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Like Venezuela, like Nigeria. While they have ran out of toilet papers, we are running short of tomatoes, courtsey of the 'tomatoe Ebola virus' currently destroying the crops. So, which one is better: absence of tissue or absence of tomatoes? After all, we have been improvising where there is no tissue, using water to watch yanch.

On electricity, have we not been cousins of darkness since Genesis One? So, any much difference here...?

Just wondering..

Missy89:
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Stop pretending as if you care about Ukraine. Russia is the one using her thugs and far eastern troops as cannon fodder in a foreign country. If Russia and her ass eaters are so concerned about Neo Nazis, they should start by rounding them up in Russia. Ukraine has a nazi government yet the new PM is a Jew.

Find a new talking point dude.

Keep your self-styled dignified advice to your club of mendacity. Am not a godless and inhuman delusionist like the bunch that makes up your camp that revere in terrorism and take pleasure in the fall of others.
Every sane person knows that the Ukraine as we know it is currently infested by neonazis, and referencing the new Prime Minister being a Jew, as a yardstick to denounce the reality, is myopic, and a blantant show of delusion. Netanyahoo being a Jew doesn't exhonorate him from crimes against humanity perpetrated against the people of Palestine. Take that as a compliment.

Russia's thugs as cannon folders? You're a crooked revisionist. It wasn't Russia's thugs that had been encicled and closed up many a time in the war front. It wasn't Russians that are running away from force conscriptions, and soldiers deserting their posts, crossing the borders and seeking refuge on the side of the enemy.
And last time i checked, it certainly wasn't your Russian thugs that has amounted to about 30 thousands in losses.

So, take time and be warned, my lady. For when you think you are right pointing a finger against someone, know that the rest are pointing back at you.

C ya.....

cyprus000:
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E be like you forget say them be incorrigible zombie.


Abeg, update me when you verify.
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No problem.

It is regretably lugubrous to have this kind of people running the government in Ukraine, just like we have here in Nigeria. The likes of Paruby are the worst things that can ever happen to any country. As for Savchenko, i will advise her to check her increasingly pronounced anger, cause she might just end up dead, like some who have dare show their anger and dislike towards the Nazi government in Kiev, which continue to use hapless Ukrainian soldiers and conscripts as cannon folders in the Donbass war fronts, even without adequate care. This has been the reason why the likes of Savchenko is visibly angry.

God help Ukraine.

Truely, we need to diversify our sources of energy if are to solve the problem of Nigerian epileptic power supply, and attract investors into the country.

cyprus000:
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Lol. you no Know US again!

Dem lyk to shove their stultifying construe down our throat as the real deal, when them want unleash their bullying skills.
The irony funny; Russia and china with potent and overt threat both on earth and space, no pose threat to their national security, na Iran and Syria way no know their left from right technologically na him pose threat to national security. Lol

Infact,na Syria own funny pass

BTW, you hear say the whimsical megalomaniac(wetin be the Babylon name again self) send battalions of em Jihadi foot soldiers from turkey enter Syria?
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Na wow for wire road o. Na Syria own even funny pass self... That alone should tell you the real deal behind that Executive Order. Yet, you have some apologist spouting venom, despite seeing the content of the Executive Order. The thing just dey surprise me for them o.

On the hegemonic unleashing of more wahabis into Syria through Turkey, is something that am still looking into. Meanwhile, there are reports that a Russian, Iranian and Chinese covert ground troops are to be deployed into Syria to strike IS from both air and from the ground. I really can't verify the part of China in this. A friend is telling me he is still trying to verify.

Till then, we can only keep our fingers crossed. But one thing is certain: the Syrian crisis is far from over.

bonechamberlain:
Am just wondering how the UK economy would look like if all looted funds by politicians are returned back to their various countries.

Don't mind the crooked nation.

ATERI:
Should we apply this to Nigeria? Or all Nigerians are happy to be in that federation today? You can`t go around and say because some people are dissatisfied with the status quo then the next thing is to quit the most successful economic and political bloc in the world. Let me leave you and your fellow Leavers with a question: since there is no country that has ever left the EU before, how can you lot be pontificating on what would happen to Britain after leaving the EU? Good morning!

Morning, brother.

I really don't remember pontificating on what would happen to Britain should it leave the EU. What i said was why some people felt that leaving the EU would be more better than staying put, and you and i have cited some reasons for or against leaving, taking into perspective the various divergent interest of the ''stay in'' and ''stay out'' groups. We haven't discoursed what will happens after an exit, and honestly, i don't know.

