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rottennaija:
Damages for saving a child's life? I'll remind you of this post. Shey JWs branch will take up the case? Let's see

don't worry I will help with d reminder.....we can follow each other on naira land so that when d case end we will be able to reach each other...do u think it is only in Nigeria parents refuse blood for their minor? Why hasn't d govt of other countries sieze d child from d parents...let me give u a brief story in the u.s concerning this blood transfusion and jw.....over 40-50 years ago, this same type of case came up and the medical team forced the child to take blood against d will of the parents, they sued the medical team and u know what, they won. Not only did jw won, they also worked hand in hand with hospitals in the u.s to find alternative treatments for people needing blood maybe during surgeries or what av u and infact in a documentary aired sometime ago in the u s(u will see d video on YouTube) u will see some medical practitioners happy that Jehovah's witnesses refused blood cos it made them research on safer ways of treating people without the use of blood....if u are in d u s and u av any issue concerning blood transfusion just tell them u are a jw and see how they will quickly help u do arrangements of ur own treatment and even call the religion medical team.....no u .s doc will ever think of transfusing blood for a minor without d consent of the parents cos d law says the parents has the right to choose whatever medical treatment he want for the child .....mind u , cos this Nigeria parents said Dy don't want transfusion doesn't mean they said Dy don't want d child to be treated...my guy the story long but Lagos State govt will lose the case. Mark my words

Hairyrapunzel:
You baby killer is the one making a fool of himself. Your gb can't refuse blood transfusion on their neonates because their govt will not allow it

how many of these cases av u heard of

Hairyrapunzel:
Says the law. When healthcare givers feel the babies require a treatment parents or caregivers do not approve of they take over care of the babies.

You don't even think children have a right to get healthcare? Lol

If children didn't have any rights not that lagos state govt wouldn't have been able to take over care of the patients

Your patient is your number 1 priority so saving the child's life is what is most important

u don't even know that parents have the right to pick what medical treatment they want for their child...u don't know that if a parent says he doesn't want so so thing the medical personal has no right to force d parents....just like an individual has d right to pick what form of treatment he wants, so is a parent having the right to pick what medical treatment he want for a minor....Lagos State govt will lose the case ......do u know how many of this cases happen in the United state? How many have u heard that d doc forced the blood transfusion for d child when d parents says no....you all claiming u know the law saying rubbish out of sentiment...the parents saying they don't want blood those not mean Dy want d child to die, they only ask for alternative treatment which could av been gotten had it been the hospital coperate with them and their religion....

donprinyo:
Also the fact dat u are born in a Christian, Muslim or not religious is not compulsory u should follow suit. A child dat wants to live should be allowed to live. Freedom of life is guaranteed to any law abiding human beings.

when the child is 18 bro.....have u not heard about that before

donprinyo:
Broda, since u prefer a dead child to a live one, government is taking custody of this child. Let the parents go and bury the dead ones in the mortuary. Simple. God bless lagos state government

no one want dead child ...all they asked for was alternative treatment....the Lagos State govt via the mumu organization is taking aa case they won't win ....the child will be returned back to d parents. Hate the religion all u like, but it won't change d law. The head of d organization allowed hatred of the religion teaching to blind him/her and took a rash decision....what does parents did,happens everywhere in d world and never has d govt or hospital thought of forcing d baby to take blood or d govt to sieze d child. So na Nigeria we Sabi law pass abi? Watch how the case will unfold...u might not hear this story again, but the child will be released back to d parents and the Lagos State govt will lose the case and maybe pay for damages cos the case will now be taken up by the religious organization (Jehovah's witnesses worldwide) there are already prepared law advocates for cases like this and also medical teams for cases that involves blood transfusion. There are many things you all don't know about Jehovah's witnesses.... just cos of ur hatred for them, u won't know

Chi59:
Shut the fvck up. There's freedom of belief so long as it doesn't harm another person.

