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DBR:
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Bamsyle
, and what is wrong with the song?
Personally i see this track as more creative n darin than Aye po gan and Dat ibo boy
and yes i prefer it!! In ur own word too imagine playin "awka awka dat ibo boy before
international audience, watya talkin bout dude?
Bliss was on point here, his rhymes intact, lyrics was flawless. So wat makes a track hot, and wat makes it mediocre?
Heated up beat and razmataz? To call this track mediocre is castin' aspersion on the creativity displayed here.

oNe

@DBR

I just saw this.

First off, DON'T see this as an attack against Illbliss. I like Illbliss' delivery. My criticism is about the track herein. I maintain that his other tracks like "Aiye Po Gan", "U Go Wound" and "Dat Ibo Boy" are much better than this "Who Be U" track. I'll get to that later.

Many things are wrong with the song. Let'z start with the hook - check out the dynamics of the "who be you" line repeated over and over again. It doesn't do justice to the beat at all. I'll try and explain this briefly and pray that you get it cos if I should go in-depth, we'll be here till sundown. The first time I heard this track, I immediately remembered Redman's "Put It Down". Go compare both hooks and you'll see what I'm sayin'. Redman's dynamics/rhythm in the delivery of that hook is real tight. And that's notwithstanding the fact that he just kept repeating the line "Put it down" over and over again (with the words "you gots to get down" sprinkled in between). Now, that's supposed to be boring innit? But it wasn't. Redman spun those words around that beat in a way that leave you no choice than to call the hook dope . . .

As a rapper, if your hook is going to be rapped; best you make it real tight. That's why we love tracks like Busta's "Dangerous", etc. And this becomes more important if the lines are short, simple and straightforward. Such examples abound in Rap Music. Check out Nas' delivery of the line "All I need is one mic" in his song "One Mic", Pac's delivery of "All eyes on me" in his song of same/even title. Check out so many other songs with the same short, repeated hooks. Despite the fact that they got very short and simple words repeated continuously as a hook, they still managed to make a great hook.

As a rapper, when your hook doesn't grab the heart, soul and body of your listener; you've just lost 70% of your total score.

Now to "Aiye Po Gan", "U Go Wound" and "Dat Ibo Boy". Check out all the hooks of these tracks. Very robust and dope. Illbliss' style is kinda the swagger style. He flips and turns his lines. Similar to Biggie's no doubt. In these 3 tracks, you could feel that swagger, that hipness . . . I like "Aiye Po Gan" particularly for one thing - I was stunned when I saw that dude could switch his style like that. I mean, I was used to the rap hooks kinda stuffs he was doing before. That hook is very deep, very touching, very refreshing. Very cultural a la proverbial. You can immediately imagine a singer like 9ice on a remix.

By same token, "U Go Wound" and "Dat Ibo Boy" are kind of Illbliss' signature style. The rap hooks. The swagger/East Coast kinda style. And like i said earlier, the hooks are robust - woven very tightly around the beats. And although the hook for "U Go Wound" contains a short, simple and repeated line, it was tightly woven around the beat to produce a dope delivery.

You can't compare these with "Who Be U" in this regard.

Not only can I imagine playin "awka awka dat Ibo boy" before an international audience. I CAN imagine a veteran like Nas miming it and enjoying himself whist at it. You don't seem to understand what I mean here. It's not 'bout the parlance or whatever. I'm still on the rhythm/dynamics of the hook. Please do sumn for me - block your ears and mime the hook to your hearing. Maybe what I'm saying will sink . . .

Yeah I agree Bliss' rhymes are generally ok (though his delivery could be too punctuated atimes). But he failed to deliver here. This song is what it is - NOT HOT.

And to your questions on what makes a track hot or mediocre, maybe you should go open another thread for that.

Then I'll reply you.

Eldee, you took the whole darn words outta ma mouth keyboard.

You've said all I wanna say. It's not good enough to just pen your lines on paper for all to see (how're we even sure you did not copy them from somewhere). I might sound harsh but I got no respect for so-called MCs who only pen their lines and don't spit 'em. Tell me how poetry, prose or even ghostwriting are supposed to be different from this? Of what use is your great-lyrics-but-written-only kind of rap when we have Shakespeare et al? I've read some really poorly constructed lines in the Rap Battle Thread (though with fine lyrics) that made my stomach turn. If it's all about lyrics only, I'd rather read what folks like Shakespeare write . . .

I don't care how good your lyrics are if I can only read and not hear them. And by "hearing" 'em, I mean they must sound pleasant to ma ears. Of what use is the beat if you cannot ride smoothly over it? I have a penchant for good lyrics but being a great lyricist ain't enough. Let's listen to your flows, your delivery, your rhythm.