Yes, tying it down to Nigeria may be plausible, in the sense that, you have a scenario where some group of persons want to be freed out of the entity. But again, the two situations before us are totally different in the sense that, Nigeria is a Federation, the EU is not, but a Confederation. In a Federational system, sovereignty absolutely resides in the central authority, and agitation for complete independence therefrom, is called ''secession'', and which is, in most cases, not permitted, criminalized by the legal sanctity governing that entity; with war often being the end result. But in a Confederation, the opposite is the case. Absolute sovereignty does not reside in the confederal centre, like in Brussels [for the EU.) Rather, the member states thereof reserved the absolute right to accept, modified, codified or reject any directives or laws imposed by the confederal centre. They can also leave the body at anytime of their chosen.

Nevertheless, the only point of convergeance is in the area of Choice. The likes of Biafra as humans, reserved, by virtue of their humanity, the choice that they want to leave the entity called Nigeria, even though such right of Choice isn't recognized by the laws of the Federation. So too is Britain, having a choice to leave or stay in the EU, and such choice (unlike Biafra) is backed by the laws of the EU. Conversely, the fact that the UK is even going to hold a referandum to that effect, is significant of how crucial, how viable and important the VIEWS and CHOICE of a group of people or a Section of the populace could be.

The whole crux has always rest on the fulcrum of Choice and Freedom of Interpretation.

Every Dick and Harry before now, and even before the Panama papers came calling, knows that the UK is the hub of financial crimes, the world safe house for all forms of financial illegality you can immagine. Therefore, when that son of a thief called David Cameron told the world that Nigerian and Afghanistan are ''fantastically'' corrupt, it became clear to the logical mind that, there really is something positive in the semantic collocation of the term 'fantastic', as used by him. One may ask: was this really just bad taste or sarcassicm, ill-advised flippancy, or really a Freudian slip from the deep structure of British elitism? These questions are valid taking into consideration the views of some anti-corruption researchers that, the systematic transfer of funds to the UK from various parts of the developing world has been 'fantastic' for its economy. Yeah, thats rightly so.

The fact that one single former Nigerian military head of state, Abacha, siphoned up to $5bn out of the country and more than half of that amount infamously made its way to the UK and was subsequently laundered in five other Western countries, was perhaps 'fantastic' for many banks in the UK.
Of course public officers in Nigeria are amazingly corrupt. This perhaps is why Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari refused to throw a tantrum over the characterisation of his country and opted to hit Britain back where it could hurt, by responding that: "I am not demanding an apology from anybody, I am demanding a return of assets."
Now, even going by the commonly accepted Transparency International Corruption Index, Nigeria in 136th position out of 167 is statistically not one of the 'two most corrupt' countries in the world. Neither is Afghanistan. North Korea and Somalia occupies those two unenviable positions. Yet, Cameron made such a remark. It thus entails the logical irony that he was actually celebrating the corruption which is ''fantastic,'' as far as Britain is concern, because, it is always very good for its economy. And that is why once this monies get into the country, (despite knowing where it came from,) they then formulate financial policies and rules round the money as such that it get trapped within the financial walls of UK. That explain why up till date, Nigeria and other developing nations still are unable to recover most of the looted funds, like the Abacha loot; because it is ''fantastic'' for the criminal British economy.

It is no longer a mere assumption that this systematic funnelling of corrupt wealth pouring into the UK is deliberately designed - or deliberately tolerated and left unplugged. Furthermore the international mischief caused by tax havens and offshore banking jurisdictions - many of which are British-controlled - is finally common knowledge.
Britain remains "by far the most important part of the global offshore system of tax havens and secrecy jurisdictions". This has brought untold suffering to many nations and their financial fortunes.

David Cameron is a man whose father's name appeared on the Panama scandal regarding a fortune he profited from. Yet, he had the guts to assemble a global summit on corruption, even in the most corrupt financial capital; and the hypocritical audacity to label others as fantastically corrupt.

Hypocritical bigot!

What would be fantastic is David Cameron hastening the return of Nigeria's stolen wealth that Nigeria and other developing states have been asking for expedited action for decades now. Britain should first remove the mothe in its national eyes before accusing others for there own. Then we can take them serious.

Till then, Britain remains the most corrupt nation on the planet.

Missy89:
ValerianSteel, Lucasbalo, Appleyard , CFCman

Happy memorial day!

My Senorita, same to you. Thanks, and and enjoy the moment.

CFCman:
That's why the MSM and ALL establishment politicians - Republican and Democrat - are fighting him. In fact, Trump is only a RINO, he is largely running as an independent.

