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IslamRe: Muslims: What Did You Learn In Islam Recently? by babs787(m): 2:49pm On Jun 07, 2008
Contemplation

If an artist were to draw a very close image of a human, people would be amazed to his ability to imitate, while in reality, all he did was to reflect the human’s image with his hand using some paint; again, is it not appropriate and correct to ponder over how man was created by Allaah from this drop and then given the very best form and shape?

Another amazing thing is that the foetus, just before delivery, turns upside down when it gets larger and when the womb becomes too small for it, in preparation for emerging into this world; it does this as if it is a sound-minded person who thinks and plans ahead; then Allaah guided it to cling to its mother’s nipple for food.

Allaah Says what means: “Has there [not] come upon man a period of time when he was not a thing [even] mentioned? Indeed, We created man from a sperm-drop mixture that We may try him; and We made him hearing and seeing. Indeed, We guide him to the way, be he grateful or ungrateful.” [Quran 76: 1-3]

Note the greatness of Allaah in just one of His creations - man; and then there are many wonders in the creation and structure of man which have not yet been discovered! How then is the case regarding all the hidden and unknown matters that Allaah Has instilled in the earth, rivers, seas and mountains?

If we take a look at some insects, we find amazing creations, such as the spider who builds his web with a wonderfully engineered design. It goes to riverbanks and looks for two close locations with a gap in between that is not more than two to three feet apart, and then begins constructing its web from one end by spiting its saliva, which is in the form of a thread, then goes to the other end and then goes back and forth, constructing very accurate parallel lines in a beautiful symmetric manner; then it constructs lines that are at right-angles to form the shape of a net.

After it finishes, it sits at one end of the net awaiting for a fly or other flying insects that it eats to fall into the trap (i.e., its net) and then it attacks it and eats it. If it fails to catch anything, it goes to the corner of the web and drops a thread from it, then it hangs itself from it upside down, and if a fly flies by, it throws itself on it, binds it with the thread, and eats it.

Regardless of how small or big a creature is, one will find many amazing things regarding it which cannot be enumerated … did such creatures teach themselves all these amazing things? Did other humans teach them?

Anyone with vision will definitely realise the greatness of Allaah in these small creatures and realise the perfect ability and wisdom of Allaah. Man is far more complicated and amazing in his creation than animals, and yet when man sees a strange worm or animal, he becomes astonished by its creation more than he does by his own amazing structure!

Allaah Has commanded us to contemplate over His creation and encouraged us to contemplate over the creation of man, the seas, the heavens and the earth, but why is this so? Shaykh ‘Abdur-Rahmaan As-Sa’di said: “Allaah Has commanded this in order for man to discover the reason behind his creation, which entails that contemplation is an act of worship that is performed only by those whom Allaah chooses, and when they do so, they realise that they were not created haphazardly.”

Some people are only attracted to the final shape of the creation but never stop to think about the reason for its creation and the great objective behind it, which is to contemplate, and thus worship Allaah.

Contemplating over matters related to the Hereafter is a very important matter. We do not have any of the fruits of Paradise, nor do we have any of the chains with which people are punished in Hell, but we do have texts from the Quran and the Sunnah describing to us in detail how things will be on the Day of Resurrection, with all their descriptions; this is from the mercy of Allaah, in order for us to have something to contemplate over, because the more one knows about the Hereafter, the more his heart will react.

Why does Allaah mention to us the preconditions of the Hour? He does so in order for them to be something that we contemplate upon. We must always be concerned about these matters. The problem is in man, who does not ponder or contemplate about any of these matters; people have busied themselves nowadays thinking about prohibited matters, or about worldly pleasures. Pleasure has overwhelmed people’s lives, and thus contemplating over important matters, which would result in true pleasure and happiness, has become rare.

Once, Sufyaan was in a gathering, when suddenly, the lamp that was lighting the congregation ran out of oil, and so its flame went out. After someone had added oil and re-ignited the lamp, they found that Sufyaan had cried, so they asked him why he did so, and he replied: “This darkness reminded me of the grave.” Due to the hearts of such people being alive, anything around them caused them to contemplate and connect that to the important matters which one ought to contemplate over.

One of the Salaf was waiting for bread in a bakery, when he began staring at the fire and crying like a baby. A man asked him why, and he replied: “I remembered the Hellfire."

‘Umar ibn ‘Abdul-‘Azeez said: “Contemplation is one of the favours of Allaah and one of the best acts of worship that one can perform.”

‘Abdullaah ibn ‘Utbah asked Umm Tharr about the best act of worship that Abu Tharr would perform, she answered: “Contemplation.”

Al-Hasan wrote to ‘Umar ibn ‘Abdul-‘Azeez saying: “Know that contemplation encourages one to do good and encourages one to shun evil and regret it.”

Muhammad ibn Ka’b said: “To recite only chapter Az-Zalzalah and Al-Qaari’ah all night long with contemplation is dearer to me than reciting the entire Quran without contemplation.”

One must always contemplate, because this will lead him to performing things which please Allaah and which instil tranquillity in his heart, which would make him fearful of Allaah, give him wisdom, and revive his heart.
Christianity EtcRe: The Duality Nature Of Jesus Christ by babs787(m): 2:22pm On Jun 07, 2008
@Tayo-D


@Olabs,
Is that not a typographical error or you were not with your glasses because I sent the rejoinder and not Olabowale grin. You too dey chop groundnut cheesy cheesy


Exactly what are you talking about here? Are you doubting the Aposlteship of Peter too now?
I asked a very straight forward question: Is the peter that wrote the apocalyse same as the one in the letter of Peter?


In any case, you are yet to answer my question: "which of the prophets or Apostles testify to the prophethood or inspiration of Moohammed's revelations?"
Do you need verses from your bible supporting Qu ranic verses? Do you have any christian prophet?

And don't start again with the Moohammed is the Comforter thingy.
You and your friends have not been able to solve the questions on 'comforter' particularly the last verse presented by Olaadegbu where holy spirit descended on Jesus. I wonder how the Spirit Jesus said would come after him was around during his time huh


How can he be the comforter when he declares the Jews will all be wiped out on the last day.
You need to grab and read the history of the arabs and the Jews and when you are through, I will supply you atrocities perpetrated by the Jews to both Mu. slims and Christians.

he mustn't be providing much comfort for the Jewess to have posisoned and killed him.
Na wa o. Ignorance is really a disease and you confirmed that. You are not the only christian to come with the above but your folks here have said same but let me use this opportunity to ask you and your friends: If it is the poison that killed Him, why did he lived up to three years after eating the meal considering the fact others died? (Let me stop here and would present the full gist to you when you are able to provide rebuttal to my question)



I laugh even harder when I hear mooslims claiming the bible is corrupted when even their alah asked their prophet and by extension all mooslims to confirm the revelation they have received through those who had the bible - Jews and Christians.
Brother, point of correction, Alla h did not tell Him to ask you because early christians were different fro you in belief and by the way, my Creator did not say he revealed the BIBLE. I am still coming to why the use of christians to mean Nasara in the Qu ran.



Specifically how Jehovah setteld them in the area we know as Palestine today. If you believe God settled them there, why are you guys bent on displacing them and killing them? See hypocrisy at work!
You are the one being biased just bcause you are a christian. Ask a very good student of history and he would expose what seemed unknown to you. Besides, I have write ups on the Jews and their atrocities. Just go to search engine and educate yourself. grin


So Moohammed doubted the revelations he received?
Tayo, why are you writing like this sad? Are you saying that you do not understand English Language again grin? Can you show me where my prophet claimed that he doubted the revelations?


And again, who are those who owned the Book and read ahead of Moohammed?
Hope you are not trying to say that they are christians, far from that. No christian prophet at all and God did not reveal the BIBLE.


The answer is plain and simple - Jews and Christians. The same copy of the Book is still here today for your references but of course, you guys know better than your lord and consider the book you should refernce corrupted.
Brother, He did not reveal bible and please if He did that, who did He reveal BIBLE TO?


Who are those who read the Book before Moohammed came along?
The early Christians called Nasara are quite different from you. Get that one straight Tayo. grin


Who are the people of the Book? Jews and Christians.  The children of Isreal were mentioned by name in the previous verse and if alah meant to refer to them again, he would have mentioned their name. So no dribbling around that fact.
The translators used the word' christians' to replace 'nasara' because they found them closer to the early christians and are called 'Nazarenes' . Early Christians are different from present day Christian in the sense that, they believe in only one God as opposed to trinity/ duality present christians keep reaching, forbidding to eat pork; perhaps keeping also the sabbath, but probably circumcision, do not believe in the divinity of Jesus, believe in his miraculous birth etc

The word 'christian' was unknown to Jesus unlike Is lam which was named by God Himself:

Qu ran 4 v 3: This day I have perfected your religion for you, completed my favour upon you, and have chosen for you The Great Religion as your religion.

The community where Jesus lives was called “The Nazarene Community” and NOT 'NAZARETH' as believed by some bible readers who says 'Jesus of Nazareth' because it did not exist in bliblical terms and unlikely to have appeared in the third century.because Jesus according to the learned men of Christendom was known as 'The Nazarene'

The New living Translation 16 v 6: but the angel said, Do not be so surprised. You are looking for Jesus, the Nazarene

The gospel of Matthew too:

2 v 23: This fulfilled what was spoken by the prophets concerning the Messiah: He will be called a Nazarene

The word Christians has been mentioned, according to the Bible, only several years after the ascension of Jesus Christ.  Although Paul of Tarsus happened to be the first Christian writer who created the religion that we know now as Christianity and had mentioned the name Christians and used it to refer to the followers of Jesus Christ, Jesus himself did not give the title. Jesus never calls his disciples  'Christians' nor did he ever call his preaching
'Christianity'. The followers of Jesus can never be christians because they were Jew.

