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Jakumo:
Next to Josef Stalin, Hitler and Pol Pot of Cambodia, the North Korean dictator dynasty, comprising this dead man and his dead father, systematically killed more of their own country's citizens than any other tyrants alive or dead.

There is an especially hot place in hell reserved for evil sadists like the Kim Dong Ills or whatever the phuck their names were. The network of slave labor camps and extermination/torture camps scattered all over North Korea have for DECADES been the final gruesome stop for MILLIONS of Koreans of both genders, and while that industrial scale slaughter was in progress, the entire nation was being slowly starved to death, under the orders of the "Beloved Leader" whose primary hobbies included chugging champagne and phucking under-age children.

The world is a far better place today, and North Korea should now ensure that NO member of that evil family is allowed near state power until the end of all time.

G.F.R Good Phucking Riddance. Today is a GOOD day. A VERY good day.

Nchara:
Yes Mbaise is more than 300K, the most populous area of Imo state. Could be up to 1 ml

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mbaise

not up to a million.the million in that link is probably the approximate no of indigenes both within and outside mbaise.

[quote author=emmastalwart, link=topic=827491.msg9792620#msg9792620 date=1324242706]Oh, "MBAISE" the land of promise and achievement, the land of hope and fulfiedment, Land filled with great men and women, young & old. Land of procreation and betterment full of beautifull creatures, , Live long Mbaise, Live long Imo state, Live long Federal Republic of Nigeria. Comr. Enyinnaya Emmanuel C (A.K.A) Emmastalwart[/quote]

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=827491.msg9792504#msg9792504 date=1324241148]
I don't need to go to mbaise. Mbaise is like a clan and moreover Imo state cannot house more than 300,000 mbaise people given that we have other clans in Imo.

Abeokute city could be considered to half of imo. isn't it[/quote]ignorance is bliss.i do not need to engage you any further.

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=827491.msg9792474#msg9792474 date=1324240631]you are comparing mbaise of 300,000 to abeokuta to 1 million + ?[/quote]who told you that mbaise is around 300000?have you been there before?abeokuta 1million?haha

dayokanu:
If we are to use infrastructures then many countries dont deserve to be a State in the US

Why would infrastructures be a criteria when we are discussing a continent like Africa.

The singular most important thing(about 80%) when Categorizing cities is the POPULATION.

Timbuktu was undoubtedly a city in the 1800 even though it didnt have Skyscrapers

hehe i wonder if then mbaise can be classified as a city.

scholes0:
This Nchara guy is being Delusional, compareing Okene , to  Idanre or some other unknown vicinity.

A city is MOSTLY defined on Basis of population.

BTW:That a place is a small town of 50,000, with all the Paved roads, Light rails, Bullet trains, high rises of this world, wont make it a city, if it doesen't have the required population,

so okene is a city by your definition?

chino11:
I always know that you will come up with your myopic views economic matters as usual. No wonder Ohakim left you guyz with huge mess all around you people. Does Imo state have more or better than Anambra state? But yet you guyz are more dressed down with[b] Rochas visionlessness[/b] nor any clue as to what running a government is about.

Back to the topic: Peter Obi is the type of material we need to move this country forward, because he know the deadly economic implication of taking loans. He has achieved much in Anambra without taking a single loan or going to bond market.

explain what you mean here

did someone write here that kano is not cosmopolitan? i laugh.

i believe in basic development first(good roads,learning facilities,security,agric avtivities etc)before any 'mega' project.

if people have started paying then it shows what will happen when subsidy is finally removed.all the noise about arab spring or afican summer na just noise.

NRI PRIEST:
Let me start with the die hard Ngwa boy; I have encountered Ngwa people in lagos,benin,jos and here in states. I even took math with one Ngwa boy who just relocated from Aba with his parents. I know when an Abia man speaks and when an Imo person talks. And that one about Ngwa ppl not fond of disclosing their identity to a stranger is a stinking lies that you tell to a shiit eating dog! Secondly, I never said the Ngwas that I have met spoke their "okwu“. So, calm down and read my post again.