Also, if he had the backing of the elite, the likes of Speaker Ryan, the Bushes, Romney and other country club Repubs would have fawned over

And that's the reason the man keep getting popular among the people. Most of them are increasingly realizing this. Although he may actually belong to one group here or there, the fact remains that, for the first time in a very long time, a fair part of the Elites are afraid of someone, it seems. This has given more impetus to his supporters base. To verify this: lets assume the 'dark knights' tried to play a fast one on him by robbing him off the Repubs nomination. No doubt, the mayhem that would follow will be unprecedented. His popularity base has already ensured this. I wonder if the same can be said of Hillary, a pathological liar, who have been tried, tested, and found wanton-a criminal.

Whether they are both sides of the same coin or not, a Trump presidency (that will surely not be free from defects) will almost certainly be better for the global security order vis US Foreign Policy in the face of escalations and heart-pounding face-off and possible nuclear confrontations with arch rivals - China, Russia, etc. But a Hillary Kilton Presidency would further plung America into ecomomic waste and global nuclear threat. When you are given two compulsory evils, common sense dictates that you go for the lesser one, and readily available facts suggest that Hillary is not that lesser one, but the real crook herself. Here are some FACTS on her:

1. She is a pathological liar and lied almost about everything. She lied about the Irish peace process, her vote in favor of the Iraq war, her reason for illegally using a personal email server, that her family was dead broke when they left the White House, about landing under sniper fire in Bosnia, where Chelsea was on 9/11, who she was named after, Benghazi… and the list goes on. I am not an American, but Americans are human beings like i am, and they don’t need a liar-in-chief. They tried that already. It didn’t work.

2. Hillary Clinton was MIA when the 3am phone call came from Benghazi. What difference does it make? The life of four Americans – a huge difference. The Russian Reset? The lie that Russia ''invaded'' Ukraine on her watch, Again. And again. And again. Boko Haram? Hillary Clinton’s State Department refused to call it a terrorist organization. Is this the kind of president you want, my beloved Americans? I don't think so.

3. Heartless Hillary Clinton defended a child rapist, and laughed about it. If you don’t know this story, you need to Read all about it. I repeat. She defended a child rapist… and laughed about it.

4. Hillary Clinton accepted millions of Dollars from foreign governments. While serving as Secretary of State, The Clinton Foundation ( illegally) accepted boatloads of cash from countries that fund Hamas, harbor terrorists, suppress and stoned women, and regularly execute gays and lesbians. Conflict of interest much?

5. Though Obama endorsed Hillary Clinton, he may not have meant what he said about her being an “excellent choice” for President, considering his own track record. As an American, ask your friends if they’re better off now than they were six years ago. Ask your friends if they like the direction the country is headed. If they answer “yes,” then they might actually legitimately like Hillary. But if they want some serious hope and change, they can’t vote for more of the same.

6. Don't be decieved by her chameleonic show of solidarity with feminism. In reality, Hillary Clinton wants women to shut the hell up. At least all of the women who tried to come forward regarding her hubby’s sexual harassment, misogyny and overall perpetuation of “ rape culture“. She referred to these victims as “trailer trash” and even went so far as to threaten one of the victims in person.

7. This Kilton is not a champion of the middle class. Despite her campaign slogan, she is definitely not just like you and doesn't give a dime about American middle class. Hillary Clinton was married to a President, had a personal chef, flies in a environment polluting personal jet, has sent her daughter exclusively to private schools, and makes about $200K for every speaking engagement. That’s so you, right? And your middle-class neighbors – they’ve got a private jet out back, yeah?

8. Cold blooded murderer. This is a witch who openly boasted on public television about d murder and total destruction of Qaddafi and Libya, a country that serve no iota of threat to the US. But she revered in it and savour the moment by saying; ''we came, we saw, and he died.''

Talk about heartlessness and blood sucking psychopath...



I don't think Americans need this, but goodluck if they so wish.

CFCman:
They're wrong. Trump isn't part of any elite group

Perhaps thats the reason they'r all afraid of him.

Good for them. I have always stressed on the need for African nations to look inward and develop by way of mutual cooperation, maximization of available resources, development of skills and manpower, and sourcing for relative help from outside whenever the need arises. They don't have to be overwhelmingly reliant on the west for everything.

A man who steals a barn of yam and is encouraged to go back and steal more, because he finds a safe haven in the house of another man who keeps and provide shelter for the stolen yams. Now, the man that steals the yam is a thief, and the man who recieves and safeguard them for him, is even worse off than the thief himself, because, he did not only encourage the thief to do more, but also profited from it by way of legal and illegal means.
Legal means, in the sense that, he make returns in form of taxes as such funds are invested and reinvested. Illegal means is, after knowing that the funds are stolen funds, they immediately create legislations or formulate financial policies that would ensure that such money can never leave the country again.

