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The Hymn is still the best and only spirit filled form of worship. The others are very condescending

The first being that made Clothes was God. God Showed the way. Read Genesis after the fall

I don't have a point. Jesus Has a point.

The Issue is do we are African have that type of hair? If it is bad for the Men then it is also bad for the women. No where in the bible said we should look like white people.

Be ready for hell fire to burn from eternity to eternity without any iota of the mercy of God.

This man called Pastor Chris is a Pointillist preacher. You must have the discernment of the Spirits by the word.

@ Infourmer
You must Judge all things.

Hell is waiting for all this false preachers if they don't repent.

True Soldiers of God there is war. open your eyes the war is great and it has started from the Sanctuary. Woe unto you false prophet you are sending men to hell. You neither enter heaven and allow others therein.


You have searched the whole world for a proselyte and you make him worse than yourself.

Isaiah 28

6And for a spirit of judgment to him that sitteth in judgment, and for strength to them that turn the battle to the gate.

7But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.

8For all tables are full of vomit and filthiness, so that there is no place clean.

9Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

10For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

11For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.

12To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.

13But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

14Wherefore hear the word of the LORD, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem.

15Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:

16Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.

17Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.

18And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.

19From the time that it goeth forth it shall take you: for morning by morning shall it pass over, by day and by night: and it shall be a vexation only to understand the report.

20For the bed is shorter than that a man can stretch himself on it: and the covering narrower than that he can wrap himself in it.

21For the LORD shall rise up as in mount Perazim, he shall be wroth as in the valley of Gibeon, that he may do his work, his strange work; and bring to pass his act, his strange act.

22Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands be made strong: for I have heard from the Lord GOD of hosts a consumption, even determined upon the whole earth.

23Give ye ear, and hear my voice; hearken, and hear my speech.

24Doth the plowman plow all day to sow? doth he open and break the clods of his ground?

25When he hath made plain the face thereof, doth he not cast abroad the fitches, and scatter the cummin, and cast in the principal wheat and the appointed barley and the rie in their place?

26For his God doth instruct him to discretion, and doth teach him.

27For the fitches are not threshed with a threshing instrument, neither is a cart wheel turned about upon the cummin; but the fitches are beaten out with a staff, and the cummin with a rod.

28Bread corn is bruised; because he will not ever be threshing it, nor break it with the wheel of his cart, nor bruise it with his horsemen.

29This also cometh forth from the LORD of hosts, which is wonderful in counsel, and excellent in working.

He made an open show on the Cross. no where else.

Very Good!


Now I will ask you

Did Enoch go to hell?

Did Elijah go to hell?

I am waiting.

@donnie

If you are Iron you shall be sharpened. For iron Sharpeneth Iron.

Now the old man is sin nature and nothing else.

Rom 8 v

10And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

11But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

12Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

13For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

14For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

15For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.


When jesus enters a man he is relatively dead to world. His desires have been mortified.

@donnie

Not the faith that says Jesus went to hell and he Took on the Nature of SATAN The old dragon.

If Jesus was in hell where was Satan?

This is the doctrine of Lucifer that he has sent to his satanic Church.

Psalm 16:9 Therefore my heart is glad, and my glory rejoiceth: my flesh also shall rest in hope. 10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

This was talking to David not Jesus. If it was fulfilled it would have been confirmed in the New testament. The father of false doctrine is Satan. I was defending this doctrine that Jesus went to hell in some thread ago but just mentioned it because I looked at the scripture but there was no one to support this doctrine.

I am no greater than the word of the most high God. This doctrine is a evil one. This doctrine means that all of us must worship Satan in part so that we can be like Christ.

Donnie

You will rather seek an opportunity to Give?

Hmm this is the seed faith theory.

Ok do you know the theory of the FAILED HARVEST?

Never before have we needed men of God in the pulpit as in these days. We've outsinned Sodom and Gomorrah 25 years ago already. God said, if you could break my covenant with the night and day, then my covenant with David can be broken. The first part has been fulfilled in Jesus. In the second part, God promises that He will never lack ministers (Levites) to minister before Him. In spite of all those who are quitting the ministry, God is still raising up His Levitical Priesthood. There are two streams, 2 concurrent types of priesthoods. Ezekiel prophesied that in the last days there'll be two kinds of congregations, preachers and ministers. There will be those who minister unto God. In Ez 40-44, Ezekiel has the vision of a great temple that was to be built. That is not a physical temple, because it stretches over lands and seas and mountains. He is talking about the church of the last days. He sees the church as having no boundaries. And the glory of the Lord is coming down on that house/temple. But Ezekiel saw a strange, horrifying sight. Despite the glory, a rebellious priesthood came forth. The Levitical priesthood were to guard and cleanse the gates of the tabernacle. Nothing evil was to be allowed into the temple.

