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Bobbybabs:


You are so belligerent and contentious. Continue.

Bobbybabs:
No matter how you try to sugar coat your opinion,you know deep down am right but you will never admit it. Instead you are pointing to errors which in essence is obviously as a result of your mistakes.

Please let me be clear ones and for all which I think that where you are having problem with.
Having big plants in my opinion is best as long as each plant is atleast 1000mw. Now that is what I am talking about. Am not in support of tiny plants scattered everywhere.

In my original post, I stated that I do not know much about power generation. All am proposing is the best form of generation should be used considering all factors then we should build big plants for them. Or mostly have big power plants that we can really depend on. For example 1000mw in one state, another 2000mw in this state, another 500mw, 3000mw and so on. I do not like the 80, 70, 100mw idea period.

Please stop all this your solar panel lessons, I did not ask for it. Besides only God know how you got your knowledge on it cos I doubt you are an expert in this field. And please don't tell me you got it from Google because it only makes you look stupid.

No matter how simple a machine looks or function, it still going to need maintenance. Fine you are stating that it is little maintenance. Now have you considered that engineers will have to be stationed in each of these tiny solar plants. In terms of logistics and overhead please do maths before you come here to type poo again.

I rest my case.

Bobbybabs:
Now you are making some sense as regards to the Pakistan case. 10 1000MW solar plants is far better and not the tiny plants you are in support of earlier.

But because solar is sustainable does not mean you will not still budget for maintenance and security. So are you telling me you just set it up and leave it running on its own. Common

Lastly the 10 X 5000mw I suggested is just an example I stated if you have digested my original post very well. 1000mw atleast is very okay and not 70, 100, 80mw etc scattered all over the country.

sammydemperor:
Have you ever worked in a power plant before... You think it's just one generator unit they have,

You have no idea bro, you don't even know jack about power generation transmission nor distribution in this country, from your write ups one can easily tell you are quoting from PDFs

Lemme burst your bubble a bit, do you know that hydro powered plants are renewable energy sources Ohh you thought it's just solar and wind... Hydro plants are sustainable, they are what the whole national grid system relies on for black starting the grid, quit your game of playing the wise one here, just look at what Indian books have done to your life

Talking about solar powered plants, you think it's just the normal series and parallel connections they thought you back in school that they use in designing such systems, you think you just walk into the plant and replace any damage panel just like that without shutting down... Lol you must really be ignorant, time and energy will always be lost no matter the type of plant you operate as long as you have to carry out maintenance actions, so it's not just hydro plants it affects only... Mind you solar panels looses its efficiency as time goes by

Bobbybabs:
Please stop this ignorance, you are not helping yourself trust me.
The last time I checked I never stated the use use of hydro dams. All I said is pick what is best and build 10 mega power plants of lets say 5000mw each.
Lastly if you can process information well you should know that i clearly stated that all these 100mw mini power plants combined will be more expensive to sustain at the long run. And it is not just about solar plants.
I will still stand by what I said earlier, it is better to have 10 mega plants than having hundreds of mini plants all over the country. And please spare me the avengers excuse.
Is it not better providing full security for 10 mega plants than providing security for many mini plants.

Pakistan to build world’s Largest Solar part of 1000 MW generation


Entire solar park, with 1000 MW production ability is estimated to cost around US 1.5 billion dollars

http://germanystudy.net/pakistan-to-build-worlds-largest-solar-part-of-1000-mw-geneartion/



Here are some key highlights of Qaid-e-Azam Solar Park:

Overall capacity: 1,000 Mega Watts
Phase 1 Capacity: 100 MW
Completion of Phase 1: December 2014
Phase II Capacity: 300 MW
Phase III Capacity: 600 MW
Final Capacity: 1,000 MW
Completion of final phase: Dec 2016
Dedicated Area: 6500 Acres (Phase 1 Area: 500 Acres)
Boundary Wall: 9 KM
Annual solar Energy after final phase: 2,000 kWh/m2