This why we still see our government lobbying British and American governments to release our stolen funds in their respective nations. Yet, they claim to be concerned with corruption. Pathetic.

A shameless man like David Cameron can afford to call a corrupt Nigeria to be a ''fantastically corrupt'' country, yet, its President has been begging you to give back its looted funds in British banks; needless to say that this is the same man whose father's name appeared in the Panama Papers offshore corruption scandal.

Hypocrisy at its peak!


I can't wait for the Avengers to send their companies running out of the region. Bunch of Satanic hypocrites!

ATERI:
My brother, I don`t analyse issues based on what other people say; you have given me the link to what those that want to leave the EU said, well, their views are not that important because they advance the positions that suit their gposition is neutral based on my experi. Austria was the first country to be sanctioned by the EU for bringing neo-nazi into mainstream politics in 2000. The argument of Jorgen Haider then was based on foreigners taking over Austria, and he got 3% in the polls.
I respect that mti-EU newspapers in London, along with the Mail, Sun and the Daily Telegraph.
All lovers of Russia want the EU to die, because they are angry about EU enlargement and what they see as an encroachment on Russia`s sphere of influence when EU allowed countries from Eastern Europe to join the EU. Well, I`m a lover of Russia but also a lover of Europe.

My dear brother, our views and perceptions are mostly informed by our inclinations to, and the inbibing of or comformity to the various forms of social stratification - the various elements of cultural background, belief system, political and social orientation, and their subsequent views. The way some conservative or liberal Brits will view some aspects of economic or political issues, based on certain standards of socio-cultural and political socialization, may never be the same way some Germans or French would view same issues in a given similar situation and conditions. As such, the thoughts and disparity in views of such groups, will always make up part of the broader picture, and so, its relevant and must be employed in formulating and determining a viable opinion and decision making, by modes of critical appraisal.

Yeah, Germany and France are the life wire of the EU, and going down the road like Britain, just like you said, its not feaseable for the time being. Nevertheless, the fact remains that there exist an avanlanche of 'disgruntled elements' based on some readily available issues within the internal 'liberal or conservative democratic' cultural settings of some of this independent states that makes up the EU.

It will interest you to know that, though France being a pillar of the EU project, and one that, under normal circumstances, should help keep the bloc in one piece and encourage its enlargement further into Europe, yet, in a recent survey of French respondents shows that more than 40% of French people are keener for Britain to leave the EU than any other nationality in the bloc. And the survey also shows that alot more than this percentage also want their own exit referandum.

What am trying to say here is that (just like i said earlier,) the idea behind the formation of the EU was never in doubt, but there are those within the bloc who felt that there is more to lose than to gain in the union, and recent happenings such as the migrant issues, security challenges, inter alia, has added more fuel to the already heating furnace. This is exactly why the bloc is facing this kind of challenge in form of 'Brexit' right now. And even if Brexit fails today, it still won't make much difference for the bloc, because the precedent has already been created, and some more states will definitly follow this same pact in the near future, and which would only entails the cracks in the Union. For there is no substitute for what people feels or see as 'freedom' and 'choice.' Political and economic views may, and do evolves, and people may go along: but by the time people begin to see or felt that such evolvement is gradably encroaching into what they might have interpreted and inbibed from time immemorial as 'freedom' or 'choice,' they will then classify it as a 'threat,' and before you say 'Jack,' the discomfort and resentment ante has gone up the ladder, and then the pushback begins. This is exactly the situation in Britain right now, with similar virus developing elsewhere, as it seems. This have nothing to do with people loving Russia and wanting the EU to break up. Western Europe was never the helm of Russia's sphere of influence, aside the East. The EU was in cordial relationship with the Kremlin since eons, until Amerika came to severe the cord following the Coup in Ukraine and the subsequent NATO up thick in provocasion in the Eastern fronts.
And this is just another reason why so many accross the bloc are increasingly getting uneasy being in it. To them (and is rightly so) the EU made itself a willing bunch of vassals in the hands of America poker game diabolic interest, instead of its own interest. For Europe need Russia than the US needs it, and has more tn lose than US would; and that is a fact. But it decide d to play the puppet, and not so many a people in the bloc likes that. Little wonder you have such huge French people wanting the Brits (US chief conspirator) out of the EU.

It never has anything to do with hatred for the EU and love for Russia. The crux is: there is no substitute for CHOICE.

cyprus000:
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Well and cogently put, Apple.

You can say the highlighted again

"oBarMan" made Executive Oder plate of hotdog, straight from the"Barak" of idiocy.