Acts 11 v 26: It was there at Antioch that the believers were first called Christians…

It was in Antioch the word 'christians' was first used and Bible Scholars made it known to us that before Antioch, they were called Nazarene which happens to be a group of Jews that observed the Law of Moses and recognized Jesus as the Messiah.

It is also in the Acts that a pagan king Agrippa joined the people to first called the followers of Jesus 'christians' and he was moved by the frantic effort of Paul to turn him into Christian that he said:

Acts 26 v 28:Do you think you can make me a Christian so quickly?

Thus, why the word “Christian” did not appear in Church testimony until well into the second Century (100 or so years after Jesus ascension), has been explained in the very Orthodox “Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church”. With over 480 contributors consisting of leading Anglican, Roman Catholic, Lutheran, Presbyterian, Methodist, Jewish Orthodox and other clerical experts, they claimed on the cover that they were “the acclaimed authority on the Church”. They made this frank statement:

“Owing to its Pagan origin, the word [Christian] was long avoided by Christian writers”

(Oxford University Press, Third Edition), 1997, 333, in Bushby, Tony, The Bible Fraud: An Untold Story of Jesus Christ (The Pacific Blue Group Inc, Hong Kong), 2001, 93)

Al-Hafiz Imam Ibn Kathir (d.1406 C.E)[2], a great scholar of The Great Religion in his Tafsir or commentary of the Holy The Great Book states that:

“When God raised Jesus to heaven, his followers divided into sects and groups. Some of them believed in what God sent Jesus as, a servant of God, His Messenger, and the son of His female-servant. However, some of them went into extreme over Jesus, believing that he was the son of God. Some of them said that Jesus was God Himself, while others said that he was one of the Trinity

Imam Shamsuddin Ibn Abi Bakr Ibn Qayyim al-Jauziyyah (d.1292 C.E)[4], another great scholar of The Great Religion in his “Hidayatul Hayara fi Ajwibatul Yahud wa al-Nasara” (Guidance to the Uncertain In Reply to the Jews and the Christians) said:

“The Messiah’s companion adhered to his teaching…after his departure. Then some fellows embarked on change, alteration, endearing themselves to the masses by what the masses like, antagonizing and contradicting the Jews, grossly deviating from the religion of the Messiah, and ultimately becoming stripped of from it in totality.”
Christianity EtcRe: The Duality Nature Of Jesus Christ by babs787(m): 9:17pm On Jun 05, 2008
@Tayo-D


I hope you will extend the same courtesy to Moohammed who never witnessed Jesus' ministry but claim to know jack about Him. Of Apostle Paul, Peter, a witness of Jesus life, death and resurrection had this to say: 2 Peter 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. So my question to you is this: "which of the prophets or Apostles testify to the prophethood or inspiration of Moohammed's revelations?"
Is the Peter that wrote the apolapse same as the above?



And by the way, when are you going to obey your Moohammed's coomand that you are meant to learn from Christians and not sit over us in judgement as if you know our faith better than we do?
Surah 10:94 - If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt.
Brother, I laugh when I hear christians hiding behind the above verse and using it ignorantly here on Nairaland. I think we need to shun arrogance and learn from each other.


We settled the Children of Israel in a beautiful dwelling-place, and provided for them sustenance of the best: it was after knowledge had been granted to them, that they fell into schisms. Verily Allah will judge between them as to the schisms amongst them, on the Day of Judgment.

If thou were in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt.
And when We assigned to the Children of Israel and excellent abode and We provided them with good things, and they differed not until there came to them the knowledge. Surely, thy Lord will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection concerning that which they now differ.

And if thou art in doubt concerning that which We have sent down to thee, ask those who have been reading the Book before thee. Indeed the truth has come to thee from thy Lord; be not, therefore, of those who doubt.
Explanation on chapter 10 v 94

If thou wert in doubt as to what We have revealed unto thee, then ask those who have been reading the Book from before thee: the Truth hath indeed come to thee from thy Lord: so be in no wise of those in doubt.
When we read the verse preceding this we find that Allah (swt) is telling Prophet Muhammad (saw) in the Quran regarding the Children of Israel and how much Allah (swt) blessed these people.

We settled the Children of Israel in a beautiful dwelling-place, and provided for them sustenance of the best: it was after knowledge had been granted to them, that they fell into schisms. Verily Allah will judge between them as to the schisms amongst them, on the Day of Judgment. (Chapter 10 Verse 93)
Then in this verse Allah (swt) tells Prophet Muhammad (saw) to ask them if he does not believe in what is revealed. So Prophet Muhammad (saw) is instructed to ask regarding this particular information if he does not believe what Allah (swt) has revealed to him. Hence he would ask the Children of Israel whether they were blessed by Allah (swt) or whether disputes did occur between them.

I dont even know what that has got to do with you being a christian because the verse referred to the children of Israel.
Christianity EtcRe: The Duality Nature Of Jesus Christ by babs787(m): 9:02pm On Jun 04, 2008
@Olaadegbu


Jesus Christ)

1. Adam was head of the old creation (Gen.1:26); Christ is head of new creation (2 Cor.5:17-18; Eph.2:10)
2. Adam sinned (Gen 2:17;3:6) Christ did not (1 Peter 2:22)
3. Adam by one sin made many sinners (Rom.5:15) Christ by the act of obedience made many righteous (Rom.5:19; 2 Cor.5:21; Heb.10:10-14; 1Pet.2:24)
4. Adam was made a living soul: Christ, a quickening Spirit (1 Cor.15:45)
5. Adam was of the earth: Christ was the Lord from heaven (1 Cor.15:47)
6. Adam brought death (Rom.5:12,17; 1 Cor.15:21); Christ brings life (Rom.5:17-18; John 10:10; 1 Cor.15:21-22)
7. Adam passed a sinful nature to his offspring(Rom.5:12,19; Eph.2:3; Psalm 51:5); Christ imparts a sinless nature(Rom.5:19; 2 Cor.5:17-18; 2Pet.1:4)
8. Adam brought condemnation(Rom.5:16-18); Christ justifies (Rom.5:18; 3:24; 4:25)
9. Adam lost the grace or favour of God (Rom.5:15; Gen.2:17; 3:6-24); Christ restores grace to men Rom.5:15-17; 3:24; John 1:17)
10.Adam offended God (Rom.5:15,17-18; Gen.3:6,17-24); Christ pleased God (Rom.5:18; Matthew 3:17; 17:5; 2 Pet.1:17)
11.Death reigned through Adam (Rom.5:12,14,17); Life reigns through Christ (Rom.5:17-18,21; John 3:16; 10:10)
12.Adam caused sin to abound (Rom.5:12,14,17); Christ causes grace to abound (Rom.5:20).
Gods willing, I will respond to your above quote one after the other when I am less busy probably most of them with verses from your book but I noticed that you didnt give me verses directly from Jesus but from those that never witnessed his ministry but claimed to have received inspiration.
IslamRe: Muslims: What Did You Learn In Islam Recently? by babs787(m): 8:56pm On Jun 04, 2008
The Best of the Best



Have you ever wondered to yourself what it actually means to be the best?

When we are told that ‘this is the best’ or ‘that was the greatest’ or ‘this will bring the most benefit’ etc, have you ever thought who on Earth gave such people/editors the authority to tell us that? In an age when we have a plethora of ‘Top 10’ or ‘Top 100’ lists on everything from cars to films, from foods to places, one wonders where is that list that will really provide some benefit to us in this current short life and the next very long one.

Well, wait no more. Below, from a choice of hundreds of narrations from our beloved Prophet Muhammad (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) you can find 100 hadith, in no particular order of merit, detailing ways on exactly how to become the best, how to have the most excellent characteristics, what really will prove most beneficial for us to know, what really are the greatest things to think about and hope for and indeed, how to become the most beloved of people to our Exalted Creator, Allah (SWT)

No more subjectivity, no more empty statements; just the divine criteria of what really is the best as developed by the very best himself, Muhammad al-Mustapha (salAllahu alayhi wasalam).

Take some time out (it's not short!) to read them, memorise them, and then see how many you can get done and how many of your friends and relatives you can get involved in it too.

Don’t be ordinary. Don’t be common. Don’t be average. Be the best.

Sayyidina Muhammad (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) told us:

1. "The best of the Muslims is he from whose hand and tongue the Muslims are safe." [Muslim]

2. "The best of people are those with the most excellent character." [at-Tabarani, Sahih]

3. "The best of people are those that bring most benefit to the rest of mankind." [Daraqutni, Hasan]

4. "The best of people are those who are best in fulfilling (rights)." [Ibn Majah, Sahih]

5. "The best of people during fitnah (trouble) is a man who takes up the reins of his horse pursuing the enemies of Allah, causing them fear yet they make him fearful too, or a man who secludes himself in the desert fulfilling the rights of Allah upon him." [Hakim, Sahih]

6. "The best of mankind is my generation, then those that follow them and then those that follow them. Then there shall come a people after them who will become avaricious, who will love gluttony, and who will give witness before they are asked for it." [at-Tirmidhi, Sahih]

7. "The best of people are those who live longest and excel in their deeds, whereas the worst of people are those who live longest and corrupt their deeds." [at-Tirmidhi, Sahih]

8. "The best of women are those that please him (her husband) when he sees her, obeys him when she is commanded, and who does not secretly betray him with regards to herself and her money in that which he dislikes." [Ahmad, Sahih]

9. "The best of women are those that please you when you see them, obey you when commanded, and who safeguard themselves and your money in your absence." [Tabarani, Sahih]

10. "The best of marriages are the easiest ones." [abu Dawud, Sahih]

11. "The best of your dates is the Borniyyu date; it expels disease yet does not contain any disease itself." [Hakim, Hasan]

