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agabusta:
Don't mind the hypocritical West. They are just looking for countries to rule indirectly in order to control their way of governance, control their international relations to others, control their economy, control their domestic issues, etc.

Any country that resists is given bad press. US will never beam their search lights on human right violations of their allies. E.g. Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia and it's Arab friends are the principal reasons the civil war in Yemen is being sustained. US and co will turn a blind eye to that, but will be eagle eyeing Russia everywhere.

Which is no big deal actually, because it has implications for their strategic interest as a country, it's just the hypocrisy involved in the double standards that is pathetic.

Very pathetic.

stanech:
There was a national crisis. Trump was the first to respond, at 4:30am. That means his people woke him up to let him know about the shooting - just like the President.
Trump immediately tweeted out his sympathy etc. Then hours later, started talking about solutions. That's leadership.
Meanwhile, Hillary didn't say anything until morning, and even started her message with "I just woke up to the news". Her aides didn't even bother waking her from yet another one of her long sleeps. That's not presidential behaviour.
The next day, Trump delivered the speech that Obama should have given.
And now, a few days later, Hillary and Obama are finally saying similar things to what Trump said on Sunday.
So you tell me, who the hell are they saying isn't Presidential? Surely the person who doesn't bother waking up, or the person who umms and errs through a statement of meaningless platitudes is not Presidential.

''Thou shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free..'' John 8:32.

When people put reality above sentiment, the truth will always gain a voice, even though its often locked up in the cupboard of falsehood. You have spoken the truth.

Keep it up, brother.

CFCman:
I'll propose a new constitutional amendment that will get rid of the Electoral College, and ensure that all (85% or more) votes cast in the general election count. The Electoral College is a relic of the 18th century which doesn't fit into the 21st century.

If US governors are directly elected by the popular vote, why can't American presidents be elected via the same method? The Electoral College system virtually suppresses turnout to an extent. For instance, there will be little or no motivation for Republicans to come out enmasse to vote for their party's nominee in November, ditto for Democrats in South Carolina.

My amendment would be thus:

28th Amendment
(1) A nominee for President of the United States shall be deemed as the winner of the Presidential election if he/she wins the most valid votes cast AND no less than 1/4 of the valid votes cast in 2/3 of the states and Washington, DC. [could be a combination of 33 states and DC or 34 states].

(2) If a winner doesn't emerge through sub-section 1, then the House of Reps and the Senate would cast ballots for president and vice president respectively.

My brother, I have been amazed over time why many people still don't see the slipshodly sham of a so-called electoral democracy been practice and imposed on the American people. I sometimes wonder how you can define a system to be ''democratic'' when it fundamentally undermines the basic principle of one citizen-one vote? A system that denies citizens in their capitals the right to have a voting representative in Congress. The flaws and behind-the-book nature of this system is even more pronounced when you realize that no modern democracy or any other country in the 21st century, like you rightly noted, is operating or has adopted this anti-people electoral model.

The system is a sham and anti-democratic. The likes of your recommendations are long overdue.

IdeeEsperanza:
The *****s know the winner.

You mean to say, the ''elites,'' right?

''Commandeered and landed safely''. Like Iran like Russia. Does Magrev technology rings a bell? Of course it does. What about Testla? Putin had already told Obama last year that ''the time of the Messiah has began,'' but for the crooked man he is, he will never take it serious....

When Russia took Crimea, a remarkable prophecy was fulfilled....

Pls read and be wise...

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1950.htm

but for those who are wired to die with their eyes wide open, nothing is ever real! No, not even their own reflection on the mirror. Its all conspiracy theories, and so they will continue to applaud the hawks of war and dance to the drumbeats of death, making a tinkling with their warped analytical feets of mendacity, mincing as they go through the valley of the silent ones, gyrating to the eerie but subtly camouflag rythm of the afterlife, totally oblivious to nature's call of duty and logical sense of reason, while basking in their delusive euphoria of unhinged democratic self-independence - the road to hell.

I repeat: self delusion is the worst form of mental disorder.

Believe it or not, the Clock is now one minute to midnight. May the matchless grace of Oghene deliver those western leaders and the many unaware brethren we have here from going down to that pit where there is no buttom. How i wish this wasn't happening in my time, but what will be, will be, and what had been, had already been.

