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ochukoccna:
Shout out to saouri for this illuminating and informative thread
Why some uninformed folks are taking potshots at him/her beat me hollow?
From his/her initial post, he/she makes some very valid claims which can’t be faulted

1) Once you graduate, you are politely but firmly and persistently reminded to leave
2) You pay MORE than EU or UK students
3) You have almost no access to employment save for a few niche occupations despite the official government press releases (unless you want to label unskilled labour such as care home/factory side hustle etc employment)
4) You can get papers by marrying a UK citizen but is it worth it on the long run especially if it is a marriage of convenience?
5) Without papers and befitting employment, would you risk the trauma of been an illegal immigrant?
6) Is it worth it making the UK richer with your money without getting back employment/working papers in return?
7) If education is ONLY what you desire the UK is spot on but if IMMIGRATION is your primary motive, look to ‘friendlier’ nations .

As someone who’s had an opportunity to study in the UK, all the above points are spot on
All saouri’s doing is shattering myths premised on false thought patterns and assumptions while exposing misinformation that are continually peddled in education fairs.
What the fuss is about is what I can’t fathom

Baba, me too I can’t phantom the backlash o! In short, two crates of star for you! Worse still, these are people that are in the UK that can’t seem to read and comprehend.

The thread is meant to educate the students that believe they will work, to go elsewhere. They should be applauding the OP for this. I dare the UK Universities to put up a notice/disclaimer on their website that there are no jobs after school. They def wouldn’t do that because they know how much they make from unsuspecting students, that’s why their process is so easy and smooth!

Me sha I’m tired of arguing, anybody that wants to misinterpret the thread should go ahead. I’m already having headache

Feraz:
Are you for real bro? Got admission to study for masters in engineering (Glasgow and Strathclyde) but don't think I'm going since I couldn't secure a scholarship.

Why do you regret? Mind sharing?

CC: Aphrodite007, what do you think about the above two schools?

Both are amazing. I would advise Glasgow Cos more Nigerians are there so you won’t feel alone.

ifenes:
Why would a country priorities international students over their citizens, I don’t get the op’s cries. You went there to get a certificate and they did their side of the bargain by helping you have it. Getting a job afterwards I’m sure wasn’t in the contract. If they choose to employ international graduates over theirs,their citizens will at some point turn against them. Africa for Africa, UK for UK

The OPs problem is that he went there, spent a lot of money, studied, couldn’t get a job to get the money back and now wants to tell people that it’s a dead end Cos he knows that 98% Nigerians that plan to study there also intend to work...

So excuse me sir, what is wrong in this?

Olalekank:


wow wow wow. I just read from beginning to the end. This thread is an eye opener and I thank saouri for opening a thread like this. I was thinking of going to Ireland for MSC initially but now I'm really considering Canada.

No please go to Ireland. You will get two years post study and if your field is STEM, you can get a job hen move to Canada after two years, if you wish. Ireland is opening it borders now Cos it wants to improve its economy like the UK did. So take advantage of it before they shut it down too

Ok I am quite irritated at some comments here. A lot of “educated” people believe that we feel entitled to getting a job in the UK and that we believe that the UK government is meant to give students jobs, etc. There’s even someone that insinuated that the thread is hindering people from going to the Uk after we have gone and enjoyed it.

Smh

Education is meant to give you skills to work! Let me make this clear. So those saying that the UK degree gives knowledge have got it very wrong, I don’t need such expensive knowledge if I’m going to sit at home to count cars. Ok.

The thread is meant to inform people that they wouldn’t work in the UK after their studies. It’s doesn’t say that the UK govt must give us jobs, no, it’s just meant to collate people’s experiences and dissuade others from wasting their money. There are other countries where you’d spend less and get more.

Finally there is something called value. Value is getting a good return for your money. If I spend 8mill on education and I can’t work to get the money back, whether I’m the UK or Nigeria, I didn’t get value for my money. All you people in the UK enjoy value for EVERYTHING but now that we are asking people to demand value for their money by going elsewhere or just staying back in Nigeria, you’re upset? Such Double standards!

Oh and one more thing, yes, if it were Nigeria that was a business hub where immigrants came and stole our jobs, we will be upset. So it’s understandable and quite sweet that the UK wants to protect their citizens- I respect them immensely for that. The UK laws are solely the business of the UK, and they do not need to check with Nigerians to create the laws- this, however, doesn’t stop me from insulting them (like I insult the Useless Nigerian government) when I’m annoyed.

