Draslo: He has told you his mind. Even if he is truly joking and is a forward thinker, his backwards people back home will make him think otherwise. They will chase you away while they will reap where they did not sow. They're the only tribe in Nigeria that has a special name for the first born daughter but that's where it ends. She no get relevance again until she is getting married so others will come again to reap where they did not sow. Thank your stars you're abroad otherwise, you can start sewing black cloth and practice drinking corpse water
Make una quote me. I am ready.
You see this thing you just posted bro it is very true and thought provoking, especially that part about special name for first daughters Infact I have book marked this comment !!
@Vincenzomum take heed and break off that marriage with that ibo man it won't end well oo, you have been having issues with him and still having issues, even if you can't break up with him do something to put him in his place, make him know you can do very well without him and it is him that needs you and the kids! If you do this trust that is the last time that ibo man would give you headache !!
Dude, in 50 to 100 years time, that will be the general view outside Benin. What is on ground is still very visible, yet people already dispute it. That's how it began in Eastern Yorubaland.
Well, as we continue to diverge, Edoid people will continue to be more different. At some point, quite soon enough, we will become very different.
Now, some of our Delta cousins are exploring "Edo North origin" of Edoid tribes. For some reason, some would feel more comfortable originating from Edo North than Benin area.
People are cool to decide their history and origins. If someone can climb down from heaven, from mountain, from Afghanistan with Alibaba flying carpet, nothing people will not come up with. It's all good.
Bros it's really crazy the disrespect thrown at Benin this days, all is well.... Anyways all you posted is facts like always.... How have you been ?
This is the early morning pictures from my hood in Obosi Anambra state.
We don't know anything sit at home, people are going about their business, commercial drivers etc.
@Anambra1st son, we need your Situation report from Awka, the capital city of Anambra state.
When you don't know how daring an average igbo man is, you start to overrate yourself...I've never seen people so difficult to control like my igbo brothers, bini and warri.
Make Saturday come fast abeg.
There is nothing like "bini" it is Edo!! Correct yourself next time!!
If this urhobos sew it arm length and did not slim fit their attire it would be almost a exact replica of the Benins fit when sewed with lace cc AreaFada2
Efewestern: Just like the Igbos, the Urhobos were republican. During precolonial times, there was never any Urhobo clan that was under the rulership of an external government. Urhobo clans were fiercely independent and maintained autonomouship.
Ughelli kingdom for example existed long before Oba Eweka established a new kingdom.
AreaFada2 what do you think about the bolded ? Not to sound cocky but I find in funny knowing the facts on ground ........
FreeStuffsNG: Please calm down sir and do not let hate kill you. Your tone lack class and civility enough for me to know you can not be from the Yoruba stock royalty of Benin.
You obviously can not and can never be Yoruba or from the Benin royalty Your lack of class and humility gave you out so easily.
You are from the commoners and it is fine but you can speak with the grace of the royalty the Yoruba gave Benin. The Yoruba are related only with the Benin royalty not you.
Nice try your propaganda is weak the full speech of the revered Benin monarch is on YouTube and your shame.less ooni was seated when the oba clearly stated oromiyan was a banished Benin prince..... Nice try clow.n
FreeStuffsNG: Hey Mr cyberbully, please do not get it mixed up. I never said Benin commoners , I wrote Benin royalty. The Benin royalty alone come from Ile Ife and not their subjects or slaves sir. I have reported you to the mods.
Not even the royals are from your dirty Ile Ife let that sink in!! It is an insult to Benin royalty to Even think this!!! Your first ooni oduduwa was known to have come from Benin!! Take the Ewedu off your brain and read authentic history!!
samuk: Someone is already telling us that oba of Benin is from Ife because of lack of understanding of how evolution works. Don't be surprised when people hardly speak Benin inside Benin city 50 years from now, the future Oba and traditional institution will have to find a way like they always do to adapt and remain relevant.
Change is constantly taking place. Benin already lost most of her people in eastern yoruba and Lagos to yoruba and those in Ika land to Ibo.
Inside Benin itself there are first generation Benin born Igbo youths that speak Benin better than some Benin prince and Princesses.