Now we can only pray and hope for the best.

kinibigdeal:
Hmmm....Very convincing explanation's. But you know what my confusions are on this issue, if US are backing ISIS, why are they beheading American citizens and planting explosive device in US? You earlier talked about the disintegration of ISIS into two group, one backed by US and the other independent. How long can a group sustain such independence without any western intelligence backing? ISIS may be supported by US but the killing of their citizen is another debate. You and I are aware of the recent massacre.

I get your point. The killings Its all part of the show - the ruse war on terror - call it collateral damage. Americans like every other westerners had to be killed in order to instil the necessary fear and reality of terror, and also to give credibility to the notion of terror, and to woo the people's will and support as the legitimate ticket to perpetually continue in this endless act of war on terror, while using the opportunity to squeeze constitutional liberty, inter alia, by way of emergency legislation sequel to Martial law.

So, whenever you see or hear of such terror attacks, especially in America and in some places in the West, know that it might have happened with either by an express connivance of the government thereof (for the essence of what is called "false flag" operations,) or by an act of negligent conduct on their part.
This doesn't mean there are no authentic terror attacks, of course, there are; but its no secret that the government is also complicit in such acts either by covert malicious oversight or gross negligent intent. Take for instance the Boston Bombing before which, the US authorities were furnished with information by the Russian authorities regarding the extremist vhews and radical ideology of the two terrorists brothers, long before they carried out the devilish crime. But the American authorities simply refused to follow up on them. Either this was done intentionally or by the extreme case of pure negligence, as there was no other viable excuse that would have suggested otherwise. At the end, it gave the authorities more impetus to get more and more on the dèfence budget, to go out and attack and bomb one place to another in the name of terror which they created. We all know about the false flag of 9/11 and how they created the terror excuse to destroy Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. What about Libya? The ultimate winners at the end of the day, is the elite that owns and control the MIC, the oil multinationals and the banksters.

It will interest you to know that cracks are now appearing in the recent Florida Orlando gay-club killings. I watched in awe when an eye witness from the bar was telling ABC news live that ''there was a 2nd gunman by the door...,''
and as the eyewithness was explaining further, ABC news quickly cut off the conversation and switched to a different feed entirely that was not related to the case on ground. The question is: what were they trying to hide? :-O Now, there is the news of one of the SWAT team cops ''laughing in the background.'' Are you in a comic show or what? :-O

But when folks like us point out such anomalies like the ones above and similar cases like ''Sector 7'' going down on a free fall in 9/11, (which every building engineer has ruled impossible,) the Paris attack in Which one of the Criminals ''miraclelously'' left his ID Card behind, (even an armed robber will not go to a place of crime with his ID card on him, talkless of a professional murderer) in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo attacks, etc, some people who knows next to nothing or simply cannot deduce facts from fiction, will tag you a conspiracy theorist, which in itself is a term coined to derail the truth movement and discredit the credibility of the critical thinker.

My brother, as far as terrorism is concerned mostly in the US led West, the government is 75% complicit.

Stay bless.

Zoharariel:
There is credible intel that Amerika, Britain & France are covertly planning to draft soldiers from their ex-colonies to serve as cannon fodders in this inevitable war between the Empire of Chaos & Russia , just like they did in ww2.

GMB must maintain utmost neutrality in this divenely ordained war, else the blood of any Nigerian sacrificed in this war will be on his head.

The great questions of the time will be decided, not by speeches & resolutions but by iron & blood.

In the meantime, let the nuclear fallout between the Good & Evil begin. Not A Step Backwards - Go Russia!

Bad market. No single Nigerian or African soldier would go and die for Britain and its war chest. We haven't forgotten the diabolic British policy of Divide and Rule vis Indirect Rule that are still incapacitating our national life till date. (no thanks to our zombie and corrupt leaders.) And we have seen how these hypocrites really helped us during boko and ebola. So, i don't see how they would succeed in convincing us to be their canon folders. We go just sit down here they observe them committing suicide, and when the remaining ones would start running to Africa amidst the Nuclear holocaust, the Africans we also chase them back just the same way they are doing to us now.

This prophecy said it all...

