₦airaland Forum

@ toba

dude I will never loose debate against people like you because the only thing you can do is to insult The Prophet

you accused me of hate and intolerance at the same time you were praising me yesterday for tolerance and understanding

How  can  you justify yourself ?  you either big Liar and Coward or an Hypocrite lacking of consistency

you claimed here Muslims and I have insulted Jesus I challenge you to bring a single evidence to back up your claim


I don't like boofon like you who hide behind double standard no wonder why you 're lonely Irrational  and extremely

ignorant 

As for envy how can I envy someone like you ? when I am  Self Employed  Polyglot and  holding two degrees from

Two of the most prestigious universities in the western Hemisphere   University of Paris Pantheon Sorbonne and N Y

University School of Business

When you live in environment as Muslim it is really important to be able to take a critical distance and not react so

emotionally you need to held tight to your Islamic principles and not to compromise your faith for any reason

but also to  be wise enough not to overreact to provocation from some lonely silly people

The way  both those characters are repeatedly insulting our Beloved Prophet is outrageous and unfair

your way of opening a debate or critic on an emotional ground is in fact a way to close the door on rational discourse

more you insult our Prophet more we will hate you and lose respect for you one may say there is no legal limit to free

speech but there  are civic and moral limits such behavior from your part will only enflames emotions it does not court reason it

is useless provocation what both of you guys aim here to polarize NLders or to build bridges ?

How does one of you imagine that an average Muslim like me very westernized   who opposes terrorism and extremism will react seeing the

Prophet depicted and insulted ? do you expect me to reward you by being kind to you ? do you expect me to add you on my FB

or YM ? after both you failed the  basic test of friendship  by burning the bridge of understanding tolerance and respect

Any Muslim here who still has any relation with any of you should check himself / herself and rethink his association 

I can be friend with non Muslims include atheists as long as  there is respect  but never with My  Prophet bashers

Do I go insulting both of you your priests religion and congregation because I am free to do it and can do it in very personal

and hurting way ? No !! it is called civil responsibility which both of you are lacking

^^^

Your ignorance is amazing you must be a frustrated lonely woman who need to get laid  for your info there is only

one Quran but interpretations  differ from  school to another  only in matter where there is no verse stating a   

definitive rule  on the matter when I said  Sunni Muslims represent 90% of the Muslim population  I am not

exaggerating last stop bringing up the Prophet name  whenever you spelling your rubbish hate and misinformation

As for me  here in New York city I  went to Masjid Al aqsa for Salat El Eid ate a lot of meat had loads of fun talking

and catching up with some friends it was a bit chilly here wished if I was back home enjoying the holiday among my

family and my loved ones

Mutah (pleasure in Arabic ) is a marriage contracted by two parties for a specific period of time it was first permitted 

during Muslim military  campaigns before the Islamic legislative was made complete the Prophet later forbad it  



made it haram on permanent basis We may recall that Quran adopted gradual course in prohibiting alcohol (Khamr)  

usure (Riba) in three different verses in the same manner the Prophet adopted a gradual course in matter of sex 

Today there is consensus (Ijma) between the major four Sunni schools of thought which represent 90% 0f the Muslim

population that this practice is prohibited same as Inbreeding fornication eating pork etc the only party that still  

practice mutuah is exclusively located in Shia areas  and frown by the mainstream Muslims especially Sunni Muslims

I still don' t understand  why Toba is so obsessed by Nigerian Muslim women when he can have a better suitable  

Christian lady more the ones you are  after here are fake  hypocrites pretenders  who swear by God not to marry  

a Christian yet they still flirt and lust after him despite their hijab if they wear any  some still visit babalawo and

the services of the popular pentecostal church for prayers and healing where many of them are converted   others 

even go far to swear by Ifa the  Yoruba deity and offer sacrifices to him on daily basis while dancing on some X rated

lyrical Fuji music

Hey Inked thanks for your wishes it would be great if

All your Nigerians here Muslims and Christians alike could

learn from you in term of tolerance and kindness

Call me when you get a chance I have some gist and ram

for you

In Nigeria Muslims and Christians will live in peace if you and your kind like forsebel rise above religious bigotry