Odumchi, I have never met an Aro man who spoke the original dialect but when I first saw what you wrote, I gradually read it and almost understood everything you wrote and this is a dialect I have never came across before. I will tell you unequivocally  that the reason why you called what I wrote "mbegiri,mbegiri" is because you are not willing to read it but you expect me an Anambrarian to understand your little known Aro dialect.
99% of ANAIGBO understands the Idenmili/Onicha dialect and thats what I speak and originated from.
As for the translation,NEDU210 has translated almost everything; "rinne" means; in abundance or in a bunch.
" Nya" means;let it. The phrase "nke onye chilu nya zelu" simply refers to when you are greeting a group of people especially in Anambra where we have lots of titled men as a result of NZE na OZO, you probably wont wanna greet every single person there in their titled name,so,in other to greet this ppl in a nutshell you will say "nke onye chilu ya zelu",who loosely means; I greet everybody in their titled name and class. See me, Igbo hardooo!

and this is necessary?

it has been a long time coming for cosmos onyeneke.

Imo Assembly Strips Traditional Ruler Of Title
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Sat, 17/12/2011 - 10:19am | STANLEY UZOARU

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The Imo State House of Assembly yesterday passed a motion suspending the chairman, South East Council of Traditional Rulers, Eze Cletus Ilomuanya, for alleged criminal activities, after an executive session.

The State Assembly prior to the suspension was said to have summoned the traditional ruler to clear himself of an allegation brought to it by one Ekechukwu, who is a subject of the Monarch and who claimed that the royal father has been bringing shame to the community having being previously convicted of a criminal activity.

Ilomuanya who was said to be absent at the Adhoc Committee meeting of the House, was represented by his lawyer, Mr. Declan Madu, who however did not deny the allegation leveled against his client.

The monarch it would be recalled have not been having a rosy relationship with the state government as he was removed as the state chairman of traditional rulers immediately after the exit of the immediate past government.

LEADERSHIP WEEKEND also gathered that the suspended monarch was due to confer a chieftaincy title on the Senate president, David Mark on Sunday, December 18, 2011.

In a related development, another monarch, Eze Cosmos Onyeneke from Lagwa autonomous community in Aboh Mbaise local government area of the state was also suspended by the House for an alleged conspiracy of crime in his area of jurisdiction.

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odumchi:
Onwa o ngeni? What's all this?

Seriously, you guys are too funny. There's an element of truth in what most of you guys are saying. In reference to Chinenye's statement it is true that many Ngwa people won't tell you that they're Ngwa until you either:
A) ask
or
B) go to their homes.
A family friend of mine came to my house and we both conversed in Igbo. She spoke Umuahia dialect/Central Igbo while I spoke Arochukwu. In my mind, I was thinking that she was from Umuahia or Imo state. At her home, I felt like I was in Osisioma Ngwa. I was surprised to find out that she spoke pure Ngwa to her children and what not but to non-Ngwa she spoke Central Igbo. So yeah, its not only Ngwa that are like that but most Igbos. When with others, they speak Central Igbo but when in the midst of their own they speak their dialects.

As for you Nri Priest, I have to admit, I find Idenmilli interesting and "sweet" in it's own way. Normally, Anamra dialects are easy to understand but they have their exceptions. In reference to what you wrote: what's "rinne"? Is it the same as "nile"? And when you wrote "onye chilu ya zelu", is it the same thing as "onye chiri ya zere"? And lastly what significance does that statement have. I understand the literal but what's is the idiomatic expression behind it?

reminds me of a friend i grew up in owerri with.he is from ohafia but spoke the general igbo been spoken in owerri but whenever i visit his home and he starts discussing with his parents i would not be able to understand 50% of what they are saying

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=791957.msg9787872#msg9787872 date=1324165996]Where did you get that from? That is not what the spreadsheet says. Click the link.[/quote]seen

[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=791957.msg9787847#msg9787847 date=1324165584]The #s from that document are from a presentation made by the very same senator discussed in the OP's article. Part of his presentation was made publicly available.[/quote]so the senator believes that the igr of imo is higher that that of ogun?i find that hard to believe.

[quote author=Bandit C. link=topic=826991.msg9787827#msg9787827 date=1324165347]Sorry my brother but i am usually not this way. I even rarely contribute to insults among Igbos unless it is external aggression but that Chino guy has been running loose on these boards and is not controlled or cautioned by anybody including the lame duck ''eze ndi igbo bla bla'' Only Truth or whatever he calls himself. The Chino guy has been insulting Imo people, Abia people, Ebonyi people, even though he lives in a State that can be virtually termed a gutter, but he and his Anambra goons wanted to try that on Enugu and i'm just letting him know that, that ish won't fly. It would be suicide for them to even give it a thought.

See how they are banding together but being picked off one by one. I can do this with them any day until Enugu leaves their mouths.

