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topsyking: That's why most men in american kill their wife...how will u feel after working ur whole life..for a common woman to divorce u and get half of ur wealth plus houses, cars..dats rubbish..I remember when billonaira dehinde fernades wife won try dat rubbish.he remind d court dey never marry in uk but in nigeria..dats what save him...as evil as a woman..dey can make u regret ur life in one hr

Its been long I heard that name...where could he be now?.....forget google tinz jare!

As gathered from my source, nine (9) Mada men were killed by the Fulanis. Their eyes were plucked out.
Picture attached!
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No trace of the Fulanis....the men were buried on Friday!

ijebabe: Mynd and dubem, you guys need to get a room and sort out ur feelings. Don't use my threads as an avenue to display ur emotions!

Dubem ur done with Ayo now ur after mynd. Ok o!

You are getting the similarities wrong, instead the differences!

[quote author=Mynd_44]And make I fear the nonsense wey you write abi?[/quote]Me and u don turn mate na!
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I have already prepared ur place....keep the habit up, and I'll place u in there!

[quote author=Mynd_44]Don't make me slap you[/quote].
E be like sey u chop craze while drunk!
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E go soon clear....just give it time!

The nomadic Fulani herdsmen have once again stepped on the tail of the sleeping dog.
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The same fight that claimed lives and properties during the alpha of this year. Due to this, no corper (Batch A)was posted to the local governement area.
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Its at Kadarko/Sarkin Noma in Giza Development Area (outskirt of Nasarawa State) along Nasarawa-Benue expressway.
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It started with the Fulanis grazing their cattle on the Tivs' and Madas' farmlands. But during the early hours of today, the Fulanis came in to the village killing some Madas (the number I can't say). Now, its gathered that the Madas (not sure of the spelling, but pronunciation) in the company of the Tivs are on their way into the farm to retaliate.
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Its like the situation is beyond the control of the Policemen and Soldiers despatched to the area.
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And today being the market-day at Kadarko/Sarkin Noma. The students have been allowed to go home!
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From a very reliable source.

born2fuck: Three friends Akpors, Rukewe and Oghene decided to go for a picnic.
Rukewe packs the picnic basket with
drinks and sandwiches. Oghene carried the basket and they set out for
the park 10km away.
It takes them 2 hours to get there.
When they arrived, Rukewe quickly spread the mat and set out the sandwiches. After checking around, Oghene found out that Rukewe did
not pack the bottle opener. They then begged Akpos to make the 4 hour trip
to and fro for the opener. He disagreed. ''You'll finish the sandwiches before I return,'' Akpos protested.
''No we won't'', assured Rukewe.
After some more cajoling from them, Akpos reluctantly sets out for the opener.

After 5 hours, there was no sign of Akpors. They decided to wait for another 3 hours. Still no sign of Akpors.
Oghene and Rukewe after waiting on Akpors for more than 8 hours were by
now very hungry so they decided to
take one sandwich each.
As they were about to eat, Akpors pops
out from behind a rock screaming: ''I
KNEW IT! I'M NOT GOING AGAIN''!!!

From ''Laff Live With Akpor-Best Jokes (Copyright)''

Am I missing something?
What is the topic to this thread again?
''Mynd_44 and dubem3 in a room''?
Hmmm, what a duo!
But what duo?

ogugua88: "Instead of President Goodluck Jonathan to be watching this debate he's eating amala n watching African magic." LOL

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On the thread: Obama Vs Romney: U.S. Presidential Debate On 16th October 2012

dubem3: IJE ur using a phone and AYO is using a fone.
as for that thing i think am seeing there...ok ok ok its a romantic scene so the gurl got ready b4 time. she is simply punctual. what do you even know about movies sef ije?
that gurl iis on the rise real fast, she,ll soon be a moon. the director simply thought it was cool.

Na me u enter like that?
@@Ayo goes to meet the aboki selling china galaxy III@@
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Ijebabe, pls whats that colour green stuff on that chair behind the lady?

[quote author=gree-die]REMARK
The debate was an eye-opener for me. Initially, I was of the view that a man shouldn't assert his authority in a relationship but now..... I'm not so sure. A very big well done to the participants, you all did well, thanks for your input. to my fellow judges, it's been nice working with you all, thank you and to the moderator, putting this debate together couldn't have been easy, thanks for your time, effort..... And for appreciating us 

I want to share a few things I learnt about debating ... Simple logic is rarely sufficent in a debate. The trick is to strike a proper balance between appeals to logic & emotion. One shouldn't lose touch with her rational argument amidst the anecdotes, impassioned exhortation and other attempts to win the hearts of the audience and judges. I think the 7 points below will help a debater immensely-

1: avoid innuendo, it's rude and a poor way to debate. You are guilty of this when you insult someone without specifically stating your insult.