and intolerance and look at ways to live in harmony and trust You guys need to show more respect to other traditions

beliefs and practices and spend more time in the Christian forum People who are here will never switch to your ways 

no matter what  So stop deceiving yourself and coming back with  silly threads

if really you and your people  desire peace stop insulting people religion and Prophet  because there is no other way

around so it is your call now  and yours   only Madame emaka

May the one accept our Duaa respond to our invocations and open our hearts

during your quest for your personal inner peace do not forget the poors the oppressed Pray for your family pray for

the Ummah pray for you fellow human beings with love and affection

@ Muki like they say in wolof  Dewenetti balene niou Ak bal

Eid Mubarek brothers and sisters

Aloy Emeka obsession with Islam is beyond imagination her shallow views about Islam  are grounded in ignorance

and Islamophobia Hope one of the brothers here step in to fill the romantic void of Mademoiselle Amaka

I hate to see some Muslims  bragging about wearing Hijab or calling for implementing shariah in their dress code or Hudud (punishment) or raiding bars night clubs or arresting call girls by doing so they are reducing Shariah to simply a set of dress code and  punishment but at same time they ignore that Shariah is more encompassing and deals first and foremost with our believe in God human interactions human rights compassion social justice why rush to chop someone head or hand or stone a person or force a lady to wear hijab against her will


Those people may not know the essence of tawhid or how to perform more important religious duties related to praying  fasting etc I see them  nothing but bunch of  hypocrites fronting and Allah called them "Munafiqueen" 
and stated  that they are worse than  the non believers even though they are Muslims !!

Sincerely I have no doubt Toba needs a wife he needs a marriage he needs a Muslimah but I am not sure if any 

Practicing Muslimah here will be willing to marry outside her religion unless she is ignorant or careless of 



The teaching of Islam since  Marriage in Islam is a big deal and should not be taken lightly

Marriage in Islam is considered "Nisfu Ed Din " which means half of the faith and the four Sunni schools of thought

agreed that a Muslimah marriage from a  non Muslim is illegal therefore every intimate relation between them is

considered "Zina" (fornication ) less talk of the status of their kids who are considered bastards according to Islam

Toba I hope your obsession with Muslim ladies and your desire to marry one is not guided by other intentions such as

converting them or taking your marriage from them as convenience or commodity without clear intention to grow old 

with them to mold with them and to build a strong Muslim family with them 

I am sure with your perseverance and tenacity you might get what  you want from some" Liberal " Yoruba Muslimah

from the South west or even from a Hausa Fulani as long as you have a deep pocket

From what my Nigerian Muslimah friend told me Nigerian girls irrespective of their religion will not turn down 


any rich man regardless of his  look or Religion

Lols @ creamish and gas 1  broken french just wondering which one is worse

Anglophone Africans will hardly  master Victor Hugo's Language 

OK les gars bonne chance continuez a pratiquer votre Francais de cons 

Most Yoruba Muslims are not being educated in Islam through constant studies of Quran and Hadith that some of them became victims of the evangelization Their Christian brothers are not smarter but they capitalize on their mistake
and poverty to convert them

The  dawah in Yoruba land is dead unlike Wolof in Senegal Mandinka in Guinea Bambara in Mali Fulani in Mauritania
or Timne in Sierra leone Yoruba Muslims are failing their own people in the way of establishing permanent institutions for the teaching of Islam they must guide their people to the reading recitation and comprehension of Quran to contain the aggressive conversion of Muslims in the south west and to counter all arguments discussions or questions that their tribal  Christians folks can bring

Yoruba Muslims must develop Dawah programs first for their Muslim brothers and sisters  to teach them about their religion according to the Quranic verse " O who believe protect yourselves and your family from the hellfire " Quran
66:6 and then for their Christian brothers  sisters and others

The weakness that results from ignorance of the religion make some of them convert while some convert because of lack of job opportunity greed inter marriage or influence