I have got my Acog Scope on any monkey who even attempts that crap with Coal City. These guys should fix their state before taking a shot at others. Hypocrites.[/quote]only truth has actually cautioned him before only for chino to insult him.hey it is cyberspace so no one can stop chino from typing.he also uses the followin ids

okparaigbo,chy101,igboamaka and ohaneze1

[quote author=Ejiné link=topic=791957.msg9787792#msg9787792 date=1324164896]Mr Chino, my dear, whenever I read your posts, all I see are pointless empty boasts with absolutely zero evidence to back them up.
Here's the ranking of Nigerian states by their IGR in billions:

(1) Rivers >>> 184.5
(2) Lagos >>> 182.8
(3) Akwa-Ibom >>> 144.5
(4) Delta >>> 124.1
(5) Bayelsa >>> 89.5
(6) Kano >>> 51.7
(7) Ondo >>> 46.1
(8.) Oyo >>> 41.1
(9) Edo >>> 40.9
(10) Kaduna >>> 40.8
(11) Abia >>> 37.7
(12) Imo >>> 35.7
(13) Ogun >>> 35.6
(14) Benue >>> 35.3
(15) Kwara >>> 34.1
(16) Katsina >>> 33.2
(17) Niger >>> 32.3
(18) Borno >>> 31.9
(19) Cross river >>> 31.8
(20) Gombe >>> 31.7
(21) Bauchi >>> 31.6
(22/23) Anambra >>> 30
(22/23) Jigawa >>> 30
(24/25) Sokoto >>> 29.2
(24/25) Adamawa >>> 29.2
(26) Kebbi >>> 28.9
(27) Osun >>> 28.6
(28) Kogi >>> 28.4
(29) Plateau >>> 28.1
(30) Taraba >>> 28
(31) Enugu >>> 27.7
(32) Zamfara >>> 27.5
(33) Yobe >>> 26.3
(34 Nasarrawa >>> 23.8
(35) Ekiti >>> 23.6
(36) Ebonyi >>> 22.8

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&key=0AsNUaGBnBF1KdFpfNEVNNDYtSzBhRk1HT2tuRDlMUFE&hl=en_US&gid=2

You must really think Nairaland is some playpen where you can practice your wishful thoughts.
Oh well, hope this effectively shuts you up. [/quote]ejine seriously though how come imo state's IGR is bigger than ogun state ?

Nchara:
is Asha 80
How much of a city is Zaria, even by Nigerian standard?

well i cannot say but from map outline i think it follows

kaduna has kaduna city and zaria.

Onlytruth:
I tend to think that Peter Obi is somehow irresponsible; not in managing money o. He is not responsible enough to understand the CURRENT possibilities of Anambra state. He sees himself as this village headmaster making sure that basic things are provided prudently.
A great administrator would still be financially prudent, provide basic infrastructure, and still transform the urban cities of Anambra state.
Also Anambra is yet to develop "happy hour" infrastructure which attract people to want to live there.
I expect a great Anambra governor to ingeniously mobilize private capital to develop new areas.
I think they've started developing the "Anam New City", but it would take a while to attract enough attention.

anam city is a private initiative not government.

if you ask me anambra is paying the price of not having a previous governor(including old anambra state) that desinged any form of masterplan for onitsha at least giving that nnewi and awka might not have gotten prominence at that time.

what i am trying to say is this at that time i am sure enugu already had a plan.so what stopped nwobodo from designing another one for the second important city of onitsha?remember that sam mbakwe designed for umuahia,aba and owerri at the same time.yes aba has detoriated badly(due to incomptence of both civilian and military guys that came later) but at least it has a template to work on.onitsha has none until now.ask yourself why did other former anambra governors from 1991 not deem it fit to draw a master plan for onitsha let alone awka and nnewi.

obi has done it.it is left for an incoming one to implement it(that is if thinking of continium  matters to will come next).obi might have his reasons for trying to uplift the rural areas.remember too that there are other important competing needs that sucks money especially education.

manny4life:
It's cool you don't have such information, however, that is my whole point; you don't start putting infrastructures in place when you haven't given people a reason to establish a local presence first. In the cycle of economy, people need to have a reason to establish a presence first (service, finance, entertainment, agriculture industries,  government, etc), after such presence has been established, then there's a need and reason for infrastructures.


Rivers/Lagos/Anambra/Abia already created reasons to establish a presence. Rivers is an oil state, Lagos is the center of it all because because made it that way, Anambra on the other hand is into manufacturing/capital base[b], while Abia takes the center front of all types and capability of manufacturing (I might be wrong with my analysis and I'm open to correction).[/b] Therefore, infrastructures is paramount to the future progression of these states, building infrastructures without identifying your niche industry, without giving people a reason to to establish a presence is so dangerous, high risk alert.


