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Foreign AffairsRe: Why Is David Cameron So Silent On The Recapture Of Palmyra From ISIS. by Appleyard(m): 3:07pm On Mar 28, 2016
sirthisthickkal:
[b] i ve said it and i wud to continue to say it, "syria was better off before the west orchestrated a micro war using the opposition goverment as their tools and camouflage". Now it seems their dialobolical plan has boomerang they had more than they had bargain for, millions of syrian refugees who had been displaced due to the casualties of the war are now seeking for asylum desperately from europe and the west, their tools for destruction have gone rogue which have resulted to the emergence of Isis and Isis are bent on destroying the west. We ve seen what happened in france, turkey and brussels...The hunter becomes the hunted. And here comes super russian cleaning their mess. With the migrant issue hitting the EU hard, they are looking for who dump their mess on and turkey had volunteered to be the scape goat by striking a deal with EU. Now things are easing up a bit in syria, assad is now fortified with millatary assistance from russia and more territory have fallen back to the syrian forces. Here comes the west again with super power mentality, pushing to remove assad at all cost and to conduct an election without assad involve while russia is saying" no no no no no we cleaned we what u started and we must also finish it to the end. Assad must stay and he must also participate in the election."


wow i am loving this . [/b] grin
You absolutely killed this. It is only zombies and russophobic midgets that will discredit Russia for the successes the Syrian army is recording currently. Ride on, man. The truth is always treason in the empire of lies.
Foreign AffairsRe: In Syria, Putin Smashes Terrorists Like Kutuzov Smashed Napoleon by Appleyard(m): 2:51pm On Mar 28, 2016
Zoharariel:
While Obama spent 5 years insisting there was no military solution to the Syrian war, my son - Vladimirovich Putin went on to stabilize the legitimate government of Assad.

Now, what do we see Amerika doing? Renewing her campaign of lies & calumny against Russia through the western media machines - peddling propaganda and publishing scurrilous articles - calling Russia's victory in Syria a pyrrhic & hollow victory, while using misinformation to promote every criminal intervention & war waged by Amerika over the past 25years from the bombing of Kosovo & Bosnia, to the Iraq war grin

We know there's no lie that Amerika & her AngloZionist allies will not tell in their effort to defend & promote imperialism, but in the epic struggle between good and evil, good will always prevail.

Picture: Obama be like; I will bring you & Russia down by any means necessary.

Putin be like; you will watch a movie on CNN titled “300 - The Rise of Topol-M & R-36M” and then Amerika will fall grin

Missy89 - Could you tell me Y the man standing in the middle, wearing glasses looked troubled? grin
grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Someone Wants Donald Trump Dead by Appleyard(m): 2:36pm On Mar 28, 2016
Interesting
Foreign AffairsRe: Start Of A New World War by Appleyard(m): 4:20pm On Mar 27, 2016
ValerianSteel:
How can he claim the United States has seen to the overthrow of 50 governments of which all are democracies?That's just too much of a lie.
Of course! Much of those states were democratically elected governments with popular supports. E.g, Guatamela, Brazil, Venezuela, Congo. The US coup machine had been destroying democracies since 1953.



Let me explain the above.China is not a democracy,Russia certainly isn't as well.Under Western ideology,both countries are unpredictable as they do not have clearly defined policies that can be put to checks within the structure of their own government.Both countries(China and Russia) are considerably powerful as an independent nation,in the books of the United States,a non-democratic state will always remain a threat.

Just because Russia and China doesn't have roque leader like Kim of North Korea doesn't mean they can't become the next North Korea tomorrow as there is no power,individual or body to counter such efforts within the Chinese or Russian governments.
Stop being naive! What do you think are the basic elements necessary for a government to be termed '' a democracy?'' Can you name five democratic institutions inherent in the administration of government machinery in Britain, France or the US that are not readily available in Russia? I will be waiting. Do you even know that the acts of when a government spy on its people, decieved its people just to realize certain policy objectives, is a feature of totalitarianism? Yet, the suppose essence of democracy is the government ''of the people, for the people, and by the people,'' even when they had no full right to their privacy? And come to think of it: if we are to go by the Abraham Lincoln's litmus test, not even the US is close. So, don't even go there, mister. Today's concept of democracy is a sham that only exist in the abstract meaning of the term.

Opining that Russia or China are not democracies, hence, the US and Europe would always see them as ''threats,'' is a demonstration of the fact that you are not conversant with the reality on ground, or maliciously chosen to ignore them. If the US or Europe sees Russia as threat base on your ''undemocratic ideology,'' where would you put Satan Arabia where women are flogged, stoned to death and publicly executed at will? What about Erdogan's Turkey who takes over major newspaper, imprison and try journalists for treason, just for doing their works? Not to mention sponsoring terrorism? Yet this two states are allies of the US. How should we reconcile that with your dictum of ''democracy'' per western ideology vis Russia?
It simply doesn't make sense. What is actually shaping their respective views, is the concept of ''real politiks,'' not some ''democratic'' kiddie excuse, my brother.

However the case is different for the United States.The American constitution is supreme.It empowers the government to protect its citizens against external aggression.Also it empowers it's citizens to check the government against rogue policies that are detrimental to the well being and image of the United States.
So the constitution of China or Russia is not supreme? It doesn't protect the interest of its people, eh? By the way: we saw how the American people were able to stop the rogue policies of its warproned government on Iraq, Afghan, Libya, Syria, right? How Saddam got weapons of MD from the devil, abi? Man, take it easy!

Which is why American democracy trumps all others cause the government is not at liberty to do as it pleases.The government is constantly reminded her citizens have a voice which has a binding weight on government decision.Leadership in America is the job of all,power is not in the hands of a select few powerful.
This shows you are still understanding the system, my brother. They don't care that much about the people as you think. Thats why they did and covered up 9/11, fooled the people on the Iraqi WMD, sponsored sheer terror against Syria, etc. Contrary to what you believe, US democracy trumps nothing! I don't see police in Russia, France of England enforcing justice based on racial profiling- murdering unarmed blacks, and even the murderer do get away in one piece. That's just an example.

A lot of you folks mistake a country's passive and active tolerance of it's people to excel under a certain form of social stratisfication like, gay marriage, etc, as ''democracy!'' But that isn't really a fundamental element or yardstick of measuring a democracy. Rather, that's a perversion of nature and a cut-throat departure from the basic norms of the real and natural society. Believe me, brother. Many folks are still understanding democracy.

Until a resolve can be reached on ideological differences.
No resolve can ever reach as long as some few people wants to control the rest of mankind. There will always be resistance here and there. That's man!
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia A Hollow Superpower-the Economist by Appleyard(m): 2:08pm On Mar 25, 2016
PastorAIO:
Here are some cursory notes I've made on the article:



Wow, this Putin must be such a clever man for him to have orchestrated in such fine detail the scattering of syrian refugees into Europe. Oh but wait, the refugee crisis had started before Russia even got involved in Syria. Hmmm….
Then 'his foes in the European Union'? That immediately exposes the writers of this articles. They see Putin as a 'foe' and immediately project their animosity unto him. Where did Putin call the European Union his foes? What is the basis for such a dumb statement?
And of course such an article is not complete without a bit of Obama bashing. 'hey let's all blame the black man'!. Perhaps the supporters of this articles would care to tell us what Obama should have done.