Sincerely speaking. I feel debased knowing that the aberrant caricature of nature(obarman), is of African descent. I mean, the blood-sucking Babylon can be aptly described as a vile refuse of all good, The dreg of this world.
Infact, I don't want to talk about the narcissistic, malicious malodorous manifestation of contraceptive persona

I personal do not agree with Iran on many front, but it's paramount that i point out US hypocrisy, cos I hate hypocrites.

Us demonizing Iran/Syria only unravels it hypocrisy, cos it is same US in collabo with Israel attacked Iran nuclear program and institutions with one of the most deadly malware ever known, in 2011/2012.
nobody cried foul, nor disturb world peace.
have anybody taken time to ask how amelika was able to shut down internet in north Korea after the Sony hullabaloo?
IRONY: if I slap you, don't dare slap me back bcs I'm America. The empty chest beater.

Damn! Talk about labyrinth of everlasting cowardice.
Too quick to beat dry chest, but fast to cry foul lyk a cornered hyena when her monumental failures gets exposed.


BTW, you dun talk am finish with the quoted




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my brother. The whole thing don tire me self.. I just dont understand some people. Wetin be Information Technology again na? Oya make dem tell me how common Iran and Syria IT take be THREAT to the NATIONAL SECURITY of a whole Superpower Like the US; them no fit answer am o.. And how e take be threat to their Foreign Policy, them no fit talk o... Yet, them no go accept the reality, the obvious.

Now wow o...

ATERI:
Perception is often different from reality.

The Franco-German alliance has always determined the direction of travel of the European Union, and as long as these two countries are in favour of the European project, there is no need to panic. We are talking of Brexit and Grexit today because of the domestic politics of the United Kingdom and the disloyalty of British politicians to the European project. There wouldn`t have been a USA, had America conducted a referendum in the South before independence
Germany, France, Italy, The Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg were the founding fathers of what we call the European Union today. It was when Britain became a basket case in the 70s that she applied for membership. Britain Joined the EU that was determined to stop wars on the continent of Europe by all means. And that is one of the achievements of the EU that, for the first time since the days of the Roman Empire, Europe has gone on for 70 years without a world war..
The relevant question is this: why is it that the issues that have brought about the emergence of Donald Trump in America are almost the same issues arresting minds in the EU- immigration, income inequality, widening gap between rich and poor, countries dominated by the 1%, politicians that are out of touch etc?. I have a theory.
The emergence of China as an economic power and the manner of that emergence have convinced the West of the need to do things differently. One of the things they are determined to do is to impose suffocating austerity on their citizens in order to balance their budgets. But suddenly, disaster struck in 2008, as global economy nearly collapsed. Now these two developments have hit the poor severely, but not the people that caused the problem. And apart from the criminal bombing of Libya and Syria, that have forced many to flee, there is the economic model that the West has been imposing on the world, economic model that robs the poor of their dignity while the rich and the powerful swim in luxury. So it`s the chicken of an unfair world order that have come home to roost- has llittle or nothing to do with the European Union.
How many countries are worse off today than when they joined the EU? The criteria set for membership have allowed countries like Portugal and Ireland to carry out meaningful reforms that transformed their countries greatly.
People say those from Poland have taken over their jobs. In London, Tony Blair came to power in 1997 after his Labour Party had been out of power for almost two decades; Blair vowed to keep the opposition (The Conservative Party) out of power for ever. One way of doing that was to allow East Europeans to come in large number, why should we blame the EU for that? Romanians do the work Brits would not do, Moroccans rent the rooms the Dutch won`t sleep in. And in Belgium, business is only good at the corner shop, because of the Croats . The countries that have more, share with those that have little or nothing. You can`t just trade, you must allow free movement of traders/people. If paternity leave is good in Sweden, it must be good in Slovakia.That is what the European Union is all about, but this poses a big challenge to those that are looking for agency workers with no rights or ones on zero-hour contracts. A social Europe is only a problem for those that do not believe in society.

Outstanding analysis. And thats looking at it from another angle. However, there are reasons, just like the ones i said earlier, that are causing people to be increasingly uneasy with the current EU setting. Below is a link to a factual and critical review debunking the various myths and theories making the rounds on how Britain would suffer should Brexit succeeds. It gives more insight concerning some of the reasons why the cry of 'exit' is increasingly finding voices among many people.

Just take the time to go through it.

http://www.betteroffout.net/the-case/10-eu-myths-about-withdrawl/

Missy89:
There

I still want to see the tech thou

Oh! Its that one the US says it threatens its National Security and Foreign Policy, you know ... Anyway, for further explanation, you can still meet me at the South-South zonal branch of the Zoharariel Spiritual Cleansing and Reconfiguration Centre, located at Airport Road, Warri, Delta State.

I will be waiting, sweet heart...