[b]"A popular evangelist reaches your emotions. A true prophet reaches your conscience."


"The last words of Jesus to the church (in Revelation) were ?Repent!'"


"A true shepherd leads the way. He does not merely point the way."


"You never have to advertise a fire. Everyone comes running when there's a fire. Likewise, if your church is on fire, you will not have to advertise it. The community will already know it."


"Your doctrine can be as straight as a gun barrel-and just as empty!"


"John the Baptist never performed any miracles. Yet, he was greater than any of the Old Testament prophets."


"I doubt that more than two percent of professing Christians in the United States are truly born again."


"Our God is a consuming fire. He consumes pride, lust, materialism, and other sin."


"There are only two kinds of persons: those dead in sin and those dead to sin."


[Concerning the darkness that has enveloped most of Christendom:] "When you're sitting in a dark room, you can either sit and curse the darknes-or you can light a candle."[/b]


"Children can tell you what Channel 7 says, but not what Matthew 7 says."


"Some women will spend thirty minutes to an hour preparing for church externally (putting on special clothes and makeup, etc.). What would happen if we all spent the same amount of time preparing internally for church?with prayer and meditation?"


"Maturity comes from obedience, not necessarily from age."


"What good does it do to speak in tongues on Sunday if you have been using your tongue during the week to curse and gossip?"


"Would we send our daughters off to have sex if it would benefit our country? Yet, we send our sons off to kill when we think it would benefit our country!"


"The only time you can really say that Christ is all I need,' is when Christ is all you have."


"The Bible is either absolute, or it's obsolete."


"Why do we expect to be better treated in this world than Jesus was?"


"Today's church wants to be raptured from responsibility."


"Testimonies are wonderful. But, so often our lives don't fit our testimonies."


[Concerning one of the new "movements" in the church that was causing a stir among Christians:] "There's also a stir when the circus comes to town."


"My main ambition in life is to be on the Devil's most wanted list."


"You can't develop character by reading books. You develop it from conflict."


"When there's something in the Bible that churches don't like, they call it: legalism.'"


"We can't serve God by proxy."


"We must do what we can do for God, before He will give us the power to do what we can't do."


"There's a difference between changing your opinion, and changing your lifestyle."

[b]
"Our seminaries today are turning out dead men."


"How can you pull down strongholds of Satan if you don't even have the strength to turn off your TV?"


"Everyone recognizes that Stephen was Spirit-filled when he was performing wonders. Yet, he was just as Spirit-filled when he was being stoned to death."


"If a Christian is not having tribulation in the world, there's something wrong!"


[Concerning the fixation that today's church has with numbers, with growth at any price:] "The church has paid a terrible price for statistics!"


"Any method of evangelism will work, if God is in it."


"Church unity comes from corporate humility."


"You can have all of your doctrines right, yet still not have the presence of God."


"Many pastors criticize me for taking the Gospel so seriously. But do they really think that on Judgment Day, Christ will chastise me, saying, 'Leonard, you took Me too seriously?"


"If Jesus had preached the same message that ministers preach today, He would never have been crucified."


"You can know a lot about the atonement, and yet receive no benefit from it."


"If the whole church goes off into deception, that will in no way excuse us for not following Christ." [/b]

Watch all the men with the Eye of scripture.

I have listened to pastor Chris and some other preachers and I have some problems with their doctrine. They quote one verse or portion of the bible and they make a doctrine out of it.

This is very dangerous.

Horus

you see you don't know what you are re quoting.

The truth is that the Christians came into Africa by Egypt. There are Churches that have been there since 2000 years an example are in Ethiopia we have the Ethiopian Eunuch that Philip preached to and was converted.

We know that just recently that Ethiopia celebrated their 2000 years so please Jesus is the God of the Africans. We are a backsliden people and we are much loved by God that is the reason why we have been beaten with many stripes by God, for whom he loves he chastises.

@pilgrim

I will call a spade a spade and not a big spoon.

The man is possessed with a false spirit. The appearance of demons in the heavens for there tradition is not in the bible.

We are told in the bible to mark them that cause division. We are also told to flee all appearance of evil.

The man is the agent of Satan either knowing or unknowingly. He need repentance like every sinner.

As preacher in those days in Nigeria I never receive any gift even when I was given i refused it.

