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logicboy01: So, I am a Satanist just because I'm an atheist?

Your forefathers were all pagans until the Europeans came with slavery and christianity. Honestly, you should be more knowledgeable about religion.

God in the bible permits inbreeding. Adam was the parent of Eve. Eve came from Adam's rib. Adam and Eve had children. Incest.

logicboy01: You talk as if evil did not exist in the past. The incestous things you mention happens many times in the bible. Slavery existed before Jesus.


Sorry but you and the bible are wrong.

logicboy01: Atheism is inevitable, the only problem is the pace at which it grows. Atheism grows fast under certain conditions;


1) The internet;
Nigeria's internet usage is growing as more and more communication companies are offering new internet packages. The internet is where people can learn lots about any topic. Religion is constantly debated and attacked on the internet. Religions are not afforded the blasphemy laws or protection they have in the real world on the internet. There are millions articles on the evils of religion on the internet. There are articles showing the flaws of holy books. There are many debate videos on youtube where atheist debaters like Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens defeat the religious debaters. Religions die on the internet, a wise saying says. It is therefore no surprise that theocracies always censor the internet.

2) Nigerians in diaspora/atheist countries;
More and more Nigerians are travelling out of Nigeria for study and work. Many of such Nigerians go to atheistic/secular countries like the UK, Japan, South Korea etc. which are all better developed than Nigeria. Some of these people take bits of the culture back to Nigeria on their return.

3) Religious problems;
Many Nigerians are turned off from religion after they see their religious leaders adding to the problems of Nigeria and while God continues to watch. They have seen pastors slapping innocent children accused of witchcraft, they have seen terrorists (Boko Haram) kill people, holy pedophilia etc.
Such Nigerians also ask why Nigeria upon all its religiousity is no better than countries that are irreligious.

4) Human rights;
European countries, America and other developed countries are now pushing for better human rights around the world, especially in Africa and the middle east. Human rights are quite secular when considering that free speech and the right to sexual orientation have negative implications for religion.
-free speech; bye-bye to blasphemy laws
-right to sexual orientation; gay is here to stay!

5) The rise of secular humanists and atheist organisations/people;
Many Nigerians including myself are dedicating themselves to seek equal treatment of non-believers in religion and for a better Nigeria. Atheists/skpetics/agnostics are always easy targets for bigotry and hatred in religious countries. Furthermore, many atheists feel that with education and proper information, people will be more likely to make better decisions. A higher literacy rate is key to reducing extremist behaviours. If we explain to people that we should put humans first, learn more about the world and focus human development through cooperation,, Nigeria will be a better place

cyrexx: Jesus had been coming soon since 2000 years ago. Every generation of Christians, including the first, has thought they were living in the “end times.” Jesus is reported as telling his disciples, “There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.” (Matthew 16:28 ) He promised, “Behold I come quickly.” (Revelation 3:11) But 2,000 years is not “quickly.”

He has been coming soon before we were born and he will still be coming soon long after we are dead and gone.

dekung: Going by your assertions since there is the sun, rain, wind etc that means God is alive right? Good. Then since we see cars running arround our streets, it means henry ford is still alive. Since we have electricity all arround, it means Michael Faraday is alive. Because you are probably typing with an I phone, or MacBook or I-pad it then means Steve Jobs is still alive. Finally because you are alive it means your great great grand father is still alive. Hmmm!!! I like your logic. Ok ok let me cut you some slack, you can use your bible to prove God is alive. Be my guest but at the end of the day, it will still come down to flawed logic like the one you postulated above

dekung: How can you prove that the god you worship is alive? Please use everyday examples, nothing biblical alright. Use example anyone can relate with. I said you should not use the bible because using it will be like the eveidence that Farouk Lawan did not collect $620,000 bribe can be found in the book his younger brother wrote. I believe you get my point. Prove the your god is alive by using independent provable examples. Prove you God is alive as against Zeus, Horus, Ra, Odin, Thor, Jupita, Venus......

logicboy: You are very foolish. You do not even realise that your christian religion is a result of paganism. It has pagan origins. Jesus is not the first god to have an immaculate or virgin birth. Easter and christmas are pagan holidays in origin. You have the internet, go and read.


Tell me, who is the first person to have immaculate or virgin birth ? Why can't you tell me yourself? You are a liar.


As for the points I raised why did you avoid the parts that said you should kill people that dont listen to priests? Why did you avoid the quote that demeans women? What about slavery in the bible? You cherrypick from the evil in the bible and you know in your conscience that you're a hypocrite.


Where in bible says they should kill those that don't listen to priest ?Qoute that verse if you are telling the true.

About the women and slavery ,you can not undersand because you are not at God side .And if i want to explaine it for you to understand ,it would be a long story.


As for the murder of gays andn witches, how is that okay? How do you prove that someoene is a witch? If someone accused your mother of witchcraft, should we kill your mother? There are millions of gay people in America, you agree that we should kill them for just being gay? Ode.

Notice that the bible is cowardly, telling us to kill people that can not defend themselves; th minorities- the gay minority, the few people that would be accused of witchcraft, the children etc. Where is the death sentence for corrupt priests or politicians?