Some artistes like Eminem and Biggie are not reverred for what they say but for how they say what they say. Tell me it's only lyrics that made stars out of Pac and Nas. Listen to Michael Jackson and tell me what you can make of his lyrics? Even poems ought to have a rhythm. How much more music? Have you ever listened to some nicely constructed poems being recited? It's like what a cold squashed drink does to a thirsty soul. And if it's Rap, forget it if you've got no rhythm. Artistes like Canibus as someone noted earlier are good on lyrics but he's not acclaimed cos his delivery is poor.

There's an artiste in Nigeria called Sage Hasson. He recites what he calls spoken words/poetry over beats. Great lyrics. But go cop his album, listen to it and come back to tell me he's a rapper . . .

The delivery of a message is as important as the message itself.

Music MUST NOT be lacking in refreshing lyrics though. I agree with the OP who said some Nigerian artistes just say rubbish. Zero lyrics and all rhythm is very disturbing and it's becoming the trend in Nigeria.

So - which is more important . . . Lyrics or Rhythm?

None. It's a tie for me.

mukina2:
Bam

bamslye Vs Cannibus

Don't try me Muki. I'm brutal o.

And the winner is . . .



@topic

Luda V. Xzibit (hmm . . .)

Obie Trice V. The Game

Obie Trice V. Proof

Kanye V. T.I

Bizarre V. R.A. Tha Ruggedman (I'm sorry for this bizarre boy)

Freeway V. Pharaoh Monche

Eminem V. Big L (ill - wordplay against punchlines)

Warren G V. Snoop Dogg (G-Funk feud)

Busta Rhymes V. Redman

Busta Rhymes V. DMX

DJ Kool V. Funkmaster Flex (haha, the roof just caught fire!)

DJ Kool V. Lil' Jon

Grandmaster Flash V. Melle Mel (Ol' Skool Battle!)

mukina2:
bamslye vs Lil wayne

By the time I'm through with Lil' Wayne, he'll re-name himself "Really Frail". Or "Lily Wane". Better still, he'll switch his genre to fuji

@topic

Would love to see a battle between Shyne & Guerrilla Black (my vote's on Shyne 'neways)

@Muki

Yeah it's "Delicious". Goes sumn like ". . . 2shotz/Big Lo, wetin - Lepa, see dat babe . . .

@Ibkaye

Hey, slow down - you want a feud between those twinnies?

@Kay_pumpin

Really?

I break da rules to make da news . . . When it comes to lyrical warfare, I go all out . . . No rules . . . No limits . . . All fun for me . . . But too bad for my opponent . . . Gotta be a showdown . . .

And it will go down in History that I warned you dawg . . .

kay_pumpin:
Sauron Vs Bamslye

Warning . . .

This bout could be dangerous to yo' health . . .

@Muki

"Delicious" - that's the title of the song. Very stupid song

@Ibkaye

I nor be Baba o. Mode 9 don talk say "Dis Baba dat Baba". Me I nor be one of 'em But I'm cool

@topic

2shotz V. Dat Nigga Raw

Naughty By Nature V. Bone Thugz 'N' Harmony (this would be interesting - meteoric bars at top speed . . . delivered with fury!)

Hehehe Ibkaye - wussup?

Comin' to yo' side, what about Zaaki Adzee V. 6 Foot Plus

Danboroba shege²

mukina2:
Michael Jackson vs Elton John

2 sissies

Muki hope you're doin' fine . . .

Rakim V. Kool G. Rap

LL V. KRS-One

Pras V. Meth

Daz V. Kurupt

Big Syke V. Beanie Seagal

Moyola,  

Da Grin V. Lord of Ajasa

Scarface V. Nas

Eminem V. Big L

Pharaoh Monche V. John Forte

Mims V. Bubba Sparxx

Off the records, sumn dissed Mims as follows:

THIS IS WHY YOU'RE NOT

This is why ur not
This is why ur not
This is why this is why this is why ur not
Ur not cause ur fake
you f****n lil snot
This is why this is why this is why ur not
Ur not cause ur fake
you f****n lil snot
This is why this is why this is why ur not