Missy89:
Hopefully your Magrav tech will save the day.

I believe in you

Yeah. Especially the one that captured your most secretive and advance stealth drone, sunk your Carrier, etc. Pls, won't you give me a kiss for being so devoted to your well being? ;-) You know you are my favorite, senorita..B-)

patches689:
Crooked Hillary wont win.

Trump is allready stumping her (check the latest polls - he made up 15 points on her)

The wall will be built.

America will be great again.

I can't wait for the general elections to begin. Trump is going to make a mince meat off her...

blueAgent:
Don't allow the media to decieve you. Trump is not half the person the media are painting him to be.
secondly Hilary and her husband passed laws,that incarcerated many blacks.and she also made some terrible remarks about blacks been gang bangers and so on

You are very correct. Anyone who feels that Trump is more of a racist than the Clintons, is living the painting by the media.

End time pregnancy! Mugabe must hear this.

mazeltov:
you just spoke my mind!!! I purposely opened the thread in order to enlighten some people.
In an event of nuclear war, the game Will alway be lose-lose. Why? The level of economic integration (globalization) in the world today is just so co-dependence. lolzzz Even America still depends on Russia jet engine to explore the space and we are here on nairaland quarelling over what will never happan.
Well, i also used to romance 3rd world war fantasy until I later realised that there can never be anything like nuclear war again!!

Exactly my point. The fact is, a lot of people dont even realise what they're wishing for when envisaging war between Russia and NATO/US. They believed, just like they watch in movies, that one side would just overrun the other, and that would be it.
Believe me, brother, anybody who tells you that you can defend against thousands of Nukes and other life exterminating weaponries, like biological ones, as concieved by man's ingenuity, know that such person doesn't like you as a human being; and is probably tired of the world he lives in.

Until the bunch of us and the sick politicians we have in the developed world realise that there is no nuclear war that will be winable, we will continue to descend down the abyss of doom; even as the Doom's Day Clock keep ticking close to Midnight.

I tell you the truth: man is a failed project. We have failed the Earth.

seagulsntrawler:
Excellent analysis! Can't have put it better than that. Perhaps, Grexit should be on board soon going by what the Greece people suffered in the hands of the zionist, neocon scumbags.

Yeah. You never can say never. Besides, Greece is almost certain to default on its debts. A Grexit is a possibility.

Zoharariel:
The analysis of this NATO commander is so flawed. So in an all-out between the coalition forces of NATO & Russia; what would China, Iran & India be doing? Fold their arms & become circus spectators?

Shall we stop this dick-measuring contest & just declare ww3 open since NATO resources are ten-times more than that of Russia and let's see which of the axis remain standing after 2weeks?

And since Bill Gate's agenda 21 & eugenics is covertly scheming to cut the world population by 15% by all means necessary, this could as well mean killing 2birds with a stone.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fh8tE_hbdM

You see, i try my possible best to avoid threads like this, especially when the comparison is about NATO vs Russia. It is a pity that at this modern age of wickedness we are living in, some folks still believe that there can be a conventional war between NATO and Russia, and that's the wishful thinking that beggers would never consider, even as they wish a horse to ride.

How they so much cherish the idea of a 25- nation team taken on one nation. Just how sweet the bean counting its to them ... All of which must happen in their CONVENTIONAL fantasy....

Well, its always best to live a dreamer to dream its own dream. Thus, Sir Richard Shirref should be left to dream..

seagulsntrawler:
The wheels are gradually coming off and the empire of chaos is running around like a headless chicken and issuing threats to Brexiter in the UK. At first it was O-bomber, then followed by the deranged hag and laggard named Christine, of the moribund IMF, some weeks later.
The logic is that the countries in the EU are easier to manipulate, collectively as a group in Washington's suicidal war of aggression against the rest of the world.

I can't agree less. The idea behind the EU is nothing short of economic wealth, political integration and creating an enabling environment for mutual cooperation. However, Europeans are people that loves and cherish their freedom and choice so much, that they're not willing to trade places for it, and the crux of this ungoing ''exit'' problem lies in the seemingly attempt to deny them of that very choice; and one of such problem is the immigrational arrangement under the Schengen free movement zone. By this arrangement, a lot of Eastern Europeans have been able to take up jobs in the West side, straining the healthcare, insurance and social security schemes of the host nations, to the detriment of its own citizens.
The recent and still ungoing migrant crisis further exercabated the whole process, as it brought into perpective the security challanges of 'open borders.' This aspect of security is perhaps the greatest challenge, as a lot of people are of the opinion that the European Union settings eroded or is interfering with sovereignty in certain vital areas that requires state independent decision making and foreign policy formulation alone. For instance, nations like Germany, France, Poland, Ireland, etc, which have much to lose in terms of market and product sales, in the wake of sanctions and counter sanctions with Russia, have no choice but to comply; since only a consensus can make the sanctions work. In other words, such nations make the choice against their own interest, but to the ultimate interest of the US and Britain. This is another reason why many in France and in the UK (and even in Germany) are now calling for an exit; for they come to realize that their goverments have lost or is fast loosing sovereignty, rather, acting as willing puppets to further the course of the others who have barely or nothing to lose.