Bobbybabs:
Don't mind them, all they do is come here to spew rubbish on issues they have no practical knowledge on. I myself don't know much about power generation. However I will definitely choose a plan of setting 10 mega plants all over the country to supply us a total of 50,000MW than having thousands of all these 100mw plants.
Common sense should tell you it is easier to track, maintain and grow these 10 mega plants I am sighting as an example. But everyone here is using the avengers situation as an excuse. So are you telling me now that the government can provide adequate security to important infrastructures in the country. If your answer is No than we are done. Nothing will ever be sustainable, it's only of matter of time before everything packs up.
All these mini power plants are not sustainable in the long run in terms of logistics and maintenance. Won't you rather have your engineers working together maintaining on one plant than moving from one village to another in different state tracking mini power plants.

1wolex85:
Oga, if only one large plant is built, it means we will have a single point of failure, besides have you considered the cost of transmitting the generated power to all parts of the country? I think I prefer this smaller cluster networks as it looks easier to manage.

musicwriter:
Thank you!.

I wanted to say something along this line when I saw your response.

China generated over 50,000 MW with about $300 Million and here we want to generate little with over $1 Billion!. If the FG give me just $10 Billion I'll solve Nigeria's electricity problem, cause I've discovered myself ''electricity generation is no rocket science'' as you said.

I've built a water powered electricity generator, the first in the history of the world. It's so simple I believe there's an eternal conspiracy to surpress the science by the electricity companies and the powers that control the system of things of this world.

Follow me cause I am going to post the technology here on Nairaland pretty soon.

Skmoda360:
say that one more time my bro, you nailed it.

amazingspiderma:
we should be making solar panel through research,or ask the companies to come and manufacture them here in Nigeria.

makes sense now.

amazingspiderma:
I stopped reading when I saw "Solar Power Purchase
Agreements (PPAs) ".
.
Since solar is abundantly available, they were supposed to sponsor or step up research institutes since the market for this opportunity is endless.

Whenever Nigerian government want to steal funds,the begin to purchases.

MasterJayJay:
Each state should be given a mandate to generate at least 1,000 megawatts for the next four years.

A former Chairman of the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission, Nuhu Ribadu, on Friday returned to the All Progressives Congress.
Mr. Ribadu said in a statement he posted on his Facebook page that he rejoined the party online on Friday, and then hosted officials of the party from his Bako Ward in Yola South Local Government Area of Adamawa State.
Then on Friday, he visited the Yola South secretariat of the APC to present himself to the party.
He had left the party for the Peoples Democratic Party in 2014.
Mr. Ribadu, a former presidential candidate of the defunct Action Congress of Nigeria, explained that his return to the APC was triggered by his belief that all politics were local and that almost everyone around him who started politics with him believed the time had come for them to make sacrifices and concession.
He said, “My decision to return to the APC was triggered by my belief that all politics are local. Almost everyone around me, and with whom we started my political journey believed the time had come for us to make sacrifices and make concessions. That is in addition to the unbelievable love that my friends in the APC have showered on me in the past months.
“They demonstrated in words and action that they wanted me back home. The intractable crises in the PDP also made it impossible for one to contribute to the necessary task of building a viable opposition platform for our country.
“I also did a deep and long reassessment of the circumstances that warranted my exit from the APC in the first place. I left the APC in 2014 owing to fundamental disagreements with the ways the chapter of the party in my state was run after it fell into some hands.”
PREMIUM TIMES had reported on Tuesday that the Adamawa State chapter of the APC was wooing Mr. Ribadu back.
The former EFCC boss is one of the founding leaders of the party, but defected to the PDP in 2014, a few months to the 2015 general elections.
He left the APC after the impeachment of former Governor Murtala Nyako by the State House of Assembly in 2014.

