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Mr Troll: let me break it down for you...
You asked a loaded question: where do good and bad people go when they die? That is already an assumption that they go somewhere I.e heaven or hell in your case. What I'm asking you is to provide evidence, empirical evidence that:
1) We have a separate soul
2) There's an after death place called heaven or hell where your supposed soul goes to.

Until you do that, I won't take you serious.

I want to believe that at one point or the other we have come across those nollywood movies where the fellow dies and the spirit comes out of the body and starts roaming about, if I'm not mistaken I think "Bill cosby" acted something like that. You can call that imagination but I tell you those movie guys are almost close to the real thing.

Matthew 10:28, "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul; but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Genesis 2:7 : "The Lord God formed man of
the dust of the ground, and breathed into his
nostrils the breath of life; and man became a
living soul.

Matthew 16:26 : "For what is a
man profited, if he shall gain the
whole world, and lose his own
soul".

Psalm 42:1 As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God.

When we die our earthly bodies goes back to the ground as dusts but our souls becomes answerable to God.

Hebrews9:27-28 Just as people are destined to die once,
and after that to face judgment, 28 so Christ
was sacrificed once to take away the sins of
many; and he will appear a second time, not to
bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who
are waiting for him.

The earthly court of law is just a replica of the heavenly court, God is a man of justice and he pays everyman according to his works.

Galatians 6:7 ASV
American Standard Version
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for
whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also
reap. How ever this relates to the earthly law of karma.

Ray McBlue: @Appliedmaths, your body decomposes (or is cremated), and goes back to the earth. That’s all.

A lot of people find that depressing and use that as a reason for believing in god, but they’re confusing their desires with reality.

What you believe does not change what happens after you die. If god does not exist, then there is no afterlife, and that’s just the way it is.

So you're trying to tell me that both the good and the bad end up the same way?, so why be moral? , why complain about injustice and corruption? If evil and good can't be separated after life then why should I suffer my self in trying to moral?. Why do we complain about boko-haram,corrupt politicians,kidnappers etc, if evil and good can't be separated here on earth wouldn't it be logical for "KARMA" to meet up with both evil and good after life?.



The bible says in Psalm 14:1
that “Only a fool will say in his heart that
there is no God”. It again ... This scripture
suggest scoffers' idiosyncrasy of the Earth
reinventing itself with no end.

NB: I'm not calling/saying anyone here is a "fool" please don't misquote me, I totally respect and appreciate everyone here trying to rub minds together.

Like you said, when we die our bodies goes back to the earth as dusts well I agree with you on that; but where do our spirits go?

The Rich Man and Lazarus
19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in
purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every
day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named
Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to
eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even
the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 “The time came when the beggar died and
the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The
rich man also died and was buried. 23 In
Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up
and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by
his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father
Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to
dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my
tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’
25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember
that in your lifetime you received your good
things, while Lazarus received bad things, but
now he is comforted here and you are in agony.

NB: The rich man wasn't tormented in hades just because he was rich, and also being a poor man didn't make lazarus end up in abraham's bosom.

On earth, their bodies had already been buried hope we get that fact. This is my proof on our topic of discussion.

Yes, I use the bible as my "emperical proof", like any student would use his/her textbook in class to defend his/her claim. Tnx!

Mr Troll: I should provide proof for your claim? What are you ON about?

I asked a question with an illustration; as humans when we die do the good people and also the bad people end up the same way, or rather do the good and bad people end up in the same place? No hard feelings bro, we're just rubbing minds.

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Don't post events to be attended as your PM, you can do your update after the event.

Don't keep "imaginary" friends, that is people you don't know on your friends list especially the ladies you guys do this a lot.

Clear all messages that could incriminate you in any way after chatting with your friends and also advice the other person to do like wise.

Your parents business or economic status should be far away from your PM, if obama is your father well good for you but only trusted friends should know this and not the general public.

Facebook users, I suggest you only review your privacy policy and only keep those you know on your friends list.

The rate of kidnapping in Nigeria is on the increase, you may ask yourself "what do I have?" ,but please save yourself and your family at large the stress of being kidnapped.