And who said that Putin's objective was to remove IS? I thought it was to prop up the government of Bashar Al Assad which was about to be defeated before Russia stepped in. Now Bashar Al Assad has more of an upper hand, and Russia has stepped out of the conflict so as not to get stuck in a quagmire. Every good military expedition sets out it's objectives and stops once it's objectives have been achieved.
Without a doubt Putin's 'propaganda' is wearing thin but not as thin as US propaganda. I don't know of any western youth (below age 25 or even 30) that takes the western press seriously.



'to what he sees as'… Abeg forget what he sees (as if they have a crystal ball to read his mind and what he is seeing. Question: Does America go about subverting various regimes (without or without the language of universal democracy? The answer is a resounding YES! So whether Putin sees things as that or not, the fact remains that it is true and every nation in the world interested in securing it's own sovereignty should be on guard against that.

Again we should ask: Is this true or not? The answer is 'YES, it is TRUE'

These people and their magic crystal ball shaaaaa. So they've read his mind and concluded that he intervened because he is afraid that if these revolutions succeed then the people in Russia will revolt too. The Russians will look at Iraq and then look at Libya etc and they'll say, 'hmmm, we'd like some of that yes please'. The writer of this article is so dumb, or perhaps he writes in the hopes that his readers will be so dumb.
So Putin's popularity rating is higher than any other western world leader, and there has been a dip in those feeling that the country is headed in the right direction from 61 % to 51 % and that gives us hope that there'll be a revolution in Russia. Talk about Wishful thinking!! I wonder what the same statistics would say for the USA.
"The Ukrainians are petrified"? - No Comment.




These writers understand Putin more than Obama does, after all they can read his mind and maybe they are even lovers that share pillow talk.
Syria was not quagmire for Russia because Russia set it's objectives and withdrew once those objectives were achieved. The objective was to prop up Assad and give him a fighting chance.
These fools seem to think that the sole objective of Putin's involvement in Syria was just a photo op for the media. No mention of the fact that Assad's Syria is a staunch ally of Russia's. No mention of the fact that if a clear path is made for a pipeline to be built through syria into Europe then Russia will be weakened geopolitically.
Before they ask Russia to be in the business of nation-building, they should asked how their nation building in Libya and Iraq went. Did it go well?



These idiots are just war-mongering. If IS are such disrupters then how comes the US have been supporting them. US's strategy was to get Assad out by any means necessary including the use of IS. But according to these muppets the middle eastern regional leaders (does this include IS leadership?) cannot work together for the collective good without a free ride on American power. 'So the West needs to be prepared'. strengthen forces within Europe, get NATO to put troops in the Baltic states next to Russia. Russia are weak, we've seen it with our crystal balls, all we have to do is call their bluff by 'needlessly provoking' them. Hurray!!



And this needless provocation ought to be done in Ukraine where we have a nice Fascist government in place willing to do our bidding. Hurray!



In other words let's forget about their sovereignty and poke our nose into their government whether we're invited or not. Let's be paranoid and go about spoiling for a fight. Or maybe not. Russia will eventually decline? Wait o! Isn't this what they accused Obama of thinking and saying that he didn't understand Russia. Oh okay I geddit. Let's blame the black guy. I can't wait for Obama's term to be over so that America's eventual demise can occur in the hands of a white man.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia A Hollow Superpower-the Economist by Appleyard(m): 1:49pm On Mar 25, 2016
hungryboy:
Jesus Christ,
This American mainstream journalists are so pathetic,
Always talking about how the economy of another country will crumble, while their own is 19trillion in debt,
The hardly talk about the trillions in student loan debt, or that, the Average American carry credit for head pass anything,
The greatest threat to America is not Donald Trump or Isis or Russia,
It's journalists like this who keep spewing lies to Americans everyday, to further an agenda
For this truth, God has added six years plus your years, in Jesus name.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia A Hollow Superpower-the Economist by Appleyard(m): 1:45pm On Mar 25, 2016
capip120:
Just like the US hollowed war in Iraq and the so called air strikes it has been carrying out in Iraq and Syria for many years and months. The war in Iraq can't be called a win, they got their assets wiped by the alqaeda brigade and Taliban in Iraq and Afghanistan. They supported the mujahideen rebels during the Soviet war in Afghanistan by equipping them with stinger missiles to fall soviet planes despite the fact that the Soviets were there at the behest of the Afghan government, I don't need to tell you what happened in Vietnam as they were completely humiliated and was forced to retreat after expending billions of dollars and not to mention the more than 5-10thousand planes and helicopters lost during the battle of some phantom misconception of ideology by their leaders where they tagged communism "evil" and swore to defeat it. I guess you all no the outcome of that war.
Now talk about hypocrisy, you study the US.
They f**k**g own the economist so their trolls can always go there and drink from the cup of propaganda who inturn vomits the propogated fallacies here. Just like the way our body keeps good food for use and takes out the bad ones, it is left open for all to see.
Op try again.
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia A Hollow Superpower-the Economist by Appleyard(m): 1:41pm On Mar 25, 2016
bonechamberlain:
nonsense, what foreign policy goal has the u.s achieved without persuasion... very useless propaganda article nonsense. angry
The normal junk who would expect from the west. The US achieved the following policies by persuation: Iraq, Afghan, Libya, Syria, Vietnam, Nicaragua, Laos, Cambodia, etc..

Western propaganda oozes like dung!
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia A Hollow Superpower-the Economist by Appleyard(m): 1:29pm On Mar 25, 2016
NairaMinted:
Lol! What next are they going to publish? Putin is gay? Russia never really launched Sputnik?
They have even said that Putin is an alien.. When you want to have a good laugh, just tune to western focus on Putin. The man is so popular right now. grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia A Hollow Superpower-the Economist by Appleyard(m): 1:17pm On Mar 25, 2016
birdman:
I agree, this article is useless. Breaking the back of Isis by taking out the oil trade with Turkey and stemming the tide of the syrian rebels is a huge win, no matter which way you spin it. This is going to boost Putin's image at home for sure. Their economy might very well tank, but it looks like Putin will survive based on this.
What is wrong with you birdman? Can't you see you will have to feature Lil Wayne to get the ''mirror on the wall'' message through to the unrepentant heads of these children of Hollywood, eh? ;-)

You know it was Russia that started bombing Syria after arming so called ''moderate rebels'' to oust Assad, thus chasing millions into Europe. That's how they ''weaponize the refugees.'' cheesy

You know they never did achieve anything in Syria. And as you can see, it is the ''rebels'' that are now seated as chief in Geneva, since Assad was the one who actually ''begged'' for peace, despite all the air support the US gave him. grin

Damit, birdman! Didn't you noticed that the ''rebels'' not Assad forces recently took two more territories from ISIS two days ago? Courtsey of
whom? The US, not Russia! Is that clear? cheesy

And that pipeline would still get through, anyway. That is, by the time Assad becomes an ally of the US, and Erdogan, like Sakaashvili, becomes the governor of Damascus. Do you copy that? :-P

Now, I don't think your head is only there on your shoulders, but right there above the skies where you rightly sees everything, ditto your assessment! Let those who have their head buried in ISIS anus continue to grope in the darkness of western propaganda, while suffocating in waves of russophobia and self denial.