I say the Pope is a man that is possessed another spirit other than the spirit of the Most high God

@Enigma

I have posted all about this people and their doctrines begins to show up in this part of our world.

The preachers you have mentioned I have said it and say it again that this people are false prophets. Their belly is the way of Hell.

You need to have great discernment to know outrightly that this MOGs are the priest of the altar of Satan KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY just read bellow.

THE CHURCH OF SATAN PREACHES THAT SATAN IS GOOD AND JESUS IS EVIL (Good and evil theory). IF WE AGREE THAT JESUS TOOK THE NATURE OF SATAN THIS MEANS JESUS CAME TO USURP SATAN'S AUTHORITY. SHOWING THAT JESUS IS THE EVIL ONE HERE. SO SATAN RULES THE WORLD AND THERE WAS PEACE IN THE WORLD UNTIL JESUS CAME TO USURP THE AUTHORITY OF SATAN AND CAUSE THE WORLD INTO SO MANY RELIGIOUS TROUBLE.


SATANIST CAN CLAIM THAT JESUS WAS THE ONE THAT BROUGHT ENMITY BETWEEN MAN AND SATAN THAT THERE PEACE BEFORE JESUS CAME IN THE PICTURE. HE WILL QUOTE THE BELOW VERSE
Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.


THE SATANIST CAN EVEN QUOTE JESUS( Matthew 10:34
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword) TO BUTTRESS THEIR POINT THAT SATAN NEVER DID ANY BAD BUT JESUS CAME TO PUT WAR ON THE EARTH.

THIS SATANIST IN ENTERING IN THE HOUSE OF GOD. I SAY WOE UNTO YOU FALSE PREACHERS.

THE QUOTES THAT ARE USED HAVE BEEN SYSTEMATICALLY USED TO POINT TO THE EVIL DOCTRINE. IF YOU LISTENING TO SOME OF THE SUBLIMINAL MESSAGES IN HIP HOP YOU WILL SEE THAT PURE USE OF THIS DOCTRINE. THE HIP HOP ARTIST LIKE JZ THAT IS A KNOWN OCCULTIST.

ALL TRUE CHRISTIANS WE ARE IN THE EVIL DAYS GUARD WHAT YOU LISTEN TO. THE WORLD DOESN'T LISTEN TO THE CHURCH BUT THE CHURCH LISTENS TO THE WORLD AND IS EMULATING PERFECTLY.

I dey my brother.

I know why i keep the name.

@ Ascony


There is now no hope for you at your current state. Bible says that you are doomed to eternal suffering in hell. Well your will is what i am extrapolating your complete state.

I will give you my reasons. You don't believe in the one that will save you. So what else can one say how then can you be saved? You have been deceived by Satan and you are now deceiving people. You are at war with God and you dont know how dangerous that is. You are playing with fire.

I am sad for you as you are living in hell now. When you die in this state you are going to the bosom of Lucifer to live in the complete absence of God and any iota of his benevolence for all eternity. Now you are still under the mercy of God.

You Punishment will be great and all the True words that you have read here on Nairaland and other places will be torturing you for all eternity. The evil spirit (conscience) will be terrorizing you for all eternity. You will remember all that you read now and the words will be jumping out to condemn you more.

You have the chance to repent now. How sweet is to be in the savior's love. You will be promised of eternal life and you will inherit eternal life. You will live with Jesus in this same earth for a thousand years. you have to turn around and worship him. You must first respect his call and search for him without the thought you are stubbornly hang on to.


Hope I see you in heaven.

Since the Quran is a Book. and the Bible is also a book.

THE QURAN AND THE BIBLE IS NOT THE SAME.

In fact the Quran is a the greatest religious frauds that was ever orchestrated by the Prince of the Air (Beelzebub). Many are deceived and are trained to be deceiving other.

The theme of the Quran is LIE.

NOT TRUE!

It is because you haven't properly defined sin that is the reason you find it hard to understand me. This is the reason He prayed the father to let this cup pass from Him. It wasnt the physical death or the beatings. It was the fact that He will become sin for us. He would be seperated from the father who does not behold iniquity. That is why on the cross, when the father turned His back on Jesus he cried out: My God My God. why has thou forsaken me?


Sin is more than an act, it is the nature of Satan; just like righteousness is more than an act but the very nature of God. It is that sin nature that God seeks to deal with for at the new birth this nature is completely supplanted(not renewed or refurbished) with the divine nature. And this has nothing to do with what the man did or did not do.

1 John 3:10
In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil. . .

You are either a child of God or a child of satan; no middle ground.