Olabestonic001:
Bros, you know what you're really saying.
How can someone tell us to ditch embedded Power for Centralised power in Nigeria?
It must be due to gross ignorance.

sammydemperor:
lol...

look at this one that does not even know anything about power supply, you have no damn idea of how these things work, all you do everyday is talk cheaply on nairaland, without any grounded knowledge

nigga piss off, why do you have to make everything look like a PDP and APC affair grow up boy

am talking facts you talking trash, do you know how much load our 330kv load can withstand according to their design

please keep quiet, the largest dam in the world was completed in 2009, xo tell me how hydro power generation is becoming obsolete
ill mannered piece of shit... guy go park for yaba left and don't quote me agaain

sammydemperor:
Nah, not today, not now... I won't insult you, Your ignorance has done that to you already

If you could read effectively maybe you'd have had a better understanding of where am driving at

some countries have the luxury of experimenting with solar powered plants, others like Nigeria don't, we currently have an installed capacity of not more than 7,000MW. Instead of building small plants everywhere, why not build something large to generate what can supply the entire country for about 18 hours daily...

You can say all you want, but i won't stoop to your level of immaturity by trading insults... I'd rather trade opinions with you

Thanks

seunny4lif:
Why Kano, Kaduna and Katsina all northern state getting 3 while south as only 2
Wetin dey Katsina
Why dem no put 1 for Onitsha

sammydemperor:
smh...

is it that we lack understanding or the will power to make effective change

For God sakes who builds a 1125 MW plant with $1.75 billion?

You guys may see it as progress, but damn how much do you really know about power generation, its not about the number of stations, rather the capacity. These plants will not be able to deliver up to 45% of their rated capacity to the Grid...

the largest dam in world was built at a cost of $22.5 billion and it generates 22,500 MW of electricity, spare me all the bullshit of littering the whole country with mini-power plants...

build something tangible, power generation is not rocket science all it takes is just some level of responsiveness to the plight of your people

this is how they will keep on taking us for granted, if we just take anything they bring to our table without us questioning them

so much for change...

Pakistan to Get Largest Solar Energy Plant in the World

Pakistan saw the inauguration of its first large-scale Solar Power Park in Bahawalpur around a month ago.

As per news, this solar power park will start generating 100 Megawatts of electricity in December this year while the output of the solar power plant would reach 1,000 megawatts by 2016.

Quaid-e-Azam Solar Park project is a joint venture of the government of Punjab, Bank of Punjab and TBEA Ltd. of China.

It is Pakistan’s first large scale solar power project and one of the largest in the world.



Entire solar park, with 1000 MW production ability is estimated to cost around US 1.5 billion dollars.

https://propakistani.pk/2014/06/11/quaid-e-azam-solar-park/

Canada-Based Company To Set Up USD 1.2 Billion 1,000 MW Solar Power And Panel Plants In Zambia


The Zambian government has recently announced that it is close to sign with SkyPower Global, a Canada-based solar energy equipment supplier, a power purchase agreement (PPA) to set up a photovoltaic (PV) panel manufacturing plant a solar power plant within the next five years.

The solar power and manufacturing plants are expected to represent a total investment of USD 1.2 billion and it will finally add 1,000 MW of generation capacity at a rate of 200 MW per annum to the current installed of 1,967 MW.


http://www.zambia-invest.com/energy/canada-based-company-to-set-up-usd-1-2-billion-solar-power-panel-plant

BrokenTV:
You have comprehension problem. Re read the write up, go through my comment again stop putting word into my mouth.

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The Federal Government on Thursday in Abuja signed a Front-Runner Solar Power Purchase Agreements (PPAs) worth 1.75 billion dollars with 14 companies to build 1125 Megawatts(MW) capacity of renewable power in the country.
Mr. Babatunde Fashola, Minister of Power, Works and Housing, who signed the documents on behalf of the government, said the agreement was to demonstrate government’s commitment to diversify Nigeria’s power industry.

