desired level required for life in the 21st century, it was not like this when the current crop of leaders attended them back in the day.

Pidgin2:
Hey, stop listening to stories on the Internet try to get actual experience.
I have discovered that most people writing bad things about Nigeria are the frustrated folks who would rather cross to Europe through Lybia than to be productive to themselves.

You say we don't have running water here? Well, that's a big lie, we do. And if anyone does not then they can supply their own water by digging a bore hole for themselves or their communities (no one pays tax for this and you get constant water for life once this is done). They can form groups to achieve this if funds are limited.

Public schools are totally free here too and most of our leaders today attended these schools, people can also make choices based on their budgets on the kind of schools they want their kids to attend, they can also home school if they chose. As for light, we were paying only N87/ltr for fuel to run our gen in 2015, I believe we can get back to that again with good leadership. Some places do have good light supply. Alternative energy like solar and wind is being used privately.


Alternative medicine here is an option which people use (just like in China and India) our grand parents lived very long too. As for Western medicine, some states do give free basic health care to pregnant women and children under 5. Most government and state hospitals are heavily subsidized

Nigeria is not hell, contrary to what you might think so someone earning N400K a month can expand his wealth greatly in an almost tax free country. Everything depends on him and his God

Eke40seven:
\Well, it is important to clear so many misconceptions or if you live in North America or Europe you probably would know better. Do you know that right now, most oil companies have laid-off their workers instead of recruiting? Do you know that the possibility of getting a job straight away even after a year is possibly a hoax? At least, in Europe, i know that is absolutely time wasting, you must start from the scratch. My brother, if you earn 400k in Nigeria, you stand the chance to live more like a king than someone earning 3 times that amount in these western countries, bar access to credit and mortgage.
There is nothing calculated about leaving a high paying job of up to 400k to Canada with your Nigerian degrees to look for job in a very poor performing sector. A risk it is, but calculated, i doubt.

A job in the Nigerian oil sector (today) that pays 400K/m is anything but guaranteed or comfortable. The downturn in oil prices has forced many companies to downsize or cut cost drastically as you have rightly noted and it is still ongoing. Will it not be prudent for the man in our OP to look to increase his chances of success or should he grow complacent in the fact that he is living better than his neighbours who are currently stricken by poverty?
He is currently single, if he gets married tonight I can bet you that that pay will no longer seem kinglike to him.

The fact that he is currently a project manager in the oil industry doesn't mean that's the only sector he can work in overseas. Project management cuts across many industries and sectors. No mention is made of his educational background though. I personally think people should head towards pure STEM courses or fields because that's where the chances of success are highest.

Nice posts thesoj and Zeelo. I was surprised when people were suggesting that N400K is a comfortable sum in today's environment.

The guy in question is considering whether to migrate not only through a student visa but through the skilled migration program. If he does go the route of skilled migration like the Express Entry program currently running in Canada his entry into a comfortable middle-class status or higher is fast tracked so long as he remains proactive and continues to prove himself. All that talk of starting from scratch or waiting forever before attaining a reasonable level of success is exaggerated. The people who are unsuccessful are usually those who not only studied a non-STEM related course and therefore do not have any skills that are in demand or transferable to the Canadian economy but they failed to stay on top of their game.
I'm not saying it's a bed of roses but his chances of success are much higher if he works hard and stays sharp.

But again all of this is just one consideration to make before deciding on whether to leave or stay in Nigeria. This is just the financial part. There are still many valid reasons to stay in Nigeria and the guy should not base his reasoning on just the financial part.

Nigeria needs you. You people should not run away

Schwartz:
Its because of people like you that I do not write online. How does wearing gloves make you to insult me? You think everyone you meet online happens to be your mate? Silly

Oga I didn't insult you o. Apologies if you somehow felt insulted by my post.

Schwartz:
Have you lived abroad before? Or you are just assuming things? He will earn more doing what job exactly? A person on the lowest minimum wage will earn more than 400k equivalent indeed Do you know how expensive it is to live abroad? Do you know what it means to pay bills? Do you pay tax? plus other deductions? How much do you think you will have left as savings at the end of the day? What visa is the guy even planning to use to relocate? someone earning 400k in Nigeria is rich and comfortable. The equivalent of that in dollars wont do much. You wont be rich with that money in Canada. This is 2016 Nigerians should stop having this mentality that once you come abroad you 'HIT" so much money or that you will be swimming in cash. Before you settle down here you will face challenges. Then again the weather there is really cold. Today its 1 degree celcius in Germany, we had to wear gloves, head warmer and the whole winter garbs. Everyone was rushing home. Then to hear that Canada is -46 degree today means that Canada is way way colder than Europe. I cant even see myself enduring that kind of cold.

Tell me more about living in Canada.

1C and you are wearing toques and gloves. Una never see anything.