This is where the "What-If", a significant part of risk comes into play. Just because IMO built a $100 million tunnel (road and rail), doesn't mean I will relocate or establish a presence in IMO, nor pay taxes or tolls in IMO, something has to spur me( a niche industry/field(s). Now, that's my own argument all along which is why I asked, HOW DOES IMO CITIZENS AND IT'S GOVERNMENT INTEND TO PAY THEIR DEBT WHEN THEIR IGR IS REALLY LOW?


Let's put into perspective, assume IMO gov identifies their industries as Tourism/Travel, Entertainment/Recreation and Services (health care), if gov is gradually developing all these industries with minimal loans rather than massive debts, don't you think it will make perfect sense that he can gradually generate revenues from here? As people come to the states, IMO generate revenue. If IMO builds Sea-World with classy teaching and research education facilities, don't you think Sea-World will have close to 1/4 million visitors annually?

you are not wrong in abia's analysis

that is my fear for borrowing for a state like imo state.anambra and abia can afford to do that because they have carved a nich for themselves where wealth can be generated but for imo it is not yet clear though.

Nchara:
Odi kwa mma? See me praising Enugu and you are here accusing me of starting an argument?

well banditc does not see it that way hence the argurement.go back to when you made that statement and you will see that that is where the argurement started.

ak47mann:
make somebody go slap peter obi, Chris uba and esele enu ego the touts, they are enemy of progress help by monkey OBJ to make sure anambra state remain stagnant  

you lucky to have peter obi actually.

Nchara:
How so?

by saying this

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Re: Polo Park - Enugu's First Mall Steps Out
« #99 on: Today at 08:17:30 PM »

Enugu is the 4th poorest state in Igboland, yet her people can obviously afford to buy from the MALL (otherwise investors won't invest there). You can imagine when the Govts of Abia, Anambra and Imo-states whose average inhabitants are wealthier than those in Enugu - will wake up to similar strides?

Owerri guys will show true class here

Nchara:
One problem with Anambra is that most of the intellectuals are outside the state, allowing the less intellectual traders and money bags to hold sway

In contrast, Enugu has a good # of its intellectuals intact but is hamstrung by lack of adequate capital

i have noticed that.

ak47mann:
Jim nwaobodo go and ask him what happen to nkalagu cement,when anambra was mapped out from enugu state,he was the first governor to send none indigence back to their state,and sack all anambra people from nkalagu cement factory,after that the factory didn't last 2yrs enugu state people run it down,their is no way you can compare onitsha and nnewi to enugu state,onitsha alone have more banks than the entire Enugu state,enugu is mostly civil servant.

When you look at  anambra state, you will found out that onicha nnewi akwa are mostly ebony and enugu state renting properties from ingenious.Onitsha became an important trading port for the Royal Niger Company in the mid 1850s and it had remain so, onitsha got a lot of self made millionaires in any currency.

ak47man don enter  

Nchara:
Bandit C.

Take am easy oh! The way you respond would make anyone believe you have an angst with Anambra people

Enugu city (not state) is the most developed in SE for obvious reasons
That is where it ends:
There is more money in Abia, Anambra and Imo than in Enugu. There are more literate people in these places too than in Enugu. All the available data (Nigeria is poor in data management, I agree) points to that.

Let's stop this digression I beg.

i hope you know say na you start this argurement.maybe it is time people think before typing

goggs:
Indians are resisting multi national owned malls coming into India cos it will wipe off tens of thousands of jobs for shop owners but here in naija we refuse to think ahead we are just clapping for them. if they really want to help Nigeria let 90% of their goods be made in Nigeria Nigeria and let them be listed on the stock exchange. the pictures may look nice the economics of it isn't.

food for thought.

Onlytruth:
I thoroughly mulled over what I'm about to say now because I don't want to add fuel to the fire burning down the unity of Igboland. Nevertheless this information is important and would help give insight about this mall.
My initial fear about it is encapsulated in my little analyses below.

I therefore swear, that everything I shall say below is the TRUTH, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
So help me God.

About Enugu city:

Enugu is my "home" town, as it is the same for every Eastern Nigerian. So, I would not lie against it.

Right now, with me, is a lady visitor (an indigene of Enugu state) who come to spend Christmas with us here in the States. She was there when this mall opened and (being of high income status) she frequented there before coming to visit us here. She owns a hotel on Chime Avenue in Enugu. She tells me that Enugu babes now shop once at Shoprite, and then save the plastic bag. When next they go to Ogbete main market, they brandish the bag along the way as if they just shopped at Shoprite! It is allowed now.