12. "The best of your garments are those which are white; shroud your dead in them and clothe your living with them. The best of that which you apply to your eyelids is antimony causing the eyelashes to grow and sharpening the eyesight." [ibn Hibban, Sahih]

13. "The best quality of your religion is scrupulousness." [Hakim, Sahih]

14. "The best of your religion is that which is easiest." [Ahmad, Sahih]

15. "The best of the prayer lines for men are the first rows, the worst being the final rows. The best of the prayer lines for women are the final rows and the worst are the first rows." [Muslim]

16. "The best prayers for women are those performed in the most secluded parts of their houses." [Ibn Khuzaymah, Sahih]

17. "The best of you in Islam are those who are most excellent in character as long as you deeply understand the religion." [Ahmad, Sahih]

18. "The best of you are the best of you in fulfilling (rights)." [Ahmad, Sahih]

19. "The best of you are those who are best to their families, and I am the best of you to my family." [at-Tirmidhi, Sahih]

20. "The best of you are my generation, then those that follow them and then those that follow them. Then there shall come after them a people who will betray and be untrustworthy, will give witness even though they have not been asked to, will make vows yet will not fulfil them and obesity will appear amongst them." [Sahih al-Bukhari]

21. "The best of you are those who feed others and return greetings." [abu Ya'la, Hasan]

22. "The best of you is he from whom good is anticipated and safety from his evil is assured; the worst of you is he from whom nothing good is expected and one is not safe from his evil." [at-Tirmidhi, Sahih]

23. "The best thing mankind has been given is excellent character." [Hakim, Sahih]

24. "The best of that which you treat yourself with is cupping." [Hakim, Sahih]

25. "The best of journeys undertaken are to this Mosque of mine and the Ancient House." [Ahmad, Sahih]

26. "The best of which man can leave behind for himself are three: a righteous child who supplicates for him, an ongoing charity whose reward continues to reach him and knowledge which others benefit from after him." [ibn Hibban, Hasan]

27. “The best Mosques for women are the most secluded parts of their houses." [al-Bayhaqi, Sahih)

28. "The best of the world’s women are four: Maryam bint Imran, Khadijah bint Khuwaylid, Fatimah bint Muhammad and Asiyah the wife of Fir'awn." [Ahmad, Sahih]

29. "The best of days that you should perform cupping are the 17th, 19th and 21st of the month. I did not pass a single gathering of angels on the night of Isra’ except that they would say to me, ‘O Muhammad, perform cupping!’" [Ahmad, Sahih]

30. "The best day on which the Sun has risen is Friday; on it Adam was created, on it Adam was made to enter Paradise and on it he was expelled. The Hour will not be established except on Friday." [Muslim]

31. "Verily, the best of perfume for men is that which is strong in smell and light in colour, and the best of perfume for women is that which is strong in colour and light in smell." [at-Tirmidhi, Sahih]

32. "The most beloved of religions according to Allah the Most High is the ‘easy and flexible religion.’" [Ahmad, Hasan]

33. "The most beloved of deeds according to Allah are the continuous ones, even if they are little." [Agreed upon]

34. "The most beloved of names according to Allah are AbdAllah, ‘Abdul-Rahman and Harith." [Abu Ya‛la, Sahih]

35. "The most beloved of deeds according to Allah are the prayer in its right time, then to treat the parents in an excellent manner, and then Jihad in the path of Allah." [Agreed upon]

36. "The most beloved of deeds according to Allah is that you die and yet your tongue is still moist from the remembrance of Allah." [ibn Hibban, Hasan]

37. "The most beloved words according to Allah the Most High are four: SubhanAllah, Alhamdulillah, La ilaha illallah and Allahu Akbar; there is no problem with which one you start with." [Muslim]

38. "The most beloved of speech according to Allah is when the servant says, ‘Subhanallahi wa bihamdihi’ (How Transcendent is Allah and we praise him!)." [Muslim]

39. "The most beloved of speech according to Allah the Most High is that which Allah chose for his Angels: Subhana Rabbi wa bihamdihi, Subhana Rabbi wa bihamdihi, Subhana Rabbi wa bihamdihi." [at-Tirmidhi, Sahih].

40. "The most beloved of people according to Allah is he who brings most benefit, and the most beloved of deeds according to Allah the Mighty, the Magnificent, is that you bring happiness to a fellow Muslim, or relieve him of distress, or pay off his debt or stave away hunger from him. It is more beloved to me that I walk with my brother Muslim in his time of need than I stay secluded in the mosque for a month. Whoever holds back his anger, Allah will cover his faults and whoever suppresses his fury while being able to execute it, Allah will fill his heart with satisfaction on the Day of Standing. Whoever walks with his brother Muslim in need until he establishes that for him, Allah will establish his feet firmly on the day when all feet shall slip. Indeed, bad character ruins deeds just as vinegar ruins honey." [at-Tabarani, Hasan]

41. "The most beloved of people to me is A’isha and from the men, Abu Bakr." [agreed upon]

42. "The best of people in recitation are those who when they recite, you see that they fear Allah." [al-Bayhaqi, Sahih]

43. "The best of your leaders are those that you love and they love you, you supplicate for them and they supplicate for you. The worst of your leaders are those that you hate and they hate you, you curse them and they curse you." [Muslim]

44. "The best of you are those who are best in paying off their debts." [Tahawi, Sahih]

45. "The best of you are those with the longest lives and most excellent character." [Bazzar, Sahih]

46. "The best of you are those with the longest lives and best in action." [Hakim, Sahih]

47. "The best of you are those with the softest shoulders during prayer." [al-Bayhaqi, Hasan]

48. "The best of you are those who are best to their wives." [at-Tirmidhi, Sahih]

49. "The best of you are those who are best to their families." [at-Tabarani, Sahih]

50. "The best of you during the ‘Period of Ignorance’ are the best of you in Islam as long as they deeply understand the religion." (Bukhari]

51. "The best of you are those who learn the Qur’an and teach it." [Darimi, Sahih]

52. "The best of companions according to Allah are those who are best to their companion and the best of neighbours according to Allah are those that are best to their neighbour." [at-Tirmidhi, Sahih]

53. "The best of places are the Mosques and the worst of places are the markets." [at-Tabarani, Hasan]

54. "The best supplication on the Day of 'Arafah and the best thing that I and the Prophets before me ever said was, ‘La ilaha illAllah wahdahu la sharika lahu, lahul-mulk wa lahul-hamd wa huwa 'ala kulli shay’in Qadir.’" [at-Tirmidhi, Hasan]

55. "The best of provision is that which suffices." [Ahmad in ‘Zuhd’, Hasan]

56. "The best testimony is when one gives it before he is asked to do so." [Tabarani, Sahih]

57. "The best of dowries are the easiest." [Hakim, Sahih]

58. "The best of charity is that which still leaves you self-sufficient for the upper hand is better than the lower hand; start with those you are responsible for." [Tabarani, Sahih]

59. "The best of gatherings are those that are most open." [abu Dawud, Sahih]

60. "The most beloved deed according to Allah is to have faith in Allah, then to maintain the ties of kinship, and then to command to good and forbid the wrong. The most abhorrent of deeds according to Allah is to associate partners with Him, then to cut the ties of kinship." [Abu Ya’la, Hasan]

61. "The most beloved Jihad according to Allah is that a word of truth be spoken to a tyrant ruler." [at-Tabarani, Hasan]

62. "The most beloved word according to me is that which is most truthful." (Bukhari]

63. "The most beloved fast according to Allah is the fast of Dawud; he would fast every alternate day. The most beloved prayer according to Allah is the prayer of Dawud; he would sleep half the night, stand a third and then sleep for a sixth." [agreed upon]

64. "The most beloved dish according to Allah is that which most hands feed from." [ibn Hibban, Hasan]

65. "The most beloved servant of Allah is he who is most beneficial to his dependents." [Zawa’id al-Zuhd, Hasan]

66. "The best of earnings is that of the labourer as long as he tries his best." [Ahmad, Hasan]

67. "The best of all deeds is to have faith in Allah alone, then Jihad and then an accepted Hajj; they surpass all other deeds like the distance between the rising and setting of the Sun." [Ahmad, Sahih]

68. "The best of all deeds is the Prayer at its earliest time." [at-Tirmidhi, Sahih]

69. "The best of all deeds is the Prayer in its right time, to treat the Parents honourably and Jihad in the path of Allah." [al-Khatib, Sahih]

70. "The best of all deeds is that you bring happiness to your Muslim brother, pay off his debt or feed him bread." [Ibn Adiyy, Hasan]

71. "The best of faith is patience and magnanimity." [Ahmad, Sahih]

72. "The best of days according to Allah is Friday." [al-Bayhaqi, Sahih]

73. "The best of Jihad is that man strives against his soul and desires." [Daylami, Sahih]

74. "The best Hajj is that with the most raised voices and flowing blood." [at-Tirmidhi, Hasan]

75. "The best of supplications is that of on the Day of ‘Arafah, and the best thing that was said by myself and the Prophets before me was, La ilaha illAllah wahdahu la sharika lahu." (There is nothing worthy of worship except Allah alone, He has no partners.) [Malik, Hasan]

76. "The best of dinars are: the dinar spent by a man upon his dependents, the dinar spent by a man upon his horse in the path of Allah and the dinar spent by a man upon his companions in the path of Allah, the Mighty, the Magnificent." [Muslim]

77. "The best word of remembrance is: La ilaha illAllah and the best supplication is: Alhamdulillah." [at-Tirmidhi, Hasan]

78. "The best word of remembrance is: La ilaha illAllah and the best (expression of giving) thanks is: Alhamdulillah." [Baghawi, Hasan]

79. "The best of hours are those deep in the latter part of the night." [at-Tabarani, Sahih]

