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wonlasewonimi:
If you need to keep warm, I'm around Newcastle... Uber will bring me around in few minutes

Inkredible:
Face that we yaf see sef.

Uncle dinnor cover the smaller pic up there

erico2k2:
You are so disrespectful, what's the Point of telling us to ZIP it when we are meant to be having an intelligent conversation? is this how you talk to ur Hubby at home? Well I don't blame you. When you join him in the Uk tell him to ZIP lets see if U do not land back in 9ja,lubish.
PS anyone who want to quote me I'm open for healthy debate, I nor run but Insults forget me, I'm sure there are loads of people on here for that.

TWoods:
As Nigerians, we don’t have the luxury of summarily deciding if we want to return to our country or not. That’s a choice made by the host nation. We can cry from now till next year. Next time, read the rules, plan.

MreSBee:
Hello all.... good morning.

Quick question please. What is the easiest way to pay for the application and IHs fee from Nigeria? Do Nigerian banks allow payment that huge from using the normal Naija debit cards or you have to use a dollar/pounds domiciliary account? Anyone that has done it successfully using Naija cards should advise on what to do please. Thank you

MreSBee:
Congratulations madam..... go and enjoy the extremely cold weather and snow lol �

Geetrix:
Snow snow, go away...

Pidgin2:
If they can't afford two meals how can they afford N8 million to pay for school fees?

This post is about students that can afford studying in UK but with hope of working there when they are through so what brought about your saying they can't afford two meals?

TWoods:
Exactly my point. We all know that the basis for granting a non immigrant visa is the acknowledgment that we intend to return to our home country after the duration of the program. As you’ve rightly said, even the OP and his/her minions heard and agreed to the condition so who is fooling who with the crocodile tears now?

Lexusgs430:
Congratulations.........

Remember to pay your 33% tithe (only acceptable in £).

readynow:
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The bolded is the answer


please send it to the second one which is milisand.i sent all my document last week to the first one with the PO Box i use UPS and i insisted the document be sent to the first but the attendant at UPS gbagada said they dont sent to P O box that i should send it to milisand ie the second address i refused and i insisted that what they gave me at TLS ikeja was to sent to P O Box so after much aguement she decided to sent it to the PO BOX at sheffield but on tracking my application when it got to the UK they redirected it to milisand and this week i got a mail from home office that the application has been received. so send it to the second address although both address are the same

deji2009:
I'm a British Citizen and would apply for spouse settlement visa.
Our wedding pictures and wedding certificate is with wife in Nigeria.
Could she take it biometric session and tell them of the documents
or have it DHL to UK on a fast track premium service in time for submission along
with other documents to Sheffield. Do we pay a fee for the settlement visa, i.e. priority ?

Thank you.

gentlemate00:
You are working has a banker and you want to further your study in UK master level..well your chance of work is 1% if you need sponsor and seriouly have you not read some other post about this working after school bullshit. Please find alternative where you can work after graduation maybe your Nigeria job slot will be waiting for you when you come back.

Think twice lot of people still have this misconpetion of working in UK when only 1-2% get the work. Please find another country where you can actually work UK work is saturated.

my two cent

oxygyne:
Again, wonderful group of people you all are and give an awesome service for free. It's just awesome, thanks.
Assistance required, so just about to send documents to Sheffield and I am getting confusing information on where to send the documents to. PLEASE NOTE APPLICATION IS SETTLEMENT - PRIORITY.

Should we send to:
UK Visas and Immigration, International
PO Box 3468
Sheffield, UK
S3 8WA

or

Settlement Applications
INternational OPerations and Visas
6 Millsands Vulcan House
Sheffield, UK
S3 8NH

Thanks in advance.

erico2k2:
Boys dey apply for 5oo jobs oh ahhahs
Cos your CV is stored so in most cases you jst click apply

erico2k2:
Boys dey apply for 5oo jobs oh ahhahs
Cos your CV is stored so in most cases you jst click apply

LaudableXX:
Try not to expose your misguided brand of clueless logic on this board. The UK govt says one thing on its' website, while the UK school says another thing on their website, and fosters a different impression through several exchanges of e-mails spanning several months, with the student.

Which one will the student most likely believe, especially since they have forged stronger ties with staff and representatives of the school handling their enquiries over several weeks? The student is often left with the impression that the info on the UK govt website is a generalised one.