"All that I have seen of war before is only child’s play compared to this one, and it will be ended with a nuclear atom bomb. The air will be so polluted that one cannot draw one’s breath. It will cover several continents, America, Japan, Australia and the wealthy nations. The water will be ruined (contaminated?). We can no longer till the soil. The result will be that only a remnant will remain. The remnant in the wealthy countries will try to flee to the poor countries, but they will be as hard on us as we were on them.

http://www.inthebeginning.com/articles/norway1968.htm

I just pity how this countries are gradually deploying to their own graves..

Pathetic... Man is a failed project.

kinibigdeal:
Let's agree with all you have said. What about a group called "Al-Nuara". Al-Nusra is said to be an affiliate of Alqueeda. Earlier this year we were told of the new affiliation between ISIS and Al-Nustra. Al-Nustra has two agenda, to force the syria forces backward and unleash terror on Americans. Who are this group actually, can we say its an affiliation of ISIS also backed by US? i still dont know why bahrain, jordan, qatar, saudi arabia, UAE and turkey are backing the ISIS?

Yes! Al Nusra is an Al Qaeda affiliate in Syria. It has and habors the same ideology like ISIS - to recreate and reestablished an islamic caliphate - but Al Nusra is more distinctively patient and methodological in character. While ISIS has declared its de facto islamic state/caliphate and tries to legitimate it by conquest, Al Nusra, on the other hand, has taken after Al Qaeda leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri's method of formenting a religious and social revolution by embedding itself within an indegeneous insurgency, and the Syrian brouhaha with so many of such groups, provided it the perfect environment to achieve this strategy and hence, its overall aims. And due to its subtlety and insidious nature, its therefore very threatening and more difficult to defeat than IS. It is no secret that the US is known to support many or both sides of a conflict, provided that its immediate or long term goals are or would be realized. That is exactly what is happening in Syria: funding both YPG and Al Nusra alike for the main objective -taking out Assad, even though this two groups are enemies on the field any day, any time.

As for the nations you mentioned, the aim of them backing ISIS in Syria, is twofold. To take out Assad and pave the way for their dream Mideast -Europe oil pipeline, which must pass through Syrian territory to come into fruition, since Iran, the alternate option, is already out of the question.
The other reason is the issue of Sunni vs Shia power and dominion tussle in the very heart of the MidEast. The likes of Turkey and Satan Arabia has invested so much to see a sunni dominated power house and influence, but unfortunately for them, the entrance of the Bear into the ''Damascus Dragon'' has completely thwarted and make desolate all their efforts.

But make no mistake about it: the last has not been heard from Syria. We can only hope for the best while expecting the worst. God help the MidEast.

Stay well.

kinibigdeal:
Maybe its a sarcasm though. But the confusion here is, if US is giving ISIS a tactical support, who are they bombing in Syria? is it the government forces or same ISIS they are financing. Who US is actually combating in Syria is not clear.

It is very clear, brother. For the US, the Islamic State is a means to an end, and an end to a means. The formation of IS was meant as an excuse to consolidate on the ruse ''war on terror,'' but the primary objective within was ''divide and conquer'' of blacklisted entities. This was very apparent in the revelations by formal US General, John Wesley Clark, on the US plan to take out 7 governments among which are Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Syria, etc; and the Islamic State was a part of that means to ensure the take out.

However, there is a problem that have arisen with the ranks of the IS. There are now groups who have become defiant to the central authority and has formed their own independent cliches, running their own activities and making decisions independently, outside the IS central authority, and hence, beyond the reach and control of the US and its western partners in crime. This is the reason you see the US who previously ''ran out of ammos'' to bomb IS oil tankers, suddenly finding some bombs to strike at Certain IS groups and taken out their leaders. Why? These are groups that have gone completely out of US control and pursueing their own objectives to the detriment of the overall US plan.

Therefore, whatever they are doing now against IS made a lot of sense. The IS they created and have refused to bomb ever since, is not the IS they are witnessing today. Uncle Sam is fast losing control, and the only way now is to go the Russian way.

Also bear in mind that the US have plans to break up Syria, using the so-called moderate rebels, But with an increasingly independent IS on ground, and with regime forces to deal with, on the other hand, that dream is becoming more unlikely. Thus, it makes sense in taken out or immobilizing one foe right now, and deal with the other later on. Its a very good strategy.