2: know when to cede a point with grace and courtesy, debating when your point is no longer valid will make you look petty & ignorant

3: agree to disagree when a debate turns into an argument. U don't need to tear out your opponent's jugular to win when her opinion opposes yours besides, doing so won't earn you more points

4: avoid emotionally charged words, they twist debates into chaotic argument

5: be respectful, don't lose repect for the other person just because you have opposing viewpoints.

6: have solid data to backup your argument, do not be so engrossed in countering your opponent that you forget to back your claim/ view with facts

7: if the opposition make an error in reasoning, point out the logical fallacy, give a simple and really obvious reason why the fallacy is incorrect and discard it. When you counter-argue, you only succeed in weakening the fallacy, making it less persuasive but still valid.

These little things adds to or subtracts from ones points so always be careful.

Finally, debating should be a means to understand an alternate point of view & hopefully shed some light on a situation so that better solutions can be discovered.... It shouldn't be a means to silence someone.

Gree-die[/quote]This is from the thread ''Debate: Man is Right to Assert Authority/Superiority in Relationship''

[quote author=gree-die]its gree-die and thanks.... Btw, i like the dimensions u brought into d debate[/quote]

Mr. Moderator, very thoughtful of you.
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Panel of Judges, you did the most tasking of this programme. You are well appreciated. Like somebody was asking to be excused the next time. Tasking and time demanding indeed.
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To Co-debaters, Im glad we came on board and finished it. We just added beauty to the romance section.
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My opponents, its very tasking countering you, but Im glad I didn't back out and off, especially to Mrs. Chima, the last straw that put me in the shade.
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Don8, my team mate, you did your best, we all did our best. I should be the one complaining!
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MrBrownJay, thanks for putting the team on the brink. MrBrownJay multiplied by 3 would have done better justice.
You did it!
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green-die, your advise is noted.
10000000 likes!
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Audience, thank you!

LOL @ desola and naijababe!
We go soon dey use 'ena' for here....awon boys won yen lu eti.
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LOL!

Im using phone here. The pics are blurred (like compressed).

Mr. Moderator and the Panel of Judges, I am done with my 3 POSTS, but segemented into 5 POSTING BOXES.
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Thank you for your understanding and time.

[quote author=Mrs.Chima]
It was said by a member of your supporting team that a superior man isn’t imperfect if he is better or excellent. If God thought that man was superior in every sense, man would have been alone with his animals and vegetations. A superior man doesn’t need a partner or a helpmate. What is the difference between God and “superior” man? A superior man is an Earthling that needs God wholeheartedly.
[/quote]The President also needs a vice for assistance. The Vice President will not act unless the President gives the green light. This is no different from Man and Woman. The Woman supports as directed by the Man when he is away from home. God is good planner and a perfectionist.
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''A superior man is an Earthling that needs God wholeheartedly.'' While Woman is an Earthling that needs Man wholeheartedly. Interesting! We are really flowing together.
[quote author=Mrs.Chima]
A wise woman will not allow her husband to suffer at the hands of his own foolishness. A wise woman will speak up and address issues with maturity and elegance. A wise man will acknowledge the present of his wife and take pride knowing that his wife has his back even if she assert her opinions that he disagree with.
[/quote]You are on point here also. Just like Nabal and Abigail. The reverse would have been the case if she had confronted Nabal. I have not said that our Women are dumb or stupid. No man will want to marry a stupid woman either. Its like marrying a slave/servant!
[quote author=Mrs.Chima]
Freedom of speech is given to individuals who want to express their opinions and shouldn’t be persecuted for their opinions. A wise man would accept that his wife has a mind of her own even if he doesn’t agree with her opinions; he should respect her as his wife not to belittle her with superior attitude.
[/quote]Yes, yes, yes!
But she must submit to the final conclusion drawn by her Man. Even God relates with man, but you dare not stand in His way when He concludes!
[quote author=Mrs.Chima]
How can a husband expect his wife to respect him if he doesn’t respect her? How rude!
[/quote]Respect is reciprocal. A man will respect the woman if she stays under his authority (i.e. she abides by rules and regulations governing marriage-submissiveness)
[quote author=Mrs.Chima]
A man that beats his wife into submission and disregards her feelings as if she is irrelevant is a weak man in my book. You say that a man should teach his wife and assert authority but according to a religious verse, a man that doesn’t perform according to the word must be won over or turn by his wife’s actions.