In the same way Christ became sin for us; the one who believes is made(not just righteous but) the righteousness of God in Him.

It reminds me of the brazen serpent which Moses made to save the Isrealites from death. That serpent (which is a symbol of sin) was spoken of agian in the new testament. For in the same way that serpent was lifted up on that rod, so the son of man is lifted today for the world to see and believe.


John 3:14
"As [Num 21:9] Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must [Matt 8:20] the Son of Man [John 8:28; 12:34] be lifted up;

A lack of proper understanding of the message of salvation is what is responsible for the weakness we see in the church today.



@ Donnie

Very deep truths but you twisted it. This is one of the problems of listening to "men of God" and not searching for God.

Jesus did not take the nature of Satan he took the nature of THE PUNISHMENT that we inherited from Satan. I was discussing sometime ago with someone that God out of love allowed his son to be punished and this meant in the law and moreover courts of human beings that for God to allow his Holy son to die for sons of devils you can say he transgressed but who shall Judge God?

Satan knows that God is Love and he will do everything for love. Satan tried God too far and God warned him until Satan wared with God.
However there is no Law Against the perfect law of love.

For Jesus to carry the nature of Satan is to want to Subject God into servitude. Satan is at war with God and it looks as if he is winning.

Please don't listen to this false preacher whole heartedly. They don't quote scripture they use LOGIC 90%. We Know them.

I will post them soon because I will listen to their doctrines and compare with scripture. The raising of Jesus on the tree is the punishment of Sinners. You dont carry whole heartedly the scenes and play them as though the situation was the same.

The punishment of crime was hanging on he tree. The Brazen image is a symbol that is you dont look on the snake you will be bitten by the life snake.

The similitude is in the Blood from the cross. So that is we are washed in the blood of the Lamb we shall inherit life and live as Lamb now and in the world to come as kings or Lions.

We are look at the Blood or (The Life) Christ so that we live his live as lambs.

Very Good question.

The absence of God partially or fully now is hell. While the Presence of God is Heaven. True love is from God.

Hope you understand.

I know I am saying I listen to pastor. Infact I am listening to him on my radio phone. He is on Sunny FM now in Ghana.

There many false prohpets and I am not moved by nothing only God.

@MRPataki

everybody has there own way in Christ. We are not robots your Roommate may have his weaknesses. I can attend any church, but the church may not get into me.

Look Your room mate is correct because there is a lot of Fraud in some churches and he may not be strong enough to handle the falsehood that is preached in that Church.

I normally don't like doing this but the church of Deeper life is a good church. The members may have not accepted the word but that is present in every church. The doctrine in deeper is correct. I don't attend deeper life now. Please deeper is not the only church that preaches the true doctrine.

You are fond of taking a statement and generalizing it. A bill board that has immorality should be taken down deeper life or no deeper life. It is like you are making an issue for immorality. Yes there will be immorality in the absence of righteousness.

Holiness is beautiful if you have lived in the mist of true holy men you will understand what I mean. You see I experienced heaven when I was in the midst of my fellow youth choir in deeper. I long for that again just to strengthen myself. Holiness for ever more is so sweet. I will not force no one to be holy. It is a spiritual thing. I will pray that God send a spirit that will expeose their impurity that comes from the heart.

If Many of US were God perhaps we WOULD have Given rulership to SATAN STONES THE SEA, MONEY AND MONKEYS THAT WE ALL WORSHIP.

THANK GOD FOR GOD.

I am not perfect on my own only in Christ am I perfect. Why should I worry what if I were God. THIS IS ANOTHER EVIL EMULATION.

SAME THING WE WERE TEMPTED WITH IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN. SOON YOU WILL SEE THE RELIGION OF IF I WERE GOD.

AND THEN THEY WILL SEEK HOW TO DETHRONE GOD. BUT THEY LIE.

@MrPataki

Now let me tell you if you read the bible very well you will see that THE HIGHEST SPIRITUAL OFFICE IS THE PREACHER(consist priesthood kinghood and Citizen of the kingdom).

Reason? God gives credence to his words than any other. He that bears the word of God is God's general.

You can Preach and lead an individual but to lead a congregation is the problem. Now look.

1 Timothy 2 V
9In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

10But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.

11[b]Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.[/b]

13For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

15Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.


we see that 13 - 15 expounds a doctrine.

It looks as if you have forgotten where the Idea of The KING came from. The Children Of ISRAEL WANTED TO EMULATE OTHER KINGDOM.