You misunderstood me ,i did'nt say they should kill gay but i asked if that act is good

As for your Jesus, he would rebuke your black azz. Jesus came for only isrealiutes- the lost sheep of isreal. Go and read your bible.

logicboy: You are very foolish. You do not even realise that your christian religion is a result of paganism. It has pagan origins. Jesus is not the first god to have an immaculate or virgin birth. Easter and christmas are pagan holidays in origin. You have the internet, go and read.
Tell me, who is the first person to have immaculate or virgin birth ? Why can't you tell me yourself? You are a liar.


As for the points I raised why did you avoid the parts that said you should kill people that dont listen to priests? Why did you avoid the quote that demeans women? What about slavery in the bible? You cherrypick from the evil in the bible and you know in your conscience that you're a hypocrite.


Where in bible says they should kill those that don't listen to priest ?Qoute that verse if you are telling the true. About the women and slavery ,you can not undersand because you are not at God side .And if i want to explaine it for you to understand ,it would be a long story.
As for the murder of gays andn witches, how is that okay? How do you prove that someoene is a witch? If someone accused your mother of witchcraft, should we kill your mother? There are millions of gay people in America, you agree that we should kill them for just being gay? Ode.

Notice that the bible is cowardly, telling us to kill people that can not defend themselves; th minorities- the gay minority, the few people that would be accused of witchcraft, the children etc. Where is the death sentence for corrupt priests or politicians?



As for your Jesus, he would rebuke your black azz. Jesus came for only isrealiutes- the lost sheep of isreal. Go and read your bible.

logicboy: You are very foolish. You do not even realise that your christian religion is a result of paganism. It has pagan origins. Jesus is not the first god to have an immaculate or virgin birth. Easter and christmas are pagan holidays in origin. You have the internet, go and read.
Tell me, who is the first person to have immaculate or virgin birth ? Why can't you tell me yourself? You are a liar.


As for the points I raised why did you avoid the parts that said you should kill people that dont listen to priests? Why did you avoid the quote that demeans women? What about slavery in the bible? You cherrypick from the evil in the bible and you know in your conscience that you're a hypocrite.


As for the murder of gays andn witches, how is that okay? How do you prove that someoene is a witch? If someone accused your mother of witchcraft, should we kill your mother? There are millions of gay people in America, you agree that we should kill them for just being gay? Ode.

Notice that the bible is cowardly, telling us to kill people that can not defend themselves; th minorities- the gay minority, the few people that would be accused of witchcraft, the children etc. Where is the death sentence for corrupt priests or politicians?



As for your Jesus, he would rebuke your black azz. Jesus came for only isrealiutes- the lost sheep of isreal. Go and read your bible.

jagunlabi: Ayomivic, do you even realize that the bible god himself is a PAGAN deity?

logicboy: You are on the wrong side according to all religions apart from christianity. Have you ever thought about that? What if the God that exists is Allah or Odin? Would you not be in muslim or pagan hell?

Christianity/Judaism is not the first or 100th religion in the world.


Furthermore, you should realise that there exists no physical proof for your God.


Your bible has so much evil in it that it eclipses the good that is in it.



Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)


Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)


Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)


Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)


Degrading women;
1 Corinthians 14:34
women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says.

Slavery
Leviticus 25:44
"Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves.

1 Peter 2:18
"Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh."

Titus 2:9
"Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them"

handsomeness: '1hour'
of Rendering Praises to
God will Open Doors and
BLESS you more than
'10hours'
of singing Worldly
Songs..
Have you praised Him
yet??
Where are you now?
Are you in the kitchen?
Toilet?
Bathroom?
Doing nothing?
Doing morning chores?
Having Breakfast?
Going to school? Are you
going to work?
It does not matter
where you are now; or
what you are doing -
Just decide right now to
praise Him, start
praising Him now.
As you do that: God will
come down and bless
you beyond your
imagination!
I don't know about you,
but right now am
Praising God with a Song
-
" Be lifted Higher"

haibe: Am a christian and still one but something borders me, God is omniscient and knows the end from the beginning, he knew satan and adam and eve will sin S̶̲̥̅Ơ̴̴̴̴̴̴͡ why did he create them since he knows the reward of sin is death and according to Jesus only few will be saved(mattew 7:14), There are now millions of people who are
burning, in agony, faces creased in
incessant pain, torment beyond
imagination, limbs torn, emotions stretched
like rubber that can never break and in a
world of pain for ETERNITY.
For them my heart grieves so strongly that
it brings tears to my eyes……But God knew
this would happen. I find it very difficult
to separate the God that we are supposed
to follow by “faith” and one that would
‘create’ knowing that there would be so
much carnage for so few survivors.
Why did God d̶̲̅σ this?

dorox: It is the religion of "peace".

logicboy: Ignorance is a disease

logicboy: Ignorance is a disease

logicboy: Really? which pronunciation is the correct one? Yeshua or Jesus or Iesus?

logicboy: Really? which pronunciation is the correct one? Yeshua or Jesus or Iesus?

Goshen360: @ frosbel,

No any bible believing and bible study student will argue that Jesus is NOT God. Jesus is God, I believe but the issue here is, Is Jesus (God) the SAME as the Father (God) or Is Jesus (God) the same being/person as the Father who is also God? This is the question we are talking about.

Image123: Gen 2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
Gen 2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Obviously, from this passage it is not figurative. It was planted by God , and grew, and was in the middle of the garden of Eden. the garden of Eden is not Eve's body BTW. And the name of the tree is stated so i wonder why the question. The name of the fruit is the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil