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We cannot take out how we appear from christianity. The very essence of christ coming is for differentiation. We cant look like Rap stars or prostitutes.

We must be modest 100%

Not every way is right. He says I am the way the truth and the life.

No man cometh to the father except by christ.

That is where I originate from may soon go there with the Gospel.

I thought that we should never speak against anyone that calls him self a man of GOD?


Hmmm

The soul of the son and the father are mine saith the lord of Host the soul that sinneth shall die pastor or no pastor.

The death here talks being cut of from God. He may still have the gift and authority over people. SATAN HAS THE SAME THING HE SATAN still has

1) AUTHORITY OVER DEVILS
2) HE HAS HIS GIFTING ( ESPECIALLY IN MUSIC)

yes if a man of God says A and its A1 He has Lied and the OLD TESTATMENT THEY QUOTE FROM says that the prophet must Die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did you know why the Children of Isreal Backslided?

They were fascinated at the Dancing and the worship of the Demon Houses of Worship.

You think the worship of BAAL MOLOCH AND ASTEROTH was less Exciting or less attractive to the Children of Isreal?

I did not say you cannot Dance!!!!!!!

But the Dance of the day that we see is not what David did. The Jews Sway that is how they Dance!

If you go to the eastern Religion it is different.


The Worship of Baal is characterized by DRUMMING DANCING AND THE PRIEST HAVING SEX AND THE THROWING OF THE BABY INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE FIRE ALSO IN MOLOCH or MELECH WORSHIP.


THE TRINITY OF THE DEMONIC WORSHIP

ASHTEROTH: THE WORSHIP OF A WOMAN
BAAL: THE WORSHIP MATERIAL AUTHORITY
MOLOCH: WORSHIP OF POSITION AND POWER

The CHILDREN OF ISREAL WORSHIPPED WITH GREAT SOLEMNITY . EVEN WHEN THEY CALL THE ONE OF GODS NAME CALLED THE tetragrammeton they had to Whisper it.

The worship of GOD is in Silence and Sobriety.

The Church has lost its morality and that is why the Devil is roaring in the Church. The river of the Blood of Jesus is wasting. Satan has made a great feast of the soul of men.

The only reason why he is winning is that the gospel is watered down. It is Activity instead of Holy ghost. People that are called by his name are not working perfect. The Prosperity message is overemphasized. You will see people that will say so should we be poor so that we can please God.

John Wesley was a University don He was rich but was poor He dinned with the Mighty. He built Churches he built Orphanages But above all he was disciplined HOLY MAN. When he Died he had 6 pounds a cloak etc.

People are searching for money they seek God because of Money and God is aware of this. The Church is a place where we now have an army of Evil men growing.

We can only go on our knees and preach the hard gospel.

Isaiah 5:18
Woe unto them that draw iniquity with cords of vanity, and sin as it were with a cart rope:

@Bigfred

You have said nothing my Brother. Others have thrown harder stones at me you are not the 1st and will not be the last.

If you prove to me I will withdraw.

If I quote the Scripture I may only harden your heart anyway this is not important.

If Dancing was that important Why did not Jesus Expound It?

Englishman

The authority is from Scripture not the Culture. All culture is subject to Scripture. My culture your Culture is subject to The word and command of God


Selah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLV6oYHZ2bE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPw89UwTA9Q&NR=1

It depends what type of Anointing you are talking about. Some of the people you are talking of have Demonic anointing.

I. PERSECUTION BEGINS
A. At first the church flourished as a Jewish sect
1. Act 18:2, things tightened under Claudius
a. Seutonius records this persecution
b. Rome always antagonistic to Jews
2. The Church felt some but not much of this anti-semitism
B. Paul was in Corinth at this time

II. NERO ASCENDS TO THE THRONE
A. Claudius reigned in Rome during most of the early church
B. Nero's mother got Claudius to kill his wife and marry her
C. Nero's mother got Claudius to adopt Nero as heir to throne
D. Nero's mother poisoned Claudius
E. Nero ascended to the throne at age 16-17, about 58-59 A.D.
1. Paul in Ceasarea in 2 year imprisonment now
2. Nero the teen-age paranoid was the Ceasar Paul asked to appear before
F. By 59 A.D. Nero had his mother and step-brother killed
G. Tradition says that the day Paul landed in Rome was the day that Nero killed his mother