80. "The best of all martyrs are those who fight in the front line; they do not turn their faces away until they are killed. They will be rolling around in the highest rooms of Paradise , their Lord laughing at them - when your Lord laughs at a servant, there is no accounting for him." [Ahmad, Sahih]

81. "The best of all martyrs is he whose blood is shed and whose horse is slaughtered." [at-Tabarani, Sahih]

82. "The best of all charity is the shade of a canopy (provided) in the path of Allah, the Mighty and Magnificent, to gift ones servant in the path of Allah and to gift ones she-camel in the path of Allah." [Ahmad, Hasan]

83. "The best of all charity is that which is given to the relative that harbours enmity against you." [Ahmad, Sahih]

84. "The best of all charity is that you give it while you are healthy and desirous (of that money), hoping to become wealthy but fearing poverty. Don’t delay until you are about to breathe your last and then you say, ‘This is for ‘so and so’ and this is for ‘so and so’’, for indeed, it has already been written that ‘so and so’ would receive that." [abu Dawud, Sahih]

85. "The best of all charity is when the one with little strives to give; start with those you are responsible for." [Hakim, Sahih]

86. "The best charity is to provide water." [ibn Majah, Hasan]

87. "The best prayer after the obligatory ones is the prayer in the depth of the night, and the best fast after the month of Ramadan is the month of Allah, Muharram." [Muslim]

88. "The best prayer is the prayer of the man in his home except for the obligatory prayer." [an-Nasa’i, Sahih]

89. "The best prayer is that with the longest standing." [Muslim]

90. "The best of all prayers according to Allah is the Friday morning prayer in congregation." [ibn Nu‘aym, Sahih]

91. "The best fast is the fast of my brother Dawud; he would fast every alternate day and he would never flee (the battlefront) when the armies would meet." [at-Tirmidhi, Sahih]

92. "The best of all fasts after Ramadan is in the month that you call Muharram." [an-Nasa’i, Sahih]

93. "The best of all worship is supplication." (Hakim, Sahih]

94. "The best deed is the prayer in its right time and Jihad in the path of Allah." [al-Bayhaqi, Sahih]

95. "The best of the Qur’an is: 'Alhamdu lillahi Rabbil-‘Alamin". [Hakim, Sahih]

96. "The best of earnings is a blessed sale and that which a man earns with his hands." [Ahmad, Sahih]

97. "The best of the Believers is the most excellent of them in character." [ibn Majah, Sahih]

98. "The best of the Believers with respect to Islam is the one from whose hand and tongue the Muslims are safe; and the best of the Believers with respect to Iman are the most excellent of them in character; and the best of those who migrate is he who migrates from that which Allah the Most High has prohibited; and the best of Jihad is when one strives against his soul for the sake of Allah, the Mighty, the Magnificent." [at-Tabarani, Sahih]

99. "The best of mankind is the believer between two honourable persons." [at-Tabarani, Sahih]

100. "The best of all days in the world are the ten days (of Dhul Hijjah)." [Bazzar, Sahih]
Christianity EtcRe: The Duality Nature Of Jesus Christ by babs787(m): 8:48pm On Jun 04, 2008
@ Olaadegbu

I never wanted to reply but read your verses linked to duality nature of Jesus which I would provide answers to.


I have been telling you to put off those opaque goggles that prevents you from seeing what is obvious.  I know that you have become accustomed to your reality after a long time of wearing those glassess, however I will give you two verses from the Truth book and then pray that you will be able to see it.
Okay, let me have the verses



Matthew 3:16-17;17:5

16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Your above verse pushed me to ask you some questions:

1. What Spirirt of God are you referring to and is it in any way different or same as the 'comforter' you claimed Jesus said would be coming to replace him because Jesus sid if He did not go the comforter would not come and that if he leaves, the 'comforter' would come but here we read about the expected 'comforter' already with Jesus shocked?

2. Did the four gospellers record this event?

3. Did Jesus speak and call himself 'son'

4. What made you jump to conclusion that it was God speaking?

I have other questions to ask too but will leave them in order not to deviate from the topic.


If you can see it right there where the Father, the Holy Spirit and the Son are three distinct Persons in action, confirming the ministry of our Lord Jesus Christ and that we should hear Him.,
So, since you yourself believe that they are three distinct persons, why still tie to the doctrine of trinity?


Aja to ba fe sonu, ko ni gbo fere ode
Ronu wo pelu owe ti o pa yen. It fits you so much. Go to the link supplied and read for understanding anmd remove those your Baba Sala Googles grin



1 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart,

2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.
I think we should create another thread for the highlighted verse 2 where Jesus ws transfigured and you yourself would see the truth InSha God of the relationship with pagan gods.


3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.
Do you have any other concrete evidence or proof with regards to the above quote?


4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.
Same as above and please do you believe in the apocalypse of Peter?


Now let us read the verse below:

Matthew 9 v 9 : And as Jesus passed forth thence, he saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and he saith unto him follow me and he (Matthew) arose, and followed him (Jesus).

Did Matthew write this about himself?


5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
Do you have any proof that the voice is that of God? I you do supply me, I have rebuttal from your bible to butress my saying.


6 And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid.
Can Matthew be held responsible as the real author of the gospel of Matthew? Lest I forget, you should by now know that Matthew does not exist in Hebrew.

According to John 5:37, Jesus said that no one had ever seen God at anytime or ever heard his voice.

A christian once told me that Jesus was referring to a specific group of people, since he says 'you'. So if Jesus was addressing specific group of people, does that mean those not present whom he was not referring to have heard his voice? Does it mean that those Jews not present have heard God?


2 Peter 1:16-21  This was the Witness of Peter.

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16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.

17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.

19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
Do you believe in the apocalype of Peter and is this Petetr diffeent from the author of the apocalypse?


1 John 1:1-3  These witnessess are fresh from the source

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1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
How many heard or seen? Is this John same as his disciple? (Rebuttal coming affter your response)

2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us)
How many people saw it and who was he referring to as 'we have seen it'?


3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
Do we need to dig deep into the Gospel of John including 1st and 2nd John?


John 12:28-33  This is from the Master
Ok

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  28 Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.

29 The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him.

30 Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes.

31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

33 This he said, signifying what death he should die.
Do we expose Gospel of John further, the year it was compiled and who waas behind the compilation?


Have you still got your glassess on?
Sure brother and hope yours is still on because you are stylishly deviating from the main topic grin.

Lest I forget, some of your folks have questioned mu slims when we say that we believe in all prophets and they quickly jump to the use of the 'father' by some prophets as recorded in the bible. Please a very straight forward question for you, can someone be a son and at the same time be a servant? Or can Moses ffor example be  son and a servant at the same with regards to the biblical verses. Your response will prompt me into giving contradicting verses in relation to prophets calling God the father and we will also look if really these prophets wrote the books themselves. We will also look at the indepth meaning of the fsther being use in those premise.

Salam (Peace)
IslamRe: Is It "safe" For A Christian To Read The Qur'an? by babs787(m): 8:08pm On Jun 02, 2008
@Cayon


They ask you (O The Great Prophet) concerning alcoholic drink and gambling. Say: ‘In them is a great sin, and (some) benefits for men, but the sin of them is greater than their benefit’” [al-Baqarah 2:219]

So basically God is saying If sin is present and it is great, then it is forbidden. Undoubtedly this alcohol is harmful to the mind and body, and Allaah has forbidden everything that harms the body and mind, and saps the strength. Everything that is harmful to a person is not permitted

between, is drinking wine a sin?

here is a Bible scripture on alchohol

Numbers 6:3 He shall separate himself from wine and strong drink, and shall drink no vinegar of wine, or vinegar of strong drink, neither shall he drink any liquor of grapes, nor eat moist grapes, or dried.
What kind of half bake information is this? Why not grab the Qur'an and read for understanding rather than picking just a verse in which you lack understanding?

Qur'an 2 v 219:  "They question thee about alcoholic drink and games of chance; say: In both there is great sin and certain profits for man, yet the sin of them is greater than their usefulness."

Qur'an 4 v43:  "O ye who believe! Draw not near unto service of worship when ye are drunk, till ye know that which ye utter . . ."

Finally Qur'an 5 v 90-94): "O' you who believe! Intoxicants (all kinds of alcoholic drinks), gambling, Al-A nsab, and Al-Azlam (arrows for seeking luck or decision) are an abomination of Satan's handiwork So avoid (strictly all) that (abomination) in order that you may be successful. Satan wants only to excite enmity and hatred between you with intoxicants (alcoholic drinks) and gambling, and hinder you from the remembrance of God and from prayers. So will you not then abstain? And obey God and the Messenger, and beware (of even coming near to drinking, or gambling, or Al-Ansab, or Al-Azlam, etc.) and be afraid of God. Then if you turn away, you should know that it is Our Messenger's duty to convey (the Message) in the clearest way.

It will not pass unnoticed that in this last verse, the Qur'an includes alcoholic drinks and idolatry in the same category.

The Holy Prophet (saw) also prohibited taking of alcohol.The Prophet (saw) said in Sunan Ibn-I-Majah Volume 3, Book of Intoxicants, Chapter 30 Hadith No. 3371:"Alcohol is the mother of all evils and it is the most shameful of evils."

In Sunan Ibn-I-Majah Volume 3, Book of Intoxicants, Chapter 30 Hadith No. 3392:"Anything which intoxicates in a large quantity, is prohibited even in a small quantity."

Not only those who drink alcohol are cursed but also those who deal with them directly or indirectly are cursed by God.

According to Sunan Ibn-I-Majah Volume 3, Book of Intoxicants, Chapter 30 Hadith No. 3380.It was reported by Anas (may God be pleased with him), that Prophet The Great Prophet (pbuh) said:

"God's curse falls on ten groups of people who deal with alcohol. The one who distills it, the one for whom it has been distilled, the one who drinks it, the one who transports it, the one to who it has been brought, the one whom serves it, the one who sells it, the one who utilizes money from it, the one who buys it and the one who buys it for someone else."