This message is meant to sprinkle clarity on this thread.

Pidgin2:
Please name the different Races living in Nigeria because I don't understand again

I actually laughed out loud at this can’t wait to hear about the different races in Nigeria.

eyinjuege:
What kind of funny write up is this?
I won't join those hailing you for this.
The UK has one of the best educational systems in the world.
You are going to school to acquire knowledge, and nothing else. If your aim is to immigrate under the guise of education, then thats a decision heading for failure.
Other places do need more immigrants like Canada, US. They have enough landmass as it is, and probably need the skills.
Most professional fields in the UK are oversaturated except for the health sector.
You are getting quality for the millions you spend on your education. Their deal with you was to impart knowledge which they have done. Why then do you believe they owe you to make you continue staying back in their country?
If that was you goal, you should have chosen Canada or US

Of course! When you get the knowledge you sit in your house and sip tea! I get you!

EsotericMonk:
I agree with you broh. My journey to the UK as a medical doctor is only as an easy outlet from Nigeria. I surely wouldn't be there more than a year or two cos I only need the work experience there which would give me an edge when I finally port to Canada or NZ.
Latest info : Australia is shutting their doors to Foreign Trained Docs. Guys shouldn't even waste money on that route.

I wish you the best dear. I love NZ so much so I pray you get in, I’m sure you’ll love the place, it’s so beautiful.

Oh and Aphrodite is the “goddess” of love.

dubbiskelly:
The good thing about opinions is that they are personal and not necessarily indicative of fact. I left Naija a couple of years ago after working with many companies as a nurse. My goal of coming to the UK was to do a degree for my course for just 10 months after being told I’d do same for 4 years in Naija. To cut the story short, I’m fully employed in the NHS and earning a decent living after passing all their qualifying exams.

The notion that the UK does not want Nigerians is erroneous, they are only taking steps to ensure jobs are available to citizens first before outsiders are considered, unlike Nigeria where anyone with a light skin is offered jobs as expatriates without looking the way of locals.

Nye nye nye!

This is so condescending! So. You didn’t have it in mind to work in the Uk when you went to study right? It was your spirit that applied for the job, paid for the English tests and showed up at the interviews?

Madam/Oga, I know the stress that many friends of mine went through to work at the NHS, only 3 got in out of 7, and the 3 wrote their English tests more than 4 times so please keep your condescending attitude to yourself.

We are trying to let people know that there’s nothing in the UK for them, and all you’re doing is rubbing it in their faces that studying should be the aim, excuse me, you are in a country where they don’t study and they get begged to work, studying is not sweet, it’s a means to an end. So please allow us enlighten as many people as possible on the disadvantages of burning millions of naira with no return.

Thank you.

justwise:
Don't waste your money and time else you come here to cry how UK hate Nigerians.

You can't work, study, do business, rent a house or open bank account with visiting visa.

You see what you did here? This is exactly what saouri and I are doing. We are telling prospective students not to bother going to the UK if they intend to work. I don’t think it’s fair for anybody to backlash at us, most especially if they got into the UK before the post study visa was withdrawn or are working in the med field. There is nobody that wants to go to school because it’s sweet, we all do it to land a job. We aren’t being entitled by feeling bad that we couldn’t get to work in the UK, after all, if our country was any better, would we troop into the UK in he first place?

The point is to create awareness (quite frankly I am tired of saying this) about the near-impossibility of getting a job there. Simple. Let people be aware of this then make up their minds on whether it’s worth the investment or not. I getting irritated at the condescending remarks I’m seeing on the thread!

claremont:
I agree with the OP. The UK immigration policies are increasingly hostile to international students, but don't forget, this is a country that voted for Brexit. The vote for Brexit showed that the hostility expressed towards immigrants isn't just directed at non-EU immigrants, it's directed at EU immigrants as well. The average white British has an inglorious reputation of being cold and unwelcoming, but always with an artificial smile on their faces.

Unfortunately, the current conservative government has closed all the measures put together by the previous Labour government to encourage international student to stay after their studies. I came to the UK as a naive international student in 2009, and in 2011, I got my 2 year post-study visa. In 2015, I got my British passport on the back of an immigration pathway introduced by the previous Labour government. The pathway I used circa 2009-2015 has since been closed. The 2 year post-study visa which I enjoyed in 2011 after my studies was the first to be abolished.

