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Uyi Iredia: I have since being arguing that atheism is a religion. And atheists have done nothing tangible to convince me otherwise.

Yawn

You can argue all you want but it is clear that atheism isnt a religion.

berylLOL: ofcos this is just not right but there are more Pastors out there who dont do such.

I didnt say all.

6 have died already in the UK. Imagine how many are dying in Nigeria.

Uyi Iredia: A good snapshot of what atheism portends.

Yawn.

All humans die. So unless the body is cremated i guess it will happen to all.

Logicboy03: Thank you!


However, the 2013 agenda is not for politics. Read it again. It is for us to better people and create solutions to religious nonsense

I think we are doing a good job as it is. If you want us to share literature etc so we can all debate certain areas then yes.

I thought you did well.

I thought Obadiah, anony and frosbel would have been above you but you surpassed them.

In regards to 2013 agenda, i have no plans. As I am not a politician I will be free with my debates and criticisms. I am hoping no one deems me fit to build a statue or monument for. Once I become saddled with that burden then I am truly screwed

obalola7: It depends on what you call fool. A mad man saw a vision and told the one who thinks he is wise what will befall him and wise man ignore him, because he thinks he was a fool and a mad man.
Few days later, the mad man prophesy came to pass. We can now determine who was a fool among the two.

In another scenario, a mad man took the cloths of a wise man when he was taking shower and the wise man ran after the mad man to the market naked, at this point, there is no doubt the fool among the two is obvious.

And neither example relate to the topic at hand

berylLOL: well do what you know how to do best..open a thread against pastors doing such(if you've not done dt already) as for me, I wont go about judging Men of God..especially when I've not come across a pastor who has told a dying Man not to see a doctor.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14406818

There are other similar stories too

berylLOL: thank God you said SOME..

It is always some. But the ones that do it are a catastrophe for xtianity. It should not be overlooked.

berylLOL: lol, don't worry, he's coming back soon.. I pray you change your mindset before then atheist.

I wont hold my breath.

advocate666: Or maybe we are the aliens and others are afraid of us. Who knows.

Yeah right. We can barely leave our planet. Who would be afraid of us

Uyi Iredia: In a sense He has. Did you conveniently forget Jesus Christ.

I forgot.

You are a trinitarian. Others might argue otherwise.

By the way I refer to this present day.

Logicboy03: God has never healed amputees. No record of that.


The hardest healing to fake and God is nowhere. When recording devices became commercial, appearances of God, Jesus and Mary stopped happening

Ppl went on hearsay back then. Now with technology ppl are cautious. Hence no REAL cases of amputees receiving restored limbs.

Frostyzone: You think like a human, which you are. But they ain't. Maybe, by observing us, they are learning our ways, the way we think, etc.
And maybe the definition of invasion to them is slightly different from ours.
Maybe their own version of invasion is more like assimilation.
There are many possibilities pal, many possibilities.

Regardless. Thw key to an invasion/assimilation is to ensure they take over with minimum hassle. The logical way to do such would be to expose oneself minimally. The way they go about things I would assume they are not that intelligent.

Frostyzone: Sound fantastic, doesn't it? But if alien life forms should decide to evade earth tomorrow, they would like to know our resistance capability first, right?
That's where scouts come into the picture.
And what is one quality of a scout/spy; Remain hidden while you observe your enemy.

Yeah.. but the problem is they are not hidden. Even the abrahamic god has done a bettet job of hiding than they have.

If they wanted to invade, there are a gazillion strategies to employ without exposing themselves.

Image123: that's not the 'agreement'. Tell me the five you want me to answer and stop dragging this like you don't really want an answer.

Ok.

Answer the first five

GARRI (x7):
In my area we have 30hrs of uninterrupted power supply daily.

I've sold off ny generator set....

A bit hasty. Maybe you ought to wait a few months to be certain.

Uyi Iredia: @ OP: I think the greatest miracle of all is the universe which God created. What miracle could possibly best that ?

If God could show himself. That would be the best miracle of all

seyibrown: Very close to the point some did not deduce from my argument. An amputee is not necessarily a diseased person who requires medication to heal his disease (not ruling out that his limb may have been amputated as a result of a disease but curing that disease will itself not restore/regrow that limb). An amputee is a person with a missing limb who requires(if he wants it, as I have met people who would rather remain as they are because it serves them a purpose) restoration/replacement of the limb. Even in the, medical world, medication heals diseases and transplants replace/restore missing organs.