This is why ur not
You cant even rap
You announce your homesexuality on every track
He represent San Fransisco, where d***s go up his crack,
N****s say that hes gay, so we'll leave it at that.
He loves the Gay bars, cuz gay n****s show him love
The gays start to bounce as soon as he hits the club.
But in the Midwest, He cant do their flow,
So when he hits that man, I watch em (get it on the flo')
And if you to get bumf****d, he'll rape in the Bay,
'Frisco to Sac-Town, they do it everyday.
Compton to Hollywood, I hit him in the face,
hes in the low-low, They say he's f****n gay.
And when he hit the Chi', people tell him he aint fly.
They hate the way he dress, they wish he would die.
They love how crowds punch him from side-to-side,
They ask me why he sucks, and simply I reply

This is why ur not
This is why ur not
This is why this is why this is why ur not
Ur not cause ur fake
you f****n lil snot
This is why this is why this is why ur not
Ur not cause ur fake
you f****n lil snot
This is why this is why this is why ur not

lol @Moyola

Since y'all takin' it to new heights . . .

Wole Soyinka V. Chinua Achebe (war of the intellects!!!)

Jeffrey Archer V. Frederick Forsythe

Wu-Tang Clan V. G-Unit

Immortal Technique V. Rass Kass

Pasuma V. Obesere

ODB V. Tony Yayo

Muki this is for you:

Jenifa V. Moladun

Biggie V. Heavy D (battle of flows!!!)

Chingy V. Lil' Wayne

2pac V. 50

Fabolous V. Cassidy

Lloyd Banks V. Big L

Chino XL V. Canibus   (sparks be flyin' - run for yo' dear life)

Jadakiss V. Cassidy

Vakill V. Crooked I

Common V. Eminem

Luda V. Styles P

Jin V. Big L

Nas V. Eminem

@Muki

Why don't you pity Nelly na?

Bubba Sparxx V. Benzino

JT Money V. DMX

MC Juice V. Supernatural (rematch)

Busta Rhymes V. Meth

Busta V. DMX

Lil' Wayne V. Birdman

Big Pun V. Fat Joe (heavy something)

Jay-Z V. Memphis Bleek

Ma$e V. Fabolous

Timbaland V. Puffy

Dr. Dre V. Snoop

Big Daddy Kane V. Kool G. Rap

Craig Mark V. Sticky Fingaz

Outlaws V. G-Unit

Kanye West V. Lupe Fiasco

Mos Def V. Talib Kweli

Layryn Hill V. MC Lyte

Krayzie Bone V. Twista

Fatman Scoop V. Lil' Jon= Pandemonium

Muki

ROFLMFAO

Sway V. Will Smith

Sasha V. Bouqui

Kel V. Blaise

Kemistry V. Weird MC

Muki,

Mode 9 V. KRS-One

Ruggedman V. Xzibit

Muki, I'm holdin' ma ribs!

Muki/Ibkaye, you both are crackin' me up

Jay-Z V. Papoose

D'banj V. Durella

Canibus V. Big L - Third World War

MC Lyte V. Queen Latifah

2pac V. Soulja Boi (Kai this guy would piss in his pants)

tosinaded@:
becareful ure threading a dangerous path

Says who?

Is it becos you've not seen my lines in the Battle Thread? I don't pen ma lines, I just spit them - RAW

Muki, Em would bury Lil' Wayne 66 ft deep Can't agree more on Nas/Canibus.

Me and Mode15? You want to turn me into a netcee? Warn yourself - I'm an MC o

DMX V. Jah-Rule = Commotion

Hehehe. Ib you got me crackin' there

Off the top of ma head, my list would go sumn like this:

Eminem V. Jin (sick)

Canibus V. Nas (sick)

Royce Da 5'9 V. Eminem (sick)

Canibus V. Soulja Boy (comic)

50 Cent V. Ice Cube (sick)

BEEF.

One of those 4-letter words with 4 million meanings and interpretations.

It has killed many. Maimed a lot more. Ended careers. Revived some.

We've witnessed a lot of 'em.

From the suburbs of UK to the urbane depths of US - even the dark and deep forests of Africa . . .

From 2pac V. Biggie, Canibus V. LL, Nas V. Jay-Z, to Lil' Bow Wow V. Lil' Romeo

The late veteran Biggie defined it (in What's Beef) as "when you need two gats to go to sleep", "when your moms ain't safe up in the streets", "when you make your enemies start your Jeep", and "when you roll no less than thirty deep". . .

Right now we ain't bovered 'bout what beef is.

Let's see - which beefs would you love to see?

Paraphrased - which artistes would you enjoy beef[i]ing[/i] each other/one another?

Any artiste. Dead or alive. Active or long forgotten. Foreign or international.

Any genre ^{*not only rap, yours might be R'n'B, Pop, Reggae, even Fuji or Juju*}

Not that we love violence. Just for the fun of it

Just imagine. Which beefs would you look forward to?