III. NERO'S CHARACTER
A. Frank C Bourne's, A History Of The Romans, reveals Nero's character:

"The crimes of Nero's reign were infamous and patent. They were the more dreadful because Nero himself was a physical and moral coward. His adoptive brother Britannicus was poisoned early in the reign because he might prove a rival. His mother's ambition and her disapproval of his unstatesman-like devotion to the arts and to his mistresses caused him to have her murdered in 59 A.D." (p. 393)

IV. ROME NOT HOSTILE TO CHRISTIANS YET
A. Acts 28:3O-31 Paul free to work and teach 2 years in his hired house
B. Paul probably faced Nero in a minor ceremony since he appealed to see him

V. WHY BOOK OF ACTS HAS NO APPARENT ENDING
A. No salutation at the end of the book
B. Possibly more was to have been added
C. Paul was freed and traveled for 7 more years
D. Romans 15:24, Paul intended to go to Spain
E. Traditions say that he went to Spain and Britain
F. Paul's later travels may be included in the book
G. Possibly God left the book open on purpose
1. The Acts of other different eras may be added later
2. Possibly material or quotes from events we will discuss in this class will go into a continuing book of Acts

VI. ROME EXPERIENCED A TERRIBLE FIRE
A. 64 A.D. a monumental year for the church
B. Rome caught on fire
C. Nero 2O-3O miles away when it started
D. 1O of Rome's 14 precincts burned
E. The fire was a terrible tragedy:

Weigall writes in the book Nero:

"For six days the city blazed; and then, when the catastrophe was thought to be over, the flames broke out again and continued their destruction for three days more, During the blaze panic took hold of the citizens, and during the first days of the blaze the confusion was appalling. The screams of the women and children, the cries and shouts of the men were incessant; and the noise and smoke, the crashing of buildings, and the heat and glare of the leaping flames, bereft the people of their senses. Distractedly they ran to and fro, often finding themselves hemmed in when they had waited too long in helping the aged or infirm to escape, or in salvaging their goods. In the sudden panics and rushes which occurred as street after street was attacked, scores of people were trampled underfoot or suffocated; scores more were burnt to death as they attempted to rescue their friends or relations or to save their belongings; and it is said that many went mad and flung themselves into the flames which had destroyed all they loved or possessed, or they stood dumb and motionless while their retreat was cut off. To add to this confusion, thieves were soon at work, assaulting and robbing the householders who were carrying their treasures into the streets." (p. 28O)

VII. NERO BLAMED CHRISTIANS FOR THE FIRE
A. Christians may have thought this was the end of the world
B. God's church probably knew Rome was the 4th Beast
C. The church teaching was that the world was to end by fire
D. Rome knew the Christian teaching about the end
E. They also knew that Christians taught against the Roman gods
F. The fact that Christians did not help put out the fire helped move public sentiment against them.
Weigall relates the Christian sentiment over the fire on pages 295-296 in his book, Nero:

"Also, it was reported that during the blaze, when asked by their distracted fellowmen if, then they were glad to see Rome burn, they had replied that this was heaven's fiery vengeance for which they were waiting, nor would they raise a hand to extinguish the flames. The Lord's immediate return, in actual fact, was the main spring of their faith, the Second Coming being the supreme event which the elect were hourly expecting; and so great a disaster could not have been thought to be anything but the beginning of this tremendous advent. They thought Jesus was coming! 'The heavens would open now at any moment, and they would see Him riding upon the fiery clouds'"

VIII. NERO BEGAN A PERSECUTION OF THE CHURCH AS A RESULT
A. Tacitus' account of the persecution is as follows:

"First were arraigned those who confessed, then on their information a vast multitude were convicted, not so much on the charge of arson as for their hatred of the human race. Their deaths were made more cruel by the mockery that accompanied them. Some were covered with the skins of wild beasts and torn to pieces by dogs; others perished on the cross (by crucifixion) or (others were burned) in the flames; and (yet) others again were (covered with tar and) were burnt after sunset as torches to light up the darkness, Nero himself granted his gardens for the show, and gave an exhibition in the circus, and dressed as a charioteer, , drove his chariot himself" (Annals XV, 44, 6)

B. The persecution was so bad that even the Romans felt pity
1. Tacitus continues:

'Thus, guilt and deserving the severest punishment as they were, they were yet pitied, as they seemed to be put to death, not for the benefit of the State, but to gratify the cruelty of an individual." (Annals XV, 44, 7)

