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Zoharariel:Pls pardon my rebellious Mistress, self-delusion have always been the bulk of their audacious mendacity. Russia is a grandmaster of the geopolitikal game, and Erdogan is just realising it. As am typing now, Turkey is still searching for market for their ''caveat emptor'' goods, while various operators in its tourist sector are anguishly counting their customers and losses. And as if that is not enough, all of Turkey's financial and human resources committed to its interest in Syria, has so far, proved to be wasted efforts, with goals untenable. I knew Erdogan would cave in sooner than later, especially when in April, they suddenly ''found'' and ''arrested'' the pilot killer, after four months, in a certain ''hotel'' in Ankara... Every sensible person back then could see that they were shamefully trying to appease and appeal to the Kremlin, and now that it is fully out, i believe people like us have been proven right.Nevertheless, a lot of differences still exist between the two nations as far as Syria is concerned, and i wonder what sort of compromise and detente they are expecting from the Russians, following this new development. Maybe they have gotten wind of the theory that the US is planning to split Syria and create a kurdistan in that part of it, which in no doubt, is the last thing Turkey ever wanted to happen, as it would completely destroy all of Erdogan's dream of a sunni state-like domino in the mideast. Well, we can only wait and hope for the better, because i don't see Russia ceding any of its interst in Syria to Turkey. Perhaps Turkey is only throwing in the trowel now for the sake of its economy, and if that is the case, then i must say, its a wise thing to do. Goodluck to them and peace to the God forsaken and Satan rejected MidEast. |
God is good. At last, peace can reign between the two. But why form strongman when you have more to lose from the faceoff? Anyway, its good that they have vrealized themselves now. You dont easily find market substitutes for 3 million tourists and tons of banned agricultural products. The reality speaks for itself. |
How did Britain stop Russian occupation of Crimea, which belong to Russia today, and how did Turkey grounded Russian panes? ![]() |
The EU has entered a phase of no return. This is what happens when leaders who called themselves democrats, yet becomes subservients and willing puppets for someone else to use, as against the interest of their own people. When the German minister of foreign affairs labelled NATO's activities in the East as "warmongering", with Merkel and Hollande rushing to make an emergency trip to Russia in respect of that, all goes to show that, Europe as a union, has been working against its own interest for long now, and that the madness of their folly is increasingly becoming clearer and dangerous. Farage once said that the EU is gradually becoming like Hitler' Germany; and it becomes. Even clearer that a lot of folks are waking up to this reality when you consider that, in the just concluded Brexit vote, one British Army Commander confessed that, his entire batallion of soldiers that went to the polls to vote, all said that they cannot be use to fight American wars and realise American interest against their own national and personal interests. And so, all of them went and voted for the "leave" side. And to undercore the importance of their seriousness, they all went with their own ink-pen, because they felt that since the vote is done by pencil, theirs could be changed or simply erased. So they voted with their own inks. You can imagine that. The truth now is; if the EU fails to restructured in line with realities instead of working as willing tools and puppets, the bloc will end up like the Soviet Union that failed to see reality in place of fiction. The EU is already on that pact. |
marvelous000:For wia. Na true you talk jare.The kine dikishionary when we get for warri na "warford" 306. naim make our english dey some how o. ![]() |
Damn this spambots. I just don't understand it this days. Its like repetition of certain words do attract the anti spambot, otherwise, i see no reason why i keep getting banned without even violating any rule. Wield. |
Zoharariel:He that have an ear, let him hear what the spirit sayeth through the mouth of the Prophet... When people all over the world talked about America, you will hear some Americans like my rebellious wife, telling you that people hate America because they are jealous of its wealth and freedom, but they are always wrong, and i don't blame them, because many of these innocent people don't travel out that much, nor study alternative news and information sources, and as such, are not conversant with the evils and mayhem their government is doing abroad in their names. America's horror interventionism and tnppling of governments abroad since 1953 till date, is the major reason why America is so hated all over the world, and trying to impose its will and lifestyle on the rest of mankind, further exercabated the whole level of that hatred. Its even on record that after when Nigeria and Ghana criminalized homosexualism, the likes of Cameron and some US officials threatens to suspend certain levels of aids, such as in HIV, and other support to Ghana and of course, we saw that intent against Nigeria when they wickedly refuse to help with the Ebola trial vaccine, simply for refusing