How it must pained to see a ''week Russia'' thwarting and completely bamboozled the hegemonic designs for the Ukraine and Syria. Its a real pain in the a*s, and the only way to comfort oneself is to revere in anti Putin delusive propagandagrin

Give it up for the Langley graduants! grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Russia A Hollow Superpower-the Economist by Appleyard(m): 12:20pm On Mar 25, 2016
Missy89:
I read this few days ago. very interesting
Very interestine, right? grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Why The West Wanted Gaddafi Out by Appleyard(m): 2:02pm On Mar 23, 2016
Missy89:
This makes absolute no sense.

1. Russia and China are part of the BIS. You have said on this forum a number of times that these countries are on a mission to defeat the bankers. so are you saying this countries are just in the pocket of the bankers like the rest?
It makes a lot of sense, and you just partially answered yourself. What do you think constitute and underlined the current economic/financial system? Control! Why are most nations (especially third nations) of the world complaining about the current system? Unequal footing/Control! What do you think is motivating the likes of China, Russia to creating their own alternative rating and payment systems? Why has China overtime increase its dumping of US treasuries holdings? In one sentence: THEY WANT TO GET FREED FROM THE GLOBAL ECONOMIC SATANIC BANKSTERS! The fiat money control mechanisms and the Bretton Wood's scheme from 1971 has proved to be subjugate factors limiting and constraining the economic freedom and financial sovereignty of states, while placing the life and future of the global economic order in the hands of a relative devilish few, and many states have discovered this enslaving schemes, hence, the moves to do away with the current settings. Just wait a minute...


Another sign you do not understand economics. Lets Say Libya creates her own currency and ties it to gold like you claim, the "banksters" dont have to go thru Libya central bank to have dominion. Gold is a commodity and Libya currency value will be determined by the elasticity of gold on the commodity markets. meaning, The "dinar" will increase or decrease in value when miner x who lives in Sokoto or Siberia digs up another piece of gold.

meaning Libya is leaving the fate of her currency to the hand of the banksters anyway since the market will always set the price. Even if the dictator decides to have a fixed price for Libya's gold to prevent outside interference, His economy will be under or over valued since simple demand and supply or economic growth is not the factor that determine how much his dinars are worth. Libya will probably be renamed Islamic republic of Depression.

2. Almost all the countries on the African continent is not on the BIS. does that means they do not practice the same fractional reserve system like the rest?.

Another meaningless rant here. If Libya has 150 tonnes of gold and wants all other countries to follow suit, this will lead to a gold rush since every country will be trying to buy gold to back their currency or they will have to devalue their money if they cant find enough. Gold Rush have always lead to inflation ( the same thing he was trying to prevent by having gold back his currency in the first place).
You see yourself? smiley Tell me which economic/financial model is devoid of the tendency of either inflationary or deflationary spiral, as determine by the market force;s of demand and supply, price mechanism and government monetary policies? I will tell you: None! so basing your analysis on aspects of inflation as justification to undermine gold backed currency and blatantly denying the “dark mind” behind the Libyan invasion, is totally myopic, and a disservice to the Globalist sheer concerted efforts to keep the status quo. Now listen! There are those who believe that a fully backed gold standard with all necessary conditions put in place, would reassure relative economic/financial discipline fairplay. That there actually exist a relatively small but powerful group which has succeeded in acquiring a choke-hold on the affairs of practically the entire human race. And that we should be quick to recognize that no small group could wield such gigantic power unless millions of people in all walks of life were “in on the take” and were willing to knuckle down to the iron-clad regimentation of the ruthless bosses behind the scenes. To say that this the main factor driving the gold standard evangelists, would be an understatement. These proponents believe that complete deregulation and privatization (in for-profit hands) of public commons in the hands of few, but overwhelmingly powerful people, is the recipe for economic and financial slavery.
All proponents of this theory agree that a nation's monetary system must fall into this category, of a public commons, to be managed in trust, by their government, for the common good of all its peoples. This is all the more true for a non-predatory international monetary system which ought to sensibly be held in global trust as a global public commons.
And it is noteworthy for privatization impetus that as a non-predatory socio-economics system design principle, when there is an infinite demand for something, and the very life of every man and every woman may depend on its availability, holding it as a social benefit, in public trust, is the mark of wisdom; whereas privatizing it in unaccountable gluttonous hands, is a mark of predatory social Darwinianism.

That is the one key central platform upon which all monetary reformers are united, and have always remain united throughout history. It forms one continuous resistance against aggregated wealth holders who have hijacked control of any nation's money supply.
This resistance is profoundly historical, and even today, brings to bear its entire weight of all historical arguments made against private monopolistic control of a nation's money – from Julius Caesar to Cicero to Thomas Jefferson to Andrew Jackson to Abraham Lincoln to William Jennings Bryan. The latter being the last of the great challengers to private wealth holders perpetually seeking to make a precious limited commodity like gold the standard currency, before the devilish orchestration in 1913, of the present day private banking cartel of the Federal Reserve System, did one better. Legally acquired exclusive private monopoly rights over the most common element, 'thin air'!

Therefore, in these times, we are seeing a resumption of that same thread of resistance – with a clearer understanding of the devil before us, and with an even greater force of cumulative arguments – right from where William Jennings Bryan left off, continuing with his own precise principled words of 1896:
“We say in our platform that we believe that the right to coin money and issue money is a function of government. We believe it. We believe it is a part of sovereignty and can no more with safety be delegated to private individuals than can the power to make penal statutes or levy laws for taxation.”


And of course, not neglecting to be inspired by America's famous “I killed the bank” President, Andrew Jackson's own motivating words:

“You are a den of vipers. I intend to rout you out, and by God, I will rout you out.”


And today we are seeing the same pattern of resistance --Libya under Ghadafi, Iraq under Saddam-- to the list of many nations now calling for their gold and piling up others. Today, what your myopic textbook theory failed to realize, is that, many countries are withdrawing their gold deposits with the US. The likes of Netherlands, Belgium, Austria, France, Germany, name it. It doesn’t end there. Ecuador, Finland, Switzerland, Venezuela, Romania and Poland: They’re all either talking about repatriating national gold or they’ve already done so. Some are clearly countries run by leaders with a populist agenda — to wit, Venezuela and Ecuador. Others are run by sober governments making sober decisions about national wealth in a time of global economic worry.

So, if according to your “blind man's” theory gold is bullsh*t, and is only cranks who knows nothing that wants it, then why the hell are all these countries withdrawing their gold back, asking for them back or simply adding up on them? They are all cranks and id*ots, abi? I just they look you dey laugh. grin grin

Face the facts and quit living in denial! These countries want their gold back because they’ve lost trust in the global banking system that they (some of them) themselves are the very heart of. They’re the wizards behind the fiat-currency curtain … and even now, they are scared!

To them, it is better to have local gold back on home ground than exposed to a global financial system that could make retrieving gold in a crisis truly problematic. Taking back their own gold now is the safe bet in an unsafe world staring at the vengeful face of fiscal Armageddon… and thus by this act, it is effectively, a vote of no confidence in modern monetary policies.

Let that sink in! cry

Now, here is something to consider.