I think u should shut d Bleep up cos had it been u know the law, u would av been aware that parents has d right to choose whatever medical care they want and don't want for their child so for the child is below 18.....the parents saying they wanted alternative treatment rather than blood transfusion wasn't against the law... The person that took over d case was just overzealous and trust me, Jehovah's witnesses will take that case to court, the parents will get custody of their child back and the organization will pay damages most especially if anything happens to that child after the blood transfusion they av done . That is when u will know that before jw can take decision in that way even in the u s of America that they don't play with the safety of children, they really must av d backing of d law....this thing the parents did, they do it often in d u s ooo....many jw parents had refused blood for their children, unfortunately some died, but never has d govt thought of collecting the child and forcing the child to take blood all in d name of "not harming"

virago:
The parents ought to be jailed

lol the funniest thing is that the Lagos State govt will be sued and they will pay for damages....the parent has the right to decide what medical treatment their child gets....the govt has no say in it. The child act law sef doesn't forbid them from choosing what treatment their child gets. Stop being ignorant and living in a "follow the crowd" mentality. Jehovah's witnesses will take over the case and make lagos state pay for damages and the parents will get back their child...if the Lagos State govt do rubbish, it will be taken to the international court of law. And the govt will be compelled to follow it. Do u know how many u.s witnesses that makes this decision that this parent took? How many did u hear that their children was given d treatment their parents didn't want? Or u will tell me Nigerians apply law than the u.s govt? The point is the law doesn't kick against what the parents did and u guys might not hear about this again, Lagos State govt will return the child and will beg for it to be low key, and Jehovah's witnesses that don't like wahala will help the Lagos State govt leave d case but make sure they get full custody of the child back and pay for damages

Hairyrapunzel:
A doctor makes the best decision for patients in terms of modalities of treatment. Your gb can't be telling us of alternatives to ebt in a patient who needs it when there has never been any research done on alternative in the index patients age group.


Children, babies and pregnant women are not used as lab rats.

oga say what you know and Don't make a fool of urself.....do research and u will know about other alternatives without blood transfusion

Lol dumbest move.... Jehovah's witnesses are the most law abiding religious group and always try as much as possible to follow the rules of the land.... Jehovah's witnesses branch will take over the case, and the Lagos State govt will be sued and they will pay for it...the parents will take back the custody of the child. This same decision that this parent took is something jw parents in the u.s take on regular basis and never has the u.s govt thought of taking away d child all in d name of child right....the woman in charge of that org and Lagos State govt are Ill advised and the case is thrash....Lagos State will loss this case and will pay for damages

[quote author=proprince post=85485044]My friend you dnt know what you are saying.

Who told you Britain will not back US?
Do you know how close Boris Johnson and Trump are. Was it not Britain that recently seized an Iranian oil ship when Trump asked them to?

Will Israel not also back US?

Will Saudi Arabia not also back US?? Saudi has been looking for ways to revenge what Iran did to them last three months.


Will South Korea not also back the US?


Iranian economy is so weak right now that they cannot even go to was with the US.
US sanctions has so killed their economy. [/quote lol u will be shocked that is when you will know war is different from u are my padi mafo....every country has their issues they are facing so u think they will leave their issue to help fight another person war? So who do you think China Russia nk Japan, even Germany. will back? Who do you think all those terrorist and militias and rebels will back? U.S is already compromised, their citizens will suffer it big. Even their citizens are against what Trump did. Cos he just placed u s citizen life in jeopardy. Do you know how many war the u.s are fighting right now?

marvin906:
I fear Israel more than the US..
Iran can't withstand an attack from Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the US..
unless China, Russia and maybe turkey back them up..

what is giving u d notion that Saudi will back u.s? And what makes u think isreal is more dangerous? Lol must of you guys that call yourself xtian believe isreal is still d most powerful and still has God's backing in war. Funny. Let this war even happen and see where isreal will end up

marvin906:
stop.overhyping the US please..
in conventional war the US is gonna win buh it won't be easy have done alot of study on iran military and they aren't push over's one on one they will take out Saudi Arabia even will all the money Saudi Arabia are throwing on weapons..buh in an uncoventional war the US has no chance

and Iran and Muslim community will give them both at the same time....u.s soil is already infiltrated. Infact anything can happen. Infact what they did was ill adviced...