You will understand better the crux of the matter when both the US backed rebels approaching from Majib, and Russia backed Syrian army approaching from the south, would meet in Raqqa against IS for the final showdown.

It would be hell on earth.

crestedaguiyi:
Till Hillary becomes POTUS,I will call this dude crazy.

He edited the original post so don't be fooled

I have always believed in the cosmic orderliness of events. Pls, what was the first post like?

kinibigdeal:
I wonder how Putin is going to go about it. Christianity is a none violent religion, so how is he going to force Christianity into turkey through a none violence religion. It will be very difficult for Russia Alone to eliminate ISIS in syria since ISIS ve got tactical support from US, turkey and others

Lol. When he talked about bringing Christianity back into Turkey, that was purely out of sarcasm embedded in hyperbolism-an exaggeration on emphasis. When codedly reinterpreted, what he actually meant was that, Russia would make life more difficult for Turkey as much as Syria is concerned.

On the side of tackling ISIS, that is nothing to worry about, as already, much gain is been made by the Syrian government and Russia to overthrow the takfiris sons of Lucifer, and there is little the US and the likes of Turkey can do to help them right now. The Russia air campaign together with Hezbollah and Iranian special Ops, plus with the Desert Hawk forces on the ground, have ensured that all Turkish, Saudi aids/support and all western Weapon air-drops for IS, are so far ineffective and a waste of money, as they are being destroyed from time to time.

Raqqa is the last major stronghold of ISIS in Syria, and the SAA back by the Russian Airforce are already moving in to retake the city. When you see a body like IS resulting to suicide attacks as in Fallujah-Baghdad, and Aleppo-Damascus, then know that the game is getting over for them. This is more evident in the fact that they are no longer controlling much of the territories they previously captured before the Russian engagement.

The tables have turned, and its now in ''game over'' mode. Bye bye takfiris, freedom to Syria and peace to Europe.

Putin Warns Turkey: Leave Syria The Hell Alone

Brave Vladimir Putin told a delegation from the Ukrainian Orthodox Church that if Turkey does not stop funding and supporting ISIS in Syria, he will ‘bring Christianity back to Istanbul.’

‘Should Turkey not stop supporting ISIS, I will end the job that Tsar Nicholas II started.’

It is understood that Putin was referring to Tsar Nicholas II’s attempt during World War I to restore Constantinople (Istanbul) to the Christian world and protect Russian maritime security by liberating the Dardanelles and Bosphorus straits.
Putin also reiterated to the delegation that nothing could shake the blood alliance between Russia and Ukraine, despite the efforts of the UN and western media.

“Rising neo-fascism in Ukraine is like gangrene spreading across the European continent, and we, the people of the Russian Federation, are determined to stop this disease.”

‘ISIS was made in the USA, and I will destroy them’

Putin, a judo enthusiast who can bench 240, has been hitting the New World Order where it hurts, outgunning, outflanking and all-round out-manoeuvring the globalist cabal. He’s got them running scared, which is why they have gone into propaganda overdrive, pumping the mainstream media full of scare tactics, hyperbole, rumour mongering and downright lies in an attempt to distract the masses from what is really happening all around them.

The truth of the matter is that Putin is the only world leader defending Western culture and values in the face of violent and sustained attack.
Western governments are intent on implementing the New World Order agenda that relies on the destruction of traditional culture and values.
The New World Order ruling class have a tight grip over the mainstream media, as well as our food, water, and air supply, and they are actively dumbing down the masses. It is in their interests to destroy Western culture and values so they can usher us into the next phase of the New World Order master plan.

http://investmentwatchblog.com/putin-warns-turkey-leave-syria-the-hell-alone/

Meanwhile there are reports of Russia launching ballistic missilles against Al Nusra Front in Aleppo, but the real shocking report is that Russia has deploy Iskander Ballistic Missile Complex in Syria. This was first reported in March 27th.

@Nairaminted. Not everybody is buying that idea anymore. No matter how they would try to cajole Finland to join the alliance, it won't work out. The reason is; NATO and America's warlike atangonism of toward Russia, is becoming more and more apparent to even the most novice of foreign political followers. Their tool of color coded revolution is becoming archaic and easily noticeable this days.