In his open letter to the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, Keith Neumeyer, chairman of First Mining Finance, stressed that the actions of real-world producers and buyers are not determined by financial market operations which are conducted only on paper.

“As China boosted its gold reserves to 600 tons, there is no reasonable ground to speak about the low demand for gold. In this situation gold prices should go up, but actually they do not, according to the article. It turns out that while the market prices indicate that gold is unpromising, real customers continue to buy it in record amounts, it explains.”


Can't you see that your economic theory on “gold rush –dig-ups in Minna and Siberia, etc” only exist in text books and have no bearing on the facts on ground?

Too many on Wall Street, inside the Fed, and those wandering around, talking down gold as a quaint relic, would have you believe that gold has no intrinsic value. Yet all over the world, central banks in countries giant and small disagree, and are piling up gold.

The facts are overwhelming already.

I dey laugh ooo. grin grin

But the worst of your microscopic Steven Wonders analysis is yet to come! Please, don’t look below. wink

And by the way, The US have the largest gold reserve ( around 8,133 tonnes compared to the sh1tty 150 tonnes you keep talking about) so lets say every country returns to gold today, US will still be the richest country without breaking a sweat. not to mention most country have their gold stored in US vaults (Germany, IMF etc). They can kiss their goodbye and the US will still maintain her financial dominance. So it is like running in circles. Dollar still wins.
Blood of goat! This shows that a lot of you guys are living in fantasy @ the bolded, with heads and anus buried in Langley propaganda textbooks. If the US would still remain the king, why are they running from the idea of a return to gold standard? Why are they attacking any nation that dares the current financial order? Like i said earlier, a lot of countries are now withdrawing their gold from the US and also from the Uk. Food for thought, eh? cheesy

And what in hell makes you think that the US would still remain the dominant financial power once the gold standard sets in? This alone shows that you don't even understand the dynamics at play here. The U.S. went off the gold standard under President Nixon in 1971. What may not be widely known is that the classic gold standard that the U.S. was utilizing (which Britain and France had followed before) included a 40 percent cover ratio.

What does that mean? “The government will only print money if it has gold in its Treasury equivalent to 40% of the currency in circulation. Phew! That means if you have $10 billion of money in circulation, you have to have $4 billion of gold in the Treasury. A lot of gold bulls don’t realize it was a 40 percent cover.

Now, How Much Gold Is In Fort Knox? (Assuming that there is still actual gold left and that empty vaults are not being guarded, if rumors making the rounds that they have been sold to third parties or stolen, are something to go by.)

Given that the current U.S. federal debt stands at $19 trillion-and still counting, it begs the question, how much gold does the United States own? Currently, the U.S. like you rightly said, does have the largest gold reserves in the world at 8,133.5 tons, according to the World Gold Council. Just for comparison, Germany is a distant second with 3,395.5 tons, (and is withdrawing its own.)

So, the U.S. has a lot of gold, but is it enough to back all their debt? Not even close. Not to mention backing further spending.

A New Orleans based precious metals investment firm, did some quick back-of-the-envelope math.

“One ton equals 2000 pounds. One pound equals 16 ounces. 2000 times sixteen equals 32,000 ounces. With spot gold about $1,760, one ton equals about $56 million,” it says. That equals about $456 billion at current market value, or roughly half a trillion in gold, the report said.
And it went further to say, “Even if we liquidated our gold we could only bring our debt down to $15.5 trillion,” Beam notes. “That’s a lot of shortfall. The next step [for the gold standard] is for them to revalue gold. It would make it go up by 400-500 percent
David Hargreaves, a widely watched mining consultant, has actually calculated a figure at $40,000 per ounce, based on world GDP figures (roughly 100 trillion).

Others have estimated a $10,000 per ounce. But, again even that could be high, as CPM Group’s Christian notes that most gold bulls are assuming a 100 percent cover rate, while historic gold standards have only boasted a 40 percent cover.
Simply put, the big positive of a return to the gold standard “would give us fiscal discipline for governments, businesses and individuals,” says Ken Goldstein, economist at the New York-based Conference Board. “It would force all of us to be more fiscally responsible.
(This is exactly what the globalists don’t want to hear. They must not be restricted by any means!)

With all of these aforementioned facts, how is the US going to be the greatest and dominant nation when such standard set in? You see how shallow this your theory is? It doesn’t match the facts on the ground. And again, here are the facts you are stubbornly refusing to comprehend.

1. Why did the hegemon invading forces have to switch back the financial system set by Saddam back to the status quo immediately after the invasion of Iraq, if they, like you implied, don’t give a dime about the Dollar?

2. Why was Libya labeled a threat to the global financial order? (it was never seen as a threat until the gold dinar proposal)

3. In what way did Libya constitute a threat to the world financial dealings? (other than the gold dinar)

4. Why did the rebels set up a Central Bank of Benghazi within weeks of the uprising? (question for the gods)

5. Why are rebellious or terrorists groups like ISIS not setting up their own Central Banks in places like Syria, Iraq, despite being more formidably entrenched in business dealings and control of territories? (because Assad’s case is only “pipeline,” not the Dollar?)

I guess Missy89 cannot tell. Because, they are not facts on the ground, just conspiracy theories. Even as Guatamela was conspiracy theory, Syria conspiracy theory, Iraq conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theories every where. No, they don’t have anything to do with the oil, the mineral resources or the cash that controls them. At this point, I shook my head in disbelief. huh

Even when the heat was turned on against President Jonathan, and the Boko Haram activities quadrupled, immediately after Nigeria announced that it’s going to convert half of its foreign reserve holdings from Dollar into the Chinese Yuan, the western clueless (not saying you are one) still shout – “ Sharap there, Appleyard, Nairaminted, Scully95, Zoharariel – they are all conspiracy theories”.

You guys at the other end of the divide need a Rehard Burnkey mix-with T.B Joshua crusade to deliver all of you from western institute of delusive confusion!

The Langley prison is oozing! grin grin grin grin

Foreign AffairsRe: America Is Finnished.the Humiliating Moment Iran Arrested Us Sailors. by Appleyard(m): 11:29pm On Mar 21, 2016
NairaMinted:
So not only did these "sailors" demonstrate their poor navigational skills, get humiliated kneeling down & treated like common Somali pirates, cry like babies for their mamas and sh*t their pants, they also gave out classified information.

