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danwo: Animals do not need anesthetic and not every woman takes epidural during child birth

Genesis 3:16 is not about physical pain but is about pain of the mind as opposed to pain of the body

By de facto, Eve was distressed from the or her loss and was already suffering from mental anguish etc before God declared that He will add more to her sorrow by increasing it

Eve was also renowned to have had ideas in Genesis 3:6



Wisdom is about making good decisions, notice Eve planning, in her mind,

Notice her having ideas and then succumbing to that strong feeling of wanting to have the fruit and wishing that after eating it, it will make her wise

Now God is saying apart from the sorrow, her conception too will be greatly increased

Her conception also known as ideas, plans, schemes, her way or with intent to do something illegal or wrong, like eating the fruit, will be greatly increased

whilst her idea extravaganza is to impress her husband Adam, he Adam is to maintain the balance, keep her and the plans in check and in perspective.

Most of the times well-intentioned or well-meaning, women with their plans and ideas at times, remember John 2:4, it just says it all

Just called up a Veterinarian friend and he said animals do need anaesthetic. Some have died from pain caused by surgery so now they know better.


Saying every woman doesn't need epidural during childbirth is like saying "not every man can carry 200kg" (despite training). Genetics explains this clearly.

The key to the Adam story is to notice that they both acted like people today will act (adventurous and curious). God knowing what he created, would have known very well that this will happen even before he created them. why then take that position? you see why I say what I do?

ijawkid: So the 1st century christians were catholics??

Right??

There was a 1st century church,organized religion back then in d 1st century......

And the principles those guys laid are the ones I follow ....not the catholics....

Soon u'll be the 1st to attack this same catholics for carrying out d crusade......

Evolution is not a bible teaching...it refutes the creation account......so I refuse to accept it.......

It is really a shame you don't know the history of your religion.
And yet you have the energy to come here swinging wild punches and hope they connect someone's jaw.

That will work with amatures only. We R all prfessional boxers here. You need more training

I call them "comfort" Christians

Take only what they want, when they want, how they want, and where they want from the bible and stay happy. talk about a grand scale cherry-pick

hadbak: Xtian women? pls dnt start, I no fit laugh

I don start to laugh already.

Christians wey too like comfort? wear Hijab? not a chance!!

even if it was in the bible, they will interpret it the way they want and say:

"there is a deeper meaning to this"

bamto: Must you cast aspersions on Christians to make your point? Your dumb comment is pathetic.

it actually isn't if it caught your attention . It is to make mockery of your silly religion and piss you off.

works like a charm

Mobinga: Yet another cheap flaw.

Can you ascertain where I said there is a second life?

if your're not a Christian then stfu and gtfo

When people fall easily for accepting a 1st century hippie Jew that was crucified as their way to salvation and "eternal" life.


death threats from calling phone numbers is just a cake walk! they'll fall for anything

Mobinga: You must be an ldiot. How does one prove something in a second life in the present life?

Atheists and their silly flaws.

are you joking? how is that a flaw??

Very simple 50-50 probability logic here. Either there is a second life or there inst. Dont be arrogant enough to asset your confidence in a certainty that cannot be confirmed.

But then again, your second sentence gives you away pretty cheaply. How can you prove a second life in a present life? Answer: You cant
yet you are certain it is there because a book says so.

WTF is with this Jewish propaganda message here?

are you a Jew? or you just wana stir up antisemitic comments for fun?

Certainly not the same.

He can only be the same person if ywhw can "change". but that then goes against everything the religion stands for. "Unchangeable god"

in the old testament, one can describe him as a ruthless dictator and a tyrant to a certain degree

In the new testament, he now stand for forgiveness of everything (even your enemies)


i'm sure you can conclude for yourself

jmoore: Please create an insect let me see.... Your post affirms David's statement that anyone who doesn't believe in God is a fool.

huh?

you see the difference between you religious folks and us?

I hope you can figure this out for yourself. or do you want me to spell it out too?

lazy minds

joe4christ: [size=15pt]And you wonder why we have'nt been consumed by that large volume of water covering the earth?
Well not too worry i guess it's a miracle. Ooops! Sorry, i almost forgot u dont believe in miracles, then i guess it's the god of the 'big b@ng' at work. Lol! - Bunch of dumb retardeens![/size]

first of all, is that the only thing you can pick out?

