₦airaland Forum

Bigchristo:
come help me sell am take buy pounded yam na since na food full your head

Go sit down !!

Bigchristo:
eh tell me something? Please explain more make we for know the importance of being an Edo person, at least I spend all my life growing up there I have a house there but this particular side of the story na I never hear

Why you no sell the house pack back to Ibadan to be eating Ewedu ? You mey build house for another state no know why you did so abi your papa no get village ?

Brian47:
My camera is not bad.
They're several fintech apps that have asked for a selphie and I took the pic without any stress.
It's only this one giving me stress.

I have told you what to do if you like dey there and be arguing

Brian47:
I've been trying to take a selphie to verify my chipper account for days now.
It's really hard to do.
I just gave up.

Upgrade your phone or borrow your neighbors phone with a good camera preferably Iphone!

You no go see for here

He is on Percs

Aigbedion141:
Please anyone who knows any brothel in ibadan where I can meet young bannies..

Edo Boy Must Chop

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UGBE634:
If you have sense, you would know that According to the oral history of the people, they were blacksmith who migrated from Benin. The Agbede as the name of their village describe their profession

And if you had sense in your Yoruba head were you there when they named their village and what made you think "Agbede" was not influenced by their close Yoruba neighbors in Ondo? You are a Yoruba boy hiding under Edo we have unraveled and disgraced you already!!

Thebadpolitican:
You're high on weed bro nothing more nothing less


So are they not human anyone can say anything for their own benefit

Didn't Americans fool the world that they have been to the moon not until people started doubting such claims


You're a yoruba man and I will address you as such

I don't want to know what the esogban or the usen people claim

I want to you to bring evidence and not just mere words

Bring evidence that predate 1897 to backup your claims

Then we can then believes the words of Usen and esogban but if the past is saying otherwise
Then I am sorry you're a clown

You're a yoruba man or you're from usen disguising as a benin man

Soon enough we will expose you


I have said it countless of times why such false narrative in benin history is being circulated

But ugbe who is a yoruba man choose not to see reasons why the palace are circulating it he wants to give glory to his yoruba brothers I will never let that happen

Even samuk disgraced you the last time and you went mute, you have to be booted out of culture thread sooner. you have no value you are adding here
You do no research, neither do you even know benin history oral wise, you're just a yoruba clown

Swear you're not yoruba or related to one you infidel parading as an edo man

He must be handled swiftly and decisively! There is no doubt in my mind that Ugbe634 is a Yoruba boy by birth and pedigree

Thebadpolitican:
You're high on weed bro nothing more nothing less


So are they not human anyone can say anything for their own benefit

Didn't Americans fool the world that they have been to the moon not until people started doubting such claims


You're a yoruba man and I will address you as such

I don't want to know what the esogban or the usen people claim

I want to you to bring evidence and not just mere words

Bring evidence that predate 1897 to backup your claims

Then we can then believes the words of Usen and esogban but if the past is saying otherwise
Then I am sorry you're a clown

You're a yoruba man or you're from usen disguising as a benin man

Soon enough we will expose you


I have said it countless of times why such false narrative in benin history is being circulated

But ugbe who is a yoruba man choose not to see reasons why the palace are circulating it he wants to give glory to his yoruba brothers I will never let that happen

Even samuk disgraced you the last time and you went mute, you have to be booted out of culture thread sooner. you have no value you are adding here
You do no research, neither do you even know benin history oral wise, you're just a yoruba clown

Swear you're not yoruba or related to one you infidel parading as an edo man

Complete infidel ooo and a stinky one at that

UGBE634:
It was the daughter of an Ogiegor that he impregnated.

There was no time yoruba was spoken in the palace that Bini was not spoken alongside, the Oba was already half Bini following his maternal root

The right word should be "then yoruba was also spoken in the palace

Thebadpolitican:
There was no yoruba people speaking anything in the oba palace

That guy is a foool I swear a big foooool !! AreaFada2 boss you see what I am talking about?

AreaFada2:
I guess we all need to learn and be open-minded not to be like our brothers from the other side who feel too educated and sophisticated to listen to others.