All you need to do, since you are so aggrieved on the UK govt's behalf, is tell them to ensure that all universities admitting foreign/international students include a disclaimer on their website in bold letters, which states loud and clear that they are not allowed to work in the UK, after their pricey degrees. So that such students can ignore the hyped testimonials, about how many students get a job after parting with huge amounts of cash, for their pricey degrees.

dupyshoo:
Hehehe!!!

I schooled in England not Scotland. If my brother/sister gets the opportunity to study for free in the UK, I will tell them to take it. Though, I won't advise them to come and spend their money here.

With regard to your other comments, first, how many of them actually go for apprenticeship? They are very few. I am a STEM ambassador and I know the struggle to get home students to study Engineering. Even British-Nigeria teenagers don't even want to study Engineering. Most of them will rather go for easier courses. I could count the number of British students studying EE while I was in Uni.

Yes, a lot of them work in construction Industry. Most of them are getting old and they need young people to fill their positions. Even those that are working just mastered what they are told to do. They sometimes struggle to make decision outside the norm as they lack understanding of the theory behind what they are doing.

I never said you will surely get a job if you apply early. I actually agree with a lot of your comments. In fact, some companies will not even allow you to go further once you state you need sponsorship. I applied for over 200 jobs myself and got rejected for over 90% of the applications I made. Did about 5-6 assessment exercise and got 2 offers. That is less than 2%. You can imagine the amount of effort I put into it as it can take you hours to even complete 1 application. Despite the effort I put in, it is not just by my effort but favour as I know a lot of people that put more effort than I did but still did not yield any results.

dupyshoo:
Hehehe!!!

I schooled in England not Scotland. If my brother/sister gets the opportunity to study for free in the UK, I will tell them to take it. Though, I won't advise them to come and spend their money here.

With regard to your other comments, first, how many of them actually go for apprenticeship? They are very few. I am a STEM ambassador and I know the struggle to get home students to study Engineering. Even British-Nigeria teenagers don't even want to study Engineering. Most of them will rather go for easier courses. I could count the number of British students studying EE while I was in Uni.

Yes, a lot of them work in construction Industry. Most of them are getting old and they need young people to fill their positions. Even those that are working just mastered what they are told to do. They sometimes struggle to make decision outside the norm as they lack understanding of the theory behind what they are doing.

I never said you will surely get a job if you apply early. I actually agree with a lot of your comments. In fact, some companies will not even allow you to go further once you state you need sponsorship. I applied for over 200 jobs myself and got rejected for over 90% of the applications I made. Did about 5-6 assessment exercise and got 2 offers. That is less than 2%. You can imagine the amount of effort I put into it as it can take you hours to even complete 1 application. Despite the effort I put in, it is not just by my effort but favour as I know a lot of people that put more effort than I did but still did not yield any results.

dupyshoo:
I don't know so many students, so I don't know the proportion. Even if you are experienced, it is still difficult to change sponsors. It is even easier to sponsor Tier 4 students as they don't require Resident labour market test.

As difficult as it seems, some people still get a job. My former employer sponsored more than 10 of us at the same time (6 were Nigerians). A year after me, out of all the grads that came for assessment centre in my business (sector), only 2 were chosen and they were Nigerians. They were also sponsored. So, there are companies out there that are still sponsoring.

It is good that people are made aware of the fact that it is difficult to get a job so they are not too expectant. However, there is still a slim chance of getting a sponsorship. It is their decision to either take the risk or not.

dupyshoo:
I don't know so many students, so I don't know the proportion. Even if you are experienced, it is still difficult to change sponsors. It is even easier to sponsor Tier 4 students as they don't require Resident labour market test.

As difficult as it seems, some people still get a job. My former employer sponsored more than 10 of us at the same time (6 were Nigerians). A year after me, out of all the grads that came for assessment centre in my business (sector), only 2 were chosen and they were Nigerians. They were also sponsored. So, there are companies out there that are still sponsoring.

It is good that people are made aware of the fact that it is difficult to get a job so they are not too expectant. However, there is still a slim chance of getting a sponsorship. It is their decision to either take the risk or not.

dupyshoo:
I agree with a lot of your comments but I don't agree with the bolded. Engineering is one of profession that it is easier to get sponsorship as British citizens hardly study Engineering. I actually know 2 people that got jobs as Elect/Elect Engineers in the UK after their MSc. last September and were sponsored. They had no work experience from Nigeria as they were fresh graduates. These people even came to UK on PTDF scholarship. So, it is all win-win for them.