2. Ramsey writes in The Church In The Roman Empire:

", As Tacitus emphatically says, and as Pliny afterwards attests, the judgment of the mob on the origin of the fire was not permanently blinded: Nero was the real culprit and not these miserable victims." (p. 235)

IX. THE FALL OF JERUSALEM TOOK PLACE NEXT
A. Two years later in 66 A.D. the Jews revolted
1. Caesar required them to worship him as a god
2. Priests led a revolt
B. Nero sent his best general, Vespasian
C. Jews sent their best general, Joseph
1. Jews could not fend them off
2. Joseph captured
3. Joseph surrendered to him
D. Joseph told Vespasian that he had had a vision from God and that Vespasian would become Ceasar
E. Vespasian gave Joseph a pension and he spent the rest of his life writing a history of the Jewish people
F. Joseph took the Roman name "Flavius Josephus"
1. His works are Wars Of The Jews and Antiquities Of the Jews.
2. Every serious Bible student should have this work
G. In 68-69 Nero committed suicide.
1. Vespatian returned to Rome and became Ceasar
2. He left his son Titus in charge of the armies
3. Titus finally took Jerusalem
H. Josephus tells of how the Jews were warned to flee in his book, Wars Of The Jews:

"I suppose the account of it would seem to be a fable, were it not related by those that saw it, and were not the events that followed it of so considerable a nature as to deserve such signals; for, before sun-setting, chariots and troops of soldiers in their armor were seen running about among the clouds, and surrounding cities. Moreover, at that feast which we call Pentecost, as the priests were going by night into the inner [court of the] temple, as their custom was, to perform their sacred ministrations, they said that, in the first place, they felt a quaking, and heard a great noise, and after that they heard a sound as of a great multitude, saying, 'let us remove hence'" (Book. 6, ch.5, par. 3)

I. Only one group of people understood this sign
a. Luke 21:2O-21 This was a dual prophecy
b. The Christians fled Jerusalem

In The History of the Primitive Church, the author writes:

"Before the siege, the Christians left the city: 'By a prophecy which had been revealed to the leaders of the Church of Jerusalem, the faithful were admonished to leave the city before the war, and to go and live in a town in Perea named Pella; they accordingly withdrew there, and thus the metropolis of the Jews and all the land of Judea was completely abandoned by the saints.'" (p. 3O6)

J. It was difficult to flee at this time and to do so would require God's miraculous intervention. S.G.F. Brandon writes in The Fall Of Jerusalem and The Christian Church:

[The Christians would have had to] ", pass unmolested through a considerable tract of insurgent country, patrolled as it was undoubtedly at such a time by bands of nationalist troops, " [They would have to have] ", succeeded in eluding the attention of their zealous countrymen and traveled safely, with some proportion of their goods, through territory now held by the Romans and probably still carefully patrolled." (p. 171)

X. THE CHRISTIANS IN PELLA WERE CALLED NAZARENES
A. Acts 24:5 - the term was first used because Jesus was from Nazareth
B. The Hebrew name for Nazareth was "Netzer" and means branch or germ
C. Eventually the term came to mean a "despised one"
D. These people existed until the late 4th century. The Encyclopedia Britannica 11th edition describes these people as:

", an obscure Jewish-Christian sect, existing at the time of Epiphanius (A.D. 37O) in Coele-Syria, Decapolis (Pella) and Basanitis (Cocabe). , they dated their settlement in Pella from the time of the flight of the Jewish Christians from Jerusalem, immediately before the siege in A.D. 7O, " They are characterized as "neither more nor less than Jew, pure and simple, but adds that they recognized the new covenant as well as the old, and believed in the resurrection and in the one God and His Son Jesus Christ, Jerome says that they believed in Christ the Son of God, born of the Virgin Mary, who suffered under Pontius Pilate and rose again, but adds that desiring to be both Jews and Christians, they are neither the one nor the other." (p. 319)

The History of Ring Wearing is for Identifying Slavery.

You have not told me why they should not wear it. I can hear a message without seeing him why should he wear a ring in the first place is the question.

I have my own view of it based from the bible.

@big fred

I like when we bring out our sword we only sharpen it for use on Satan.


2 Samuel 6
13And it was so, that when they that bare the ark of the LORD had gone six paces, he sacrificed oxen and fatlings.

14And David danced before the LORD with all his might; and David was girded with a linen ephod.

15So David and all the house of Israel brought up the ark of the LORD with shouting, and with the sound of the trumpet.