Personally, I wouldn't encourage any international student to come to the UK for now. We are hoping that the current government will crash very soon, so that a new Labour government can come in to revamp the current immigration system and make it less hostile to students. If you read the Labour party immigration policy statement as set out by Diane Abbott, you will find that enshrined in there is a commitment to ensure that there is a streamlined immigration pathway for international students to naturalize easily.

One cold bottle of star for you.. sorry, is it lager now or red wine? Lol. You took everything from my head and added more sef.

However I’m unsure that the labour govt will be able to take over, at least not until the old ones that are allergic to immigrants are dead. I mean, precisely because of brexit is why they wouldn’t let LP take over, especially Cos LP favours immigrants (tbh, LP just care about sustaining the economic situation in the UK and ensuring that their citizens go to school, I don’t know why the public is so blind to this).

Me sha I don’t want them to totally open up their borders, if not, every Tom, Nkem and Shola will enter the UK just like that .. I just want them to relax it a bit.

Berliner1:
Admission letter and 8700 euro( block account)...Still your money.

Wow really, Just that?

Kindly expand on your knowledge of studying in germany if you can, I didn’t know it was that affordable, I have someone that might be happy to study there, mostly because of how great they are with material science and technology.

Aphrodite007:
Uncle calm down! I am creating awareness for people that intend to work after paying such ludicrous amount in the UK.

I had no idea what was involved when I was going to the UK, if someone had told me, I would have sowed a seed in their lives to thank them! Everyone is at liberty to start a business, however, whether or not the business will be patronised is a different matter. Yes, they offered education, but you sef, when you go to market, wont you will ask for jara on top? I did not do education to sit down in my father's house, to count ceilings, I did it for a job!

Check this: if UK Unis put up a disclaimer that international students have a 1% chance of working, would they see any international student? (other than those Chinese guys, who are the real owners of blood money after the Arab guys )

Look, I personally reaped from studying in the UK, I got the most amazing man and I have a degree got me a job as soon as I returned and can get me a PhD into any school in the world with a scholarship sef. I am only worried about the people that probably borrowed that tuition, hoping to get jobs to pay it back.

Also, saying that they owe jobs to their citizens is funny, their citizens are mostly underqualified for lots of jobs thats why their are huge numbers of unmanned jobs and shortage lists in the UK. Ok, How much tax do you pay? how many of their citizens actually work and pay tax? how many public incentives are you allowed to use? You work so hard and pay so much in taxes for their citizens to enjoy so much. Without non citizens, their country will be crawling, that's why they are sad about the Brexit. Like I said, I am cool with their laws, but its too tough. the other countries that are lenient, do they have two heads?

Geetrix:
The country is not by force nau. Shebi, they didn't force you or me to go there, and if we're not happy, we can leave.
That's why we sign contracts, etc...
The one they are doing in Nigeria, is it any better? Just saying, we don't really have a say in the matter and that's just the way things are.

Personally, i never had money for post-graduate studies and if my intention was to go and get a job, i would research very well. But most Nigerians know, but just go with faith! But Faith is more of a Nigerian thing in believing Faith will sort out our problems....Faith can work, but me i am a doubting Thomas and will over research before jumping into the ocean to hunt for Fish

I will reiterate the bolded just incase you missed it!

Just because MTN is expensive doesn't mean users cannot complain about it or dissuade people from using it. You are in the UK and you are currently enjoying the benefits of people's feedback before you purchase stuff, so please allow other people enjoy feedback of people that have schooled there! You say a lot of people know about the impossibility of working in the UK, well, my brother, I did not and would have appreciated being told, that way, I would have invested the nearly 8 Mill in my beauty business in Nigeria (my mate that invested less is now a celeb make-up artist).

Whatever the UK wants to do is solely their business, but it doesn't stop me from enlightening unsuspecting students about the perils that come after studies.

Cheers boss.

Geetrix:
Well, education is a business there....Private universities cost more than Public in Nigeria...it's your choice!. Tuition is free in Gemany. The same tuition is 4-5x more expensive in the USA. What i mean is that, they offered you education, not employment. The employment dream is most people's own expectations...But having the education only puts you in the competitive employment market!

I think they only owe that to their citizens and EU citizens, then when there are still job openings after nobody takes up the role for 2-3 months, then we come in. However, i heard the jobs are actually there, but the problem is the visa!