In the last thirty years alone Benin traditions have changed so much that future generations of Benin who are not very well informed on Benin history will think Benin was invaded and conquered at this period of her history.
Burial ceremony is now three days (possibly for religious (Christian) reasons and costs) instead of the seven/fourteen days depending on the personality involved. Several aspects of it has also be replaced with service of songs. Traditions such as Isoton, Izakue, isuerha-fua and E'ruan are all gone in the general population except in the palace.
The diaspora celebrates Igue festival more than our people in Benin city. Most of our people no longer worship in the traditional way.
As usual the palace have find a way to incorporate the dominant Christian religion into its activities in a controlled way through Holy Arosa which the Oba heads. This is what makes the Benin traditional institution unique and why they are still here after centuries of existence. They keep evolving.
You see that igue, 70% of Benin residents are guilty of it
AreaFada2: Well, in this era, one must let people identify themselves as they want.
I have met people. Let me call them Dr Omoregbe, Dr Aigbe, Mrs Osifo and being away from home, you naturally gravitate to ask if they are Edo. And then you hear them say they are from Agbor/Delta.
Well, those surnames couldn't just have appeared by coincidence. There are clearly Edoid people among them. Remember what Ajayi Crowder wrote when he was in Asaba. That they were Edo people but increasingly diluted by Igbo from across the Niger? Is such totally unimaginable about Agbor? Zik of Africa's book also gave some insights.
Having said that, music is a universal language. The celebrants may well have been born and bred in Benin or partly Benin. I can't count how many Agbor people I knew in Benin that lived all their life in Benin. In fact, back in the day in diaspora, we were simply Bendelites. Anioma people felt closer to me than Igbo across the Niger. That was how we related. I could not really relate to Edo and Delta dichotomy for a long time, because it wasn't a reality I lived. But we are used to it now.
Like I always say, we will all continue to diverge. A point may come when if Ozanogogo find their bread better buttered elsewhere, they might claim not to be Edo anymore.
Ologbo147: Agbor people are not Edoid, although they are partly in culture, they have about twenty clans that are Igboid, then they have Alilehan/Alisor who are Bi-linguals in both Ika and Oza. Oza is a dialect of the Edo language and shares high intelligibility rate with her.
They also have Oza-nogogo who speaks Oza solely, they have about six quarters, it is by far larger than Alilehan/Alisor.
So any of these three clans can opt for Nowamagbe as their dialect shares high intelligibility rate with the Binis
samuk: Thanks for the correction, I knew atleast one of his sons was a musician, Isoken escaped me. You are also probably right about the year he died because I met someone in th UK around 1995 and he was listening to what he said was Ohenhen's last song, I asked if Ohenhen was dead and what killed him, he told me he was sick, I believe he said he played his last album in a wheelchair. I am sure how correct the story was.
Boss I just came across this video of Adviser nowamagbe performing in Agbor, I know Agbor people are Ediod but do they understand Benin dialect? because this their enjoyment and rocking to his Benin songs really shows this people are deep into His/Edo music.
samuk: Thanks for the correction, I knew atleast one of his sons was a musician, Isoken escaped me. You are also probably right about the year he died because I met someone in th UK around 1995 and he was listening to what he said was Ohenhen's last song, I asked if Ohenhen was dead and what killed him, he told me he was sick, I believe he said he played his last album in a wheelchair. I am sure how correct the story was.
AreaFada2: I know Egharevba has family in Benin but I am not familiar with them today. Unless I ask a relative who knew him quite well in Benin literary circle back then.
I am not familiar with who Atiti is or was. I was already in diaspora when I heard that Ohenhen died. No idea how he died.
AreaFada2: Just a bit more on Dr Eghareba. His book in hindsight could have been better researched but what resources did he have to do so? Until success of that 1934 book he had little money. It was even Oba Eweka II support and his own tenacity that helped him. By the time he was 10, his Benin father had already died.