to officially copy their lifestyle, instead, choosing to mentain the status quo by nature, as against western satanic aberration of ''democratic right.'' (Little wonder you are now officially licenced to have ''sexual relations'' with animals in Canada, just as it is your right to walk up and down and engage in normal activities while completely unclad, in Australia.) and when you dare speak out, some kids will tag you as being jealous. (Very pathetic.) These are some of the ''virtues'' the US-led west want the rest of the world to imbibe in the name of rights, forgeting why there is need for a government and blatantly negating the multipolar nature of the world in culture, religion, economic, and socio-political history and ideological differences among the nations and people thereof. It wasn't a child's play that the US was voted and is today seen as the Greatest Threat to World Peace. Since man is always Unique and mentally alert to its immediate environment and survival instinct, the resistance (such as the likes from Russia and China) will continue to gain momemtum, and every rational, mentally stabled and critical thinker men like us , will continue to stand up against this hordes of hell that are matching. For we can do nothing but for the truth, and the truth is: THE UNITED STATE Government and its Satan Controlled Foreign Policy that centred on Global Hegemony, is THE ONLY TERRORIST WE HAVE IN THE WORLD THAT THREATENS THE GLOBAL PEACEFUL ORDER. |
Lucasbalo:Dear Lucasbalo, possessor of a saving basket full of money; it is you i great. I know how you love America, and you have every reason to love it. By now you ought to have known the kind of person i am by my postulations. I am not a jingoist or a warmongering and trigger drunk kid like some of the brethren we have down here. I deal on facts and logical reasoning, and as a human, i may also make mistakes. I believe above all things, Spiritualism, pertaining to global events and the ordering of human course of action and inaction by the powers that be, and this much has informed my thematic posture in views as it relates to the likes of Russia, China, Isreal, and the US. These nations (whether we like it or not) are the time-piece that would dictate the winding up of the Gentile dispensation. I know you may not understand, and you cannot be blamed for that. We all have our own pacts set out for us according to the paths we have chosen. But be it know to thee, O Lucasbalo, that the United States has been programmed to be the LAST SUPERPOWER on earth, and its fate (to come from across the great waters) have been Sealed. Please study more on this issues and ask questions about them. This is a passionate appeal coming from a very concerned friend. Just do your bit on researching on the above. It won't take a dime from you if you do. Time is very short. Now, speaking as an analyst, whenever you see me engaging some folks here in matters relating to Russia and The US, it wasn't becos i hate the US as a nation: No, For that would be very inhuman of me, becos the US as a nation constitute of at least, 300 million people, most of which are just plain innocents, and don't even know the horrors of their government. But i hate the US as a government for the same reasons that are already known to you. If the US was voted as the greatest threat to world peace, then you can understand why the increasing rife in resentment. US military interventionism has brought much destruction to many parts of the world, and when you see people chanting for the likes of Russia and China resisting the US here and there, its not becos they also don't have their own problems, nor that life in Russia or China is the best, far from it; but its simply becos people are fed up or getting fed up already. And you know that to be the truth. The US was, and is, since 1990, the only Superpower around. But when that superpower tells you he is afraid of a particular threat, then know he is talking reality. Russia is the only country that can exterminate the US, and vise versa. Yet, this is a fact which the various delusionist we have down here don't want you to believe, even when they knew quite well that, THERE CAN NEVER BE A CONVENTIONAL WAR BETWEEN THE TWO. And this is the primary fallacy, inter alia, why i am always ready to challenge their diabolic blindman naratives, becos these trolls like the madmen we have as leaders, are poised in pushing the two, and consequently the rest of mankind into extermination suicide mission of no return. Nothing more, nothing less. Live in peace. God bless. |
ValerianSteel:Now, that is how you know a kid when he types. You can't even make out his rhyme when he cries.. But for the kid you are, help is always the best. So, pls, Mention one single technology known to the US that is not known to Russia. Pls take some pills to help keep you awake as you surf through your computer. Happy digging, and God bless. |