Secondly, try and understand the subject of my post. Dont go about rambling nonsense to validate your stance.

Emmy9ite: really? Am i right to call the 'Holyspirit' HolySoul?

you miss the point mate! neither holyspirit nor holysoul exist

People like you and me created them!

[quote author=Ileke-IdI]LOL infact, who else can we blame?[/quote]Flash Gordon

danwo: @Ileke-IdI

C'mon now, dont be ridiculous, no offence. Am baffled too why the blame is at God's steps and not elsewhere.

wtf! he said he did it. so why blame someone else? lol

functionality

we're surrounded by left hand drive countries.

and it was right to left. not the other way around

torkaka: MTN contracted to CNSSL right? CNSSL is exploiting call centre workers in jos by paying them 42k while those in kaduna,abuja,lagos & co get paid 85kh1 do the mat

ur chatting shit!

Fix the security problem and MTN has no choice. Not to mention other companies that will come to invest.

The stupid govt is chasing a red herring here. Rather than focus on the main issue, they prefer to give MTN a bad name. silly

Good for you mate.

omg.. best chat i've ever seen!! "God" Pwned the b1tch! hahahahhahaha

USA having a TURKEY SHOOT!! LOL

i dont see how what i said contradicts my earlier post.

he is indeed wicked. if you dont wana see it, fine and good. I know my dad wont behave like him.

joe4christ: Why was'nt your private part placed on your forehead position maybe that would've made it more private or dont u think so? Fool!

[size=15pt] For only a fool would conclude withen himself that there is no God! [/size]

weak!

learn your biology properly man before quoting your useless psalms 14. human beings are very poor designs. If an engineer designed u and me, we'll be sent back to the factory with design flaws

- we eat and breathe from the same place. easily choking
- sewage disposal and amusement park are next door neighbours. what the hell is that?
- we convert only a fraction of wat we eat to energy and toss the rest away
- we have odd designs. Eg: the recurrent laryngeal nerve goes from the left of your throat down to your stomach then back up to the right side of your throat instead of taking the shortest route possible. terrible design
- we can survive very very short periods in water when 70% of the world we know is covered in the damn thing


this list can go on and on. so dont tell me we are perfectly engineered and hence its god's doing. that's just utter nonesense

No it isnt

Whats next?

Graduate gateman?

danwo: I suppose you arrived at that opinion by your myopic standards. You will soon find out that the older you grow the less you thought you know

I really dont understand you guys.

Lets turn the table. Imagine it was a king that did that to his subjects. Punish everyone in the kingdom for the disobedience of two people only. punish livestocks, drain the soils from nutrients so people have to work extra hard to grow food. Increase the pain of life for all his subjects for everything they do, even in the most important phase of their survival (childbirth).

But he actually loves his subjects??. everyone will clearly call this king an evil king or even question his stance.

Why then does god get an unlimited "get out of jail free" card?. why cant he be questioned?? If i cant question my father (No matter how silly my question is), then he really doesn't love me.

dictatorship to the highest degree.

danwo: Beg to differ my friend, it affected all, the whole shebang, ecosystem and all. God said the ground was cursed. cursed is the ground for your sake . . . or The ground is cursed because of you. Through hard work you will eat [food that comes] from it every day of your life

that's one wicked god

iconofgod: I can see a pre-determined intentional sense behind d world's setup: there must be a God somewhere...

and if there really is, i'm damn right sure it isn't the Abrahamic god people subscribe to

truthislight: Is it not dying that God told Adam will be the trouble that Adam will have if Adam should eat the fruit? GENESIS 2;17

If it is true that 6000 years ago or 3500 years since ancient man wrote in the bible that man will be dying on eating the fruit as you and co will call them, since they were very wrong on all they wrote like you said.
why is it you modern smart guys have not prove them wrote by putting a stop to human dying?

As smart as you are and all your evolutionist scientist (They are smart you know).
Why have they not unravel why ,human do die at best stop death?

Are you and your smart atheist conceding that what that none existing God said in GENESIS that Adam will hence only toil, grow old and die Is a fact that human cant fixe? I thought it was a bush man idea that modern man can fixe?
scientist that are so Good that they can tell us how we came to existence cannot fixe the most pressing need.