[/quote]And what is a disobedient woman in your book?
A wise woman that wants to get to her husband should be very submissive. Esther was a case study. Very humble and submissive. Nobody goes to see the King at that period, but she went in, and she found favour is his sight!
[quote author=Mrs.Chima]
According to you, young, old, wild, and free lady fit for a submissive wife. How do you explain men that are marrying docile women that are submissive and whorish? A submissive woman does not mean she is pure, faithful, honorable, loving, and respectful. Have you ever heard of a submissive LovePeddler? Guess what, men around the world are marring these submissive whores and trying to make a housewife out of them.
[/quote]I didn't say the young, old, wild, and free lady is fit for a submissive wife. Don't misquote me. She might be of course, but not for a man that wants submissive, wise and responsible wife.
Men marry docile woman for purpose of peace in the home. Man doesn't want a nag is his home!
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In conclusion, Mrs. Chima, you should know that many of today's problems start from the family as a unit in the society at large. If the family is not put in order, then the society will suffer from a great setback.
Its like MrBrownJay, my team mate read my mind about the issue of Divorce.
Kudos brother!
The rate at which divorce increases in the world today as result of Women being not being submissive to their Men is very alarming, and this is weakening the system. Women, go back to your ancient path, and lets put things back in order. Civilization shoudn't be embraced in every aspect. That Mobile Phone, Internet, and Airplane are good doesn't make Nuclear Weapon, Gender Equality and Gay/Lesbian okay for embracement.
Believe me, there will be drastic and mind blowing transformation in families affecting the Society at large, only if Women would be submissive to the Authority of Men in their homes.
And my reasons for using scenarios in the Bible was because, the Bible contains no adulterated, controversial and compromising history, unlike controversial "Civil War in Nigeria" et al. The Bible's are accurate!
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Thank you.

[quote author=Mrs.Chima]
The adage, “Good child is for the father, and the bad one for the mother” is the funniest thing I have ever heard! There are single mothers and fathers all over the world and many of them came from failed marriages and spousal deaths. Do we hold them accountable for the behaviors of their children because they are not in a marriage?


[/quote]You have a point there. I can't counter you on that. It is a basic truth, but not frequent as we both know.
Can you now see that we Men are civil in our reasonings?
[quote author=Mrs.Chima]
Do you think children from martial relationships are superior to children in single parenting relationships? I have a friend who is married and she is submissive to her husband to the core. If her husband say “jump”, she say “how high sir” and she loves her children dearly to the point where she is willing to endure constant beatings and can die any moment now. She is teaching her daughters no matter what submit to this type of man to no fault and her son doesn’t respect her. The little boy is turning out to be like his father and abuse her as well. Is it the mother’s fault that her son is “bad”?
[/quote]As you once said that some things happened behind the closed door. A man is not that wicked and heartless. Beating her without any reason, and you believed that? Hmm!
It still bothers me why you couldn't challenge your Pastor. Are you that easily manipulated?
Go have a heart to heart discussion with your friend to get to the bottom of her being beaten UNNECESSARILY.
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You should know that questioning a LOVING, ROMANTIC, UNDERSTANDING and CARING man's authority always, will make him give up in order to please you. But for the ones that can't tolerate, then be ready to be dealt with, or flushed out, or having a rival (No time for jagbajagba)
[quote author=Mrs.Chima]
Is this what a man of such authority and superiority asserts order in his home by creating voluntary chaos? An imperfect man who thinks that he is above the law and God that he can disobey the instruction of a Christian husband from your religious book.
[/quote]Falsely accusing religion to make a point is becoming preposterous. Tell me where in the Bible a woman's submissiveness was abused. Those that were submissive were reckoned with, unlike the likes of Jezebel. Do you know about Abigail's former husband? Nabal was surly and mean in his dealings. Abigail was still submissive despite his attitude over the years. She applied wisdom, when she learnt that David was coming to destroy her household. She went quickly to plead with gifts on behalf of her household.
I trust you na, ''Nabal you are such a very stupid man. What the hell was wrong with you that you didnt attend to those peaceful men that came from David. Ehn, tell me, what were u thinking? You are such an idiot. Now, David is coming with his army to destroy our household........'' would have been the response of some typical disobedient women. That will surely cause chao. Chaos needs two opposing parties to manifest. There won't be chaos if the woman is submissive. A man that thinks he is higher than Law will be doing sentence(s) in prison (if he hasn't been sentenced to death by hanging) let alone of facing God wrath.
A wise and perfect man is submissive to God and the Law, but a foolish and imperfect man.
[quote author=Mrs.Chima]
You stated that man came first and women follows, I presume you quoted the statement from your religious book. Now take a walk with me as I paint a visual picture for clarity. “Let there be light and night and day was formed on the first day, animals, water, vegetation, air, land, and man was created by the time HE rested. Man named all the creation before his eyes and was alone. “A man should never be alone”, a woman was created from the side. She became his helpmate and became one with man.
[/quote]And has God rested since the day He created woman? Nope, He hasn't. He is been fixing woman's problem right from the beginning.
Even in our society today, women contribute more to the vicious circle.
[quote author=Mrs.Chima]