scully95:@ the Bolded, scully, gaddamit. Just gaddamit! ![]() A working institutions where the color of your skin does determine your ability to attain justice in certain circumstances. An outstanding institutions under which the likes of Michael Brown could be murdered in cold blood, and the white police officer was deemed not triable under the institution. The same best working institution under which when a similar case of a whiteman was killed, then the policer officer was deemed fit to stand trial. An institution serving as a custodian of the law where racial profiling is the other of the day in law enforcement duties. An institution under which you are most likely to be stopped and checked if you are black. A very good law abiding and human rights obeying functional institution that manhandles, choke, and kills at the slightest provocation, even when the situation is far more avoidable. A country ruled by law with an institution enforcing that law, and killed about 200 blacks (most of which were unarmed and for the slightest cause) in 2015 alone, more than any other race, despite making just about 13% of the population. How wonderful are such institutions. You have the wonderfully working institution wherein a Presidential candidate can win most of the popular votes and still end up losing the election, yet it is called ''a democrasy'' - in other words, the government of the minority, by the minority, and for the minority. What an aberration. When a man is pointing at the moth in another man's eye, he too must not forget his own. And the above are just a tip of the iceberg. The truth is treason in the empire of lies and delusion. |
Lonehenge:Yes on the above, but again, wrong on the bolded. Contrary to what many people would want to believe, Russian inventors (both home and abroad) and their revolutionary innovations has constributed generously to the global scientific thought, helping us to enjoy the much of what the civilized world got to offer today. From the invention of Catapillar tracks/tracks assembling in 1837, which gave the greenlight for the production of tractors and tanks globally, then to the invention of Electrically-powered railway wagons, Videotape recorder, radio, Helicopter, Solar Cell, Transformer, Television, Petrol cracking, Synthetic rubber, Grain harvester, and so on, are some of Russian contributions to the global technological prowess. It is only a russophobe that would deny Russia its place in the history of technology. I think our conclusion is both the same - Political influence is one of the primary reasons why the US is a superpower. It has the ability to influence Global governments/parliamentsCorrect. Firstly, It seems you think that US alliance rests on NATO. This is false. Many Non Nato countries for example Australia, Japan, New Zealand, South Korea, contributed troops to the Iraq War.Firstly, i wasn't alluding that NATO is the only sphere of US political influence. I only cited the bloc as part of that US influential credibility, and the fear factor vis the percieved Russian threat. Like i said earlier, the US Power of influence is never in doubt, and its ability to build up alliance quickly, is second to none. But the fact remains that, NATO as a bloc makes it much more easier for the US to weild that influence, and also, there is a limit to that level of that influence. Secondly. My brother, some countries ''feign'' alliances, most especially when its a military one. For instance, what would a country like Montenegro gain or contribute, in purely military sense, if it joins NATO, if not for some of the largees or prestige that it believe might follow NATO's structural deployment, which of course is mostly constituted by US components? This is just an exaggeration though. The fact here is that, a nation may join an alliance not because of the primary interest of that alliance, but because of a certain objective which is totally different or quite contrary to the primary objective of that alliance. When this is the case, that country has feigned its alliance motive. Thirdly. No. Alliances are not strictly limited to military basics alone. We have economic alliances as well, but the fact is that, both forms of alliances are interdependent. Economic alliance is a precursor to a military one, and vice versa. The issue of Greece and Hungary you mentioned further corroborated my point on feigned alliance, though in very minimal terms. They have good relations with Russia but becos they must play along, they joined in the sanctions; but the fact that now they are on the verge of rebelling against the EU and the US, courtsey of the Russian counter measures, underlined the fact that there is a limit to the level of US political influence, and also that nations have objectives that basically runs contrary to alliance stated objectives. And when you consider that these two nations are members of NATO, then you can understand this reality better. If they are rebelling now just becos of market impacts, i wonder how NATO's Article 5 can compare them to go and engage in Nuclear war with the same nation. The reality speaks for itself. As Missy has mentioned, the existence of institutions does not mean that they function.Missy's logic (citing Kenedy's killing) lonly appease to kids, and you would do well to stay away from them What makes she think that institutions in Russia doesn't functions, but those in the US functions, and are the ones only democratic and legal? :-)Lets live that for now. Which legal situation has arisen with Putin that he blatantly overuled? Insinuations and facts differs, sir. So, my brother, Lets not put the cart before the horse. God bless |