How did a "fairytale", told by ancient men written down in an ancient book turn out to be a reality that science cant even understand (old age and death)?

So, mr, muskeeto, am i just playing a card or i am only stating the reality that i consider or should be considered a paramount problem?
If i should decide to stick with the bible since science dont have anything to offer on this imediete problem, is it not an inform decision to stick to what appears to me to be the only solution?
That you Guys have decided not to be interested must i join you on you nothingness?

That same old ancient book is still the book that offers the only way forward that you have all rejected.

Do you really think it is rational to join you?
If i want to commit suicide will YOU join me?

My sympathy.

what kind of loving, caring, all knowing, all powerful god will punish everyone for the sins of two people? that sounds cruel to me and I dont wana identify with a god like that. He didnt even stop there. He punished all living things to die too because Adam ate a DAMN fruit he put in the centre of the garden for the strangest reason I can ever think of. Again your explanation here will be "god knows best".

So much for creating us in his image and likeness. If I have something I dont want my kids playing with, I'll put it away where they can never find it. I wont put it right in the middle of the living room and when I come back I punish every single member of my house for what my kids did. Punish them for eternity to toil, suffer and die.

But then later sends his own son to get killed first of all so he can forgive the original sin he caused in the first place?? what the fck is this? North Korea?? only to promise them eternal life if they believed in the son that died on the cross. Still have the balls to say he Loves us? this is sick

He does whatever he likes and we are not allowed to question him. He knows the beginning and the end so in away he and his angels are playing games with us? If Autocracy or dictatorship ever needed personification, ywhw excels with flying colours.

I want a perfect, spotless, consistent God.

show me a god like that and i'll jump back on the religious bandwagon



Some how u fail to understand the importance of dying. would you worship god if you didnt die? i'm sure the answer is NO!! so in away you guys are the hypocrites here.

@ Ijawkid

Mate, take a hike. The catholic church accepts evolution, although modified to suit them a little, it still hovers around the same general idea.

Your style of Christianity come from Catholicism. you should listen when they speak. They gave u the bible u use.

@ truthislight. You have made no sense whatsoever.

First of all, resurrection of the dead is different from life after death? wow. I'm compelled to stop here lol

My posts were focused on the silly write up you and your cohorts put up in view of the topic. It is important you keep in mind the subject of this thread and reason along those lines. If you do so, you can see how silly ijawkid made u guys look and u support him.

I have said nothing about quality of life, nothing about money, nothing about prosperity, nothing about being good to your neighbour, nothing about self ethics and moral standards. All i focus on here is the grounds that: keeping in mind that this is all we've got will spur a lot of people into doing the best with it.

I'm sure u do not know me, neither what i have done with my life nor how I contribute to society or making a difference in every little way. Neither do I know you. So your statement on this again is baseless
The fact is, your statement puts you under a silly light and I question that. defend it properly if u can


On your second post, WTF are you talking about? Andromeda Galaxy is on a collision course with our Milkyway galaxy. that collision is only a few billion years from now. When it happens, life as we know it will cease. Barring every other thing that can annihilate our earth before then.

I only speak on facts and evidence. but You quote a two thousand year old library of altered manuscripts put together under the name of "holy book".
Go figure

you seem to be loosing it as each day goes by dylan .

the Egyptians actually were the first to start using mathematics extensively. back then, Europeans were still running around in sheep clothing, gathering food and foraging. lol

Europeans are good at stealing ideas and making it better. good example is Jagdish Chandra Bose the Indian that first demonstrated wireless transmission in Calcutta. Only for Marconi to steal the idea and patent it.


With your style or reason, I see why Logic calls you a quack biologist

davidylan: those atheists are asian. why dont you go buy your own black-made electronic products?

See i wasnt doing an uncle tom, just showing you how intellectually bankrupt your argument is. See... to the typical white or asian atheist... you are just another in the long line of inferior black people who should be removed from their countries to your jungle in Africa... you think they care that you dont believe in God too?

what point are you trying to make here? That atheists are racists too?. what has that got to do with the existence or non existence of your god?

So far, haven't read anything that suggests any of you have given the topic a good thought. But why should you?. You know in your hearts there is a god. Case closed, no argument. questions like these become uncharted territory for U guys! LoL!