Yes. But it does not answer the question why cant an amputee be given the limb back?

inurmind: Many people have claimed to have had contact with them, and all those videos of ufo's have got to account for something.
Also, many people believe they were here early on, that they were even the original gods, and they have shocking evidence to prove it.

I dont buy it. A lot of ppl claim to have had spiritual visitations too.

If these aliens exist and have come to earth... what for? Why kidnap and ana.lly probe farmers? Everything about is available free without the need to risk allowing themselves to be noticed.

berylLOL: so you are trying to say christians stop other christians from going to hospitals?

Not only xtians, there are some pastors, prophets and faith healers who do such.

Image123: i'll take it that those are your answers. did you read my part of the so called 'agreement'?

i said "you're bargaining? okay, I'll answer 5 of your questions that you deem important, with Scripture as i think fit."


So, again, What are the 5 questions you deem important?

Apologies. I thought you were after more questions.

You can pick any 5 you want.

Affiliated: Before life on earth started there should have been life elsewhere for many billions of years. There's life all over the universe. There would be those that are more advanced than us

An assumption.

Life elsewhere YES
More intelligent POSSIBLY

There is no way to know umtil we have contact.

Are there any agnostics in the house?

Agnostics are the logical route. Because truthfully there will always be a miniscule element of doubt in any evidence provided to disprove the existence of deities. Agnosticism is an appropriate and most likely balanced stance on the whole deity issue.

I should have been an agnostic but.... I just dont feel it. I feel and believe that is without certainty no God, gods, spirit world, supernatural etc. I am an extreme atheist.

Why not just summarise and post it?

I have my own theory for Muhammad.

Dan_de_Numeruno: Whether you are Christian or atheist, know this:
Another life is going on in another galaxy, some thousand light years away from our own galaxy, the milky way.

Whether you want to accept it or out, aliens do exist and they are watching you!!!

They might not be as intelligent as us so how can we gurantee that they are watching us?

truthislight: sorry then.

I can still remember reading your post that you said you were a former catholic, that you had attended other churches does not possibly change the fact that you were a former catholic

If that is how you want to play I was a catholic for 2 yrs while very young. I was an Anglican 8 yrs and baptised, I was a mormon for 2 yrs and varying pentecostal churches probably 10 yrs.

So calling me a former catholic is insidious as you have chosen to neglect my other xtian backgrounds.

OlaAjia: If the bolded above refers to sane subjects, then I disagree with it as much as I would disagree with an individual being charged for murder for encouraging a sane person to jump inside fire.

Really. Then we will have a lot of ppl being 'encouraged' to avoid hospitals and proper treatment at risk of their life. Ppl have to be made accountable for thier actions.

Also, even sane ppl have periods where they are confused and weak and can be exploited. An ill person will clearly be less emotionally and psychologically balanced than when they are well (due to despair).

inspiredbyGOD:.:
They all fall under the same category. What is so special about homosexuality that it has to be singled out?

Homosexuals are NOT the same as rapists and paedophiles.....

Just brilliant logic there.

edogho: did you just say you have had a little experience and still ask for evidence? I guess you are lying. You haven't seen what i've seen. You might call it nonsense buh if you want to get initiated you know what to do since you are a nigerian. That is if you are dead interested in evidence .

Figure of speech. Very little equates to none

But you understand my line of thought. It isnt about the problems with xtianity. If so I sjould have gone to another religion.

Tgirl4real: U think so? They are only just beginning.

That cant be good for xtianity surely? The sooner xtianity moves on from these foul practices the better.

What happened to all the good that xtianity was about? The charitable works etc? The focus now seems to be too much on tithing.

berylLOL: you can't just generalize mehn..what is wrong with you?, that you feel something is doesn't mean it is.

That is the way it works. For someone to be ill and refuse to go to hospital is suicide. Anyone who encourages them not to go should be charged with murder.

inspiredbyGOD:.:
Okay, let's put the bible aside.
*neatly tucks bible into bag*
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Do you need a soothsayer to know that the male organ (pen.is) was meant for the female organ (vag.ina)? Even animals know this truth.
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O ye atheists, don't become blinded by your hate for GOD so that you lose every sense of morality. What is wrong is wrong and that's final.

They have every right to live their life as they see fit. As long as they are not harming anyone. Why dont you turn your attention to rapists and paedophiles and point the scripture at them.