What made me to really start doubting this every famous hunter migrating from Ife in the 10th or 11th century (some put it even earlier or later) is that there are too many inconsistent versions and there seems to have been hundreds of Oduduwa children who were "famous hunters". Haba! Didn't princes do anything else there aside hunting? How many and surviving kids, in the days of high child mortality rates, did Oduduwa have?

How come Samuel Ajayi Crowther that travelled through Benin to Igboland never mention Benin-Ife link as prominent as Benin was back then? He wrote a lot about how Igbo from across the Niger were increasingly diluting the Benin population of Asaba.
Today in Eastern Yorubaland, many people that straightforward claimed Benin Descent now all have Ife hunter prince that also came to join the Benin people to found those places. A hunter prince from Ife appears to be easiest way to claim being a Bana Fide Yoruba due to ethnic politics.
There is still no written account of Benin-Ife link until after 1800 despite how much information Europeans wrote about Benin since 1470s.

Some claim that a European wrote about Benin people mentioning "Organe" in the hinterland that Benin went on pilgrimage. Where exactly was that? Would Ile-Ife be too difficult to pronounce or write?

Even a Yoruba guy wrote less than two weeks ago here on NL that Oduduwa story may well not be literally the way many take it nowadays.

You spoke well as always boss! This oduduwa nonsense is becoming a stink on Benin Empire history and always stink attracts the flies just like that irritating fly, that is flying around constituting nuisance on this thread trying so hard for me to notice him

UGBE634:
It is proven that he died at Ughoton

What I want to say to you would likely get my accounted banned for 19yrs..... I know your medicine you would receive it in full!

UGBE634:
point one thing I have said there that is "suspicious"

Na now you wan talk say point to it abi after dancing naked for many moons around your father's house ! I don't have your time

UGBE634:
If not that the Oba is the prime man in Benin, would you bother to argue where he came from gregyboy? Bamawo, the Esogban in time past have all talked about their affinity with Ife, you did not bother to disprove, and they supposedly followed who down?

The Usen people, The Ogiegor, The Ogie-amien can't all be making up tales. For we to get it right with our history, we have to accept truth.

Someone said it he has affinity with Ife, I would now be arguing against it, that's madness

How many times does the Oba have to sink it into your skull that the oduduwa the Yorubas are obsessed with was from Benin?

Thebadpolitican:
I feel irritated the way you argue to favour the yoruba narrative dem gats open your head to let you know say ife relationship and bini didn't exist

Something tells me you're not a pure benin man you also also related to the yorubas In a way you're so kin to spread this false history


Benin and ife didnt exist prove me otherwise

If you can't then pack yourself out of culture thread

Nawa oo

Some people sha

That guy is getting very irritating... He would be exposed soon enough

UGBE634:
If not that the Oba is the prime man in Benin, would you bother to argue where he came from gregyboy? Bamawo, the Esogban in time past have all talked about their affinity with Ife, you did not bother to disprove, and they supposedly followed who down?

The Usen people, The Ogiegor, The Ogie-amien can't all be making up tales. For we to get it right with our history, we have to accept truth.

Someone said it he has affinity with Ife, I would now be arguing against it, that's madness

You are becoming very suspect !! I have been watching you... Your Agenda would unravel soon

Cc AreaFada2

samuk:
Why do the Igbos always get offended when Anioma and Ikwerre say they are not Igbo, don't Igbo have enough numbers already that they want to forcibly swallow up others around them.

Population doesn't necessarily leads to greatness, Israel is highly regarded and influential in the world today not because of their landmass or population size.

The Fulani that are probably the most influential ethnic group in Nigeria today are a fraction of Igbo in population. Rather than forcing igboness and insulting those that don't want to be identified as Igbo, you guys should be making more effort to advance to a position that people would want to force themselves to be Igbo. You can't just wish and pronounce Igboness on people, they have to be comfortable with it.

Why do the Igbos think that most Anioma and Ikwerre will rather identify with Benin ancestry rather than Igbo, what is so special about Benin that Anioma and Ikwerre people would want to deny their Igbo ancestry if they were Igbo to begin with.

Igbo is an umbrella body created to unite formerly independent tribes due to similarities in culture, language and closeness of common boundaries. Those independent tribes have to be comfortable enough to buy into the project.