I'm gonna call Langley. Heads must roll for this fvck up!
What a pity! Papa Ajasco must hear this. cheesy
Foreign AffairsRe: Did The Simpsons Predict The Syrian Uprising in 2001? by Appleyard(m): 10:43pm On Mar 21, 2016
From all indications, Trump will win the race, but i fear he won't last. As for Syria, even a blind man knows the US was behind it all.
Foreign AffairsRe: Why Did I Take Downing Russia Jet By Turkey Personal by Appleyard(m): 10:24pm On Mar 21, 2016
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Foreign AffairsRe: Why The West Wanted Gaddafi Out by Appleyard(m): 9:48pm On Mar 21, 2016
Missy89:
If the internet is your evidence for Obama's continuation for Bush wars then I digress lipsrsealed
Maybe you should help me break into Langley and steal files to buttress my points, since the internet is no longer a viable place to source for infos, becos the factual evidence provided that succintly clarified d point, doesn't suit ur lying narative. I greet u. cheesy

The Saddam dollar and Euro thing just shows how you lack basic understanding of economic

Even if so there was no reason for America to worry about the dollar stability
I have warned you several times that the only stain on ur analytical credibility is ur prime failure in admisibility when faced with logical reasoning underlined by glaring Facts! The wars in the Middle East and North Africa were about oil and the cash that controls it, and i will tell you. So sweep that basic economic bullsh*t under the carpet and lets face facts! Why did the US invade Iraq? For the fun of it or what? And why was it that d 1st thing they did was to switch d payment system back to d status quo? Now hear this. Saddam was setting a 'dangerous' precedent. The same thing that Ghadafi was aiming for.
The real reason he was ousted was that Libya – like Iraq under Hussein –challenged the supremacy of the dollar and the Western banks: again bringing to mind Gen. Wesley unveiled plot
to take out seven countries which are Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Iran.
What do these seven countries have in common? In the context of banking, one that sticks out is that none of them is listed among the 56 member banks of the Bank for International Settlements (BIS). That evidently puts them outside the long regulatory arm of the central bankers’ central bank in Switzerland.
The most renegade of the lot was Libya and Iraq, the two that have actually been directly attacked. It is interesting to note that six months before the US moved into Iraq to take down Saddam Hussein, the oil nation had made the move to accept euros instead of dollars for oil, and this became a threat to the global dominance of the dollar as the reserve currency, and its dominion as the petrodollar.''
Gaddafi made a similarly bold move: he initiated a movement to refuse the dollar and the euro, and called on Arab and African nations to use a new currency instead, the gold dinar as Africa's currency.
And that brings us back to the puzzle of the Libyan central bank. One fact hardly mentioned by western demagogues and media pundits is that: the Central Bank of Libya is 100% State Owned … As at then, the Libyan government creates its own money, the Libyan Dinar, through the facilities of its own central bank, Underlining the fact that Libya is a sovereign nation with its own great resources, able to sustain its own economic destiny. One major problem for globalist banking cartels is that in order to do business with Libya, they must go through the Libyan Central Bank and its national currency, a place where they have absolutely zero dominion or power-broking ability. Hence, taking down the Central Bank of Libya and absorbing it into its hive of compliant nations, was a major aim that never appeared in the speeches of Obama, Cameron and Sarkozy.
Gadhafi’s plan to quit selling Libyan oil in U.S. dollars — demanding payment instead in gold-backed “dinars” was the real cause [of the Libyan war and killing of Gadhafi]. The regime, sitting on massive amounts of gold, estimated at close to 150 tons, was also pushing other African and Middle Eastern governments to follow suit.
And it literally had the potential to bring down the dollar and the world monetary system by extension . No wonder French President Nicolas Sarkozy went so far as to call Libya a “threat” to the financial security of the world.'' Yes! Tell me how else is Libya a threat to the global order? I laf in swahili! grin

Gadhafi’s plan would have strengthened the whole continent of Africa in the eyes of economists backing sound money — not to mention investors. But it would have been especially devastating for the U.S. economy, the American dollar, and the elite in charge of the system, and “the central banking Ponzi scheme'' which requires an ever-increasing base of demand.
No wonder the rebels within a week of the uprising announced the creation of their own Central Bank, a decision which left many analysts scratching their beards. As one aptly put it: “I have never before heard of a central bank being created in just a matter of weeks out of a popular uprising,” Maybe Miss89 have. grin

Even d MSM couldn't deny it that more sophisticated influence than a rag tag bunch of rebels running around, was at play. John Carney of the CNBC concluded inter alia, “It certainly indicate how extraordinarily powerful central bankers have become in our era.”

Face the facts, Missy. It was all about oil and the money that controls it. Your ''Basic economic'' doesn't deny d fact.
Foreign AffairsRe: Vladimir Putin Orders Russian Forces To Begin Withdrawing From Syria by Appleyard(m): 6:00pm On Mar 20, 2016
scully95:
You are always on point... Again the funniest thing is the western mind controlling propaganda networks are crediting the ceasfire and the geneva talks to the u.s .. Can you Imagine that ? Those crooks have finally lost it.

I was argueing with someone on youtube over s-400 and the junk U.S spend millions $$$ building and call it fighter jet then person mistakenly made mention of these. "That if not U.S, Germany there wont be ceasfire in Syria". I was like omg, where did this zombie got this rubbish from!!!

I replied him saying... For 5 good years, there was no geneva talk, no ceafire but when Russia decided to start pounding those western sponsored terrorist then they are begging for a ceasfire.. The guy/troll/girl did not reply.
Were you expecting a reply from her? Have you forgotten how zombie-ism works? You see, a lot of people are blinded by hate and propaganda in so much that they have lost touch with reality and can't even comprehend simple facts by applying the sumpliest of logical reasoning. So you shold be able to know that anyone crediting the hegemon for the little peace Syria is currently enjoying, is an inmate doing life in the western prison of propaganda and zombification. Thats just it, brother.



The empire of lies have always wanted a Base(Africom) in Nigeria/Ecowas to complete the chain of China containment. These have been the goal/plan right from day one and the goodnews is their Saudi arabia Wahhabi boko haram terrorist instituion affiliate are also getting pounded in Nigeria.


The idea of sending troops is just the innitial stage. Those troops will infiltrate the Nigeria military like it was done during GEJ. Sell info to boko haram.. instead of containing boko haram, the opposite will be happening until they achieve the Africom base.. This is the main reason the anglozionist Gen. decided to use information war against the regime of Buhari. Pure information war cos he knows the anti-Buharism will surely market it for him.

This is a very simple logic that has happened in the past but forget it, Nigerians are the smartest people on earth, we only need more wiser people than smarter ones to take country to where it should be..




And the only way left is to lie their ways in to achieving the goal.
Exactly on point. I so much thank God that Buhari is not as cluesless as Jonathan initially. One thing that has been keeping this nation together is the will to survive. God is really helping us, and with Him by our side, all their devilish wish against Nigeria will never succeed.
Foreign AffairsRe: Vladimir Putin Orders Russian Forces To Begin Withdrawing From Syria by Appleyard(m): 5:43pm On Mar 20, 2016
Embosman:
Like the leadership issue in Libya right? What do you mean by moderate rebels? People that get employed by Isis et al. right after graduation from CIA training facilities.
How does the recruitment process go self
CIA: What's your name
Him: Nasir Yusuf
CIA: Are you a moderate that want Assad gone?
Nasir: Yes
CIA: Alright, take this guns and go and fight him.
CIA: *thinks to himself* I hope he wins so we can get those pipelines and cripple Russia's energy market. Lol
Foreign AffairsRe: Vladimir Putin Orders Russian Forces To Begin Withdrawing From Syria by Appleyard(m): 5:41pm On Mar 20, 2016
Embosman:
Lol... The way to protect Assad is by destroying his enemies i.e. the hegemon proxy fighters.
Lmao he didn't destroy Isis enough...mehn where have you been? Okay what has your all mighty hegemon achieved bar create the mess in the first place?
Match Russia's objective in the first place to what's happening now i.e. a relatively stronger Assad and a political peace process on the way. Pls give it up lol.
The truth hurt like a serpent, and you just said it. Keep it up. cheesy
Foreign AffairsRe: Why The West Wanted Gaddafi Out by Appleyard(m): 4:50pm On Mar 20, 2016
Zoharariel:
Permit me to use Yemen as a case study.