For the rest of your post see and understand my response to Alikote above.

Alikote:
that not how to compute money ...money is in the value it provide example we barb in nigeria for 300 naira while in canada is 50 dollar to achieve same thing that 13 k or banana IS 500 per bunch in najia while around 3000 naira in canada....it only when u bring u dollars to nijia that when u acheive tripple benefit ....

N400K is somewhere around $USD816 given the current FX rate (N490=US$1), not so?

So from a global view, a salary of N400K or $816 is nothing exceptional to write home about. The guy we are discussing currently earns N400K, that pay may be comfortable for just himself while in 9ja but should he have need to purchase anything overseas or from the international market he will see that it won't get him anywhere far. That sum is not even enough to buy an economy ticket (on BA) from Abuja to Toronto or a high-end smartphone like the Google Pixel (32GB)

The point here is that while he may be a manager back in 9ja with that pay, a person working a menial job on minimum wage is earning twice that per month in Canada.

Even with this consideration, I am saying he should stay back; Nigeria needs him

Schwartz:
Don't try it! I repeat DONT TRY IT! I live abroad, I have seen first hand what Nigerians who relocate straight from Nigeria without a waiting job offer go through. You will be starting life afresh. Your certificates and work experience you acquired in Nigeria will have to be put aside. It won't do anything for you. You have to start with menial jobs first. Then gather money and go back to school. Write multiple qualification exams. All these take years. When you are done, if you didn't read a course that is in short supply eg Medical field, IT and a few others you will face rejections before you MAY get a white collar job. For those who read economics, business admin, etc your chances are slimer especially in Germany where I reside plus I believe its so in other places too. Because I know for a fact that Nigerian women take to Nursing in the USA for the reasons I mentioned. Here in Germany the day I experienced -24 degree everyone was shaking from cold even the whites where covered so much, a lot of them were wearing thick face masks. And Shinarambo said today its -46 in Canada. That is very extreme for anyone. The grass is never greener on the other side. Remain in Nigeria, when you want to travel abroad go for a visit, With that kind of salary you earn in Nigeria, no county will reject your visa. I have seen many take this route you are about to take and they are regretting. Before you will reach the same level (managerial) you are now if you go abroad it will take many years and you may never reach it because trust me the whites you going to meet to compete with in the job market are far more educated and skilled than you can imagine.

N400K/month is ~$816/month. That pay is totally meh from a global point of view
A person on the lowest minimum wage in Canada will earn more than twice that sum within the same period.

If the person in question is going to base his decision on how much he'll earn then Canada is the better option by far. Plus one should note that people, i.e Nigerians/foreigners can and do attain managerial positions in reasonable times just as well as indigenes provided they prove their mettle just like everyone else. Even though there are exceptions, the system there is more meritorious than in Nigeria.

But there are other reasons the guy should stay in Nigeria. . . Who will make Nigeria great again if everyone runs away?

shinarambo1:



-30 is small. it was -46 this morning where I live...but i didnt feel it cos i move from one heated environment to another. It's not that bad..its only for a while then the summers are awesome.

Tonight, I ate a plate of hot eba(garri ijebu) with vegetable stew enriched with dried shrimps and stock fish imported all the way from Nigeria ... moimoi, peppersoup with better cowleg and goat meat, ewedu, semo, pounded yam, okro, yam e.t.c ...everything dey here.

Family members are one call away.....
The holidays are sufficient: 4weeks leave + public holidays per year. wetin person dey ask for again.

im that change sha... this change that we all have been expecting since the 1980's. Almost 40 years after and things have gotten worse...

-46C? Wow. I'm guessing that unless you live up in the Yukon territories or so that's a feels like reading that takes the wind chill into account and not the actual reading, but that's still very cold for many Nigerians.
Nigerian food items can be found but it may not be in the quality or quantity that he would have obtained back home. For some meals, he will have to do with local substitutes (i.e. spinach in soup) or just do without them entirely eg, suya/masai, afang soup, ofe n'sala etc. Is the guy ready for that

Let the guy stay back, too many Nigerians are looking to jump ship these days. Who will develop the country if we all run away? *wink* *wink*

Tell your friend to stay back and make Nigeria great again. All hands must be on deck, no running away [s]especially if he voted for the present government.[/s]

Does he really want to move to a place where the temperature can drop to -30C during winter? Can he stand the cold? Does he want to move to a place where the meals he grew up eating all his life are not easily available? Does he want to move to a country that has fewer public holidays than Nigeria meaning that he'll work more days than back home? Does he want to be far from his family and kinsmen and in their place have to deal with people from different parts of the globe, some of whom may have customs and behaviours that are strange to him?

Instead of all this, in Nigeria, he can be at the forefront of change helping steer the country in the right direction.