Unfortunately, the Nigeria civil war and seperation of south south from east did enormous damage to the Igbo project before it could take concrete root, the Yoruba umbrella project was more successful because they became the part of Nigeria that triumphed over Biafra.

The Nigeria civil war took off the shine and prestige of wanting to be Igbo, why would anyone want to be part of defeated Igbo nation when they can be independent.

The incentive is no longer there. The Anioma and Ikwerre people don't have to be part of a larger Igbo nation to advance themselves politically, socially and economically.

This comment is very apt and direct! I have bookmarked this!!

AreaFada2:
Well, I do not think it's Igbo or Benin who have to pass anything across to Ikwerre as to how to structure anything. Be it culture or language or anything.
Obviously their current and still evolving (like every other) culture happened by virtue of what fate gave them. In terms of ethnic mixes and where they found themselves.

As for Germany and England only novices won't know their cultural and linguistic affinities. Reformation began in Germany and England became the biggest protestant/Anglican nation.

Check out English/German names:

Gerald/Gerhard
Ana/Anja
Bernard/Bernd
Judith/Jutta
Charles/Karl or Carl
George/Georg or Joerg or Juergen
William/Wilhelm
Roger/Ruediger.

And many more.

I deliberately avoid most Biblical names to reduce influence of religion on their uniformity/similarity across languages.

I have never heard the Germans instructing the English to remove German origin names from their language.

Especially now that the British voted to leave Europe in Brexit vote.

Baba x 10000000000000

AreaFada2:
I believe a significant number of Ikwerre are Benin. Obviously due to location over the centuries they have mixed with a large number of Igbo.
From what we read and hear mostly, I believe Ikwerre want to be seen as now having a distinct identity. Not go back to or move to anywhere.

From what we read it's some Igbo people who swear at others and disparage those that disagree with the identity they want to give others.

Looking from outside, I believe Ikwerre see themselves as having a distinct identity now.

The English migrated from Germany and Denmark largely. They acknowledge this. But they have not said they are moving back to Germany and Denmark.

Baba o!!

AreaFada2:
Okoro in Benin even means boy but most commonly used as Prince. Son of the Oba.

Okoro N'okhua is crown prince. Before he is invested as Edaiken.

Amadi is a common name. Both are still regular surnames in Benin.

Broski!!!!!!

scholes0:
Who is this one? can you argue "Edo" history with me?
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this coming from a "yoruba" and one from "Ondo" at that !! Get a life boy!! ....


Ugbe634 case in point ...go figure

Ugbe634 you are arguing Edo history with scholes0 a Yoruba boy from "Ondo"..... You are unbelievable sometimes, let me just let you know this right now!!!

RedboneSmith:
Most origin stories are not historical fact. It's not a Yoruba thing. There was no prince from Baghdad called Bayajidda who settled in Daura. There was no Eri who came from the sky. God did not create the world from a drop of milk (according to Fulani legends). Benin origin stories speak of a son of Osanobua that poured sand from a snailshell to create land. That did not happen.

For the most part, origin stories were created by communities to explain a distant part that they no longer remember.

Calm down I was referring to Ile Ife migration nonsense paraded by most Yorubas and not their even more hilarious oduduwa falling from the sky with two chickens tale .... I thought I was specific enough ?

babasolution:
The Yoruba origin story is mostly moonlight tale no much concrete facts to back it up.




Also note the even within the Yoruba itself,they have disputing origin stories so we can't just rely on any oral unresearched story

Thank God More and More People are waking up and seeing through Yoruba lies and fairy tales

Cc gregyboy ugbe

Efewestern:
Urhobo/Isoko being the largest

Lol!! Your Ogogoro is weighting heavy on your brain better rest!! And stop dragging isoko into your muddy embrace they stand alone and separate!!

Efewestern:
Oba is no way Edoid, has no root whatsoever.

SPEAK ONLY ON WHAT YOU KNOW AND WITHIN YOUR BOUNDARIES!!!

urbobo20:
How comes they are using Ovie instead of oba in edo north . I thought Ovie is been used by urhobo and isoko alone. Though I know we urhobo migrated from Edo

There is only one Oba in Africa and it's Oba of Benin hence no other king bears that title in Nigeria except the Yoruba copycats ......... Also Ovie is an Edo word for king too! Urhobo wado I greet una