Uncle calm down! I am creating awareness for people that intend to work after paying such ludicrous amount in the UK.

I had no idea what was involved when I was going to the UK, if someone had told me, I would have sowed a seed in their lives to thank them! Everyone is at liberty to start a business, however, whether or not the business will be patronised is a different matter. Yes, they offered education, but you sef, when you go to market, wont you will ask for jara on top? I did not do education to sit down in my father's house, to count ceilings, I did it for a job!

Check this: if UK Unis put up a disclaimer that international students have a 1% chance of working, would they see any international student? (other than those Chinese guys, who are the real owners of blood money after the Arab guys )

Look, I personally reaped from studying in the UK, I got the most amazing man and I have a degree got me a job as soon as I returned and can get me a PhD into any school in the world with a scholarship sef. I am only worried about the people that probably borrowed that tuition, hoping to get jobs to pay it back.

Also, saying that they owe jobs to their citizens is funny, their citizens are mostly underqualified for lots of jobs thats why their are huge numbers of unmanned jobs and shortage lists in the UK. Ok, How much tax do you pay? how many of their citizens actually work and pay tax? how many public incentives are you allowed to use? You work so hard and pay so much in taxes for their citizens to enjoy so much. Without non citizens, their country will be crawling, that's why they are sad about the Brexit. Like I said, I am cool with their laws, but its too tough. the other countries that are lenient, do they have two heads?

mimimonroe:
My husband's timeline

27/07/17 - Online application (submitted and fully paid)
1/08/17 - Biometrics appointment at TLS Ikeja
10/08/17 - Supporting documents posted from Manchester
11/08/17 - Supporting documents received by home-office
18/10/17 - Supporting documents returned in UK by home-office
23/10/17 - Application Assessed email from TLScontact
24/10/17 - Application Ready for Collection email from TLScontact
24/10/17 - Passport collected visa refused, reason for refusal wrong English test taken

Congrats dear! This three-month wait is crazy. please pick uncle up from the airport o, he has tried!
Take 2!

11/11/17 - Online application (submitted and fully paid)
21/11/17 - Biometrics appointment at TLS Ikeja
25/11/17 - Supporting documents posted from Manchester
27/11/17 - Supporting documents received by home-office
21/02/18 - emailed UKVI in the morning requesting an update cos it's 64 working days since biometrics. They replied in the evening that they had made a decision.
/02/18 - Supporting documents returned in UK by home-office
22/02/18 - Emailed TLSContact in the morning for update about passport
22/02/18 - Application Assessed email from TLScontact
22/02/18 - Application Ready for Collection email from TLScontact
23/02/18 - Passport collected visa issued from 14 Feb 2018

Thanks to all in this group. Good-luck to all awaiting
Mimi

Congrats dear

Geetrix:
Abey, the UK is a small country and everyone from the 3rd world that can't make America want to come here! Are they plucking the job from trees?! That's why their tax na die! E no easy to be champion....look at the size of the country and you'll understand why it's difficult

Yeah of course, I support their immigration laws. Imagine if the laws were relaxed, we would have very bad Nigerians there, just like Italy. My point, however, is to not steal from poor people. The pounds is 500 times higher than the naira, why then should you charge us and exorbitant amount for tuition and then not give us an avenue to make it back? Worse still, they hardly give scholarships. We would even appreciate it if they can give us just one year post study visa to work and then leave afterwards, so that we can at least return to Nigeria and boast of one year international work experience.

Guys, I need your opinions please!

My 22 year old sister is thinking of changing careers to nursing. She studied international relations and has about a 3.0/4.0 gpa. Now she feels she lost out on a passion by reading an arts course due to fear of maths. So the problem is, she wants to study nursing but did not learn Chem, and Physics in Secondary School.

Will this stop her from switching to a Nursing career in the US? Any suggestions/advice will be deeply appreciated.

Geetrix:
a few people get jobs. The country is very competitive that's why, and as such appears to be exploitative. Its because of its high competitiveness. Things might improve after Brexit, when the EU citizens are at par with non-EU

Only doctors gets jobs, and these doctors must have work experience. What we are talking about is the ability for graduates to get jobs without expertise.