God help us all.

NB: PM ≡ private message.

Mr Troll: You asked a question and then before anybody answers you say that heaven and earth is real and that jesus is the only way. So what exactly are you looking for?

You also make a claim that humans have a...soul

3 claims without any shred of empirical evidence yet you expect logical answers. Bro, pls go read logic101. No oofeinsee!

Last I checked I did philosophy and logic when I was in 100L and that was like 2years +, so my friend if you have any "emperical" proof bring it ON!. I have made my claims, so open the fora for yours.

quivah: shooo!!".
You see how injustice this is!
So a muslim,who believed so well in his own religion.. seeing many reasons to hold on to islam,keeping cool and fflg God's words still wont make heaven cause he dint believe in Jesus?...
Well christains,you gotta be afraid now...cause islam might be the true religion after all..
Or both will be dammed if budhism is the way.. tsw!!

John 3:3 "Jesus answered and said; "most assuredly I say unto you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of GOD".

quivah: are you then saying atheists are the mr B ?
Last time I check,its you religious people who portrays mr B's personality.

Sweerie I didn't refer to mr B as the atheist , and moreover you didn't answer the question above; is it justifiable for both the two men to end up in the same place?

Since you guys like being logical and practical I would follow suit. I have a question and it goes thus. Let us assume there were two men on earth Mr A and Mr B, mr A while on earth was a good man, wasn't referred to as a good man because he went to church and believed in God but rather he was mostly referred to as a good man because he portrayed acts of love,kindness,giving and other good deeds to humanity. Now there was also Mr B the bad guy, also he wasn't mostly referred to as a bad guy because he didn't go to church nor he didn't believe in God but rather he was widely known as the shekaus(boko haram leader), the osamas, the suicide bomber, the rapist and all sorts of wicked and cruel things to humanity.
Now I ask, when mr A and mr B die where would their souls go to?. Don't tell me humans have no soul because you'll only end up making us equals with the animals( goats, dogs, snakes, monkeys) and seriously I'll laugh at that person.

All things being equal, a student who prepares well for an examination would pass, and those who don't would fail woefully I guess we all see that everyday; why didn't the lazy student pass the examination? It's simply because he wasn't prepared. HEAVEN and HELL is REAL, and the only way to a glorious eternal life is through JESUS CHRIST.

Patiently waiting for you 'logical' responds. Tnx!

NB: We are all humans, and I'm not judging you cause deep down you're all brothers and my sisters and maybe old enough to be my parents too.

@OP, may God give us the grace to stay steadfast, in the area of evangelism my brother I am lagging behind and I know most of us are lagging behind too. Let us keep the faith in christ Jesus and also pray for those that are yet to know him. SHALOM!

So that they would turn out to be COP killers and accidental discharge law officers(police). From personal experience I say gaming(video games, board and strategy games, physical sports etc) helps kids develop their IQ and not shooting.

Personally, I laminate all my important documents it's a form of preservation; and the good news also is that when laminated one can also photocopy it without experiencing any form of difficulty.

The man is trying to please men, but he shouldn't CHANGE the word of GOD please christians take heed for the end is near.

All I see here is politics. But fortunately ima politician too @ the SUG/FACULTY/DEPARTMENT level so I understand the language, but my friend we need not play that old dirty game now all we want is results and if u can't provide that step down.

Blah blah blah that's all they have to say.

They would call it off November, but students would resume january 2014.

*hisses* what were they doing?, who did they teach in august to demand any sort of pay?. No work, No pay! Abi their ear block?.

My own take is that, that wike guy should please deliver us from ASUU abeg! Make him show himself abeg!

Speedyboi and villageboi tnx guys.

[quote author=Doc_Miss]Oh! So it's the fault of the corrupt Lecturers that the Education Sector In Nigeria is in a Pitiable condition.
It's their fault that Students have been made Idle as a result of the On-going ASUU Strike.

Oh..it's also their fault that there aren't enough Facilities to enhance Learning..