Cayon, in the verse you quoted, the permissibility and non-permissibility of wine and gambling is not clarified. Soon after understanding the tone of discountenance in the verse, the highly ranked companions of the Holy Prophet sallallahu alaihe wasallam abstained from them. On the other hand, Great Ones in general were still involved in them and the Prophet sallallahu alaihe wasallam had not said anything that indicated their prohibition, until God revealed the following verse:

Qur'an 5 v 90: "O ye who believe! Intoxicants and Gambling, (Dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, Are an Abomination – Of Satan's handiwork; eschew such (abomination), That ye may prosper."

In this verse, the total prohibition of alcoholic drinks and gambling has been clearly revealed.

Also, the companion of the prophet obeyed the prohibition after the revelation of the last verse and the Holy Prophet sent out a caller to  proclaim:

"Behold, alcoholic drinks (intoxicants) have been made haraam."

Intoxicants and Arabs

Intoxicants were very popular among the Arabs. They were manufactured and imbedded almost in every home and to drink had, so to speak, become a mark of advancement in culture. As soon as the announcement was made, the people who were greatly addicted to it and who regarded it a virtue and sign of social and cultural eminence and who would spend lavishly in the state of drunkenness from which the poor and needy profited. These very same people now in a short span of time were ready to forsake and sever any ties they may have had in regards to alcohol which had, for years played a major role in their lives. Those who held goblets in their hands immediately threw them on the ground. Many others who were in the act of drinking, spat the contents out. Sounds of pitchers and jars being smashed up were soon audible from neighbouring houses. Wine was running to such an extent that the streets of Madinah were overflowing.

Hazrat Anas radiyallahu anhu, an eminent companion of the Prophet (SAW) narrates that some friends including Abu Ubayda ibn Jarrah, Abu Dujahna, Mu'az ibn Jabal and Sahl ibn Bayzah radiyallahu anhum had gathered at the house of Abu Talha. Alcohol was flowing and I was acting as the cup-bearer when suddenly the cry of the announcer reached our ears. None of us considered it necessary to go out and investigate the matter. Instead, the containers and jars were smashed to the ground and the wine thrown onto the streets of Madinah. After performing wudhu and ghusl we proceeded towards the Masjid where upon our arrival we found the blessed Prophet sallallahu alaihe wasallam reciting the aforesaid verse.

Hazrat Buraidah radiyallahu anhu also narrates a similar account wherein a group of Sahaabah were busy consuming liquor when the announcement was made. The words no sooner reached their ears that the cups were thrown to the ground. Others who were about to swallow the alcohol immediately spat it out, numerous barrels were also destroyed in the process.


May God lead you to the truth.
Christianity EtcRe: The Duality Nature Of Jesus Christ by babs787(m): 8:20pm On May 31, 2008
@Olaadegbu

That title goes to olabowale who is funnier than Mr. Bean. As for the link that I referred you to I actually quoted the actual response to save you the pain of searching for it and here you are complaining that I did not answer the question. Have you checked the link you supplied and see where it leads to? Eni da eeru ni eeru ma a nto God bless you
Do you have your response in the link you supplied?


Ma fi nu mi, mo mo je
. cheesy Go through the link again and you would read my well outlined response and that of Olabowale too. I gave you instances where early christians rejected the doctrine of trinity and where it never existed in dictiionary of religious knowledge and even went as far as giving you from Americana ecyclopedia. I went further giving you verses from your book where Jesus made it known that God sent him, He is greater than him,; Jesus worshipped him; one or two prophet performing miracle which Jesus never did; gave you verses from hebrew bible bible showing that God canot be a man; nailing the verses on alpha and Omega to the wall etc.

Brother, mo ni ife e igan and I wouldnt want you to die before realising the truth. Go to the link and read Olabowale and my rebuttal to what remain mysteries to christians and by honestly going through the link again you would read that I gave you verses from your book supporting my rejoinders. Lowe lowe la nra ifa aditi grin. You know the truth and it is better you realised the truth so that it would set you free. Mo wi temi fun e ;Dand do not say I did not tell you o grin. I am not interested in replying you since you couldnt profer answers to the questions on the fabricated doctrine of trinity but I leave you for my intelligent brother (Brother Olabowale) that has been doing justice to your posts and May Allah in his infinite Mercies grant him sound health and increases his knowledge but will come in when I read you giving biblical verses different interpretation from their real meaning grin

Maa Salam (Shalom) cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: The Duality Nature Of Jesus Christ by babs787(m): 8:13pm On May 30, 2008
@Olaadegbu


You must be a very funny chap grin. You are even funny than Mr. Bean cheesy.Honestly, I am not interested in this your threadbare arguments, dancing about the same axis and repeating what answers have been provided for; pretending as if no such have been offered but decided to reply you when I read your funny post where you posted link that has nothing to do with your response to me. Let me quickly go through the response you claimed to have provided.


Quote from: olabowale on Today at 01:47:53 AM
@Olaadegbu: I clicked on the Nairaland link that you gave above, to my surprise, it was MC Usman that was analysing Oneness of God. I am very convinced from his presentation, that he completely disagreed with your obvious mistake of saying 3 distinct and complete entities make up One God!


Below is the link I was referring to in response to babs787's question on this thread https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-68474.128.html:
Oga, Did you in any way responded to me in the link you supplied? Maybe you forgot putting your glasses while typing  cheesy. Check the link and show me where you replied me. In that link you supplied, you would only read response from Syrup, Olowotee and myself respectively.


Ai tete mole ole m'oloko
The proverb fits you no be small: aitete mole e, ole nmu oloko. grin



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In anticipation that you have put off your I'slamic spectacles through which you see your worldview I will proceed to try and answer your question.

The book of Revelation was transmitted from God the Father to God the Son, to the angel, to John, to the churches, to us (believers in Christ) Rev.1:1,11

Rev.1:8,17-18; 22:13; 2:8 The Alpha and Omega are the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet.  This is used of Jesus Christ in Revelation except in 21:6

The identity of the Person of our Lord Jesus Christ is revealed in Rev.1:17-18  He said:

"I am the first and the last:" "I am He that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore.  Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death."

In Revelation 22:13  Jesus Christ is again speaking here saying:

"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last"

If you have problems with the authorised version you can check out the following versions:

Today's New International version
New International version-UK;
Wycliffe New Testament;
New International Reader's Version;
Holman Christian Standard Bible;
New life Version;
Darby Translation;
Young's Literal Translation;
American Standard Version;
New Century Version;
New King James Version;
Contemporary English Version;
English Standard Version;
New Living Translation;
Amplified Bible;
New American Standard Bible;
New International Version etc

I should be the one accusing you of avoiding to answer the question I posed to you on the "By faith alone" thread
Brethren grin, check this link for a response to your quote above. Funny how you lifted from a thread where I provided answers and pretended as if you did not read my response shocked. Below is the link to your book of revelation and other issues on trinity:

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-68474.32.html


Stay blessed cheesy.
IslamRe: Muslims: What Did You Learn In Islam Recently? by babs787(m): 8:19pm On May 27, 2008
Living Islam Daily



The Prophet (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) said, 'Take benefit of five before five: your youth before your old age, your health before your sickness, your wealth before your poverty, your free-time before your preoccupation, and your life before your death.'
[al-Hakim, al-Baihaqi]

Indeed, we all, at some point in our lives, are reminded of the passage of time, It may be due to an affliction that has befallen us, a word we have read or an incident that we have witnessed. We literally feel the seconds ebbing away from our lives and we are filled with a sense of desperation. What have we achieved? What have we done with our lives?

We are reminded of our aspirations we had once had that have lain dormant, buried, while we are engrossed with building our lives in this dunya. We are reminded of how we wanted to be the true and successful servants of our Creator and we become sick with worry and shame. We see how we have not moved an inch closer to this goal.

We want to make amends , we KNOW we can do it.

And so we start all over again. We begin to piece together our ideas and resolutions. This time we will not forget and we will not fail, inshaa Allah. We will fast more, pray more, recite the Qur'an more, we will change the world and make it a better place.

We set out with promise and enthusiasm but as the months go by, our determination fizzles out and our good actions are forgotten. Our resolutions once again remain in the realm of good intentions, until the next time something prompts us into introspection.

How do we avoid this? How do we convert our good intentions to consistent actions?

I do not dare to say I have all the answers. I can only share what I have learnt in my own struggle with good intentions and resolutions. Here are some tips that I hope you will find useful in trying to live Islam daily:


[1] Purify your intentions and remember that you wish to seek the pleasure of Allah


Sincerity in all we do is a commandment of Allah (subhanahu wa ta`ala): "Say, 'Indeed my prayer, my rites of sacrifice, my living and my dying are for Allah, Lord of the worlds. No partner has He. And this I have been commanded, and I am the first (among you) of the Muslims.'"
[Surah al-An'aam, 6: 162,163]

He also says: "So worship Allah (alone) by doing religious deeds sincerely for Allah's sake only, (and not to show-off and not to set up rivals with Him in worship). Surely, the religion (i.e. the worship and the obedience) is for Allah only."
[Surah Az-Zumar 39:2-3]

Ibn Al-Qayyim (rahimahullah) said, "Deeds without sincerity are like a traveler who carries in his water-jug dirt. The carrying of it burdens him and it brings no benefit."