Nothing is at it seems anymore.

scully95:
You hit the nail on the head as usual and what amazes me is these Eurocrats are all puppets. Watch the Neocons prop up another MH17 scary false-flag again, with pressure and see them all running and doing what vassals/puppets do the most.


Have you been following what is going on in France. It may be too early to judge but forget it, this is a colour revolution like and the target is Holande for refusing to act as Washington says particularly in Syria. France was suppose to carry out its bin laden scenario but went to Syria and bowed for Putin cos Putin was not going to stop.

Paris attacks were suppose to be its 9/11 but France bowed and washington got the message pretty clear. The message or body language being, we re not ready or going to confront Russia. because of Syria.

What's going on in France is Washington's reply as usual which controls all the non government organizations. Soros long time said this will happen to Europe since they have stop being a full puppet. Seems some of them are waking up to reality like you explained above.

Yeah! The events in France are something one shouldn't take for granted, but all the same, Hollande got it coming. When you lie with the Devil, be ready to be push down the bed, cos he is one who always want to have its way. The likes of Hollande who willingly chose to be puppet and took up side with American satanic foreign policy interest, as against European interest, despite knowing that the Ukrainian brouhaha wasn't provoked by Russia, is always likely to fail at some point, and for all i care, they can crash down to earth. If a powerhouse like France couldn't exert the exclusivity of its sovereignty in the wake of the Mistral ships debacle, then Politicians like Hollande have no business being in government Chambers, and he certainly deserved no pity, even though he wasn't quite a complete puppet.

But one thing is certain already: alot of people across the EU are waking up to reality, and in return, the various government is getting the pressure. You can fool all of the people some of the time, and you can also fool some of the people all of the time; but you can never fool all of the people all of the time.

European puppeteering and the cloak of American diabolic foreign policy enslavement, are being lifted and unveiled for what it is. The people can never be foolish all through. Thats why the human nature is always dynamic.

bonechamberlain:
it would soon be lifted by the time their economies starts dwindling as a result of their useless policies of always taking orders from Washington. others have been speaking in silence, now France has spoken openly expect others to follow suit.

Its already happening.

Missy89:
The sensational thread refuse to mention that there are 577 members in the french lower house. if 101 participated in the vote (less that one fifth) Who cares?

France’s lower house of parliament adopted a resolution Thursday calling for the European Union to lift its economic sanctions against Russia, though less than a fifth of the chamber participated in the vote.

Of the National Assembly’s 577 MPs, 101 voted. Fifty-five voted in favor and 44 were against the resolution, which argued that EU sanctions against Russia should not be renewed when they expire on July 31.


So in short, 522 MPs are not in favor.

The underlying fact here is that, Europe is increasingly becoming split between more hawkish and more
dovish countries regarding Russia. Sanctions hawks
including the UK, Nordic and Baltic countries want to
rollover curbs on the Russian energy, finance and
defence sectors that expire in July. At the same time, business communities in Germany, Italy, Greece and other countries in the European Union have publicly protested against the continuing sanctions. From Hungarian Viktor Orban, down to the very heart of some of the big boys themselves. They are begining to realise that thry have taken a very foolish and destabilizing pact against their own economy, for which the only victor is the US. Hence, many of them are now becoming more vocal and changing tacts on the sanctions.

Italian Prime Minister Renzi has made clear Italy’s
disagreement with the sanctions policy. Back in
December Italy managed to hold up the renewal of the
sanctions by a few days – a striking fact in itself. When
the EU Commission renewed the punitive measures for
6 months citing alleged unanimous agreement by EU
member states at ambassador level – Renzi reacted by
sacking Italy’s ambassador to the EU for failing to stand
up for Italy’s interests. Then the Italian Prime Minister
openly opposed North Stream 2 in an apparent attempt
to draw attention to the Germany’s hypocrisy in insisting other EU states maintain sanctions on Russia whilst forging closer economic links with Russia itself.
As a result, the relations between Merkel and Renzi have
hit rock bottom.

In France the government is coming under increasing
pressure from France’s powerful farm lobby. The Russian counter-sanctions have hit the producers of these products especially hard. French President Francois Hollande has recently called for sanctions on Russia to be lifted.