It's also their Fault that the Hostels are an Eyesore...*hisses*[/quote]This is why the country is still in this pitiable state, we are all crying for fresh air and yet as individuals we can't even get a thing done right. So just because the FG have failed on their own part should we now follow suit? I think that's a food for thought.

bakynes: Get ur facts right,The three states linked with this road; Lagos,Ogun and Oyo states have informed the FG in the past that, they want to do it collectively due to the neglegence on the part of d FG bt the FG has refused to let them repair the road, so get ur fact right before coming here to comment.

We don't need facts on paper, we need results for all eyes to see; if they had true intentions then they would have pressed further. Let the 3 states involved sit there and fold their arms waiting for the FG and yet we want change overnight.

Osahon7: Dr. ONI OJO a Physics lecturer is among the list

Bros, that man wan kill us for CED 300 collected 200 per student as blocking fee + refreshments on the day of the project defence from 5 departments of about 700 300level students up till today 60 percent of us can't find our result on that course that one na compulsory final year carry over course. And yet ASUU would be there talking rubbish when their members are the most corrupt of all.

When Akpabio constructed Federal roads with state funds in Akwa-ibom state, the people thought the man was mad; he asked one question and I quote and un-quote "the people that lost their lives on these bad roads are they federal citizens? ",I say NO! Cause the people that have died and would still die on this Lagos-ibadan express way are not Federal citizens they don't partake in the National cake; the people that partake in the National cake don't use these roads. My point is If lagos and ibadan can't rally around to fix this mess they should sit there and watch their people die due to the FG's recklessness. We know that the FG is incompetent and this can't be completed within the next 50 months.

If them like make them no pay the teachers their money, dem go pray from now till the return of Jesus christ. Mtchew! Why are we Nigerians always stupid? You dey owe pesin simply pay them their money and all thes strikes would come to an end.

Apart from dictionary explanations, can any literature/art student or expert kindly educate us over here. I normally say 'nollywood movies' and 'hollywood 'films', I'm a science student though so on this field no sir! I can't prove this one.

On a long thing, th only lingo ASUU understand now is "where the money" ...#Case closed

Make sure you know what you're doing, and be very good in mathematics; I study mathematics and economics in UNIBEN and I have a lot of industrial maths friends too.

You can work in industries coupled with what our friend earlier said, when you get to your finals you would understand better for now just make sure you know your course of study well and involve GOD in your quest.
In your finals there are courses like Quantity survey, mathematical modelling(300L) etc then you would understand better. As a mathematician in any field you can work in banks,Statistic firms, min of edu. Etc it's all on GOD bro! Cheers.

Saint Chukz: ^ This one is obviously a confra Man...Anyway let me not mention it....."E/*/T"

Oga na u sabi where you see confra man ooo!, if you like go out there and protest without safe guarding yourself and see what the police would use your eyes to see that's if you would be alive to tell the story. Ask the Delsu guys what they saw in the hands of the NPF tragic!

You people should continue speaking evil about men of GOD and continue criticising any little gossip you hear without proper justification . You don't believe when they you about the "things of GOD" but you foolishly believe any report the news men and bloggers have to say. "O ye generation of vipers and vain sayers pulling down the kingdom of GOD" ,it's people like you that die mysteriously "woe unto you". Any man that calls the name of GOD is answerable to GOD in all his doings and GOD would deal with such fellow as it pleases him, so it's not in your responsibility as humans to judge or raise your tongue vainly on any religious matters( christians or muslims). Be warned, for whether you believe it or not "the son of man shall coming again and all shall give account of his deeds knowingly or unknowingly".

NB: I'm not saying this report isn't true, but this is Nigeria where you have to verify the authenticity of any news before coming to a conclusion. A coin as we all know has two sides, so before you start saying gibberish that would cut your days here on earth or bring great calamity upon your head do your self a little favour by digging deep into the issue @ hand properly before commenting.

@ Mr OP, if we are not protesting with live tools then count me out cuz na so so empty talk una sabi talk. Let's come all out with our tools as wey dey protest we dey throway cuz me I no want make any yeye police take me shine.

@OP, sorry to say man "but you're dumb" not because of your write-up but because of the fact that you're very "gullible". Na this yeye FG talk u dey take serious. SMH

Joke of the whole year.