[2] Seek His help through du'a

Allah has told His Messenger (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) that He is close and answers the supplication of any servant who calls to Him. He said: "When My servants ask thee concerning Me, I am indeed close (to them), I respond to the prayer of every supplicant when he calleth on Me."
[Surah Al-Baqarah, 2: 186]

Indeed, when we are faced with distress, it is He whom we should turn to: "Or, who listens to the distressed (soul) when he calls on Him, and who relieves his suffering?"
[Surah An -Naml: 62]


[3] Do not procrastinate


It is easier for one to put off a goal until tomorrow so that one can rationalize not disciplining oneself today. How often have we said, "Inshaa Allah, I will make a change tomorrow" but never actually get around to doing it? One of the early scholars said, "Beware of procrastinating. It is the greatest of the soldiers of Satan." Do not make half-hearted promises - you are fooling no one but yourself. Carry out your resolutions with zeal and optimism.


[4] Take baby steps and set realistic goals In our zeal

We often chart ambitious plans only to be discouraged when we cannot sustain our efforts. Remember that no good deed is too small - the Prophet (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) was asked, "Which deed is most beloved to Allah?" He said, "The one that is continuous, even if it is little."
[Sahih al-Bukhari, Fath al-Bari 11:194].

Small changes work a great deal better than giant leaps, so don't bite off more than you can chew. Start out with small deeds and you that you can accomplish easily and consistently before moving on to more challenging ones. This will motivate you and make you feel more successful. Insha'Allah, you will find that over time, you will have made a big difference.


[5] Build a good support system


Ibn Hazm said, "Anyone who criticises you cares about your friendship. Anyone who makes light of your faults cares nothing about you." It is said that reminders benefit the believers, so surround yourselves with good companions who will give you sincere advice and who will support you with your resolutions. Avoid those who will chip away at your self-esteem or who will tempt you away from your resolutions. Bear in mind what 'Ali radhiallahu 'anhu said: "Mix with the noble people, you become one of them; and keep away from evil people to protect yourself from their evils."

[6] Track your progress and be consistent


Write down your goals - hang this list up on the wall, keep it in your notebook, fold it into your wallet or stick it in your locker. You can even keep a log or journal of how you are doing - start a weblog even! Be honest with yourself and recheck your goals. The idea is not to slacken. Indeed, when the Prophet (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) did something, he kept it up.
[Muslim].

Take a look at the hadith Qudsi in which Allah says: "… 'My slave keeps drawing nearer to me with naafil (supererogatory) deeds until I love him.'" [Sahih al-Bukhari].
The phrase maa yazaalu ["keeps (drawing near)"] gives the impression of continuity. The Prophet (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) also said, "Continue doing Hajj and 'Umrah."

[7] Avoid burnout


It is inevitable that we sometimes feel as if our iman has hit rock bottom or that we lack the spirit to continue in our striving. The Messenger of Allah (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) said, "Iman wears out in one's heart, just as the dress wears out (becomes thin). Therefore, ask Allah to renew iman in your hearts."
[at-Tabarani and Al-Hakim]

Continuing to do acts of worship and good deeds does not mean one exhausts oneself to breaking point. We continue with the obligatory acts. When we have the energy and inclination, we strive to do more and when we do not, we do as much as we can. The Messenger of Allah (salAllahu alayhi wasalam)said: "Religion is very easy and whoever overburdens himself in his religion will not be able to continue in that way. So you should not be extremists, but try to be near to perfection…"
[Sahih al-Bukhari]
According to another report, he said: "Be moderate, and you will reach what you want."
[Sahih al-Bukhari]

[8] Seek inspiration

The best sources of inspiration are in the mighty Qur'an, the Prophet (salAllahu alayhi wasalam), his companions, the pious predecessors and the scholars.

Look at Abu Musa al-Ash'ari. He used to apply himself so much in worship at the end of his life that he was told, "Why don't you slow down and be gentle with yourself?" He replied, "When the horses are released for a race and are close to the finish line, they give all the strength they have. What is left of my life is less than that." It is said that he maintained this level of devotion till he died.

Look at Amir ibn Abdullah who was once asked, "How can you tolerate being awake all night, and thirsty in the intense heat of the day?" He replied, "Is it anything more than postponing the food of the day to nighttime, and the sleep of the night to daytime? This is not a big matter." When the night came, he would say, "Remembrance of the heat of hellfire has taken sleepiness from me." And he would not sleep until dawn.

Look at Ar-Rabi' ibn Khuthaym. Abu Hayan related that his father said, "Ar-Rabi' ibn Khuthaym was crippled and used to be carried to the congregational salah. So people told him, "You have an excuse (for not coming)." He said, "I hear 'hayya 'alas-salah', the call to salah; so if you can come to it even by crawling, do so", paraphrasing a hadith.

[9] Do a variety of acts of worship

Allah in His Infinite Mercy has blessed us with a variety of acts of worship to do - some are physical such as prayer; some are financial such as zakat and sadaqah; some are spoken such as du'aa and dhikr.

Perhaps the wisdom behind this provision is that it addresses the different inclinations and abilities of the people. Some people may enjoy some kinds of worship more than others. Indeed, Allah has made gates of Paradise according to the different types of worship. According to a hadith narrated by Abu Hurairah (radhiallahu anhu) the Messenger of Allah (salAllahu alayhi wasalam)said: "Whoever spends on a pair for the sake of Allah will be called from the gates of Paradise , 'O slave of Allah, this is good.' Whoever is one of the people of prayer will be called from the gate of prayer. Whoever is one of the people of jihad will be called from the gate of jihad. Whoever is one of the people of fasting will be called from the gate of al-Rayyan. Whoever is one of the people of charity will be called from the gate of charity."
[Sahih al-Bukhari]

[10] Do not waste even a minute

As mentioned earlier, there are a variety of deeds one can do. There may be days when one is busy with chores, work or commitments to family and friends. This does not mean that one does not have time to incorporate one's resolution to live Islam daily. One can make dhikr while cooking, one can memorise a du'aa while waiting for the bus, one can listen to an Islamic lecture when driving home from work… the list goes on. The bottom line? Do what you can when you can.

May Allah give us steadfastness and may He give us the best in this world and the hereafter

Ameen
Christianity EtcRe: How Best Can You Describe The Holy Trinity/Godhead by babs787(m): 7:27pm On May 27, 2008
@Syrup

Okay, I take it on board. Thank you and warm regards.
Thanks and God bless
Christianity EtcRe: Re:The Only Saviour by babs787(m): 7:22pm On May 27, 2008
@May Kelly


John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that he gave his[b] one and only Son, [ Or his only begotten Son] [/b] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Na you sabi. Check my post 2015. Do not let case be like that of Hosea that says 'my people perish for lack of knowledge".
Christianity EtcRe: How Best Can You Describe The Holy Trinity/Godhead by babs787(m): 7:20pm On May 27, 2008
@Sheniqua (Babyosis)


Hope nothing for changing your id?



Quote from: sheniqua on Yesterday at 09:30:15 PM
My Lord!
How many times will you ask the same exact questions.
Is I'slam synonymous with mumurity?
I responded to her post and you can check for clarity. When will you stop being mischievous?
Christianity EtcRe: How Best Can You Describe The Holy Trinity/Godhead by babs787(m): 7:16pm On May 27, 2008
@Syrup

Again, your eagerness to argue is admirable - the only thing is that they are still hinged on pride and not humility. Like I said to Olabowale, it's not my disposition to argue endlessly where clear statements are made. To keep arguing against clear statements that Jesus Christ stated is the very ingredient that engenders DENIALS. Is it not amazing how quick a mus.lim is willing to keep DENYING things and yet he does not find this in my post? My approach is different - it is rather to bring the clear statements to bear upon you in very simple terms. Denying them doesn't hurt anyone else than the one who makes the denials - because one is left wondering what such a person really believes at the end of the day.



Quote from: sheniqua on Yesterday at 09:30:15 PM
My Lord!
How many times will you ask the same exact questions.
Is I'slam synonymous with mumurity?

This is why I have stated simply: repetition ad hominem does not present the discussant as having the ability to be humble enough to see reason.
Sister, I will stop responding to your rejoinders since you said that you have provided answers but I never see where you did that, I only responded to your post


Stay blessed.
Christianity EtcRe: How Best Can You Describe The Holy Trinity/Godhead by babs787(m): 9:24pm On May 26, 2008
@Syrup


The area of particular interest to me is the assumption highlighted, that "Just because Jesus stated it doesnt mean that all other prophets have not been same".

That is quite wrong, for the statements, life and work of Jesus are unique in every account.
Please how are his work unique?

Even when Jesus spoke in John 14:6, it is pretty obvious that He qualified His statement so definitively. He did not say that was "a life", but rather that He was "THE Life". So also His other statements: He is THE Light ("I am the light of the world", John 8:12).
Jesus said that 'I am the way, truth and life, no man cometh to the father except by me'. The verse was for the children of Israel because he was sent to them and if you read the book of John very well, he made the statement that he is the light as long as he is in the earth meaning that another person takes over when he leaves. He happened to be light for ONLY  the children of Israel and he had his limited to them. Their coming and going is like a relay where one athletes exchanges baton with another and it continues like that.


The last verse just quoted could not be claimed by any prophet, because it was unique statement:
Ok let us see.


(a) He is THE LIGHT
(b) He is The Light of THE WORLD
You are getting it all wrong. Jesus coult never have been for the whole mankind because he wasnt send to them. He had his work limited to the children of Israel. Every prophets were sent to their comunity which Jesus too did and trying to smuggle Jesus as being the comforter of the whole world would be a sheer dishonesty. Sister, Read your bible very well which I have done and still doing and you would realise that Jesus had hiswork limited when on earth.


Both in quality and scope, He was unique - that is why we don't find any other prophet making that claime. What they have not claimed for themselves as far as records and scriptures are concerned, you cannot make that claim for them!
So sister, what great thing Jesus did that no prophets ever did and one or two even did more that he ever did!