He can help make Nigeria great again. . . besides Pidgin2 needs him around.

Esetim:
This is rat oooo

True!

That's the African giant rat also known as the pouched rat. It's funny how people think they have caught a delicacy when all they have is a big rat.

oyb:
A disproptionate amount of tax in the us is being paid by the working class.the 1% are keeping their wealth in tax havens. They are the greatest beneficiaries of capitalism, but they leave the working class to shoulder the burdens of supporting the government. Donald trump is a prime example of this. He never released his tax returns, and those that were leaked showed he got a 10 year tax break based on losses.

The real earnings of the average American have remained flat while the rich have gotten richer.

I encourage you to take a closer objective look at the records and statistics people use when citing these ever popular refrains such as the line in bold above.

At face value one would think that the lot of the average American (by this I mean the middle class) has gotten worse while the rich have continued to prosper. Records showing real earnings of the average man remaining flat are only a snapshot picture of a particular time and do not take into consideration the fact the man or group of people under focus move into different and possibly higher income groups as time progresses. If this was not so then studies for example done by Alan Reynolds, an economist, which show that real consumption per person in the US increased 74% from 1980-2004 would be hard to explain if earnings remained flat over time.

Part of the reason why this particular claim gets tossed around frequently is because of how the stats are collected. Usually, when such stats are collected no distinctions are made between part-time workers (a growing number of workers now in the US) and full time. A broad range of people are grouped together and referred to as average even when this average contain sharp disparities and differences. Moreover, the stats exclude things like health insurance, retirement benefits and the like, which make up an increasing share of workers earnings.

Here is an interesting tidbit:

Three-quarters of Americans whose incomes were in the bottom 20 percent in 1975 were also in the top 40 percent at some point in the next 16 years

. Images of America: Foster City. p.7

I have not looked into who pays more tax in the US and so cannot comment about that but I do know that the vilification of the rich which has for some time now been a political tactic for some groups is one that is founded on many economic fallacies.

oyb:
It is illiterates like you that justify the proposed data increase by the telcos.high data would limit your illiteracy to your mates in the playground.

Dunce. The 1% refers to the ultra rich. If you used the Internet for anything more than Googling Davido, you would know this.

Now go and ruminate on what a government run by rich people would mean for the average citizen especially as most of them, trump in particular, got rich at the expense of the little guy.

I think it is still early days to start harping on the success or failure of Trump's cabinet. They may or may not perform well, that will be revealed as time progresses.

What needs to be checked however is the myth that continues to be perpetuated every year which is that wealth is a zero-sum game. Many people without digging any deeper accept and spread the false assertion that rich people only become rich by taking from the poor. This is simply not true. By being innovative, commercializing and spreading their ideas people literally create wealth. They do this by opening up companies which not only (in some cases) employ many people but also offer products and services that many people benefit from. Surely some have exploited others to acquire wealth but societies including the US where the 'proverbial 1%' gets vilified every day would not be where they are today without the rich. Gates, Zuckerberg, Rockerfeller, Ellison, Walton etc. . . These are names of the uber rich, their companies ideas and services have in one way or the other impacted and indeed improved the lives of the average man.

Personally one would like that to see more people who have a proven history of success be put in positions of authority. It is the man who has no track of success that I would be wary of.

yorex2011:
You have a very good point here

He doesn't have any point there. The large telcos are indeed better off selling data at low rates to a large number of people than selling it at a high rate to fewer people. Besides this NCC directive has been in existence before now it was not dreamed up or influenced by MTN or Airtel as that poster alleged.

The Weeknd is #1 in Saudi Arabia?

Who compiles this stats?

Party Monster
Six Feet
Lonely Night
Love To Lay

Those are easy favorites

Onegai:
Nigeria keeps focusing on the wrong things: you need PROPER VOCATIONAL AND TECHNICAL SKILLS, not "we are training youths to be plumbers and carpenters and bricklayers", dooming them to be minimum wage workers forever. Skilled vocational workers and employee protection. There are Nigerians who know this job but I constantly see poor Indians flocking into the country to take the jobs because they are better skilled than Nigerian and their bosses are in positions of power to protect those jobs for them.

Not sure what you are talking about. Vocational jobs like you listed above are the kinds of jobs that are least likely to be outsourced. If anything, in this age of outsourcing and globalisation people should look to acquiring more vocational and technical skills. There will always be a need for plumbers, carpenters and such jobs will need to be performed on-site where the demand is located.

Employers, just like consumers, will always look to get the most value they possibly can. They will give jobs to those who are the most skilled at the lowest cost. What are you suggesting here (in reference to your last sentence)?

coolcharm:
Hmmmm.... Abeg who dey do samsung? The baba wey dey cook am for them na confirm! Lol (all pun intended)

There are no puns in your post abi do you have a different meaning of puns?