philip0906:
It won't be worse than what we've seen before...Iraq war, war in Syria, Yemen etc

Remember, Israel has been looking for an opportunity to go at Iran...and they will be itching their fingers in anticipation for a show down they have so craved.

guy stop shouting isreal this isreal that when the thing blows fully, isreal too will pack.....do you know how many enemies u.s has? Or you think Russia will back the u.s? Even Germany will stay on d sideline. Britain will stylishly Dodge cos this tension and dust was uncall for....sleeper cells of terrorist in d u.s will spring up and attack. So u.s will battle domestic and outside threat at once. China won't back the u.s North Korea will use the opportunity to flex muscle. Japan still want a give back. So will isreal put nose? Very unlikely cos they av their own issue with Pakistan..infact u are looking at a bloody war

Captiveportal:
Modified

If you notice in recent times people are beginning to question religion more (Christian and Muslim) cos at some point it doesn't make sense dying for stuff that you're not too sure about the reward is, how many of y'all have taken a trip to heaven and back? None...so build your own heaven here while you can cos I ain't sure what I'll see on the other side

which makes our faith as Jehovah's witnesses stronger cause it is a sign that the end is drawing ever nearer and that the Bible is truly the word of God.... It has been written in the Bible, and it will surely happen. A time will come when Babylon the great, the great harlot (false religion) will be destroyed by those she has prostituted herself with(political leaders and all), false religion av meddled with political affairs and war and other things of the world, but very soon just has u av said, the govt will turn against religion and blame her for the mess happening to the world and people will shun religion. The true religion will be partially affected too tho. A time when the world will shout peace and security then the great tribulation will start, but God will always have his people's back. Then the end will come.

englishmart:
1.Jesus is the only way to God, John 14:6
This invariably means those who don't believe in Jesus have no business in heaven.
Christians worldwide have an estimated population of 2.4billion people
Islam records an estimate of 1.9 billion adherents, Hindu has an estimated 1.1bn adherents. The remaining world's population have their own beliefs which includes atheism.
If Jesus is the only way to God, what happens to those who don't believe in him? Hell? Well, the Bible suggests so.

2. There are a lot of complications and contradictory remarks in the Bible- a verse says don't drink, another says "Drink for your stomach sake", or "Do not drink wherein excess."
Malachi 3:10 a famous Bible verse on tithing speaks about bringing your tithe to the storehouse (church, maybe)
Deuteronomy 14:22-26 says otherwise, it says "you should drink and be merry with your tithe". I'm seriously beginning to doubt the credibility of the Bible. Maybe the translators' fault or God told writers different stories on the same issue. Read Matthew, Mark, Luke and John's account of Jesus and see real contradictions.

3. Does God answer prayers? Well, I'm not really sure about that. Someone might be suffering from malaria, the person takes drugs and still prays, the drugs work, but the person thanks God. Or a successful surgical operation, instead of thanking the doctor, they thank God. Some illnesses that would have been treated led to deaths because a certain congregation who were supposed to take the ill persons to the hospital, circled around praying. Faith without work isn't it still dead?
I remember when I had stomach ulcer, it was really terrible, I prayed and made several promises to God that if He took away the ulcer, I'd drink no more alcohol and will be more devout in worshipping Him. That didn't solve anything though, I stopped drinking and took to taking my drugs more seriously. Weeks later, I was well. I returned to drinking and after a few months, the ulcer resurfaced. That was when I realized I really needed to quit drinking. Prayers wouldn't have solved that issue.
I spent 80% of 2019 at home because of my misgivings about God's existence.
I really wish I could be convinced about God's existence because I'm not even happy to be away from Church because of the views of friends and family.