When I inquired after her hotel and business generally, she told me pointblank, "Ego adiro na Enugu" (there is no money in Enugu). She was saying it with some sadness in her voice. She told me that Enugu is a "civil servant town".
Her hotel (quite a great looking hotel ) charges from N6000 to N15,000 (lowest to highest rooms). At that point, I recalled that a hotel (far less in quality) was charging a minimum of N10,000 in Nnewi.
I consoled her and told her that we are lobbying the federal government seriously for the Enugu International Airport to come on stream fast so we can locate businesses in Enugu. I tried my best to convince her to stay in Enugu and wait for the coming transformation. She says that Enugu is changing daily though and things are moving up slowly for the town (she reassured me to keep faith).

I hope that some of my Enugu state brothers understand that Enugu is not just an Enugu state property, just like Onitsha is not only an Anambra state property. We are ALL developing it and lobbying for federal government projects to be located in them (river port at Onitsha and airport at Enugu). It is the height of idiocy for any individual to come and start beating chest over what we all achieved together both in Onitsha and Enugu.

About Onitsha city:

It is clear fact that Onitsha is batting far below capacity due to the strategy of development ( I say ineptitude ) of Peter Obi administration in Anambra state. Yes, Peter Obi is developing rural Anambra state, but what about the urban cities? Ha emelu aru? Who says that he cannot develop BOTH urban and rural part of the state simultaneously?

Another thing is that Onitsha needs to host at least ONE University, because the level of illiteracy in that town is appalling. That is what gives the impression that there is no money in Onitsha, when in fact it may have more private money than any other Eastern town. One University located there would gradually change the population and create an educated residents who can set up corporate businesses more.

Here I stand.

money needed to fund the masterplans of those cities seem to be high though.

illiteracy in onitsha is more of poor secondary school education than having a university in my own opinion unless you are talking of having an ansu campus in onitsha rather than having a whole new university built.

[quote author=Bandit C. link=topic=826991.msg9787109#msg9787109 date=1324158014]Which Awka is bubbling, please do not make me laugh. One of the dullest capital in the east. It doesn't even look like a capital just a couple of buildings, some roundabouts and flowers, finish.

I ask you again, is building tightly packed 4 storey buildings riddled with filth your definition of development? Ask any body from anywhere in Nigeria if they would rather live in Enugu State or Anambra State and you would be surprised at the answer.

Nsukka is a titan and can hold it's own against any town in Anambra. Nsukka is a developed LGA that houses the biggest University in Nigeria and whose sons and daughters are some of the most educated in Igbo land so Nsukka is fine.

If you have no idea, development begins with good roads and others follow and in that area, Enugu State has an A. You people should first create means through which peeps can access your towns and then we can come and view the alleged development in your cities.

I am from Nkanu and the road from my house in Enugu Urban up to the door step of my House in the village is tarred and clean so i would take that over congested four storey buildings, bad odour and mass illiteracy.

We do not gloat over material things and we spend money like people who actually have a functioning brain so materialism which reigns supreme in Anambra is laughable to us in Enugu. Fact still remains that Enugu State is much more pleasant place to be anytime of the year than Anambra. How many Enugu people do you see living in Anambra but you guys are crowding our cities here with that local gidi gidi business mentality. Thank you but we prefer to stay educated and simple.

Enugu has less population and more land mass than Anambra so it wouldn't be a mystery to know that cities won't be congested with four-storey buildings coupled with bad air and odour. They live free and you may not know but we love our lives that way.

We tend to, most of the time, elect intellects to power who can actually perform (see Jim Nwobodo and Sullivan Chime excluding Chimaroke), and not thugs and local business men like Anambra.

You people ought to be ashamed of yourselves, even with all your Soludo and Akunyili, Anambra remains in perpetual state of under-development and over bloated sense of importance.
Honestly, we do not see you people the way you think we do so hush it.[/quote]jim nwobodo actually contributed to the state onitsha foundd itself.

ak47mann:
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Actor Nkem 'Osuofia' Owoh Completes Owerri Mansion, Valued At N500 Million

what concerns this with the this thread?

Onlytruth:
I wonder what they gain by these stoopid local fights. 
When the real fight with outsiders come, most of them run away.

Believe me, our brothers are very very stoopid! 

it has to do with unecessary boasting,gorilla like chestbeating and having poor reflective thinking

round one begin; fight!