I like math, do you? 1+1=2, 1+0=1, and 2-1=1. My husband and I were individuals that represent 1 before marriage, we joined forces as 1 after marriage, and if my husband decides to become superior and assert authority then we would become 2 minus 1.
[/quote]I thought you said 1+1 in marriage equals 1.
[quote author=Mrs.Chima]
There is a significant difference between authority and leadership. It is his role to assert leadership, but not his right to assert authority for he is not superior over me nor I am superior over him for we are one.
[/quote]No let a Military man arrest you for this thing wey you yearn so o.
Authority is an embodiment of Leadership.
If it is his role to assert leadership as you agreed on , then it is simply his role to assert authority as a characteristic.

Good Morning Mrs. Chima.
Good Morning Nairalanders
Mr. Moderator and Panel of Judges, thanks for your time, and your unbiased sense of judgement.
[quote author=Mrs.Chima]
Pardon me for being intrusive but you have mentioned that you asked three of your girlfriends for their opinions regarding this motion. I respectfully decline the offer to guess bearing in mind what can three single ladies (that you haven’t felt moved enough to propose to any them) tell me, a married woman who is not a newlywed about the experience of marriage? Exactly sir.
[/quote]You are pardoned.
They are my female friends, if 'girl friends' was ambiguous. They are of course engaged. I know their fiancees. One big family we have been right from University.
[quote author=Mrs.Chima]
Mr. Ayobase, your mother sounds like a lovely lady and allow me to eloquently address her statement regarding Lord, Husband, and not being godly. I asked a friend of mine who is a pastor of his church about what your mother said. He told me that God is a jealous God and it is specified in the tenth commandment that Christians shouldn’t worship any gods but the Almighty.

I asked him if calling husbands, lord is putting gods before God? He responded yes and in fact when breaking one commandment, you have caused transgressions of the law therefore committed an ungodly act. Hmm.
[/quote]Thank you. She is lovely and beautiful from within.
Your friend is not wrong though, but he got it twisted. He should know that "Lord" in this context means "head of the home". Lord has meanings. Does it mean that a man is placing a Judge in the court of law above God when he says, "My Lord"?
Besides, you are not religious. Its obvious you only accept what suits your opinion. Is that not being biased and illogical!
[quote author=Mrs.Chima]
You can only narrate dinner table conversations shared between your three girlfriends, non-religious mother, and unpublished rap album you were trying to articulate.
[/quote]It wasn't a dinner table conversation my dear. I called them. Have you forgotten so quickly?
[quote author=Mrs.Chima]
Are you certain that you understand Ephesians 5 thoroughly as a Christian male? Were you asleep when your Sunday school teacher elaborated Genesis and the creation of mankind? Do you understand Galatians’ definition of love? Did you read the information with thy own understanding or discernment of the Holy Spirit? It appears that I have bombarded you with indicative questions

[/quote]Yes, I slept during the classes. But my quest for knowing the truth as I grew in wisdom, knowledge and understanding made me move closer to my Bible. I shared with you some insights discovered with the help of Holy Spirit and due to personal perusals, but you still decided to go with your Pastor.
[quote author=Mrs.Chima]
however it is important to know if you are speaking from common sense or with a feeding spoon. Sometimes we have the tendency to repeat something spoon-fed without concrete knowledge of our consumption.
[/quote]Like the way your Pastor spoon-fed you with his common sense interpretation?
[quote author=Mrs.Chima]
A husband has moral right to enforce obedience in his marriage according to whom?
[/quote]A man should walk with his legs, and see with eyes according to whom?
[quote author=Mrs.Chima]
During the old days, non-traditional families were heard of and standard marriage consisted of a man, a woman, and future children. Nowadays, a typical relationship may have two women or men partnership. Who is the “husband” in a lesbian marriage? Who is the “husband” in a gay marriage?
[/quote]Let me ask you a question also. In bestiality, who is the husband, the Man or the Goat?
We are talking about MORALLY sound relationship here!
[quote author=Mrs.Chima]
I hope you are not talking from a biblical reference because even your religious book said Christians should follow the laws of the land and in some lands, homosexuality marriages are acceptable.
[/quote]''You are in the world, but not of the world, do not conform yourself with the world.''
[quote author=Mrs.Chima]
Women in some parts of India are allowed to have more than one husband and pay the groom price. It was mentioned on the supporting team, that men pay bride prices therefore should assert authority and superiority over the bride.