Missy89:You see yourself? The last time i rescued you from Langley since your defection, and after we paid a visit to the zoharariel spiritual cleansing centre at Ijebu, i thought you have been completely delivered, but alas, i was wrong. You posting this trash is evidence enough that you are properly enveloped in the Frenzy of western crazy media propaganda. First, it was your crazed western medias who cannot sell their news or papers at the stands without Putin, that actually went on the frenzy and made a crazy issue off nothing. What your likes failed to realize was that all economic, institutional and social activities were going on well in Russia when Putin went on his sabbatical leave to Nibiru to commune with Karl El, the 26th alien descendant of the sons of Rus. The world didnt stop in Russia, and life was bubbling all across the different 11 time zones, while your masters ministries of truth were busy formulating theories of how Putin had been assassinated, overthrown by a coup, blah blah blah. And when he finally reemerged from Nibiru, some of them having nothing else to say, suddenly started to point out that ''Putin had been doubled'' I almost laugh my head off back then. Now, your logic on the issue of sudden death of a leader and the aftermat thereof, is very flawed while using it to determine strong institutions. First, you failed to acknowledge factors like what may have cause the death, how did the ordinary citizenries view the leader, etc. But what you want to believe is that, if for example it was clearly established as at that time that Kennedy was assassinated by a foreign government, especially when it was during the coldest part of the Cold War era, the yankees simply would have taken a bow and move forward with their lives, while Moscow who no doubt was the apparrent criminal would be taking a nice walk in Siberia, abi? If that is the logic behind strong institutions, then i wonder why America is a nation at the first place. Contrary to what you want to believe, the sudden death of a leader will always put a nation in a full blown or semi crisis situation, depending on the nature of death and the level of political perception of the people. When Stalin died, life went on for ordinary Russians, except for the dark men behind the scene gunning for the post. Many simply do not have much love for the man. But it took just the assassination of an Austrian crown prince to cause a global war, one in which nations with strong institutions were dragged in and fought. Another thing you fail to realize is that, the ideology and tenets governing of and in gauging and determining the strenght of institutions, varies from place to place in accordance with stated principles and traditional consciousness of a nation. Until you can tell me how laws are ruling the US without men, and how men are ruling Russia without laws, i will rest on my oars. ![]() Remain bless. |
cstr9:Apart from the economic perspective, the US is only ahead of Russia in Numerics. The rest of what you said is true, but how can they work together seeing the United States is basically at war with the rest of the world? Just wondering. |
cstr9:Non military keh. I don't need to swim in the gutter of delusional bias victim with you, dear brother. So, i will just leave you with only a hint. Ever held of Zil, Kalmaz, Ural, etc. Russian civilian tech and equipments are popular as much as their military ones, they are cheap, rugged and requires little education to operate. The fact that you don't see Russian trucks and bulldozers in use in the west, doesn't mean or deny their capability and competitiveness, since you don't see their tanks or armoured vehicles there either. Kalmaz (the manufacturers of Kalmaz military trucks) also manufactured about 40-50 thousand civilian trucks yearly, with about 14% of them exported. Just go to Cuba, and you will discover you are surrounded by Russian stuffs, from cars to lorries, tractors, oil derricks, etc. It is believed that 80% of the Cuban economy is tied to the Russian export market. Also, formal states of the USSR and in Africa with roughly over a hundred million population, are some readily available market for Russian civilian equipments. The Russian civilian aircraft market is just another emerging factor, with the production of the latest Sukhoi 100 passenger jet, for which customers are already queueing up for supply. The US did not create the sanction war for nothing. It was meant to stiffle a resurgent Russia in both military and technological terms. And that is a fact. Now, talking about a bigger power fighting a lesser power, pls don't kid your self: the day the US will engage Russia in open war, that would be the end of much part of the earth's population. Don't think you would be watching Hollywood movie where one man call rambo kills off a full country. The fear of Russia is the only reason why your oga still have NATO around. And thats a fact, my brother.Talking about jets and rockets, are you kiddin me? Don't let me get angry and call Serbia back to the party of death in the air.... you better allow sleeping dogs lie so that flying coffins and bathroom basens won't be further exposed for what they are... God bless you... |