The introduction of EU sanctions against Russia and
countermeasures by Moscow may cost the French
economy several billion euros and about 160,000 jobs.
The Russian import ban has also contributed to the over-supply of milk and dairy products across the whole EU, with prices plunging to levels that are putting the entire European milk and dairy industry under severe strain. The result has been demonstrations by dairy farmers in France, Belgium and even normally quiet Britain. Denmark is calling for the sanctions to be lifted.

Danish Foreign Minister Kristian Jensen has said that it
was Ukraine not Russia which is not implementing Minsk II, and that sanctions on Russia will be lifted unless it does so.

Stefano Maullu, member of the European Parliament
from Italy, Group of the European People’s Party member, said that the EU and US policy against Russia did not bring any positive results. «The US and part of the EU member states expected to influence Russia’s internal political decisions by imposing the sanctions, but they failed. Moscow reacted by imposing their economic counter-measures and the situation stalled», the politician reminded. The European Union lost, at least for a certain time, one among its most relevant partners, he said.

All in all, the EU suffered 90 billion euro losses in 2014-2015. Russian Deputy Economic Development
Minister Alexey Likhachev has said that the anti-Russian
sanctions and counter measures cost the European Union up to 40 billion euro in 2014 and another 50 billion euro in 2015 as a result of Russia sanctions over the crisis in Ukraine.

Its now very clear and undisputable opposition to sanctions
is mounting across Europe. The opposition will achieve a critical mass pretty soon to make the punitive measures unsustainable. With all the pressure the US exerts, there are limits to what it can do in Europe.

With all the facts mentioned above, it is becoming clear that the issue of sanctions is a glaring example of exacerbating differences between the US and the EU as their interests and goals diverges.

Those are the facts.

This is just how you know when madness have taken over the mental compactment of men. When a man believe that he can win a nuclear war when there are so many ways the enemy can deliver its own, it goes further to show that fantasy have become a reality in the lives of some people. Unfortunately as it seem, people whose selfish dare devil behavioural fanfare can extinguish millions of lives on earth within minutes.

Its a real pity.

It would be interesting to see How the criminal prosecution would turn out, because, first; they don't even have a clearly defined evidence base upon which the investigation can rely on, simply because the "joker DSB inquiry" simply did not provide any. You are looking for a thief outside when you are hiding him inside your closet. I just dey laf..... And that bereavee Father who was asking Kerry for evidence to prove where the lunch came from, should have known before now that Kerry had already provided it:

"The Social Media"... Pathetic!

As for those unrepentant willing stooges of mendacity that lies in wait anticipating Russian Generals or Donbass Seperatists leaders to be hanged for a crime that even a blind man knew was a false flag desperately seeking cover-up, i say, tarry and be patient. Justice we surely come and you shall surely be proved tight, because, its ONLY A FOOL THAT WILL BELIEVE IN THE CHARADE CURRENTLY UNGOING.

Very pathetic.

NATO's war rhetorics and Russia's counter measures and threat of counter measures are stark reality of Cold War mentality. But the only thing that has always surprised me, is that, man has refused to learn from History. Repeating one folly over and over again.

Scully95 and Lucasbalo, pls let bygones be bygones and lets forge ahead in peace. It really doesnt matter who started it first. Lets just tackle the main issues and learn to tolerate one another's views.

bonechamberlain:
Don't forget also Gaddafi Libya had a gold backed currency whose central bank wasn't tied to the dollar. Which annoyed the evil banking cartel and their attack army (US) I don't know why the US and NATO hate a nation which they aren't in control of making success and prosperity. Now look at Libya. I bet u the evil commitef by the US would be paid I. Double on the day of reckoning.

So long as there are men, there will be wars. We can only hope for the better.

All we are hoping for is a reduction in escalation or threat levels.

Lucasbalo:
Thanks buddy. Nairaland suppose to be fun. I don't even hate the guy because I don't know him. Funny enough, we share the same last name.

You see? No need for you two beefing.

Poseidon000:
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Chai. Missy89 don see something for thid barack well well oo

Lucasbalo:
Because of you, I will shield my sword, but if he comes up with his cantankerous attitude, I reserve the right to defend myself.