Amerika's interest in Yemen is certainly not rooted in altruism or a desire to promote democratic ideals.

On the contrary, it is the application of a long-standing geopolitical strategy to control international trade through the Mandab Strait and Suez Canal, access to African raw materials, and most specifically, block the expansion of Chinese economic influence in both the Middle East and Africa.

For these reasons, Amerika has a keen interest in both Yemen and Somalia, desperate to maintain chaos in those countries, just like they're using Boko Haram including fomenting of ethnic, tribal, and other sectarian conflicts to destabilize Nigeria, so as to prevent stable, nationalist leaders from emerging.

In so doing, Amerika once again shows itself to be an imperialist aggressor, interested only in maintaining and expanding the empire.

In Yemen, we’ve seen this strategy employed vis-à-vis the Huthi rebellion, the propagandistic use of tribal groups as proxies of Saudi Arabia, Iran, or whomever Amerika wants to demonize, and countless other examples of these sorts of divisive tactics.

In this way, the imperialists are able to keep Yemen fragmented, using it as a pawn on the geopolitical chessboard.

BTW - Stop arguing or debating with Missy89, else she will colonize your brain with her subtle lies & propaganda. grin
Insightful. US hegemony knows no boundary.
Foreign AffairsRe: Hillary Clinton Appears Before Rally Completely Naked (SEE PHOTOS).. by Appleyard(m): 4:42pm On Mar 20, 2016
Rubbish
Foreign AffairsRe: Why The West Wanted Gaddafi Out by Appleyard(m): 2:46pm On Mar 20, 2016
Missy89:
Rumsfeld/Bush policy makers weren't making policy anymore when Obama was president so the idea that the Libya invasion was pre planned after 911 doesn't make sense since (not saying the book is false) it was 2 different administrations. quoting a book about the foreign policy objective of a president and tying it to another one 10 years later is the highest level of crankery
Chai! I just can't believe YOU are the one actually typing this babel! Are you mistaken the intergrity of US administrative and policy objectivity for those of Nigeria where one successive government comes in and simply discontinue with and blatantly overhaul every policy and progam of the previous administration? How on earth could you say this, when you know that policies of one government, especially when they are strategic, overlaps successive goverments? There are so many policies of Bush that were consolidated on and continued by the Obama administration. I don't even need to sight examples. The world wide web is our friend; do your bit and feed your eyes with facts. This much was even succintly captured by Charlie Savage in his book ''Power Wars,'' and even corroborated by the NYT. In fact, Obama was making his peace with Bush's long war policy as early as Santa Cruz Day, 2009, when Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab nearly blew up a plane over Detroit with a bomb in his underwear.
The underwear bombing incident was both a political and policy jolt up for Obama. The tug and pull between security and reform that existed in the first year of his presidency effectively ended, and a kind of retrenchment began.
Opining that since Bush policy makers were no longer making policies as at when Obama came into power, and thus have nothing to do with Libya or such, is a very childish argument. If policy formulations are to be based on your premise, then there would be no need for developing and undertaking strategic objectives.
It was a Pentagon's objective to take out 7 states (covertly and overtly,) and under Bush we saw the achievements of part of this objectives - Iraq and co, and Obama's administration simply followed up on the rest, taken on Libya and now Syria. Yet, someone is saying it doesn't make sense, when the same Rumsfield policy attested to by Wesley Clark is acting its script, huh? I guess i will need to visit the Synagogue Church of All Nations to stand in gap for you guys for a mighty deliverance from the spirit of denial. T. B Joshua must hear this. cheesy


France was the country calling for Qaddafi to go since February, It was a French initiative. Who proposed a no fly zone? France and Britain.US joined because France was an ally and a NATO member (and to enforce the no fly zone)
France did no sh*t! US forces were already positioned off the coast of Libya, way before Cameron, reechoed by Sarkozy, proposed their no-fly zone. And saying that the US got in as an ally simply to enforce a no-fly zone, is again, a deservice to US hospitality of spreading ''democrazy'' through color coded revolution that was the hall mark of the Libyan uprising, which initially consisted of over 1000 Al Qaeda activists. We all know how the US embassy in Libya was used as a CIA forward base for the revolution. The whole thing was US game from day 1.

Even the idea of "gold dinar" and "oil" doesn't make so much sense.

For more prespective.

See why your rant about the book is irrelevant here?
Obama was not sitting on any nonesense fence! They knew what they were doing. The same Obama disregarded a Congress vote down on the authorization of war against Libya, and proceeded with it. And Its all about oil, gold and dinar..and it makes alot of sense!
The motivation to overthrow Gaddafi was economic. Like in
August of 2000, Saddam Hussein announced he was going to sell Iraq's oil for euros. In 2003, the first thing invading U.S. troops did was take over the Ministry of Oil and switch back to dollars. Even an article in the Economist mentioned this fact, but curiously buried it deep within a large article, and phrased it in a way designed to inoculate readers against its significance.
Gaddafi was about to introduce a gold dinar.
A tiny but powerful group of political and financial elite enjoy the exclusive privilege of creating dollars out of nothing and forcing the entire world to use them as money. They do this by requiring the use of dollars to buy natural resources and in general to participate in the global economy. The defense of this privilege explains much U.S. government foreign policy and belligerence. This explains not only why Iran is presented as a threat, but why Russia and China are the new big concerns.
The role of the dollar as the world reserve currency is coming to an end, but the powers that be aren't letting it happen without a fight.

These are facts, and not what you termed rants and crankery! God is calling you, Missy89. Repent now before its too late! ;-)
Foreign AffairsRe: Why The West Wanted Gaddafi Out by Appleyard(m): 9:04pm On Mar 19, 2016
Missy89:
A little history lesson will help.

Libya's intervention was France's idea, Us got in much later in march. How is that US led?

Maybe you should read the link for more perspective.
I read you! It is true that France had a criminal motive (for obvious reasons as refered to by the article) to see a regime change in Libya, but the Libya's intervention was never a French idea at the first place!
Toppling Gaddafi was planned right after 9/11, or perhaps even before.
Just as American reporter Gareth Porter aptly reported in 2008:
Three weeks after the September 11, 2001, terror attacks, former US defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld established an official military objective of not only removing the Saddam Hussein regime by force but overturning the regime in Iran, as well as in Syria and four other countries in the Middle East, according to a document quoted extensively in then-under secretary of defense for policy Douglas Feith’s published account of the Iraq war decisions. Feith’s account further indicates that this aggressive aim of remaking the map of the Middle East by military force and the threat of force was supported explicitly by the country’s top military leaders.
Feith’s book,War and Decision, now released, provides excerpts of the paper Rumsfeld sent to President George W Bush on September 30, 2001, calling for the administration to focus not on ''taking down Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaeda network,'' but on the aim of establishing “new regimes” in a series of states… of which Libya was chief. The testimony of Gen. Wesley Clark further corroborated this facts.
The invasion of Libya was never of French origin, but a United States strategic policy ab initio.