4. Children of God, or so called children of God tend to suffer more tribulations, hard times and desperate moments, a lot of them scream "Vanity upon Vanity" when secular people live in luxury or spend extravagantly. God tends to turn his back on those who worship Him especially when they need Him most.
The 1933 Holocaust and mass murder of Jews to the tone of 6m was a clear indication that God turns His eyes against His people
Repulsive comments are highly welcome

let me give u an assignment....visit jw.org, am very certain you would get biblical answers to whatever questions you have.....it is not a surprise you have 2nd thoughts about the Bible, there are many like you yearning deeply for spiritual truth. If you truly want to have AA reason why you should not stop believing in God and prayers, you should really visit that website...you will be happy you did. And whenever you see Jehovah's witnesses, feel free to ask them questions they will gladly answer.

dreamangel:
If the Angels lkeep coming to earth physically to celebrate it, please what are you on earth whom he died for supposed to do? Stay there and wait for Angels

did the angels come to d earth physically to celebrate it

Neroiam:
Bro.. Have you bothered to ask who fixed this date and why?
Go for knowledge

I told someone this same thing and it looked like the person was scared of what he will find out. He so prefer to remain in his ignorance and keep enjoying and partying every 25th

jospepper:
One thing I Know as a Christian is that if I merit heaven, Yahweh will not deny me entry for celebrating or not celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ.

that is the mistake many people make...the isrealite back then started mixing pure worship with pagan worship in time the true identity of God was hidden from their generation and then Baal worship became Paramount.... Same way is this Xmas celebration in the .name of celebrating christ, immoral practices has crept in....even the use of father Xmas or santa Claus which doesn't even av any collaboration with Christianity.....just imagine everybody loves sweet and chocolate but imagine someone offering u chocolate gotten from d gutter. Will you still eat it? Will u say since it is chocolate and it is sweet and good for the teeth, I won't have diaharria and dysentery cos it was gotten from d gutter?

MiddleDimension:
he read luke and deliberately skiped the part where the angels celebrated the birth of jesus

just the same way u are in a joyous mood when you give birth to a child.....same way u will feel when a family is kidnapped and the random u are told to arrange is ready. You know that joyous feeling? Yes that is what the angels felt. They rejoiced with me cos their savour is on Earth. After that did u hear that every year d angels commemorate it?

midnighter:
This is normal waist dancing na, just that she positioned the camera at her backside

So many tribes' dances are even more sensual than this and they still do it in the church

A lot of our dances tend to centre around themes of desirability, youthfulness, flexibility so as to attract attention from spectators and potential suitors

which should not be. Back then Adam and Eve didn't wear cloth why can't we continue that way? Dances that connote sexuality should not be allowed in churches so as not to stumble d weak ones. So cos they dance it traditionally should not be an excuse. Are you worshipping God or ur tradition

Tofuture:
Wot I just knw is that judge not cos we're not God. So far David dance in naked for God so who am I to judge her... I just see it as her way of appreciating God.

why don't u dance naked too Everytime u go too church we should kuku know you are following David example fully. And did he do it in d midst of everyone? Cos he danced naked doesn't give you d right to dance provocatively in church so as to stumble others

pocohantas:
Twerking is a dance. Some cultural dance steps are more sensual than twerk. Yet it was never a problem because people didn't look at it with perverted minds.

u guess you have never read where you Bible saaid you should not do whatever will make your brothers stumble cos your case will be worse than a man thrown into the ocean with a hailstone hung round his neck. The point is, twerking in itself is often sensual and doing it in church in the midst of male(some who will have weak minds and not strong spiritually) is stumbling your brothers. What if one has been trying to break away from corrupt thinking and sees a lady twerking right in front of him?are u helping his course spiritually like that? Bible said what ever you do do it decently and moderately. Do all things in God's glory and you think twerking or shaking bum bum especially when u are hippy in front of or in d midst of guys his sensible. When is not that you are in a club. Cos other cultures have that kind of dance step so you think it wise of incorporating it in church when the same Bible reads you should not do things like the world. All in all stop supporting stupid things. What is wrong is wrong. What happened to dancing modestly. Most u dance zanku shaky shaku and whatever dance gotten from silly music (worldly dances)all in d name of worshipping God

BravoDe:
What u guys don't understand is that the post is accustomed to Nigerian and African only.

lie....it isn't,

Arsenal celebrate with their fan base in Nigeria has they wish them happy independence day

promisechild:
who is judging her here? I only told her the bitter truth because desperation is written all over what she wrote out!