Copy that. But i also believe he shield sword too, so no qualms.

NairaMinted:
I can see where your "hatred" of Amerika stems from. You are a direct victim of its unbridled hubris and arrogance. For me, seeing Ghadaffi - a head of state - killed in cold blood and like an animal on the streets of Libya greatly troubled and angered me. It was like I knew him personally. And what made it worse that our totally clueless ministry of foreign affairs approved of the NATO "intervention" in Libya! I just shook my head in disgust on how we (black people) just handed over our freedom and any say in any matter once again to an imperialistic force.

I can't quite remember when I had a paradigm shift about Amerika but I think it was around 2006/2007 that things really dawned on me and I guess being the kind of person I am, my spirit had always told me right from the earliest wars that I was old enough to follow and understand -i.e. 1991 gulf war - that things aren't as simple as they appear .

It was what NATO did to Libya that amplified the hatred. They successfully turned the country into a failed state.

Lucasbalo:
Thanks Appleyard. The guy started the nonsense by calling me names in Yoruba and he didn't know that I am fluent in Yoruba language. I replied him and the verbal war started . I ignored him for a long time and everything was cool. The latest one he started was a mention I did to Zoharariel who is my Crown prince. The guy Scully started calling me Omo Ale Jatijati which means bastard . Who takes that from someone that doesn't know. What's wrong with his life to be that angry. I unleashed on him because I grew up with bullies and you always stand up to bullies. I have been on nairaland for four years, it's only him and one other guy I ever have problems with and the other guy own had been over. He's called Missy and Valeriansteel all kind of dirty names in Yoruba . God bless them for taking that from him but I wouldn't. He wants me to denounce America which I will never do. I don't know what makes him so angry in life.

All the same, man, you and him still gat to chill like matured mind. Pls, you guys should try to reach a compromise.

Lucasbalo:
Agreed. People that rants about war can come to Chicago and I will love to take them to Englewood neighborhood on the south side of Chicago for 2 hrs and see how they will defecate on themselves. War is no funny and that's why I don't get involved on Nairaland. My good friend Missy had a big disagreement about war. She's all for it and I am against. Obama disappointed me big time about the Libya and Syria situation and God knows I love Obama. Like my wife said, you don't have everything in life. About Bush being in jail, I agree 100% with you.

On point Man, on point There is nothing more devastating than a betrayal of trust. Obama was a complete disapointment. First black man for that matter.

please Please Please. I am strongly advicing that you Scully95 and you Lucasbalo should please settle your rifts. The fact is that two of you are virtually saying the same, equally hating the war prone government, which is the real enemy, both domestic and foreign. The Government is our real enemy, whether here in Nigeria with the mad politicians who loot us dry, and the hypocritically crazy ones like Cameron, who provide the safe haven for this looted wealth. Not to mention the Ugly and blood sucking ones who we have In the White House and in the MIC, Lodon, etc who derives pleasures from wars upon wars.

So, anyhow you guys look at it, the government is the Main enemy, not Lucasbalo, Not Scully95, Not Nairaminted, Bot Missy89 or so.. The only thing is that we all have slightly different views and angles from which we see these things.


So, Please, am suggesting that YOU GUYS SHOULD SHILED SWORD, STOP THE NAME CALLING, CURSING AND THE INSULTS. Please, i beg of you guys. Is very Uncomely for adults to do.

I hope this should help kick start a new chapter in your discussions.

Thank you both for your anticipated cooperation.

Lucasbalo:
God bless you for your post and I am not patronizing you. My opposition to war comes from my youthful experience of growing up in a very bad section of Chicago north side ( Uptown ) when it was called Bucket of Blood. I saw few unnecessary killings. I have told stories about my two nephews who we grew up together. Both of them changed when they came back from Bush useless wars that almost bankrupt America. That's why I stay away from all the jingoistic people on Nairaland. I lost a close colleague who worked with Fitzgerald Investments on the 93 Floor of the North Twin Building. Like you said before, I have been robbed with a gun and I have been in an office in Miami where gunshots erupted all of a sudden. Believe me my brother, it's no fun. The worst hawkish leaders in America like Bush, Chenney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowiz will never send their children to war. In conclusion, war is ugly and God hates ugliness.