Again, you tried to make it look like France led the rest players in the one-sided encounter, and that the US only join the party in march; but that is not totally the case. From the beginning of the intervention, the initial coalition consisted of Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Italy, Norway, Qatar, Spain, UK and the US, which later expanded to nineteen states, with newer states mostly enforcing the no-fly zone and naval blockade or providing military logistical assistance. The effort was initially largely led by France and the United Kingdom, with command shared with the United States. Which already had its fleet carrier ''the Enterprise'' in place way before the hostilities commenced on march 19th. The March 23 NATO take over was spearheaded by the US, without whom NATO is a toothless bulldog (we all know that the US runs NATO, and its the official commander.) The major players all started bombings and major operations same day. So, how did the US came in late?

But lets forget about that.

Back to the question: what were the bases of the US involvement?
Foreign AffairsRe: Donald Trump: What Does The Mass Support For Him Suggests About The USA? by Appleyard(m): 12:17pm On Mar 19, 2016
anonymous6:
It never was and the sad part is many American youth believed it was especially in America after President Obama got elected, and boy they were fooled. Donald Trumps supporters are just the beginning and even if he doesn't get elected, Donald changed the playing field for how certain americans express themselves now when it comes to race, religion and etc.
I Agree with you. The awakening is becoming more and more pronounce. People are now coming out of their shells, and the sound of a revolution is brewing in the horizon. Whether Trump wins or not, the seed has been sown.
Foreign AffairsRe: Dominican Religious Groups Want U.S. Ambassador Remove Over Gay Propagation by Appleyard(m): 11:53am On Mar 19, 2016
The senior advocate of Satan turning the natural to the unnatural everywhere they go in the name of ''democra-zy.''
Foreign AffairsRe: Why The West Wanted Gaddafi Out by Appleyard(m): 11:39am On Mar 19, 2016
Missy89:
The article is a classic way conspiracy websites and loons tweak information and misrepresent it. Vice news actually filed a law suit to get that same email and did a piece on it 2 months ago.

Turns out Sidney Blumenthal was just a source for the state department when he was pursing his business interest in Libya and the email is one of many emails he sent to Hilary. The email was actually talking about what might be motivating Sarkozy for wanting to get rid of Qaddafi.


https://news.vice.com/article/libyan-oil-gold-and-qaddafi-the-strange-email-sidney-blumenthal-sent-hillary-clinton-in-2011


The piece talks about how the timeline of the memo makes it hard to believe and it was probably treated with skepticism by clinton's staff
I have one question for you, dear Missy. What were the bases for the American led invasion of Libya?
Foreign AffairsRe: Vladimir Putin Orders Russian Forces To Begin Withdrawing From Syria by Appleyard(m): 7:54pm On Mar 16, 2016
bonechamberlain:
u have said it all, the u.s has no option than to accept whatever the Syrians want thanks to the angel of reason "Putin". the Syrian representative in the negotiation has already stated clearly any discussion involving the removal of Assad during negotiations is a red line that must be crossed. they are becoming bolder by the day.
Exactly my point. Assad already negotiating from a position of strenght. I wonder why some of us just can't call things the way they are.
Foreign AffairsRe: Vladimir Putin Orders Russian Forces To Begin Withdrawing From Syria by Appleyard(m): 7:41pm On Mar 16, 2016
Tkester2:
My man finish them with hard core facts.

The trio of gay vedaxcool, transgendered missy89 and lunatic valeriansteel need to see this, maybe their dead brain cells will be jolted back to life.
Dear brother, there is always a way that seemed right unto a man, but the end thereof is destruction... So, shield your sword Souljah and Let sleeping dogs lie... Only time and events hereafter will prove all of us right or wrong! So chill, Soulja!
Foreign AffairsRe: Vladimir Putin Orders Russian Forces To Begin Withdrawing From Syria by Appleyard(m): 7:30pm On Mar 16, 2016
Tkester2:
Monkey, and how to know you have your dick right inside vedaxcool ass...

* Refuse to accept that Russia won the war of geopolitics in Syria, and when you are confronted with hard facts, shout PROPAGANDA!

* Blame Russia for the human casualties in Syria, and exculpate the FSA backed by the CIA from all murderous atrocities committed in Syria.

* Believe that Russia's military hardware's are cold war relics, and that the Russian military can hardly quell a street fight, and when Russia fires 26 cruise missiles refuse to accept their technological prowess, instead console yourself with the lies that they fell inside kunduz hospital.

* Be chamelonic in nature... believe initially that Russia cannot save Assad from the FSA, but when Russia does (prove it strength), turn the narrative to mean that Russia's economy is tanking.

* Go by the nairaland monicker of missy89 or vedaxool.

Idiocy is a gift to some people.
grin grin grin grin
Foreign AffairsRe: Vladimir Putin Orders Russian Forces To Begin Withdrawing From Syria by Appleyard(m): 1:11pm On Mar 16, 2016
ValerianSteel:
Appleyard c'mon man be soft on the lies goddammit.I know you guys love to manipulate the truth but dude stop the blatant lie.

You claim the Geneva talks is virtually based on Russia term shocked shocked

Why would a round table be to the favor of one party or is it only Russia that would be at the Geneva talks?

Take it easy with lies please.Just like Nigeria,Russia has technically defeated ISIS undecided
The earlier you and your Langley mother, Missy89 cheesy, stop being like Obasanjo (who love to hear the sound of his own voice than logical reasoning,) the better you will become, signore. No offence meant, pls!

Now, initially, when the Syrian crisis started, who was all over the place calling for a political solution to the crisis? Let me help you. It was Russia. But as usual, the United States of Abomination, Abomicity and Abomilocal government and it's western cronies didn't give a dime to what Russia was saying. They were hell bent on toppling Assad, and Russia can go to hell with it's interest. But when the Red Army, led by the archangel Putin, who stand before the right hand of Jah, "entered the dragon'' in Syria, with the wrath and fierceness of heaven, bombing CIA control rooms and their pet projects like the IS, Al Nustra front, so-called ''moderate rebels'' and many more of those sons of Cain begotten by the seed of the serpent; they suddenly and painfully realized that they weren't acting ''hollywitch movie.'' Since then, who started calling for peace? Again, i will help you. None other but the United States led west. The shameless demagogues were shocked to their bones as they could only watch on from the by-lines as the angry Bear smashes their entire investments to pieces, outflanked them and completely destroy all their diabolic designs towards Syria, and Russia in the actual sense. Since they have nothing else to do to deter the Kremlin, after the SU-24 scheme failed, they shamelessly and practically pleaded with Moscow to come to the negotiating table. I have lost count of how many trips and phone calls Kerry made to and fro the Moscow route like Satan looking for Job, just to convince Russia to come to the negotiating table. Now, ask yourself and be truthful: who will be negotiating from a position of strenght? Who will be setting the conditions under the rules of negotiations for peace to reign? Assad or the terrorists? If Assad, then who create the enabling environment and the resultant framework that has necessitated this ungoing negotiations? Was it the Russian intervention or the successes of the terrorists? If it's what am thinking, then, who is now the main driving force and the major determinant that should influence whatever decisions to be taking and conclusions reach in Geneva? The terrorists or Assad/Russia? I leave all these questions for you and to all unbias minds and apostles of truths like SirShymmex, Underground, Nairaminted, Zoharariel, Scully95, Cyrus000, bonechamberlain, and others to answer.