Secondly, you cannot attribute the unique status of Jesus' claim to someone else. When I read the The Great Book, I was surprised to find that Jesus is clearly mentioned there as THE Messiah - He is the only One the The Great Book recognizes as THE Messiah! Not even Muh.hammad could make that claim for himself - and that is a very definite point to note as to why you cannot make such suppositions for "all the prophets" out of hand.
Sister, you quote above amuse me. So gave him special attribute just because he was called Messiah and if you care we may shed more light on Messiah and see that non living things were even called messiah. The meaning of Messiah is 'anointed'. So I know one or two things with regards to Messiah. Because he sent with special work doesnt mean that he happened to very unique because his similtude was like that Adam  created from Dust. I wonder why you believe in the verse where he was called Messiah but ignored the other part of the chapter that spkke on his biirth, his mission etc!!


have followed that discussion quite well, and rather than go round in circles and boger into an argument, it would be helpful to simply answer one question: WHO is the Comforter?

It is quite disappointing that you could not produce simple clear evidence for your assumptions and instead went into whether the Comforter has been in existence or not - which is a very offmark query. It is not the "existence" we are after, but rather WHO is the Comforter. That question was answered, and He is the Holy Spirit (John 14:26).

Rather than pretend that this is another argument about His "existence", what have you said about WHO He is? Humility will be very helpful here - it is pride that is at the root of pretending not to have seen a clear statement and then begin to argue endlessly away from a topic. Dear sir, it is of no benefit to you to behave that way.
Now let us get it straight. Has the Holy Spirit been in existence or not?
Christianity EtcRe: The Duality Nature Of Jesus Christ by babs787(m): 9:06pm On May 26, 2008
@Olaadegbu


As long as you keep your opaque spectacles on which is Islamism you will not be able to see the light Who is Jesus Christ, the light of the world. My prayer for you is to convince you to take those spectacles off which has given you a distorted worldview and then you will be able to see the light of the glorious gospel, and the Holy Spirit will convict you of sin, of righteousness and of the judgment to come.
Brother, you know the truth and I pray it would set you free because our God is not an author of confusion, giving prophets different messages and if you do not prove all things, how would you know the truth and hold onto it. I have given you enought facts but I know it is God that delivers. We are here to just preach but the rest lies with God. We may take a horse to a stream but cannot force him to drink. I asked questions which seemed difficult for you and if you think that you cant not answer those questions because they are undeniable truth, wh not embrace the truth before its too late.
Christianity EtcRe: How Best Can You Describe The Holy Trinity/Godhead by babs787(m): 8:51pm On May 26, 2008
@Syrup

But haven't your own conjectures been settled in another thread? I can't remember where I once read it when the debate was sizzling, but I remember than pilgrim.1 soundly settled your conjectures about who the Comforter might be - the Holy Spirit. Why is it so attractive for you to keep repeating a question you have failed to address?
Sister, I asked plgrim a very straight forward and no response till this very moment and you do me proud me responding to my question. Now, you and Pilgrim claimed that the comforter was the holy spirit and I asked and I am still asking now, if the holy spirit happened to be the comforter, has it not been in existence or not because the comforter would be a new being and Holy spirit has been in existence since creation.


Meanwhile, asking for the name of the angel is like asking you to name every single angel mentioned in the Qur''an and Hadiths - have you been able to attempt that at all? And the names of the 124,000 prophets? Why do you try to point at others on issues you cannot resolve when presented to you?
Mu slims may not be able to name all the prophets but there is a verse which if you rwd would explain that to you. God made it known to us that some prophets were mentioned whie some were not mentioned.

Just curious at this repetitive attraction of yours.
Not a repetition but no response so far to my question on has the holy spirit been in existence or not?



May I extend an invitation to you persoanlly to drop your prejudices and read the Bible with an open heart. If I could read a copy of the The Great Book for myself, why is it such a feeling of discomfort, uncertainty and fear to pick the Bible up and read it for yourself?
Sister, to be frank and honest with you. I was like you before seeing the light. I have read and still reading the bible and I have some versions at home. There is nothing hidden there and I wish you could read and compare the gospels for a start and realise the truth.

Stay blessed
Christianity EtcRe: How Best Can You Describe The Holy Trinity/Godhead by babs787(m): 8:41pm On May 26, 2008
@Olaadegbu



It is interesting to see that your I'slamic spectacles distorts your vision of reality.  I realised that you tend to believe the gnostic gospels as true and doubt the synoptic gospels as counterfeit when it is actually the other way round.  Your "holy book" affirms some of the lies in the gnostic gospels that said that someone else died in place of Jesus Christ
Some spectacles can be dangerously deceptive to those who insist on seeing through them.

Looking through such spectacles you will see that you claim to believe all the prophets of the bible, even Jesus Christ.  But do you know that Jesus Christ made a powerful claim about Himself and said "I am The Way The Truth And The Life, No one cometh unto the Father but by Me" John 14:6
Brother, you need to shun pride, open your heart to the truth having been served same all these while. Go to the beginning o this thread and see for yourself.

Jesus could have made that statement but if you would listen for a while, he made that statement to the Jew then and the reason is that he was sent to them and all prophets happened to be the way leading their followers to God, the truth: telling the truth and people see them as true ambassador and light giving direction to those that wanted to know God because people see and get to God through them. (though other prophets might have not said but thats just the truth). Just because Jesus stated it doesnt mean that all other prophets have not been same.


If you truly believe Him as a Prophet I expect you to take those words seriously and do not tell me that those are not His words or that they have been distorted, do you really believe that God Almighty cannot keep His Words from being contaminated?
Scroll up and read.




In anticipation that you have put off your I'slamic spectacles through which you see your worldview I will proceed to try and answer your question.

The book of Revelation was transmitted from God the Father to Christ the Son, to the angel, to John, to the churches, to us (believers in Christ) Rev.1:1,11

Rev.1:8,17-18; 22:13; 2:8 The Alpha and Omega are the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet.  This is used of Jesus Christ in Revelation except in 21:6

The identity of the Person of our Lord Jesus Christ is revealed in Rev.1:17-18  He said:

"I am the first and the last:" "I am He that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore.  Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death."

In Revelation 22:13  Jesus Christ is again speaking here saying:

"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last"

You will find the same in most of the reliable versions  such as the followings:
Today's New International version
New International version-UK;
Wycliffe New Testament;
New International Reader's Version;
Holman Christian Standard Bible;
New life Version;
Darby Translation;
Young's Literal Translation;
American Standard Version;
New Century Version;
New King James Version;
Contemporary English Version;
English Standard Version;
New Living Translation;
Amplified Bible;
New American Standard Bible;
New International Version etc
I never wanted to reply you because I found you dodging my response to the bbo of revelation and posted same verse which have I have provided rebuttal to and if you care to read more, kindly go to this link.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-68474.32.html
IslamRe: Muslims: What Did You Learn In Islam Recently? by babs787(m): 2:37pm On May 24, 2008
Time is a sword, Strike a balance


"By time, verily man is at loss" so begins one of the shortest surah in the Qur'an. The majority of the mufassireen (commentators) are of the opinion that the word Asr refers to time. Allah takes oath by time to impress upon us the importance of time. Perhaps, for many of us, this is the period when we are most conscious of the precious nature of time, as we try to stretch every second while gearing toward the all important exams. At a time like this when our minds are most focused and yet most distracted, we have to stop and take a moment to reflect and take stock of our lives. We have to ask ourselves what our goals and priorities in life are, and most importantly how we are expending the commodity upon which Allah has taken an oath?

This article started with the first verse of surah al-Asr. But do we truly understand the implications of this surah and put it into practice in our lives? Perhaps, you may be thinking that such assertions are patronizing and condescending for whom in their right mind, living in this society is not aware of the value of time, when people have to resort to country hideouts to get a sense of their lives. But, precisely because we live in this society are we becoming lost in the quagmire of materialism? Whether we are aware or not it would not be incorrect to say that many of us suffer from a disease, it is a disease of delusion about time and lack of understanding of our priorities in life.

Allah created us for the sole purpose of doing his ibadah 'I have only created the jinn and the mankind except that they may worship Me. ' we were not created in vain: 'Did you think that we had created you without purpose, and that you would not be brought hack to us for account?' Indeed that is what our goal in life is, to seek the pleasure of Allah, attain salvation from the hellfire and a place in paradise. To achieve these, we have to make sure that the most precious gift Allah has given us, our life is utilized in the best possible manner, for our lives are only remarkable and we can only attain the position of the best of creation' when we serve Allah.

Hasan al Basri (rahimullah) writes whilst thinking of the oath of time, I saw a person selling ice and he was exclaiming, 'O people have mercy on a person whose merchandise is melting away'. He then concluded: 'Now I fully understand this oath'. The vendor's capital is ice, if he does not manage to sell it, it will melt away, thus suffering a loss. Likewise if one regards time as ones capital and life as a business, if it is allowed to pass without being utilized it is only a matter of time before we will lose our business. And if we invest that time solely for the dunya, then we have already lost.

Most of us consciously or unconsciously have a defected view of life and time. We tend to regard both as a vast expanse without end, where each day rolls into the next. This should not be the case, as many sayings of the Prophet indicate 'Every morning there is a shout, oh children Adam this is a new day, and it is a witness over your actions.' Each day is unique and an opportunity, not a continuum of the last. Whatever we do on that day will be closed forever, only to be opened on the Day of judgement. Abdullah ibn Mas'ud once said 'I do not regret about anything as I regret about the day in which the sun has set, as this day has been decreased from my life and in that day my actions cannot be increased'.

We are at an age when we are enjoying some of the best things in life; wealth, youth and time without the pressure of responsibilities, which our parents are shouldering. But such blessings will not go unquestioned. As the hadith of the Prophet (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) tells us: , on the Day of judgement a servant's feet will not move until he is asked about four thing; about his life and what he spent it on, his body and what he used it on and about his wealth from where did he earn it and what he spent it on: The substance of our answers to these questions is to be made now. 'Two blessings are such that many people are in deception about them.