Thats the painful part of it all. Their kids would be cruising in the most expensive cars and jets, attend the best of schools, while they continue to send peoples children to die untimely and unnecessarily in wars that have no benefit for the innocent American people. There are times i honestly feels sorry for some Americans when they are discussing topics online. Though some are ignorant of the reality, but most know the truth about the system. And so when folks turn the hatred on them because of the evils of the government overseas, one can only feel sorry for them. I understand the situation better because, am also in similar position, just that ours here is economical rotteness. There are times i feel ashamed and sad to discuss certain issues because, as a man with a conscience, the Id1otic and devils castrated political demagogues we have as politicians have virtually turned and stigmatized every Nigerian with the name of thieves, due to their unbriddled levels of corruption and unparallelled financial misconduct. They have successfully given to us a name that was never ours by birth or christianization.

When i see the faces of some politicians on tvs, both Local and International, especially that son of Satan called Bush who decieved the American people on Iraq, i begin to question why God is such a merciful Being. Believe me, am glad am not God, otherwise, i would have send those satanist back to the hell where they are suppose to be.

Bunch of uncircumcised Bamboos. Bush should be in Prison for War Crimes and lies he told Americans. Winnntch..
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Lucasbalo:
Americans are not one issue voter. That's what people don't understand. You will never know the impacts of war until you have been in one. I belong to a Peace movement in Chicago and most of our members are veterans of past America wars. It's not a fantasy to be against war. It's easy to type on Nairaland about all war relevancy, but if you fought in a war for five minutes, your jingoistic attitude will change. Personally to me being scared about my two nephews, it's bad for America's economy. America greatness to me is not her military might but her economic might and diversity.

You can say that again. Some folks who have not even experience an armed robbery attack once in their life, will just jump online and start typing nonesense how NATO or a particular country would easily wipe out another with nukes and or with conventional might. The way they will say it will make you think you are watching playstation. One hasbara troll is even here now praying IS which is killing people everywhere, should win, just because they hate a particular or group of nations. Some where even rejoicing that planes are being shot down. My brother, i just don't understand how some people's mind and conscience look like.
I remember when the Boston Bomb attack took place, a Cousin of mine who lives in Spain posted in his Facebook Page, ''payback is a b!tch, smell it.'' Men, i was shocked, and when i rebuked him for such a heartless comment, (being that am his senior,) he got angry, after some exchange of words, and till today, whenever i message him, he doesn't reply back. The reason for his hatred for America was that, a friend of his was killed by US Drone strike. So, the hatred. Just as many of us may have one reason or the other to hate America or Russia, what my cousin and many more on both side fails to realize is that, as his late friend is innocent of such terror-like American attack, so too are the victims of the Bostom terror bombing. The end result is that, its the innocent that dies mostly - this side or that side. And when you applaud their death, you authomatically become a part of that crime. This isn't trying to be holy, but the fact.
This realization is why i mostly dodge war threads on Nairaland. The only point of plausibility to me is, where the likes of terrorists like ISIS or Boko Haram are concern, i can vouch for their quick termination because, any group or body killing both women and children, beheading and burning in acid, bombing both Christians and Muslims alike, is, or are not worthy of life and deserve no human sympathy. These are the set of people who i call ''offsprings of the Serpent Seed'', the greatest mystery in the Bible. These are human-animals with no natural humanely acceptable ideology. I support that they should be quickly exterminated before they plung the rest of us into extinction.

But again, civilians are the ones also mostly caught in the cross-hair, just as we are seeing in Syria now.

Thus, anyway you may look at it, war is man's worst enemy. But the fact that some revere in it, beat my comprehension.

Lucasbalo:
One war begot another. Let us say no more war. War is no fun. I am very anti war and that's my problem with the US leadership. Meddling in foreign problems. I almost lost two nephews of mine in George Bush useless wars of greed and vengeance. One of them relocated to Canada and took up Canadian citizenship. They are both physiologically scared for life. WAR IS NOT THE ANSWER.

100% right. Brother, there is nothing as ugly as a war. Only the little crisis we are seeing here in the Niger Delta, is like Satan has become a full blown human. How much more wars where fighter jets and ships are launching fire? God help us all.