Should the woman in India that pay groom price assert her authority and superiority over her husband(s)? Some chauvinistic males and demure women would say “such absurdity nevertheless”, but I would no more absurd than a woman submitting to a religious man that treat his wife like a Nobel Peace ashewo.
[/quote]So, she wants to assert authority over the man because she paid his groom price. LOL! Then she should be ready to go back to her parents' house.
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How I wish this system can be adopted in Nigeria to make the unserious ones among the ladies sit tight.
It reminds me of what a mother said to her wife during wedding, ''......Please Omotola, make sure you please you husband. Obey and respect him. Don't argue with him. Prepare his food at the approriate times, always satisfy him....''
You tell me what the mother was simply saying!

Mr. Moderator, Im still pleading.
Don't let the Judges take my ONE POST (A REPLY COUNTERING A POST) but being divided into TWO POSTING BOXES as TWO POSTS due to limit of number of characters.
I tried SQEEZING, but not WORKING!
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Im trying to work on my 3rd POST countering Mrs. Chima FINAL REPLY.
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Thank you!

[quote author=Mrs.Chima]Thank you baby.

I want to make another contribution but not sure if its too late.[/quote]Go ahead, ''3 posts'' as said by Mr. Moderator!
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Still contemplating working on my third cos of my busy schedule!
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This is no more weekend debate. Today is Monday.
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Gez ur day has been cool and unfolding as opted!

[quote author=Mrs.Chima]LMAO@erasing half of my argument and only answering one sentence. [/quote].
I censored reiterations!
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Waiting for your counter.
But have to sleep now....long day ahead!

[quote author=Mrs..Chima].....Do you think your Christ will accept belittling attitude and speech toward your wife that He specifically instructed the husbands to love thy wives as Christ love the church? I think not, sir.

By the true definitions of feminism and submissiveness, I am a proud feminist who wants equal rights in life and prosperity as I am afforded and have no qualms being submissive to the head as the head leads by an example.

[/quote]Belittling? Is putting a child of 5 years of age that prefers to be in J.S.S 3 in Primary 1 belittling?
Some things are meant to be; constant of life. They can't change.
Why would a lady wanna take up the role of a man. What an insult!
My Christ is not the author of confusion. He wants no disorderliness/chaos!
A marriage between a 'woman with equal rights as a man' and a 'man' is considered to be a gay marriage. I wonder who the wife is gonna be!
[quote author=Mrs..Chima]....
How can I as a non-religious person accept such laden contradictions? I have seen “Christian marriages” that share your marital philosophy and I must say sir, some of these women and men are denouncing the very fabric of what marriage institution represent.

[/quote]Its either they are not getting it right, or you didn't observe well.
Well, ''some'' you pointed out, and not all.
[quote author=Mrs..Chima]
The dictionary states that submissive is act of meek, humbly, obedient, and dutiful. I have noticed something when I read the definition of submissiveness that when given an example, it states submissive servants, not woman nor man. An orthodox Muslim demonstrates true meaning of a submissive servant to Allah. A Muslim man can teach his cruise members how to be humbly servants by being an example.

[/quote]Yes, you are correct. A Muslim Man must be submissive to Allah, but not to his wife.
''A Muslim Man can teach his cruise members how to be humble servants by being an example.'' Servants to Allah, and not to Woman!
[quote author=Mrs..Chima]

I am assuming that your biblical reference regarding women in the church and how they should act is from King James Version. Now bear with me as I eloquently address the above reference According to 1 Corinth. 14: 34 states that women should remain silence during public worship and refrain from asking questions that may disrupt pastoral sermon and ask thy husbands at home.

In contradiction, 1 Peter 3:1 states that wives be submissive to thy husbands so that if they do not behave according to the word by your silence and actions shall turn them or won them over.

The two verses contradict each other because? in one verse it prohibit women from teaching or asking questions during public worship but in another verse instruct women to lead by an example with their actions. If such husbands are not living according to the word how can such women win over dirt with dirt? Why would a woman want a man to assert authority and superiority over her if he is using contradicting verses of religious and dead authors to prove his opinion?

[/quote]These were letters written to two different Churches to addressing DIFFERENT issues on ground.
If those letters were sent to a particular Church, then you were correct to say they contradicted.
[quote author=Mrs..Chima]
I will not even touch on the subject of male evangelists being questioned and accused of fraud by governmental and public figures.
[/quote]Not all that glitters is gold. Not all so called MOG are MOG!
[quote author=Mrs..Chima]
As I close, you are correct asserting authority is not the same as bullying or intimidating women in relationships.
[/quote]Of course. And for the second time. You do know the truth.
The truth can't hide for long. You have just said it yourself.
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Thank you.

[quote author=Mrs..Chima]Good morning Mr. Dont8.

The correct idiom is “Give a man an inch and he take a mile” exemplify individuals whom are too foolish and selfish to appreciate kindness and generosity. How can a man who thinks he is superior over his wife possess kindness and generosity?