For a guy who was born and bred in Yorubaland for the first 20 years of his life, he would have been much influenced by the narrative of Samuel Johnson that gradually permeated SW by second half of the 20th century. His mum was Yoruba or at least partly Yoruba. After fall of Benin Empire, former vassals there would have finally felt free to badmouth their exiled overlord. Eastern Youbaland where he was born still had many Benin people living and trading to and from there. Like Egharevba's merchant family. I can relate with it.
I heard accounts growing up as a kid of some of our folks who used their privileged position to trade from Eastern Yorubaland through present day Osun to Illorin, Lokoja and beyond. Then also back to Benin. Beads, corals of all types, gold, scents and Aso-oke were some of the important commodities then.
When his family moved to Western Yorubaland/Ibadan and Oba Ovonramwen was by now in exile, he heard largely negative stereotypes about Benin. I don't believe the Europeans would have done much to make things better. The British gleefully reported what they call "barbaric practices" in Benin upon invading, looting and burning it down just years earlier. Such as the possible heads of Ogioboro and Deji Arakale they found on the alter. The British had to justify their heinous act in Benin.
It was a good coincidence that Egharevba had arrived in Benin, a full grown young man by early 1914. Just early enough to witness the Evbinekhua and later the coronation of Oba Eweka II. Although the coronation was only a fraction of the pomp and splendour of previous ones, the grandeur, colourfulness, vibrancy and sheer display of culture totally blew the young man Eghareva away. He was hooked on researching this culture. There were hardly any major literary Benin Sources. He was convinced that all the negativity about Benin he heard growing up outside Edo land was due to ignorance (and envy, I might add). If you look at the several editions of his book from 1934 to 1960s, there were quite some differences in some narratives, obviously as he did more research.
For a guy who didn't grow up in Benin to have been writing books/stories in Benin language by 1920s that he later gathered to become the book we now know in its English version is no mean feat. He was already in his 20s when he obtained his primary school certificate in Benin. The way his early education was truncated by his father's death, a less determined person would have given up.
I like this insight inside Egharevba's actions I understand now his frame of mind at that time, do you have any info about his later years and his offsprings? I want to also ask you something tho unrelated how did Ohenhen die (heard accident)? And did he have any kids? And abeg " Atiti nu go " na actual woman ?
Kalatium: The major tribes in Nigeria are the hausa, igbo, yoruba and others like Tiv, Edo etc. But what about the remaining...
We have about 250 ethnic groups in Nigeria with abt 500 languages but the minority do not have a say. In the north Hausa are the majority and therefore more people tend to speak hausa even if it's not their mother tongue. This tends to reduce the number of people speaking their mother tongue. English our lingua franca has also help in deculturizing us making us abandon our culture.
It is estimated that by 2100 half of the world's approx. 7000 language is going on extinction.
Therefore we need to uphold our culture and teach the younger generation if not our languages will be extinct. We can see that some languages have been extinct and some are on the verge of been extinct.
UGBE634: Low IQ man refer to me with me with your full chest, I am still waiting for your response since I threw you a challenge.
Any man that will use the word stuck for 'Esan a core Edoid group' when she uses the title Onojie, and the person was rebuked several times and he refused to see his mistake. Sincerely the person has low IQ. It is not an insult sir, it is an observation, I was already tired of showing you error, and wanted to just spill it out anyway that you have low IQ. God faithfully your emotions took over you and I had to let you know your deficiency. Don't be pained man, if you can't take lashing, don't give, I would probably never have mentioned your deficiency level in IQ, even if I had observed it, save for the fact you insulted me first, I am not one to insult someone first.
You probably overlooked his insult to my person and you centred on mine because he seem to be on your side and he is saying what you want to hear.
Davidnazee, there are loopholes in your argument, I don't have much time to respond now but I will do that later eventually
You think you can come here and throw insults and Diatribes on people that have dedicated years and time for the Edo Cause on nairaland, People such as AreaFada2 that have earned legend status in this parts and go Scott free? Because you feel this is a faceless blog? Uhundan I must find you !!!!
Family › Re: How Important Is A Son In Igbo Tribe by AutomaticMotors: 2:04pm On Mar 03, 2023
Your lack of class and humility gave you out so easily.