NairaMinted:
Apparently, it is only former Soviet bloc states such as the Baltic States, Poland and Ukraine that long to belong to the E.U.. The populace of western Europe it seems have had enough.

Of course, its only them. And as it is, things are getting to the brim.

giles14:
I don't think so cos even d Russians are also modernizing and awakening some of dere old beast frm subs to battle field kit and equipment.


the USA military have access to the media which is a great propaganda tool.


don't forget about the Russians show-off in Syria which the US is trying to downplay.....


d only edges the US have over the Russians are jst media n a strong economy

Na only God go bless you for this rare truth you tell that my pikin. them think say war na film..

Zoharariel:
Goddamnit! Aside from Magrav, does Iran possess any other known technology that could be used to monitor, track & disrupt computer networks, as clearly stated in the executive order?

Where is ATkester when you need him?

No, they have other ones: catapults and stones, + witchcraft..

ValerianSteel:
@AppleYard.

The Executive Order doesn't explicate on what the technology is and therefore doesn't suggest it is your Magrav technology in question.

Please note the President of the United States issues Presidential Decisions Directives for matters relating to National Security.These are not made public.There's no way Obama would ban a supposedly dangerous technology that threatens US national security through an executive order.It is not done,the President issues a Presidential Decisions Directive on matters of foreign policy,defense,and national security.The contents of these directives are never made public.

If Obama was intent on banning your supposed Magrav,he would have placed sanctions regarding it on Iran and Syria which would hamper the spread or popularity of such technology.

If your Magrav exists and truly threatens American technological superpower,America would have stopped it in its track.In the event it can't be curtailed,the United States military would have developed a counter technology,the past five years would have been enough time to do that.

You keep showing your ignorance. Did the Executive Order mentioned Iranian and Syrian Information technology as Threat to the US national security, or not? Was it equally mentioned as a threat to American Foreign Policy. or not? And how the heck thus Iranian and Syrian Televisions, Radios, Gadgets, Websites, Blogs, etc etc, became a threat to US national security and foreign policy? Answer that!
How was Iran able to Disrupt, Commandeer, and captured (not shot down) the most sophistticated Stealth drone the US has ever built? Oh, they did it by wicthcraft or African technology passed on to them by Valeriansteel, right?


Stopping it my foot! It was the counter measure they were testing against the French version in an excercise last year, when that large for nothing floating ballon called Theodore Roosevelt Carrier was sunk, along with its accompanying fleights, by a 30 year old submarine. I guess it was catapult and stones they used in sinking it.

I just dey look una dey laf....

It is only God that will help some of you guys see the light again.

Until some of us realize that jingoistic propaganda can never take the place of truth when reality sets in, we will continue to wallow in its cheap waters, thinking we are ingrained with knowledge, alas basking in self delusion.

Until you have answers to the above glaring facts, stop bothering yourself on this topic.


Remain blesss.

ValerianSteel:
Proof of this from an independent or vetted source please not those anti-American hate club links you post here.

You claim Magrav technology has been in use since 2011 yet United States warships swim into Russian backyard waving the American flag past Russian dilapidated naval base.

Simple logic and reasoning eludes you.

In the Land of the Blinds, the one-eyed man is king, but when that same man is led by propaganda, the fall of his folly is more akin to a resounding night bang in a cementary. Reason: the blind man is only blind to the daylight, but his mental disposition and judgemental correctness by virtue of his inate sensual and instinctive credibility, enables him to form a viable conclusion; unlike the one-eyed man whose eyes and mind is clouded by a mist of egocentric delusion, elucidating a venom-filled puerile jingoistic mendacity, the hallmark of zombie-ism.

Its such unfortunate that a whole bunch of your likes falls under this category. Though they seeth, but yet blinded, by virtue of their propagandized minds thats been invaded and conquered by the darkness of mendacity. And how great is that darkness.... Pathetic.

Here is your "oBarMan" made Executive Oder plate of hotdog, straight from the"Barak" of idiocy.