[/quote]Come to the North, there you will see kind and generous men asserting authority over their wives. And very peaceful homes at such.
My dear, its still ''give a woman an inch, and she takes a mile''.
Who wants to give the man the inch in the first place? The woman in submission? LOL!
[quote author=Mrs..Chima].....
According to your explanation of the above idiom, you contradicted yourself by stating that a man should assert authority/superiority in the relationship if a woman take a mile, but who should assert authority/superiority in the relationship if a man takes a mile?

[/quote]Distance is not a barrier. A Man can assert authority even from the Sun.
Awaiting the man's harsh judgement wouldn't be what she should compromise!
[quote author=Mrs..Chima]
You have raised some significant tidbits that I have the opportunity to eloquently address. It is interesting that you have mentioned titanic and captain in your argument. Now bear with me as I explain the role and duty of each crewmember of titanic. A standard cruise ship consists of these following:
• Ship Master
• Staff Captain
• Safety Officer
• Petty Officer
• Boatswain/boatman
• Cruise Director
• General Staff Member

Each title has a specific responsibility and authority to ensure prevention of potential shipwreck.

The structure and operation of a cruise ship is similar to a family in marital relationship. The head, typically the man is the shipmaster and the neck; typically the woman is the staff captain of the ship. Shipmaster and staff captain have similar authority and responsibilities of the cruise ship ........

[/quote]What sort of irrational conclusion was that.
The Shipmaster and the Staff Captain have the similar authority and responsibilities of the cruise?
The Staff Captain, being the 2nd in command, just like the Woman is also 2nd in command in the home assists , and advises the Master on all operational issues, department head deck, and member of ship management team just like the woman gives report to her husband when he comes back from work.
The Staff Captain can't say NO when the Ship Master says YES. He can only make a duress call when the Master is actually losing it. But Rarely does that occur!
[quote author=Mrs..Chima]

A debate content with biblical references is like copying and pasting theologies of opinionated and questionable religious authors. However according to your bible, if you look at Ephesians 5 (KJV) it illustrates that in a standard Christian family that Christ is the head, which He gave responsibility to the man to carry out in his family and wives to submit to their husbands as their husbands submit to Christ. Christ gave specific instructions to the husbands to love thy wives as Christ love the church.

[/quote]I have done justice to that with this;
'' ''You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free''. Truth is the Bible. So, I don't know why someone will say ''Lets not bring religion or God into this matter.''' when our lives revolve round about it knowingly or unknowingly (rather consciously or uncousciously)
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Get that scritures right, and don't misinterpret with ur 'unreligious' understanding.
''wives submit to thy husbands as he SUBMIT TO CHRIST as Christ is the head of the church. Husbands love thy wives as Christ loves the church.''
What happens to the husband if he refuses to submit to Christ's (Creator's) commands? What happens to him will surely happen to the Woman if she refuses to submit to her Husband. The outcome wouldnt't be a palatable one though.''
And who told you that Authority Asserting men have no love for their women!
[quote author=Mrs..Chima]

Now let look at the definition of submission and feminism, according to a standard dictionary, feminism is a doctrine advocating social, political, and other rights of women equal to those of men.
[/quote]Quoting what I said earlier ''Gender Equality is now the order of the day. Can you imagine! The woman that should be at home preparing food for her Man that has gone out since dawn to provide for the family was busy carrying placard amongst other disobedient and rude Woman on the streets of Nigeria, protesting for Gender Equality. What a priority in its misplacement!
Was she not to be at home asserting the asserted authority of the Man on the children, and the upkeeping of the home for a secured tomorrow!
How won't we be having 'faulty' children as leaders of tomorrow due to 'faulty' homes as a result of a 'faulty' women!
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No wonder some men are always eager to have a teacher as a wife, instead of those priority-misplaced ones in the Senate House, House of Representative et al. Some are even Ministers. Tell me, what have they contributed so far. Even Sirleaf of Liberia is not excluded.
''We can manage our homes and public offices without any problem'' they managed to say. You will understand better if you have watched the seasonal movie ''Commander-in-chief''. A typical example. Try watch it!''

Mr. Moderator, I took your silence as 'go ahead'.
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Im using phone, and number of characters I guess is limited on phone compared to laptop.
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Mrs. Chima, ready to dissect me?
Im seeing you!

[quote author=Mrs..Chima]
.....how do humans respond to individuals that demonstrate arrogance, which means exaggerated self-opinion? We show contempt, resistance, objection, and resentment toward arrogant individuals.
Arrogance and superiority both have similar traits in attitude, mentality, behavior, and speech. How can men who demonstrate superiority over his wife expect his wife to respond like a loving wife? [/quote]Don't even try mixing kerosene and water.
Arrogance is associated with exaggeration, while Superiority is associated with factual reality.
Arrogance is artificial, but Superiority is naturally endowed.
A woman can decide to be arrogant, but Superior!
[quote author=Mrs..Chima]I believe highly in an eye for an eye. Treat me how you want to be treated. Simple.