Lonehenge:Wow! Thanks for your inputs. I believe that when we are talking about technology, you understand that there are different areas of specialization and various components of craftmanship that embodies the term ''technology''? That South Korea excels in robotics and Japan in rail technology than Russia, so implies that Russia doesn't stack up well in technology, eh? This i must say, is plain ignorance, and a dozage of the popular misconception prevailing in the west. Russia's technological credibility is overwhelmingly entrenched in areas such as in Eletrical Engineering, Ship Building, Aerospace, Weaponry, Space Technology, Communications, IT, Nuclear technology, etc. The only difference between Russia and the likes of those nations you mentioned, is the issue of PR. The west far excelled Russia in PR vis Marketability, and the past history and economic policies of the Soviet Union didn't help matters, and its still haunting; though that is gradually changing. Even the United States you mentioned still relies on Russia's tech to launch into space. My brother, this is reality, not fiction. The misplaced priority regarding Russia's technological prowess is mostly associated with kids who measured technological supremacy by the levels of smart phones and exaltic cars they see everyday, and knows from whence it came. But those who knows the truth about the Soviet past and the present day Russia, will know the sum of the matter. The US is light million years ahead of Russia where it comes to political influence. This gives it tremendous ability to make global impact. If you study international law, you would realize that the tenets are mostly based on issues relating to US interest.Yes. The US weilds much more political influence far ahead of Russia, and this was mostly made possible following the implosion of the Soviet Union. But you are not completely correct in asserting that the tenets of international law are mostly based on the interests of the US. Rather, they are ''affected'' by the paradigm of US interest. There were norms, and still, laws that governs the relationship of states in the international order prior to 1990 and thereafter. The implosion of the Soviet Union rent in tatters the written and unwritten laws of Checks and Balance among the power players, and from thence urshered in an era of unchallenged US power and oversight in the pursue of its core interest. Otherwise, the basic tenets of IT law was never based on the core interest of the US, but rather became affected by it after the Cold War. you ignore the tremendous amount of alliance that the US can build up quickly in a short time frame. How many countries in the world can get other countries to go to war on their behalf - from Iraq to Afghanistan.Like i said, the political influence of the US is never in doubt, but one real overlooked fact is that, such influence is overwhelmingly tied to the one same factor - the US economy. Some of these nations you see today feigning alliance with the US, are in because of the money. They hate the US as much as a terrorist do. I always laugh at the Hollywood pipe-like dream of a 28 member block destroying Russia , when war breaks out, its then people will realize how deeply hateful and resentful some of this nations are towards one another. Of course, they will continue to play along with their master for the time being, and lets hope that day never comes. Besides, US Influence has its limit per the target nation concerned. The US can influence much of NATO in its war against hapless states like Iraq, Afghan, Libya, etc, but when it comes to players like Russia or China, i doubt if much of them will walk that road with the US. The most they can do, they have done it, and one can only laugh at the angry response and frustration coming from some of them now, following the impact of the Russian counter measures. I wonder how the reaction would be when it comes to the theatre of blood-Nuclear for that matter.I dey laf 3) You ignore the power of institutions. The US's ability to function as a superpower is not dependent on a single person. If Obama leaves the presidency, the US can still project its superpower status because it's public institutions are well established and are stronger. Russia en he leaves the stage?Pls name one governmental/administrative institution in place in the US that is not available in Russia. |
CFCman:You see now? That was the exact situation i was explaining earlier on when i said ''faithless voters.'' Democracy is all about the vote count of every voter, but where the system discourages many voters from turning up at the prescints, the idea is totally defeated. A lot of Americans are yet to realize how the EC works, thats why many are still okay with it. But for the likes of you who knows the nitty gritty of the system, will never be comfortable with it, as long as it goes against the basic principle of Democrasy, which is the Majority. |
CFCman:You have said it all, and the emphasis is 'ALL' voters should have their say. That is the exact essence of any democratic Electoral System, not the backdoor channel. |
CFCman:Exactly! |
Lucasbalo:That is my point. A man who was elected solely by the minority tend to become irresponsive to the wishes of the majority, unlike the man elected by the majority. Yeah, we hope it never happens again, not only for the interest of America, but also for the world at large. |