You are working in the UK because you are in the med field and have gathered work experience to label you an expert but Did you school in the UK? That’s the point. Our grievance is because we spend so much on the tuition and then don’t get anything in return.

salford1:
I had two British Nigerian flatmates back in Uni. One left Nigeria when he was two and never been back since then. He was 21 when I met him. The only thing Nigerian about him was his last name. He hated it when I call him naija man. The other was 25 years old and only been to naija once when he was 10, he loved naija so much and loved it when I call him my naija bro. We became good friends even till now. Two people with different personalities.

My dear don’t blame him. If you were opportune too, not sure you will want to claim a country where animals are wealthier than humans!

Bifrost:
But I thought the UK has relaxed it's laws with international students beginning this January with opportunities to stay back after graduation?

only those who attend Ivy league schools, after which you are given just 4 more months.. (to do what with? Care jobs or Retail?). The problem isn't the post study time given, but the fact that you can only work in the UK if a company will sponsor you AND 80% OF COMPANIES WILL NOT SPONSOR YOU!

claremont:
In my opinion, I think there are good and bad people in all cultures regardless of race. I think we should cultivate the habit of looking beyond the race, and actually getting to know who the person beneath the skin is. I agree that there are cultural challenges in dating outside the comfort zone we were all born and raised in, but life would be boring to us all if we do not try to understand the culture of people different from us. In my own experience, I have dated ladies from a wide array of cultures, and my current girlfriend is Kenyan. However, my experience with Naija women has left a permanent bad taste in my mouth. If I start writing stories of what the Naija ladies I know did to their husbands who worked his socks off to bring them to the UK, the stories will fill a book.

Please write o, I like gist!

Inkredible:
I brought this issue up because the thing don dey bother me.

So there is this "Emma Watson" looking girl in our office.

Today, I manage say "hi", and she nor even respond.

Maybe she is shy. How can she not be shy to talk to the only "brother" in the whole institution.

My mind tell me say she go come ask for my number soon.

You sha like trouble . Common knowledge is "don't toast them!", if not she will just think you want her for her papers. Of course you can say hi, but date or dinners or chills, let her come to you because that is the only way you will enjoy them.

NosoChic:
All these examples you're giving. At the end of the day, it really falls down to the individual.

I know so many African men who went back home to marry their wives. When some of the women arrived and saw that the system here supports women- they stopped tolerating some of the things they were just managing before from their husbands oh.

In typical African fashion, the husband say their eyes don tear -women wanted a divorce. A particular couple, the man kept on hanging on as the woman was pregnant -only for her to put to bed and we saw a black-asian baby. LOL!

E gbami!!!

saouri:
Dear All,

It is with a deep sense of responsibility and awareness I am writing you this article today.

For years we have been going to schools in the UK and other parts of the EU. In the past, up to around 2009/2010, we used to get opportunities to stay back in the UK in particular and get job opportunities but in the last 7 to 8 years this has not been the case.
Now as soon as you graduate from your university, you are expected to get out of the UK.

Please bear in mind that as international students, you PAY MORE to get the same education as your UK and EU counterparts but you DO NOT get the same employment opportunities.
The UK will rather employ someone from the EU (or has an EU country passport) who cannot speak even 4.0 IELTS level of english and 4 months working experience, than employ you who has 5 to 7 years working experience with a 7.5 to 8.5IELTS level of english.
They know that the situation in Nigeria is getting worse by the day with the joke that we have as leaders, especially in the aspect of employment.
Some people will say be innovative, be an entrepreneur; my people, please do not allow motivational speakers deceive you. Entrepreneurship is difficult. It is not as glamorous as instagram makes it look. Also, entrepreneurship is NOT for everybody. Many people need real jobs!
Please ask yourself the following;
- Why are you really going to school in the UK?
- Why are you paying higher amounts of money to get an education which does not give you the same employment opportunities as your counterparts?
- Is marrying a UK/EU citizen because of papers worth it?
- Is it really worth it to stay back in the UK illegally?
- Why are you making the UK richer by driving up the value of the pound against the Naira by paying schools fees and visa fees in pounds?
- Why can’t those schools have accounts in Nigeria and you pay all the necessary fees in Naira?

Once upon a time the Naira was more valuable than the pound. My people, Think!!!
Nigerians are excluded from so many life changing opportunities for African youth such as the ALL BAR NONE scholarship, the DFID scholarships, the Barclays Rising Eagles programme (and Barclays has a branch in Lagos) etc.