The minister listed the companies as Pan Africa Solar with 75mw of electricity to be located in Kankia Local Government in Katsina and Nigerian Solar Capital Partners, 100mw located in Ganjuwa, Bauchi state.
Others are Afrinergia Power Limited, 50mw located in Kokowa, Nasarawa State; Motir Dusable Limited, 100 MW in Udi, Enugu State and Nova Solar 5 Farm Limited, 100mw located in Katsina State.
Also Kvk Power Nigeria Pvt Limited, 100mw located in Yabo of Sokoto state; Middle Band Solar One Limited, 100mw in Lokoja West in Kogi and LR Aaron Power Limited, 100mw in FCT
Nova Scotia Power Development Limited, 80mw located in Dutse; CT Cosmos, 70 MW located in Kaduna West in Kaduna State and Oriental Renewable Solutions, 50mw in Kakowa, Jigawa.
Quaint Abiba Power Limited, 50mw located in Manchor Local Government of Kaduna State and Anjeed Innova Group, 100mw located in Kafanchan, also in Kaduna State.
According to Fashola, the PPAs are the heart and soul of financing the power industry.
Fashola disclosed that before the year 2030, Nigeria would have achieved 30 per cent capacity in renewable energy, adding that Nigeria would invest in renewable power in areas such as Biomass and coal.
He explained that the era had gone when the country would depend on one source to generate its electricity.
He added that Nigeria sited many of its solar energy projects in the northern part of the country because the area had more sun radiation than other parts.
The minister expressed happiness over the confidence the investors had to invest in Nigeria’s power sector not minding challenges in the industry.
He assured the investors that the Federal Government would provide them with good investment climate but would not tolerate low standard in the quality of their projects.
Earlier, Mr. Waziri Bintube, Acting Managing Director, Nigerian Bulk Electricity Trading PLC, expressed happiness that the energy sector was making progress in ensuring that Nigerians had quality and stable electricity.
Mr. Marcus Heal, Managing Director of Pan Africa Solar, who spoke on behalf of the investors, thanked states, Federal Government and other agencies that assisted the investors to succeed in getting their PPAs.
He expressed dissatisfaction with the low rate of the tariff regime in the sector, adding that the investors had expected high tariff in the energy industry.

HydrogenForest:
Do you want evidence on the tribe well known for incest and rape in this country?

MayorofLagos:
Hold on my brother, are you sying this bridge is not owned by Ibos All along i thought this bridge was built by dianyin. Who else get money and the ingenuity to construct bridge like this for this obodo Nigetia?

Yoruba don spent all their money on amala and ewedu doing owambe. Hausa has spent its money chewing goro and nama. Na only nwafor, the savior of Nigrria rich like this nau.

BrokenTV:
This is the reason why, I am really pissed with this country, gullible individuals. Recalling him based on an altercation with a woman that has no respect for her fellow human being. This kind of nonsense can not happen in the South East.

anyimontana:
bastard is on his period again,just negodu ihe unemployment na eme

porchetruth:
Look at this hopeless ignoramus blockhead idiot. Where did fashola get money. Do you know how much Lagos made per month? Also find out Igbo's percentage investment in Lagos. You are still leaving in 1800. People like you are not worth to be called Nigerian. You try to instigate division by your statements. What will you achieve. God will punish you. Anu ofia!!! What have you achieved your life? Am sure you are one uneducated illiterate living under bridge in Lagos. Am sure you even stole that phone you are using to browse. Idiotic fool.

Sermwell:
This is really myopic and pathetic of you if someone outside this shores is reading this nonsense you posted here would think 'tinubu' is the name of the constituency Dino is representing. You mean the people of kogi west will not be allowed to vote their representative come 2019 because tinubu exist? A man who is far away in lagos deciding the fate of people in kogi state? You must really think this your Tinubu is alfa and Omega! Please do something about this your slave mentality!

Sermwell:
I know you were going to call me an Ipob because they are the only ones who can identify a zombie! I'm a northerner and the kind of mentality you guys display on this forum is really sad!

Sermwell:
I would have called you a fool but you are already one.
There's no one in your generations who will ever be as successful as GEJ in his political carrier. Compare this man with your father In his chosen carrier and tell me if your father has attained what GEJ has attained in life. After you have done that, you can now call GEJ clueless! Useless animal!!!

ellovee:
It will be seen as stupidity of the century if Kogi people will allow their outspoken and courageous senator to be thrown out of the red chamber for his refusal to be intimidated by a female.
A slap on Sen Dino is a slap on the people of Kogi State whom he represents.