IF YOU READ THE ACCOUNT YOU WILL SEE HOW GOD FELT (the people choose a king over God) Reminds you of Satan's Plan?.

Ok Point a Priest that was a Woman that stood before the Lord or went into the Hollies of Hollies.

Hmmm Hold it right there! Then you will say we are not under the Law. We are under the Law of Liberty. And the bible says that all these things are a Mirror of what was to happen in the New Testament.

A woman can Lead and teach small groups in congregation but not a leader of the Local Church this is APOSTASY. Where will her Husband be?

Go and ask Juanita and "Bishop" Weeks

God does not play tricks with us. There is a greater Job to behind a man.

They have been having this conference for a long time not just now.

@ Brother Mr Pataki

mrpataki:
Not for all humans beings though. There are some people who don't believe in cloth wearing.

The Humans we are Discussing are Christians Not pagans!!!!

mrpataki:
Ok. So if I strive to learn, how is it similar to emulations?

Learning is not Emulation. knowing how to drive a car is not emulation. Emulation is different from learning.

mrpataki:
Not totally true there, let me give you an example, I have a job interview with an Oil firm, and I know that definitely good dressing will play a major role in my securing the job, would you tell me that I should strive not to out do my fellow interview applicants all in the name of emulations?

If in your heart is to out do your follow man then your reason for getting the Job is Mainly to out do all you may well be living in you own world.

Look at Nigerians in their big houses after they have outdone themselves and others they are afraid and begin to protect themselves(still outdoing people)

Now I know you will question me and say is it wrong to have a property? You see many nigerians are building houses with blocks and not love.

I will tell you a story, There was once a robber that went into the house of a CHRISTIAN FAMILY and he asked the victims where the most precious was in the house they asked the child to get it, the child went and brought a bible and the armed men were astonished.

You see the men are amassing wealth for the sake to say I am wealthy alone. The wealth that is shared OUT OF LOVE is the true wealth.

EMULATION IS A FUTURISTIC JEALOUSY THAT IS DESTROYING MANY A GOOD HOME.


For example you have a child and you provide for the child and your child has a friend that he is fond of. He comes home one day to tell you that his friend has something that he also wants what will you call that? Now turn that to God and you.

mrpataki:
Paul who wrote the letter to the church in Galatians, in his time was a brilliant scholar, would you tell me there was no emulations present in his time, in his period of studying the law?

Paul learnt the law to be a good person but he thought he was doing the will of God when he was persecuting Christ. To learn is not emulation. Learning is very tough. Can you Emulate how to work maths or be a doctor? However I do not dispute that People try to "emulate" good or bad behaviour.

THE WORD EMULATE HAS A ROUTE MEANING AND THAT MEANS TO COPY SOMEONE IN OTHER TO OUTDO THE FELLOW

mrpataki:
How come the scholars were dazzled with the excellent knowledge of Jesus at the age of 12, and he was discussing matters of the law with them in the temple

JESUS WAS FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT OF MOST HIGH GOD. You cannot know how Jesus got his wisdom? he STUDIED THE WORD AND THE BIBLE SAYS HE GREW IN IT. JESUS CAN NEVER EMULATE ANYONE. HE IS GOD AND MAN.

mrpataki:
Haba!!!!!!
I am sure you meant Jesus washed the feet of his disciples to show the humility in the Son of God.

Yes My brother It was a slip of type.

mrpataki:
As to your other question, while I have the answer to it, I am yet puzzled as to how you can come up with such a question

I am still waiting for the answer to the question.

Quote from: Backslider on Today at 04:08:57 PM
The Spirit of God LEADS you don't Emulate(This means you know what to do and you don't need God)
Please with all humbleness of mind, I don't understand you here. On one hand you are saying that the Spirit of God would lead, and on the other I know what to do and I don't need God Undecided Undecided


Oh Well The Bracket ? I was Only Explaining further. I was trying to tell you what Emulation means in relation to Following God.

Wearing a Cloth is Subjective
Learning is a Job.

If you are wearing a Cloth to out do someone you have erred.

You see learning to out do someone is a great evil. In nigeria there is more than 40 universities and the students I know very well are in a class struggle.

People want to be educated to out do people. The true learning for the betterment of humanity is not there.

Someone that spent his time learning 40 languages and does not use it to help God's creation is complete vain.

Jesus washed the feet of his disciple Out of humiliation

The question is now Why did Jesus not Bowed to Satan Out of Humility?

When you see Women Preaching in Position of Spiritual Authority You Know that there is a Great Apostasy.
Any body can Preach but not Lead.

Did you see in Israel where a woman became king?