I totally understand your need to migrate from the horrible economic and employment situation but I would advise you all to look at countries that use the point-based system and actually value your education or work experience in their country.

As a Nigerian, you cannot receive money in your Naira account through PAYPAL but you are encouraged to spend/buy using the same PAYPAL. If you can sell on Ebay, you can make money from home by selling things to people all over the world. We need a wakeup call.

Just so you know, I have personal experience living and working in the UK. To date, it has not given me any employment anywhere.

Even if you have parents that were legally British, because you were not born there in the UK, the Home office is not just going to hand you nationality. No. My country people please understand the UK DOES NOT WANT YOU...

I hope that this write up can dissuade many of you to look away from the UK or the EU.
Leave them alone.

God bless you immensely. I have been looking for how to create awareness on this issue.

If I had known that it was like that in the UK I wouldn't have bothered going there! People need to be aware that UK should not be an option. Its bewildering (and quite unfair) to make Nigerians pay so much money with little to no benefits in return. I was lucky to have gotten a job as soon as I got back to Nigeria, but what about the other over 30 school mates that were in my school that are jobless in Nigeria with no job to give back to their families for the money spent? One day, I went for a bank job interview, and I saw a lady that studied MPH in my UK University, she finished a year before me, which simply means she had been jobless for a year plus. I was so heartbroken seeing how the UK certificate had not impacted her in any way.

During my studies, I applied to over 100 IT jobs, I knew I was over qualified for some sef, but they turned me down the moment they found out that I was going to need sponsorship (even with the IT shortage)- me, that built their economy with my outrageous tuition! One time, one of the international officers in my school even confided in me that the Indians had blacklisted UK Universities due to the inability to remain in the UK after the amount of money spent, she wondered when we Nigerians would get sense and do the same.

I am always so happy when I see the UK threads reducing in popularity because less Nigerians are going there, rather, I am happy that the Canada, US and Australia threads growing with Nigerian youths that want a better life. UK is so so so not worth it!

Geetrix:
Seal and his wife, also divorced

Not all white women are bad, same way not all black British women are bad. The only thing is to be careful that you aren’t a meal ticket and to be a responsible man- Why on earth should you cheat on a woman you claim you love?!

Also, if you love a woman, helping her cook and clean wouldn’t be hard- this is where Nigerian women differ from white women, we know how to do house girl work sotey the Nigerian husband would forget that women are the ones that are meant to be pampered!

Geetrix:
So sad, i think oyinbo ( abroad born ) blacks look down on their African race inhabitants

Its when you're talking, they won't even understand you....the proper oyinbo go understand, but them, they be looking at you somehow....so disppointing

Swear down! One of my school children, first time I met her, I saw her surname and was excited that she was Yoruba (fellow Nigerian in a 90% white uni),

I said “wow! Kemi Bode, you are Nigerian!”
She said, “No, I’m Cynthia, I am British!”..
I confuse.
I pointed out her surname
She then said, “Oh, yeah, my dad and mum are Nigerians”..

I almost fell down laughing . I don’t blame her for disowning us sha!

Funny, She was the only nice British Nigerian, the other ones didn’t even bother to mingle. We, the akpurukas, gave them space.

Dorisdili:
Hello house, please I have bsc geology and want to further with either msc geology, msc environmental science or msc geotechnology. Please anyone that can help me with cheap uk schools for international students offering any of these courses. Been surfing the net seriously not really seen a cheap university. Your help will be highly appreciated. Thanks

For those geo courses, look towards scotland (Aberdeen) side. As for cheap Universities, sorry my dear, you are checking the wrong country. The cheapest school (Derby) is 5 million for tuition alone and I highly doubt it offers a geo course.

Geetrix:
That mumu button go scarce oh....Personally, i think British people are very proud and i don't mean that in a bad way. It's just the way eg....SW looks down on hausas as illiterates! In my experience, i think, Brits generally have a superiority complex, so will probably need to be a big time person to attract or impress a Brit...Very handsome, great personality or be a footballer rich! or celebrity...Otherwise, maybe you are the one who will be the mumu and profess your undying love, probably because of visa and end up being the 'Houseboy". I think, other Europeans, except for Germans and maybe French, are less proud and more likely to date you or fall in love easily, Indian or Pakistani....those ones will not even look at you, as their family will easily frown on you as a black person. The family usually arrange marriages, no matter how much they might like or love you.