[/quote]''An eye for an eye''. Thats what the Court as a tool of Civilization is also preaching in this regard. You and I know that things were in order before the Court of Law as a structure was enacted. I have said it, not all what Civilization introduced are good. That a mobile phone is good doesn't make Nuclear weapon good, and that the Internet is okay, doesn't mean that Gender Equality is sound for the purpose of driving a family as a unit, and the society at large.
You are not being treated like a slave, neither like a child, but like a helper!
I still don't know how you want me to treat you again o.
[quote author=Mrs..Chima]

....... I am the neck to my husband, which means supporter and second opinion. My husband knows his role as the head and I know my role as the neck. The head can’t move without the neck, and the neck can’t move without the head and without each other, the house in itself stand divided. We do not make any affecting decisions without each other and if we would to live in a house where the head has superiority and authority over the house, such marriage will not flourish. It can’t flourish if there is no support from one another. It is like a parent trying to coddle a rebellious child.

[/quote]Of course, the end result is going to be a rebellious child in a family where the woman claims to be the neck controlling the head, Man.
''The Man is the head, and the Woman is the neck'' is one of Gender Equality's inscribes on one of those placards as a propaganda. Are you telling me that the Woman controls the Man. How? The turning head due to the twisting neck? You did make me laugh Mrs. Chima.
Add the prefix ''il'' to logical. Yes, thats what that saying is all about..
Im not surprised since some sayings are induced for selfish purpose.
[quote author=Mrs..Chima]
My opposing argument is simple this, a man can assert his role as the man of the house, but he can’t assert authority and superiority over his house because his wife isn’t his child. An imperfect man can’t be better or superior over another imperfect human being. Some debaters will assert that the bible said men are to assert this and that but in Ephesians 5 (KJV), it said wives submit to thy husbands as he SUBMIT TO CHRIST as Christ is the head of the church. Husbands love they wife as Christ love the church.
In Galatians (KJV), it said love is kind, gentle, longsuffering, patience, understanding, and joy. According to the love definition, how can men who submit to Christ say that he loves his wife with superior attitude?

[/quote]''A man can assert his role'', you confessed. What is the role of a man, if not to set down rules. And rules are meant are to be obeyed. In a nutshell, you simply said a Man is Right to Assert His Authority in a Relationship. Can you see that you can't run away from the truth. You are a free woman, but pretending not to be.
Get that scritures right, and don't misinterpret with ur 'unreligious' understanding.
''wives submit to thy husbands as he SUBMIT TO CHRIST as Christ is the head of the church. Husbands love thy wives as Christ loves the church.''
What happens to the husband if he refuses to submit to Christ's (Creator's) commands? What happens to him will surely happen to the Woman if she refuses to submit to her Husband. The outcome wouldnt't be a palatable one though.
Love is a broad topic, but to break it dowm for you. There are 3 MAJOR types, and plus 1.
-Ero Love: Between lovers. Romance. Erotic.
-Philia: The one we are sharing on here. Friendhsip.
-Agape: God's. Unconditional one.
-Storge: Affection.
As you stated ''In Galatians (KJV), it said love is kind, gentle, longsuffering, patience, understanding, and joy. According to the love definition, how can men who submit to Christ say that he loves his wife with superior attitude?''.
That sort of love is not Eros or Philia, and neither is it Storge, but Agape.
Even though the four share these ''kind, gentle, longsuffering, patience, understanding, and joy'' in common, but not distinct to Eros, but Agape. Just as Head is not the same as Superiority, but sharing ''better, excellence, top, dominance, supremacy, and perfection'' in common.
[quote author=Mrs..Chima]I am glad I am blessed with a husband that understand the true meaning of love, respect, understanding, and “one”.
Thank you ladies and gentlemen.
[/quote]He understands the true meaning of love, respect, understanding, and ''one'' because you are submissive. Try an experiment!
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Thank you!

Good evening Mrs Chima.
Moderator, Panel of Judges, Co-debaters, Nairlanders, and Guests. I acknowledge you all.
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[quote author=Mrs..Chima]Good morning ladies and gentles, thank you for allowing me to express my logic contribution for this debate. I hope that you find my contribution logical and factual.

The moderator asked, “ A man should assert his authority and superiority in a relationship". What relationship? Marriage? Courtship? Intimate encounter? Some debaters will say that it is a God’s given right and in religious doctrines that a man should hold authority over his household albeit confusing “head” with superiority.
[/quote]Mrs. Chima, superiority is one of the characteristics of the ''Head'' which is synonymous to Man.
[quote author=Mrs..Chima]
I am not a religious person but I have read the bible and other religious books. According to the Bible, a man that leaves his mother and father cleaved to his wife and become “one”. How can a man hold superiority over his wife if he is “one” with his wife? Does that sound logical to you? I think not, ladies and gentlemen.