16And as the ark of the LORD came into the city of David, Michal Saul's daughter looked through a window, and saw king David leaping and dancing before the LORD; and she despised him in her heart.


Notice that it was after a deed that he danced BEFORE THE LORD. It even described how he danced.

Your MODERN DAY DANCE IS NOT ANYWHERE WHAT WE HAVE NOW.

if you are ready you need to Confess your sins and FORSAKE THEM and JOIN THE MORAL ARMY OF GOD to wage war against satan.

yeah i am back.

and I say you cant have all the dance in the world in a church!

Which type will you pick ?

Jews I told you Swayed if you look at the wailing wall you will see what I am saying.

Those who know me know I don't do insults. If I am a fool please enlighten me. I am not disturbed about calling of names Jesus my God in whom Mary worshiped when she was on earth called Peter Satan.


Use your time to tell me the Mary that appears is not a Demon. If you can prove to me it is Mary the Physical mother of Jesus. I will withdraw all i have said and apologize. If not I will not do so.

My brother CGift

I am not happy doing this but I have to do it.

If Swaying is your Modern day dance then please tell me what would i be bordered about?

It is because the spirit has left the Church that is why other activities have come in. We select an choose what we want from the OLD TESTAMENT.

@bigfred

DAVID DANCED NAKED WHERE? IS IT ELECTRIC DANCE?

ANYWAY I WILL BE BACK IN 20mins

I am not bothered in what people believe but in what the bible preaches, no lowering the standard brethren.

If you go back to history I know of what catholicism did to some of the true soldiers of Christ and some civilians they did not dialogue Then If not the Lord had broken the POWER OF ROME THEY WILL STILL BE IN PERSECUTION OF CHRISTIANS CALLING THEM HERETICS. I say they worship the demon called the Queen of Heaven.

She is the old Dragon trying to resurface from the pit of Hell.

my brother be not deceived No man can measure holiness and A man that says he is holy than anyone is proud and is already living in hell.

In ancient times, as throughout many countries today, a person's social rank could be determined by his dress. Similarly, dress is a significant measurement of Christian conduct and practice. Christians can often by identified as such by their outward appearance.

Our people predicate their practices and beliefs upon the Bible. In baptism, we practice immersion in the name of Jesus as the apostles did. We teach and preach the baptism of the Holy Spirit as a definite experience evidenced by speaking with other tongues as the Spirit gives utterance.

Since we adhere as carefully and closely to the Scriptures as possible in matters pertaining to salvation, we also measure the standards of Christian practicalities such as clothing, by the same rule.

Moreover, the Scriptures teach a great difference between femininity and masculinity as to dress. "The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God" (Deuteronomy 22:5).

The desire to emulate men in dress has seriously affected the fine and noble characteristics of womanhood. Often it takes a second glance to determine the sex of a woman today, due to the distorted and strange garb she wears and the close proximity of her attire to that of a man. The Scriptures call this practice an abomination unto God, or something God hates.



THERE IS MORAL LAW

WE ARE TO OBEY OUR PARENTS IN CHRIST

@Cgift

We are not living by the law. Yes that is true. But we are under the grace of Christ. But should we then sin that grace may abound ? God forbid.

We have been called to orderliness because we are redeemed by an excellent spirit. A woman shall not wear the clothing of a man PERIOD.

A child Shall not wear an apparel not fit for him. Do you know that there are Men that dress up as women? is that a style?

The place you quoted is mentioned "SORT"

You can not wear your silk on your cloak.

Any this does not mean one is saved.

Bigfred

Please what type of dance did David dance please quote the place.

If you want to know how the Jews dance Go to the Jews Synagogue. I have already Mentioned that they SWAY. If God is a god of confusion then if all of us in Church most dance there must be not format to dance.

Do you know how many Dance are in the world?

We don't have dance for Christianity.

But please let me state this does not Imply we are followers of him.

Smile4kenn


Yes the Mary that appears in the sky is a demon disguised as a woman. You need to read the bible so that you can set your soul free. The other religions worship the moon god, this is another form Idol Worship.

The good news is that the real Mary is in heaven with the Lord and other saints

The appearance of "mary" is a demon this is an aspect of The Worship of Ashteorth

They both worship a demon called the Queen of heaven. The demon possessed clergy will only spew out more demon culture.

The evil congregation of the worship of the queen of heaven in all religions are being strengthened in this end days.

Remember that Satan told Eve that She will be as God?