Islam is not religion of violence or terrorists Islam is religion of peace because the word peace ( Salaam ) and the

various forms of the word appear in Quran 33 times while the word war ( Al harb ) appears only 4 times this

demonstrate that Islam is not religion of violence

According to Quran Muslims should come to peace and live in peace in SUratul Ma ' Ida Allah Says if you kill an 

innocent person it is as if you killed all mankind and if you save one live it is as if you have saved the lives of all mankind

The Prophet SAW said in His Hadith that all mankind are members of the  family of God and the most beloved in the



presence of Allah is the one who is most beneficial to His creation He said "creation" not only Muslims

The Prophet SAW is for all mankind not only for Muslims it should not be problem between Muslims and Christians  

because in the time of The Prophet He received Christians inside the Mosque in Medina and  when they wanted  

to say their Christian prayers He allowed them to do so and inside His Mosque

In Nigeria boko haram today if a Christian enters a Mosque in Kano or Zamfara to pray that a declaration of war and 

many lives could be lost in the Process but in Islam that a lack of knowledge and lack of information

@ Mukina kholel se inbox mba yangui ci Jammu

@ Sweetnecta I am neither ashamed of anything or propagating any evil Al hamdulillah I am someone versed in the Religion and know the Halal from The Haram if there someone who is lacking in his duty Sir it must be you! Allah stated in Quran  a Muslim should shield himself and his people from hellfire in Arabic ''Ku anfusakum wa Ahlikum Naren " it is an order

Bro what you did to your own tribe ? did you make dawa to them with  wisdom and kindness  like Quran asked you too ?

can I ask your tribal man toba ?

Did you know your tribe used to be majority Muslims ?

Did you know  people from your tribe are converting to Christianity more than any other tribe in Africa ?

Bro so who is lacking in his Islamic  duty here ?

If your fellow Yoruba Muslim Sisters are willing to marry Christian man  who should  be blamed ?

If your fellow Yoruba sister is sending  message on FB to a fellow  Christian man knowing he is attracted to Muslim

women and not fit to marry her who  should  be blamed ?

Who should be blamed for the rapid growing of Christianity in Nigeria in general and in Yorubalnd in particular ?

What you did to counter the evangelization lead by Oyedepo in Lagos ondo Oyo Osun Ogun and Ekiti ?

Maybe you should invest more time and energy  to make dawa and teach your people about your Religion instead of

blaming other for their  shortcoming and faux pas

Sorry I missed the whole thing I had to take a week vacation in Paris  

Don't mind her she wants you in the dark   most Muslim girls have Christian BFs but they keep them secret
like her friend said she must stop beating around the bush

toba lol I see  she wants you but doesn't have the gut to admit it unlike Christian girls Muslim girls are not straightforward

Ok I thought you were in the USA

toba where are you based ? I know two Muslim girls here who don't mind marrying a Christian and both are Yoruba

^^^
I don't know why you are so intrigued by  Muslim women they are not all that take it from

me at the end of the day  a Christian wife will suit you better

Don't call me liar ugly monkey shut up or proof me wrong by bringing such Quranic verse I dare you liar I bet you won't find it anywhere Cochon

Yew mann nit bu bakh loy ragal dema bugga waxtan rek

^^^
lou bess se me jabar dema suxle se email bu gaw


@ Toba sorry I am very busy but I will get back to you after reading your long expose . A bientot

Definitely there could be a lot issues which can arise between the marriage of Muslim woman and non Muslim man

The non Muslim man would not naturally recognize Prophet Mohamed SAW as to be a Prophet of Allah and might object to Hijab he could want his wife to dress  more  "moderately " especially when going to a party .

Moreover he could ask her to sit with him while he consumes alcohol The husband could want the wife to serve alcohol for him and his friends after dinner The husband could find it okay for him to drink while his wife is offering her prayers and could want to touch her or be intimate with her while  fasting

More dangerous the non Muslim man could either of himself or out of pressure of his family compel the Muslim woman to accept his faith on other hand  a  Muslim man is under a strict instructions from Allah not to compel his wife to change her religion or insult Jesus Christ

Hence the rights of non Muslim woman are secured and protected in the house of Muslim man whereas it is not necessarily the same in vice versa situation