"EXECUTIVE ORDER- - - - - - -BLOCKING THE PROPERTY AND SUSPENDING ENTRY INTO THE UNITED STATES OF CERTAIN PERSONS WITH RESPECT TO GRAVE HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES BY THE GOVERNMENTS OF IRAN AND SYRIAv VIA INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY By the authority vested in me.."

Now let us break this baby down into some pieces of reality and intent.

Why were the governments of Iran and Syria singled out in this shameless order? Did i hear you say "human right abuses? Now and even before now, some of the most democratic, diverse culturally intergrated and religious tolerating and peaceful nations in the Mid East, are Iran and Syria. These two nations embodies the factual reality of a heterogeneous society where all manners and forms of religion and culture are harmoniously coexisting side by side, in peace and unity. There are even more christians and non muslims in Iran than you can get in Israel. So, how does this states abuses the frundamental rights of people in their domain? If these states are abusers of human rights, where should we put Satan Arabia, the only country in the world today wherein women are stoned to death, hanged and publicly tortured, for the smallest of offencess? Yet they are not in the United States of Torture black book? Well, how would they be, birds of the same feather they say, flock together. Therefore sweep that silly excuse into the dust bin.

Now, it is interesting to note that this countires, as mentioned in the ban, are alledged to be perpetuating this so-called abuse by the use of Information Technology one may think that the Order was targeting.

Now come to think of it. When it comes to mass media and communication capability such as, Tvs, radio, the internet - blogs and websites, socail medias (ingredients of color revolutions,) the likes of Iran and Syria and still 100 years behind. I dont even need to mentioned satellites because it would be an insult to the sky rulers. How does Iranian and Syrian communication and Information technology abuses human rights and causes problem for others? And even if we are to go by this, a more sophisticated and far reaching advanced threats like Russia and -China are holding sway accross the US. Why Iran and Syria? One may think it is all about Information Technology, but a cursory look and critical perusal, reading in between the lines and indept nature of the Executive Order, would reveal otherswise.

"I, BARACK OBAMA, President ofthe United States of America, hereby determine that the commission of serious human rights abuses against the people of Iran and Syria by their governments, facilitated by computer and network disruption, monitoring, and tracking by those governments,and abetted by entities in Iran and Syria that are complicit in their governments’ malign use of technology for those purposes, threaten the nationalsecurity and foreign policy of the United States.

This really got me laughing...

"Computer and network, "monitoring and tracking". So, since when does Iran and Syria Radios and TVs started monitoring and threatening its own people, needless to say Americans? It was the next line that further reveals the real intent of this executive order:

"their government mialign use of technologies (no longer informational) that threatens the NATIONAL SECURITY AND FOREIGN POLICY OF THE US".

Is anybody listening?

So Iranian and Syrian "information technology" - Televisions, Radios, Blogs, Websites, telephones, etc, have become a threat to US national security? BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Zoharariel must hear this.

And as if that is not enough, the said Information Technology wont also let them shape and undertake the US foreign policy the way they would want it? heheheheh Cyprus000 must hear this, tag it, and fax it to the Kremlin. This is the latest threat to any country now: Televisions and Radios, websites and blogs, greater than atomic weapons. Pathetic.

But yeah. they were right! Iran actually "monitored, tracked, "computerized, Disrupted and took Control of the most advanced US Stealth drone, the RQ 170 Sentinel, from control of your vassals that sent it from Afghanistan, in December 2011: And they made their own copy of the highly secretive drone by way of reverse engineering. All courtsey of magrav,..and which rumores making the rounds suggest that it was also being passed down to Assad as well. And it makes more sense, considering Syria was virtually added to the list. And that is exactly what this Executive Order its all about. Except you and your Langley Mother of self denial can explain to me how Iranian Televisions and Radios, gadgets and internet, constitute a threat to US national security and its foreign policy. And you must explain to me what the likes of RT and CCTV are still doung in the US information market, if really such is the new threat right now. It is only a kid and illogical thinker that would have expected the Dratfer of the Order to put magrav down in black and white. But for those who can decode the intent by unravelling the logic behind the ban and the facts on ground, are those that rightly know the aims and objective of the "covert" Bill.

Propaganda is truelly a disease thats worse than ALS.

Now we know who reason and logic eludes.

And this is from the original: White Horse Sousse


https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/04/23/executive-order-blocking-property-and-suspending-entry-united-states-cer?_e_pi_=7%2CPAGE_ID10%2C1885066355


I dont even need to comment on your US ships sailing past the black sea since 2011: Is like expecting China that have nukes to sink US ships sailing the South China sea, simply because they are enemies.

Have a nice day.

Missy89:
Lol but neocons are no longer in power. Get you conspiracy straight

You think your puppet President is the one pulling the strings here, then you are still living in the stone age...