[/quote]Mrs. Chima, sorry to say, and not to be rude. Most of your conclusions are rather illogical.
''Im not religious'', that was your confession. So, how do you know about what you talked about. Wrongly preaching what you don't practice/understand.
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A woman like you brought predicament upon mankind. Eve is her name, just because her husband couldn't play his authority asserting role upon her, but being emotional, and exhibiting I-don't-want-to-hurt-her-feeling syndrome.
We wouldn't have been in this mess today if Adam had rebuked his wife, Eve from the beginning.
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We all knew how the story ended. Adam was held responsible, and not Eve.
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A Man and Woman becoming one is not an issue. Only ''one'' voice is required in a family. It becomes rowdy with ''two'' voices, when both speak en bloc. A man is loving, caring, courteous and undertanding despite being superior. Thats one the beauties of Man. He surely listens to his wife (she is not deaf and dumb) complaints and contibutions, but he concludes by drawing the curtains. And when he does, he does! The woman dares not question him. How will she even question a sound conclusion/judegement.
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God is not the author of confusion, and He wouldnt support either.
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Sarah would have got Abraham killed/lynched if she didn't follow his stupid-like instruction. Unsic, ''....don't tell them you are my Wife, but my Sister.....''
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You might ask, ''Why are you using scenarios from the Bible?'' Yes, Im using them because they are the most archaic, and originality in their courses.
Besides, History embedded in the Bible.
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''You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free''. Truth is the Bible. So, I don't know why someone will say ''Lets not bring religion or God into this matter.'' when our lives revolve round about it knowingly or unknowingly (rather consciously or uncousciously)
[quote author=Mrs..Chima]
According to the synonyms of superiority, it means better, excellence, top, dominance, supremacy, and perfection. With these examples, why would a loving and spiritual imperfect man claims such adjectives that solidify his belittling attitude toward his wife?

[/quote]We are not ''imperfect'' if superiority means better, excellence, top, dominance, supremacy, and 'perfection'.
We are termed ''imperfect'' by woman due to our harsh, and corrective steps taken as a result of of the woman's misbehaviour(s).
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No wonder, seeing women that are supposed to be married still single is no more surprising. Even the single parents. The ''punch bags'' also. Go and ask about them, most lack submissiveness. They want to talk while the Man is talking. They don't want to be submissive.
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Gender Equality is now the order of the day. Can you imagine! The woman that should be at home preparing food for her Man that has gone out since dawn to provide for the family was busy carrying placard amongst other disobedient and rude Woman on the streets of Nigeria, protesting for Gender Equality. What a priority in its misplacement!
Was she not to be at home asserting the asserted authority of the Man on the children, and the upkeeping of the home for a secured tomorrow!
How won't we be having 'faulty' children as leaders of tomorrow due to 'faulty' homes as a result of a 'faulty' women!
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No wonder some men are always eager to have a teacher as a wife, instead of those priority-misplaced ones in the Senate House, House of Representative et al. Some are even Ministers. Tell me, what have they contributed so far. Even Sirleaf of Liberia is not excluded.
''We can manage our homes and public offices without any problem'' they managed to say. You will understand better if you have watched the seasonal movie ''Commander-in-chief''. A typical example. Try watch it!

Mr. Moderator, Im done with my write up againt Mrs. Chima's first post. But after quoting and countering, I discovered that it can't fit in into a box as A post (i.e. it exceeded the number of characters)
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What should I do?
Should I still go ahead even if when A post is gonna be taking two posting boxes.
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I guess u can undertand with my being so explicit!

@@clears his face again@@
So, Im still in!
Mrs. Chima?
Hmmm!
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Mr. Moderator, when is the deadline for this round cos Im gonna be in church from 5 till around 8!

sexkillz: [color=#000030]Cumulative Scores.

Supporting Team:

MRbrownJAY = 192.5
Ayobase = 142
Dont8 = 139.75
Bennyraz = 117.75

Opposing team:

Uj sizzle = 187.9
Mrs Chima = 174
Candygosh = 166.75
Acidosis = 162.75

Pairing

MRbrownJAY vs Uj sizzle

Ayobase vs Mrs Chima

Dont8 vs Candygosh


Debaters are to reply only to the person they have been paired with.

You are entitled to only 3 posts addressing the issue. The fourth and subsequent posts you make addressing the issue will not be put into consideration.

You are free to engage your opponent quoting and dissecting their arguments from the previous round and also make a convincing conclusion in your last post. . .


The 3rd round has been declared open. . .

Acidosis and Bennyraz have been eliminated for lowest points from both groups. . .


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