All Praises are due to Allah that has no associate He is at the present as He was Showering His Mercy and Blessing on
Us He is The First The Last The Manifest The Hidden

Toba in This life we have a lot  of choices if someone doesn't like Egusi soup he still can have pepper Soup or Suya
If someone doesn't like fat girl he  still can get married to skinny one If someone doesn't like Lagos he still can move to Abuja Ibadan Werri New York  Paris or wherever he  likes but in the day of Judgement you can only go to Paradise or  hellfire and you have to work for Paradise in this life this the way and here is the place

Toba earlier in one of your post you said you believe in God and someone said OK so you need to believe in The Prophet Mohamed Honestly at least according to Islam your believe in God is not complete as long as you still associate someone else with Him


To believe in God you have to bear witness that there is no God but Allah and bear witness that Mohamed is Messenger of God you have to say Shahada and believe it in your heart after that you have to pray five times a day fast Ramadan if you have the wealth you have to give zakat that is the poor tax 2.5 percent of your wealth after your necessary expenses and if you have the means and the ability you have to perform Hajj once in your lifetime and from now on you can become Muslim our obligations would be  now yours and so our women

Quran does say if you are not Muslim you will not be in Paradise "And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam it should not be accepted from him and in the life to come he should be among the losers " Quran 3:85

On the other hand Allah said in the Quran "La Ikraha Fi d din " which means in Arabic no constraint in Religion
In Islam every person is free to be Muslim or something else One should not force his wife or even his son to be Muslim

In the time of The Prophet a man of Ansar ( Arabic Tribe of Medina) and his wife had a child who committed perjury and became Mushrik (unfaithful) his father was shocked and swore  to kill him the Prophet learned about the issue and advised him to leave his son alone and that when the verse cames to state no compulsion in the Religion

I am single and not looking for a perfect wife since it's  only exists in our  dreams we all have qualities and intelligence but  also faults and deficiencies

What I am looking for in a woman ?

I am looking for her To be  practicing  Muslimah with good appearance  I prefer her dark
skinned  well educated smart  Vegan and   exercising  regularly 

Speaking Arabic or French would be  a plus but not a  requirement

@ sweetnecta What I said was crystal clear Quran never gave Muslim women clear guidance  not  to marry Christian or Jewish men

The issue is not about Toba or myself I am not a scholar nor a Mufti but Alhamdulillah I am humbled with the little knowledge I know Allah blessed me to be born in very knowledgeable Muslim family where all boys and girls are required to memorize the whole Quran before age ten and learn Usul Al  Hadith  and Fikh intensively 

sweetnecta stop saying there were no Muslim women married to Christian or Jewish man in Mecca ! Oh yeah maybe you did not know at least I hope you agreed with me that polytheists are worse than Christians and Jews according to Quran Yet do you know Zainab the daughter of the Prophet SAW was married to  a non Muslim Polytheist Abdul As Ibn Rabee and where ? in Mecca ! and while she was Muslim

Rukayyah and Um Kelthum both daughters of the Prophet SAW were married to the sons of Abu Jahl where ? in Mecca ! BTW none of them never been Muslims

Hind Bint Utbata one of the main women supporters of the Prophet and wife of the most prestigious and noble of Quraish were muslim while her husband (Abu Sufyan Ibn Harb father of the umayad dynasty ruler Muawiya ) while he still Polytheist and she never divorced from him until his conversion

So brother your opinion was only your opinion and Toba is only your tribal man and compatriote

@ Vedaxcool

Funny when you accused me of same thing you doing stop issuing Fatwa and talking about a subject from your subjective view and relaying some views of some unidentified Scholar Do you know that the views of any Scholar including the ones of Imams  Malik Abu Hanifa Ahmed and  Al Shafi'i  are not obligatory to follow more less  the ones of any other Muslim Scholar

I do know there are many challenges and obstacles in inter religious Marriage I do not intend myself to be in one for personal reasons and so most of Muslims I will come later to discuss some of the issues facing the Muslim women

@ Toba I think Deols is falling for you and following you like twitter     just be patient with her and she might be the one who knows ? If the truth has been  said I bet most of these girls here have dated Christian men before  so why the Pretence ?