But, what do i know, i've only been here 1 year! I had a 1 night with a 37yr old Romanian divorcee and i think she felt she was doing me a favour. I wasn't into it, she was just disturbing me and i was trying to be polite! And the blacks i try to hook up with on Tinder and other dating websites are extremely proud, even more so than whites.

So, if you no fine, no money, and not a celeb. You might save yourself headache and get a wife in Nigeria who will love you like Superman for bringing her out of Africa

British Nigerian/Nigerian British girls are something else! I keep hearing complaints about them. I had a Nigerian friend that just kept dodging all the British born Nigerian girls cos he said he didn't have energy for their drama. As much as English girls are quite materialistic and lazy (my hubby told me this one), I don't think the British born ones are any better. Na hear say o, nobody should come and beat me!

As for why a lot of men prefer to marry Nigerian born women, I think its pretty obvious. Other than the fact that there will not be culture differences (which can be extremely stressful to overcome, trust me), a Nigerian born will be humble and grateful to the husband for the move abroad. At least for one year, she will pamper and cater to the man. Also, if she is not aware that the UK Laws favour women, she will cope will a cheating/abusive man. Finally, Nigerian born women have seen a lot of suffering, they will happily work to support the family rather than leave the man to work alone, or happily stay back home and watch the kids.

I am not generalising ooo!

NosoChic:
Hmmm. ...I usually don't like generalisations as there are good and bad people in every race. But to a large extent, our cultural differences can be a divide.
The one of your mother becomes my mother and she may have to call her Mama/Mum. As simple as it may sound,not all will understand it. So if you jam person wey go dey call your mama by her first name. No vex!

Marriage to them may also not be stick in there till it works- once she's not happy she'll not fake it oh.There is no role of a woman oh, so you should dust up your domestic skills!

There have a good attraction to us as we sabi work. We are also very ambitious and it may just be fulfilling a fantasy to some.

That said, if you meet someone whose head is very calm, hardworking, well exposed,won't mind coming to Africa to stay...and you genuinely are in love with the person please go ahead.

It's a bit better for we African women in biracial marriages although hubby complains I can be LOUD around my 9ja peps.

Your last sentence though!

My hubby keeps asking how me and my Nigerian friends hear ourselves when we are discussing, apparently we yell aggressively at each other

5454Darese:
Correct ur English . Anyways it's Wat I did some time ago. Am not forcing anyone to do the same.

Some time ago wasn't 2018 where they will actually investigate the lies!

Wasn't it in 2016 that they stopped internal visa extensions? Now, they ask people to leave the country to apply for a visa extension. If he takes 2 months off for the training or job, wouldn't he need 2 more months to finish his course? how will he apply for the extra months if he doesn't leave the UK and apply with proof of exit and entry on his passport, matching the fact that he apparently left to take care of the grandad?

Please, let's reduce fraudulent acts please.

Tanamon:
Dont you think telling the university will put me on the spotlight and jeopardise my chances?............Can't I run the stuff codedly with the help of a course-mate who might be giving me updates on happenings for the duration of my absence?

thanks

I dont even think you should go for the training in the first place, talkless of informing your university or lying that you grandad needs care.

The highest amount of break during a master's is 3 weeks. so you can't even do the training during your break. (Remember that its only during your breaks you are allowed to work more than 20 hours). Ask the helper whether the 6-weeks training can be during your dissertation time, then rush and finish your dissy. Because, if you inform the school that you want to go for a work training, they will happily withdraw their study sponsorship, since its obvious you prefer a work sponsorship. If you lie to your school and don't leave the UK to Nigeria, you will have to explain to the UKVI why you need an extension to finish the course that you were meant to finish 2 months earlier, and you will need to show them proof of your flight out of the UK.

And if you stop attending lectures, lol, this might be the worst. One time that I supposedly missed a class, I know how i was drilled to explain my whereabouts at Student Affairs. The man was ready to report me to the Home Office sef, even with pleas that I couldn't have missed the class, seeing as I was the classrep. It wasn't until I remembered that it was an online class that they freed me- I almost cried that day.

So, think well.

readynow:
please am i attaching a passport photo to the application form if yes am i going to staple it on the form or just include it to the application

also for the self address envelope how many envelope can i send

will appreciate

Just put the photo in the pile of documents. And you need just one Envelope that can carry all your original documents.