The first is good health and the second is spare time' Each minute that goes we cannot get it back, each day that passes is gone. We have to invest the time of this life for the next life. The society we are living in is engrossed in the materialistic world and accumulating as much as possible be it power, fame or wealth. We Muslims are not exempt from this pursuit of the dunya. Our despicable position in the world is due to this very fact.

We may think that the position of the Muslim Ummah and its many problems are very far from us and not a thing that we can affect. But are we not in our own way running after this world. What are our conditions and state of mind when we have to sit our exams or we have an assignment to sub-nut? It is one of complete anxiety to the extent that we start abusing the rights of our body. We become engrossed in attaining that goal we forget what our real goal in life is. Some of us are even prepared to miss our salat in order to get such tasks done. I am not advocating that we don't spend time upon our studies or other duties. Far from it, what I am trying to inculcate is getting our priorities in life straight and truly valuing our time and what we do with it. Of course we must study and try our best, for a Muslim should never be one who undertakes things half-heartedly There is no contradiction between the two when we utilize our time properly.

If we look at the lives of the companions and our pious predecessors we understand how vigilant they were about their time. They were a people who were successful for they truly knew the precious nature of time as Imam Shafi'ee said:'I stayed with the people of tasawuf and learned two things from them. First is that they say time is like a sword if you don't cut with it, it will Cut you. Second is your self, if you don't keep it busy with right, it will make you busy with wrong.

Umar (radiAllahu anhu) said 'I hate to see people wasting time, whether in their dunya or for Akhira'. Employ your time wisely, do not waste it sitting in front of the T.V or playing computer games. It is very easy for us to fall into the tricks of shaytan and justify such actions as valid, 'we all need time to relax and give our minds a break!' Such activities rarely achieve anything apart from diverting our balance of time. Abu Huraira narrated:
The Prophet (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) said: Allah's saying 'The son of Adam hurts Me by abusing time, for I am Time; in My Hands are all things and I cause the revolution of night and day.’ There are much better and fruitful ways to relax if we look at the life of the Prophet and his companions. We do not want to-when we get to our Parents age-look back upon our youth with regret as time wasted.

'And it is not your wealth, nor your children that bring you nearer to Us (Allah), but only he (will please Us) who behaves and does righteous deeds. As for such, there will be twofold reward for what they did, and they will reside in the high dwellings in peace and security.'
We are blessed by Allah that we have Islam at a young age. If we endeavour with our lives now to attain the pleasure of Allah, perhaps we too can be one of the seven types of people who enjoy the shade of the Throne of Allah-on the day when there will be no other shade.

"In the name of Allah, the most Beneficent, the Most Merciful. By al-Asr. Verily! Man is in loss, except those who believe, and do righteous deeds, and recommend one another to the truth and exhort one another to patience."
Christianity EtcRe: Bible Led Me to Islam by babs787(m): 2:03pm On May 24, 2008
@Tayo-D




I'll respond to some of your questions due to limited time. I got to get some things done at the office before heading out.
Ok, thanks for that.


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It seems you still believe in this trinity of a thing when I provided rebuttal to a thread raised by Olaadegbu but never mind, I have few questions for you on duality of Jesus.

Why shouldn't I. Jesus believed it too: John 10:30 I and my Father are one.
Now start from verse 29 that says: My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

The above shows that God is greater than all including Jesus and the verse below explains further:


John 14 v 28: Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

Lastly, since you claimed that Jesus is God just because he said that he and God are one, kindly provide explain to the verse below:

John 17 v 20-22 "That the ALL may be made ONE. Like thou Father art in me, I in thee, that they may be ONE in us. I in them, they in me, that they may be perfect in ONE". 


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Did God need to punish himself before he could sav man?
The principle is clear in scripture: Hebrews 9:22 - And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.If you care, study hebrews to understand why it had to be Jesus.
Brother, you gave me the account of someone that never knew Jesus but gave contradicting account on the road to Damascus. Go through Numbers 23 v 19, 1 Samuel 15 v 29, Hosea 11 v 9 respectively and you would see that God can never be a man.


Numbers 23 v 19: 1-  "God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it?"


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If your Jesus is God, who did he pray to when he learnt that they wanted to kill him?
He prayed to God. He is both Deity and humanity. That was His humanity crying out to the Father. His Deity is the one that declares in John 8:58 - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Brother, you should have seen the truth in your threadbare argument . The Deity happened to be superior to Humanity huh?Since he happened to be both, does that mean the one in heaven is superior to that in the earth to the extent that the one in the earth cannot overide anything and cannot take decision without begging himself up! While on the cross too, he cried to himself and asked himself why he forsook him?? Brother think, the truth stands from falsehood. Who forsook him on the cross?


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Who did he tell that, 'my God, why has thou forsaken me?
This was in fulfilment of prophecy and is in no way an indication that He isn't Deity. His humanity again being emphasised at this point.
Prophecy my foot and please can I have that prophecy? Did he forsake himself?


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If Jesus is God, spirit is God etc, why does blasphemy against son of man has forgiveness but that of holy has none?
Because without accepting the testimony of the Spirit regarding the Son of Man, you are doomed. No one can receive the Jesus except through the work of the Holy Spirit.
Did you read my post or pretending? I asked you why is the sin against holy spirit considered a blasphemy but that of son a forgiving one since they are one and should be equal?

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Apart from the questions above, below are verses from your book showing that God is different from Jesus, infact higher than him.

I am equal with my wife even though I am in authority over her. That the Son and the Holy Spirit are subject to the Father only indicates the phenomenon of headship that we see in scriptures. of course I do not expect you to understand all these things.
In what way are you equal to your wife anmd in case you do not know, you and your wife are separate entitities? You married your wife to live together and be one and not two. The one here means in agreement and not taking the form of both. Looking at it vividly, you have your own role different from your wife and you have authority over her. She cannot control you but you can do that and so is the case of Jesus and God.

I gave you detailed verses which you havent replied and you may do at your spare time.

Stay blessed.
Christianity EtcRe: The Duality Nature Of Jesus Christ by babs787(m): 9:17pm On May 23, 2008
@Olaadegbu


You didnt provide explanation to the questions I raised on the thread you created on trinity but only to come and still accept trinity that has no basis.


@Olaadegbu, Cgift et al

Who did Jesus bow and worship and beg more than two times?
Who did he shout to on the cross to have forsaken him and why the 'forsaken' for what he came to do?
Christianity EtcRe: Christmas Should be Replaced! by babs787(m): 9:13pm On May 23, 2008
@May Kelly


Hi samba123, it is written that one has to be born again of water and of spirit only but once. Yes the assurance is that you will have everlasting life with JESUS CHRIST who have gone before.
Are you saying that one would be doomed by not being born again of water and spirit and could you please shed more light on that, preferably with verse(s) from your bible?
Christianity EtcRe: Bible Led Me to Islam by babs787(m): 9:11pm On May 23, 2008
@Tayo-D


I presume you are refering to Jesus Christ. Jesus the Christ is 100% God and 100% Man. God has no beginning but prepared a body for Himself which He took upon Himself in humility. Phillipians 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

God in His deity could not die but the man Jesus died and rose again. We see evidence of His humanity and deity throughout His lifetime. The man Jesus decalred "I thirst", but the Deity declares "Come unto me all ye that labour and I will give you rest." The man declares "thou will not leave my soul in hell", but the Deity declares "I am the resurrection and the life."

Like Paul declares in 1 Tim 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
It seems you still believe in this trinity of a thing when I provided rebuttal to a thread raised by Olaadegbu but never mind, I have few questions for you on duality of Jesus.


Did God need to punish himself before he could sav man?

If your Jesus is God, who did he pray to when he learnt that they wanted to kill him?

Who did he tell that, 'my God, why has thou forsaken me?

If Jesus is God, spirit is God etc, why does blasphemy against son of man has forgiveness but that of holy has none?

Apart from the questions above, below are verses from your book showing that God is different from Jesus, infact higher than him.


John 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me

John 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

John 8:26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.

John 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

Why did he say that God sent him. Can a sender still be the one being sent?


John 20:17 Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.

Do you have explanation for the above verse?


I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life. (John 5:24)"

Did he send himself?


Also:

John 14 v 28: "You heard me say, 'I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.

Please offer explanation to the verse below:

Hebrew 5:7 "During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission."
Christianity EtcRe: Re:The Only Saviour by babs787(m): 8:50pm On May 23, 2008
@May Kelly

babs787 , why are you full of confusion. the message is simple;

Christ is the only begotten son of God.
I have told you to read your bible very well before discussing with Babs. There is no other gospellers that says Jesus is the only begotten son. If you go to the epistle of John too, you would see the same begotten and if Jesus happens to be the only begotten son, how come

Psalm 2 v 7 where God said to David:
"Thou art my son: this day have I begotten thee."

Also read 2nd Samuel 7v14, I Chronicles 22v 10 and Jeremiah 31v 9:

So who is the first born and could Jesus have been the only begotten son?


The only way to the Father, to the ALLAH for my Christian brethrens, to the God Almighty.
Woe to them that reject the Son of God,
You still goofed here. If Jesus happens to be the only to the Father, why did he tell someone that that he would live for observing the commandments and why not tell him point blank that he would not gain paradise if he did not accept him (Jesus) as Lord and personal saviour?
Read Luke 10 v 25-28.

Also in the gospel of Matthew, a man walked up to Jesus and asked him what to do to gain paradise and Jesus told him to keep the commandment and the commandment Jesus mentioned here happened to be the one given to Moses (Matthew 19 v 16-17).

So sister, accept Is lam before its too late and stop running away from the truth.

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