marvelous000: yeah. They so much want to believe that when Putin talk about 'superpower,' he was talking about military might and technological know-how, they have failed to acknowledge the rest of what was said in that article. One thing i have come to realise among these our brethren at the other end, is that, living in fantasy is best for the sustainance of their various warp beliefs regarding the reality, ditto Russia and the US: and as such, they tend to hang on to any straw and thatch that seem to support their myopic narrative. This is the reason some uninformed folks down here will tell you that Russia is nothing and is not relevant in the scheme of things, yet, the US sees it as the greatest threat to it, and when some shiit does happen globally, the first place Washington calls is the Kremlin. Right from time, the problem with man is the comprehending the TRUTH, and the truth in this case is that, as long as Russia remains on the surface of the Earth, the US can never fully achieve its notion of Unipolarism and exceptionalism, though it be called the superpower; the events in the Ukraine, in Syria, and in the South China sea, are testimonies to that effect. |
Zoharariel: No, it never existed. And yes, a bully never stop till its teeth get kicked out like boy Alinko. ![]() |
violent:Nobody is confuse here, except the likes of your lots with a vague one-sided views who never want to believe in reality. Who was dragging superpower status with the US, aside US anti-Russia/China rhetorics? Has Russia or China at any time told you that they are more of a superpower than the US? Please furnish me with examples. All they ever wanted was respect and recognition for their own national interests and domestic ways vis-a-vis the stark reality of the multipolar global order, as against US notion of exceptionalism and unipolarism. And this is exactly what the lot of us here have been saying. Nukes alone doesn't make you a superpower, and every Diick and Harry knows that. To be a complete Superpower, you need the SP TRIPLETS: The Economy, The technology and the Milltary Might. The 1st is the outstanding one as the rest two derives their potentials and validity from it, even though they are all interdependent. And as the superpower status implies, your Triplets MUST be totally above that of your opponents in terms of sophistication and quality, and the only area in which the US beat the rest, is in the economy. The US Economy is the Chief among the big boys (though China is fast catching up.) and it gives it comperative advantage above the rest. This is the ONLY area in the SP TRIPLET chain that put the US above Russia, and Putin simply stated the obvious- the economic power of the US makes it the SuperPower compare to the rest of the key players; not in the millitary or technological sense of it, as some of you would always want to believe. Aside economics, the US is only a superpower to third world countries, and you can keep that up your sleeves. Remain bless. |
Lucasbalo:Then that is a plus for them. |
blueAgent:Really? Thats another for thought from another angle. |
Lucasbalo:I have answered her. I called the system a sham and undemocratic because it runs contrary to the principles of democracy which is mainly based on Democratic Majority. I was only speaking from a principle point of view, not to ridicule the US per se. If it is working well for them, no problem. But its noteworthy that many voices across the US are now calling for a change in the system. |
Missy89:This, i must say is plain ignorance. The hallmark of democracy is the ''ultimate will of the people,'' and the will of the people rest on the inate notion of the power of Thought and Conscience, the faculty from where individual beliefs and perceptions emanate and are put forward as ''interest'' by means of a formal and informal mode of ''expression'', which in this case, are by elections. It is trite that these individuals interest varies in accordance with the stark disparity embedded in the human power of perception, and thus, democracy has always centred on the ''aggregate and proportional interest'' of the ''majority'' in deriving its legitimacy for the formulation and accomplishment of national ideology. That is why democracy is the government of the people, for the people, and by the people, NOT all of the people, but THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE, because by the power of thought differential, it can never be all of the people. This is what democrasy is all about in any democratic electoral setting - the Government according to the Electoral interest of the Majority, and not of the Minority. Therefore, any electoral system that termed itself a democracy but seek to achieve its legitimacy by means of a Minority, is a sham, a gross departure from the tenets of democracy and a complete bastardization of the meaning of the term. And this is exactly what the American Electoral system is all about. No matter how the likes of Mr. Morgan tries to frame it, the fact remains that the US Electoral College System that makes it possible for a candidate that won the most or popular votes and still lose the election, is not a democracy, and can never be a democratic system of electing leadership, let alone conferring legitimacy on it, because, legitimacy evolves from the sovereign, and the sovereign is the people from which it derives its validity - the ''Democratic Majority''. The undemocratic and unpopular nature of this system is even more pronounced when one realize that in this 21st century, the US is the only nation practicing this gross aberration, and what an aberration it is. And living in this republic means that every voice matters, majorities do not rule and those with the loudest voices do not automatically win. The will of the people means all of the people.NEVER! The will of the people does not mean ALL of the people, and can never be ALL of the people. The proponents of the democratic system quite envisaged that the overall interests of every members of the population differs, and cannot be represented equally at the same time, hence; the will of the overwhelming majority is held as basics for compromise and consensus . Thus, in a democracy, the will of the people is represented by the aggregated and proportional will of the Democratic Majority, not the other way round. Any other way is an aberration. And that is the underlying reality. |