Even western ''ministries of truth'' like the NYT and others, have said the same thing. My brother, this is reality, not propaganda.

On Nigeria and Boko Haram, Russia and IS, you made sense, in the sense that, ''technical defeat'' is defeat in the actual sense of the word. When you see orgnizations like boko Haram and IS in Iraq and Syria resulting to suicide bombings like in Homs and Bagdad, as the primary means of attack and measurement of success, instead of the previous capturing and controlling of many territories; then know that they have taken serious beaten, and the use of suicide missions is a testament to their almost zero or increasing inabilily to capture and own territories like before. This is what is happening now in Nigeria, as Boko Haram can no longer boast of any territory in the north under their control like the previous time when they control over nine local governments. All they could do now is ''hit and run'', or plain suicide mission. Therefore, one can say, they have be ''technically defeated.'' But it will interest you to know that the US recently claim that Boko Haram are still holding lots of Local governments in Nigeria. But last i checked, even schools have resumed in previously occupied territories deep in the north. So whats the US driving at? Why are they still insisting on sending troops even when we have refused? To resurrect and continue their pet project, i guess!
On IS, though they continue to hold places in Syria and Iraq, there is no denying the fact that they have been hit hard by the tiny Russian intervention in Syria, and as well as the reselient push from the Iraqi army.

These are not lies but facts!
Foreign AffairsRe: Vladimir Putin Orders Russian Forces To Begin Withdrawing From Syria by Appleyard(m): 11:19am On Mar 16, 2016
scully95:
Just the perfect timing to exist syria officially and to set a good example for peace to rain again after five years. If i was a terrorist like Missy89 and the rest, I would even be tired of destroying syria after 5 years and this happened. But I assume the likes of these terrorists are pure fantics. Those that will kill just to fck 77 virgins in heaven by the Zionist-wahhabi-alliance sponsored brainwash, demonization of Islam.

Again a stand-up ovation for putin. man of his words. He said it right from the begining that the russian military entering syria is for a short time.

now this is putin saying a and doing a..

Other than that, now left for Saudi crooks and turkey (anglozionist Empire) to play their cards of taking over the north of syria..
Which I think Russia will intervain again but this time at the right time again when that happens.

Remember in the recent past that Russia threatened to use Nukes to detter the invasion of Turkey and Saudi..

That is not a threat.. Russia already has the card to play.

So, i smell nothing other than this move will make the Neocons think, Oh Russians have run and now we can continue our Assad must go campaign..

Even though they know that won't happen except again if the Syrians elect someone else.. There was an election last time and Assad won..
I'm very sure, if Assad contest again he will win.


Russia studies everything with aim and Objectives. The aim so far now is to make Syria a unified s. state which I am sure Russia will do everything possible to keep syria one. Remember, there is no regime change therefore Syria can still be one..

Now, it's glaring that the uniting force in Syria is Russia and it has created the atmpshere for the forces to unit and fight the outlawed zionist terrorists.
Again, very thoughtful and optimistic analysis. You see, the problem with most of our brethren at the other end of the divide is that, when they see A, they would call it Aa, instead of A. Most of them (except a few) love to live in self denial, being hateful of Russia, and as a result, they find themselves swimming with the devil in an avalanche of lies and delusion. If not, how on earth could someone possibly be applauding and supporting a country like the US known for sponsoring IS, Al Qaeda, etc? A country with the world largest conventional capabilities, who claim to be fighting IS, suddenly ''ran out of ammos'' and so could not take out IS oil convoy? And some people could still fall for such deception. I pray that someday, God will open the eyes of their understanding to see things as they are.

On the possibility of Turkey and Satan Arabia taken advantage of the Russian withdrawal to invade Syria, i think their militaries would not be that daft to undertake such pact. The reasons are not far fetched. The Russian withdrawal have set the stage for a favourable and enduring resolution of the crisis, for which Europe would be the greatest benefactor, as it would ease the migrant pressure on the European mainland and bring a sigh of relief to the various governments across the EU zone. Therefore, any foolish moves on the part of Turkey and Satan Arabia, that further escalate the crisis, would definitely trigger outrage from Europe, most of whose leaders are already publicly angry with Erdogan's take over of a major newspaper, and increasing totalitarianism. And should this happen, any action that would thereafter be taken by Russia, would be passively supported by some notable European powers like France and Germany, then Greece, who have not hidden their dislike for Turkey under sultan Erdogan.
Again, invading Syria would no longer be that easy. The Syrian army have now recieved alot of armament from both Russia and Iran, making the SAA plus Hezbolla and Iranian troops on the ground, more capable and dangerous than ever. There are rumours that the Russians are leaving behind some sets of the upgraded S-300Vs and other such armaments. And so, if Turkish birds (after the long self incaceration following the SU-24 brouhaha) are tempted to resume flights, then starts falling from the skies, i won't be surprise. Alot has change within six months. Plus the fact that such invasion would trigger sharp responses from the west itself, and untold retaliations from the Kremlin and Tehran. Believe me, it would be game over for them if they toe that pact now.
Secondary, the Russians must have considered and anticipated this possibility, and they know how Europe would react to such an outcome: and this would further lend credence to whatever actions they may have up their sleeves. That should explain why they are significantly moving equipments into Armenia, while at the same time, they have redirected many of their satellites in orbit over the Syria airspace to cover all of Syria.
It seems like a trap has been laid and the Bear is waiting to pounce.

Now, you can understand why i said i smell something.
Foreign AffairsRe: Vladimir Putin Orders Russian Forces To Begin Withdrawing From Syria by Appleyard(m): 9:08am On Mar 16, 2016
NairaMinted:
Appleyard,

I wanted to reply much earlier but this darn SPAMbot banned me.
As always, well said. At this rate I just might recommend you to my superiors for a position with the Russian Foreign Ministry!



Meanwhile Andre Fomine explains what Putin meant by "objectives achieved" in Syria after 5 and a half months:

"9K flights, thousands of targets hit. 400 towns and over 10,000 square kilometres of territory liberated by the #SAA. Latakia completely freed, communications with Aleppo restored. Palmyra under siege, control over its oil and gas fields reestablished, most of the provinces of Hama and Homs cleared, Kweires airbase unblocked. Intra-Syrian talks in Geneva launched. Casualties: 3."

Now compare it with the Coalition of the Dodgy Opportunists (CDO). tongue
Thanks Soulja! Of course, objectives, not just achieved, but overwhelmingly achieved. Something that the coalition of sin could not do for years, a tiny deployed Russian military asset did just within six months. Andre fomine was right, but what he didn't comprehend about Putin's statement on ''objectives achieved'' was that, as long as Russia exist on the world map, no PIPELINE would cross from the Middle East, and pass through Syria into the main heart of Europe, seeking to undermine Russia's economic leverage. This is the underlying meaning to what Putin meant by ''objectives achieved.'' It was a paradoxical statement enveloped in euphemism. The summation of the matter is that, no western designs that seeks to undermine Moscow's economic viability would be allowed in Syria, even if Assad is not there. That is what the intervention entails. Ukraine and Syria are Russia's RedLines no man must cross. The Russians have again made that clear. Cross them, and there would always be a sad song!

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