I am an Engineer too and I know quite a number of my friends that we came in together that have changed their sponsors while on Tier 2. I will be lying if I say it is easy to get a job as a lot of companies don't even understand the Tier 2 program, hence they don't even want to hear that you require sponsorship.

As a lot of people have advised, think twice before coming to the UK to study. If you however decide to come, don't feel too bad if you don't get a job and you have to go back. It is a risk. It was easier before post study work visa was cancelled.

For those that still have plans to come to UK to study, I will advise they start applying for jobs as soon as they get into UK. Most grad jobs open in October and they are closed by December/January. The mistake a lot of international students make is that they don't start applying early. Before they realise what is happening, all the grad programmes in big companies that sponsor are gone. Those that even start early don't understand how to answer their competency questions. I learnt in the hard way when I had my first telephone interview and I could not even answer any of the questions intelligently. I had to take my time to learn and I never failed any telephone interview after then. This the edge people on post study visa had. They would have spent a year to understand the system which will boost their chance of securing a job.

LaudableXX:
Babe, I dey Lagos, o! But I am familiar with a lot of these issues. I am doing some work for a client now, in the oil & gas sector. We were initially thinking of running training courses for their staff at a UK institution, but with recent developments, we have discovered that the same courses are being offered at a top university in South Africa. We switched the courses to the SA school. Less stress and far less cost involved!

LaudableXX:
They usually find out on the website, and are told when applying for a visa, when they go through the 10-20 minute interview at the high commission.

Meanwhile most of the schools they applied to, (during the very lengthy application/admission process which could span several weeks of e-mail exchanges and phone conversations), never mention it and even give the impression, that students who graduate from their institutions find it easy to get jobs, or that many of them have become gainfully employed ever since they got pricey degrees from such institutions. Are the UK schools and UK govt in the business of confusing prospective students?

That is why I said that all UK schools should include a caveat in their prospectus/brochures, that international students would NOT be allowed to work in the UK, except for a few who have studied any of the STEM courses, and have a sponsor to back their application. There should be a clear section on immigration policies, in their brochures.

Once that is done, prospective students would be able to compare the cost of such degrees with existing UK policies, and would be able to make better informed decisions, by going elsewhere other then the UK, to study! Now, is that too difficult for you to understand, or must I break it down into mono syllables before it gets into your head?

LaudableXX:
Duh! The chances are very slim, and the opportunity to get a job is only restricted to a few who have studied medicine, engineering, IT-related courses etc., and NOT to most people who come to study in the UK. Duh!!

TWoods:
I get your point but I think its rather misplaced. The UK government makes it clear that a study visa is a temporary visa, obtained only for the purpose of studying in the UK, after which you are expected to return to your home country. No where is there any expectation that you will be allowed to stay permanently or get a job. The basic premise of a non-immigrant visa is that it is TEMPORARY and that the UK provides you no guarantees of "return on your investment". On that basis, I struggle to see why the thread is relevant at all...

LaudableXX:
I am still trying to find out the reason for your angst. The OP as well as a few others have made their points clear, about how the lack of job opportunities in the the UK after graduation, does not make studying in the UK an attractive option, especially after paying those huge fees for their degree programmes - degrees which could also be acquired elsewhere, at a cheaper cost.

Probably because UK schools do NOT stress this aspect enough during the application process, a lot of people may still have a wrong impression about the possibilities of working there, after graduation. Now that a searchlight is being beamed on this aspect, some of you chaps are getting worked up because you see it as a slight on your dear revered Great Britain. Why? I believe all schools should include a caveat in their prospectus/brochure that says international students will NOT get jobs on graduation, except if they have studied medicine or engineering. That way, everyone is on the same page.... my 2 cents!



Yeah....attending UK schools should NOT be a priority for Nigerian students at this time, especially when there are equally good and cheaper alternatives in other countries.

justwise:
Good, invest your money in universities in Nigeria and let the UK sort itself out.

justwise:
They do but it did not work out for you.

justwise:
..yea and also tell them that its possible to get a job but it did not workout for you.