Lucasbalo:Hmm. I have discussed this US electoral college system with some of my American friends in time past, and i discovered that, in the course of the discussion, the only argument most of them could muster is that, the system has been working for years, and as such, there is nothing wrong with it. But they are wrong. There are a lot of idiosyncrasies associated with the system that many people don't even know. For instance, the Electoral college makes it possible for a candidate to clinch the Presidency by winning just eleven states and disregarding the rest of the country. And i want to believe that some of you good Americans are aware that about 3 to 4 times, the Presidential candidate that won the popular vote lost the election? And we should call it ''democratic''? Tufieeh! The underlying fact here is that, by design, the Electoral College system fundamentally undermines the basic principle of one man-one vote denoting undemocratic realities such as: (1)The Electoral College system further distorts the one-person, one-vote principle of democracy because electoral votes are not distributed according to population. Every state gets one electoral vote for each member of its delegation to the House of Representatives (this by itself would be a rough measure of its population) and each state also gets two “bonus” electors representing its two senators. This causes significant overrepresentation of small states in the “College.” In the most extreme case, using 2010 Census figures and the new distribution of House seats based on that census, an individual citizen in Wyoming has more than triple the weight in electoral votes as an individual in California. Yes, you read that right. In fact, it’s closer to quadruple than triple. Can this be a good thing? (2) States with smaller populations have far more representatives per population than states with larger populations. E.g, residents of the three least-populated states -Wyoming, Vermont, and North Dakota - have one congressional representative for every 200,000 people, while those in the three states with the highest population - California, Texas, and New York - have only one congressional member for every 670,000 people. This representational inequality clearly gives citizens from small population states a much stronger voice per citizen than those residing in large states when it comes to electing the president. Is that fair? :-( (3) Forty-eight states allocate all of their Electors to one candidate (Maine and Nebraska use proportional representation). This state-level decision of how to allocate Electors produces the issue of swing-state distortion, where citizens in states that are relatively evenly split between the two parties have far more influence in selecting the president than citizens in states where a majority are clearly voting for one party. Moreover, citizens are often discouraged to vote in presidential elections if they know that the allocation of all of their state’s electors is a foregone conclusion. Campaign activity exemplifies the implications of this all-or-nothing allocation issue and its egregious undermining of the principle of one citizen-one vote. Candidates rarely invest campaign funds in states that aren’t “in play” - i.e., states whose electoral votes are considered to be already won or lost based on large margins of victory in previous elections and on current polling. For example, in the 2008 presidential election, the campaign of then-candidate Barack Obama spent nearly $40 million on advertising in Pennsylvania, a swing state with twenty-one electoral votes, and about $25,000 in Illinois, with an equivalent number of electors. The Obama strategists knew that there was no reason to spend any time courting voters in his home state, Illinois, since he would clearly win the majority of Illinois’s popular votes and all twenty-one of its electoral votes. Republican and third-party supporters in Illinois had no chance of having their voices heard and citizens living in Illinois were being told very clearly that they are much less important than those living in Pennsylvania. You see it? (4) “Faithless” Electors: After all of the undermining of one citizen-one vote that is described above, there is still the issue that the Elector doesn’t actually have to vote for whom they pledged. For example, in 2000, D.C. elector Barbara Lett-Simmons abstained rather than vote for Al Gore as she had pledged. Her feeble protest resulted in silencing the voices of thousands of D.C. residents. If democrasy is the goverment of the MAJORITY, then this system is CERTAINLY anti-democratic, and thats why i called it a sham. Like Cfcman said, it needs a channge. |
NaijaTalkTown:I didn't quite get your post, brother. Anyway, i was only alluding to the propensity of Christian-Muslim conversion rate the author was talking about. Nothing more. |
glacswhite:Your head dey there jare. ![]() |
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