I think you should accept your fault. We are all humans and can make mistake, this is your mistake and it has been pointed out to you all you need do is just apologize to the Lady or move on if your ego won't allow... What you said about her played in my mind too but I thought to myself, what is my concern. All in all I think everyone should learn how to criticize people without judging them. You don't know them

Smart move...I noticed something about duping and fraud. If you are not greedy and love money more than your life, it will be hard to dupe you

akasueba:
do you all realise that this money now remain 19,500 for this guy hand as you are helping the poor guy to spend it lol.
when the money remain 37k someone ask him to give small guy he is sending on an errand 500 naira and 7k do his niggas and another 10k for another pple so it now remain 19,500.
let's go what else pls.

buy and see nice clothes for ur parents with 10k, it will remain 9500 and confirm blessing from ur parents

Oya brotherly jaiye e lo.....have always envy you(in a good way) and to be frank have been following ur every post on the travel section on different threads starting from franknetting's thread to blowjobs' and the likes of other thread and ur post dy always bust brain. Keep up the spirit bruh and help me hail madam.

This plane flew over my location last night.... Immediately it passed, my mtn network just stopped(am really serious as funny as it sounds) so I accessed the flight radar app to check which plane took my network away and flew so low too....then I saw jburg to no location and flying 4000ft....I was like abi this plane wan crash because it was going no where near Lagos airport as at the time it passed above my location (notice the plane turning round), until I saw air peace and remembered that they were evacuating Nigerians yesterday from south Africa......I was also surprised by the speed...before I screen grabbed, plane don reach ota from ikorodu

Lol funny thing was it passed above my house at ikorodu. Immediately it passed, my network just disappear so out of curiosity, I decided to play with flight radar to see which plane had passed....lo and behold it was air peace....even the plane brought back the bad vibe of south Africa. Imagine it "xenophobe" my mtn network....u can see the flight part passing right above my location.... In other news, plane fast oooo....imagine where it had reached before I accessed the app and screen grabbed, that is around sango ota

alBHAGDADI:
Yes, Proverbs 23:31 is talking about the dangers of alcohol. But it doesn't say we should drink it in moderation. It says do not look at it, talkless of touching it with your lips.

did the bible say don't touch it with ur lips or u are also adding what you think? Cos after reading the whole bible on the topic about wine, it pointed to d fact u should do all things in moderation.... See a chocolate bar for example. Someone could give a warning, don't get carried away by the color and design of the chocolate cause it causes Jedi Jedi(pail) [just like the warning on wine in the bible] does this mean chocolate is bad for us? Everyone knows too much of sweet things causes problem, same with alcohol if misused. Moderation is what d bible preach and not forbidden

alBHAGDADI:
The Bold part is where your problem lie, lazy reader. If you had read the entire write-up, you would have seen that the Bible speaks two kinds of wine: Fruit juice and alcoholic beverage.

Paul didn't advice Timothy to take alcohol. It was fruit juice he advised. Telling Timothy to take alcohol is the same as going against the Book of Proverbs 23:31 that says we shouldn't even look at alcoholic wine not to talk of drinking it, regardless of the amount.


Now, go back and read the OP again, Mr personal encounter with God who throws away the word of God just to operate based on his own conscience.

Mr man stop misquoting Bible. That proverb was talking about the danger of wine/alcohol. That is were moderation comes in. If you get carried away with the sparkle color of alcohol, you will get drunk. It is just a normal warning everyone knows bawt alcohol and it power to intoxicate. That doesn't mean d Bible prohibit it has people in the time if old drank it and even offer it to guest....