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chiogo:
He is definitely not over-rated!!

He is definitely the best rapper who ever lived!!

And yeah, Bamsyle, thanks for pointing out that T.H.U.G.L.I.F.E acronym

He was definitely misunderstood by many who say he's over-rated!

Oh yeah, NIGGA= Never Ignorant About Getting Goals Accomplished - Tupac

Tupac is(was) the truth!! Y'all don't make me come back here.

A-40:
Anyone that calls a rapper that made songs like Changes,Dear Mama,Still i Rise,Brenda's got a baby,Till the end of time,I ain't mad at cha,I wonder if heaven's got a ghetto over-rated should be SHOT!! Nuff said

Moonstone:
Oh my heart! Why do people keep saying these things? How can Tupac be overrated? That guy said more in a verse than most rappers could dream of putting in an album. I love 'Hit 'em up' and 'Me against the World' as well as 'Changes'? Please. . . that guy is a legend and deserves more respect that most people give him.

Oh my gosh, Is it 'So many tears'?

How do people listen to these songs and say that he's overrated?

I'm so over this. Anyone who thinks Tupac is overrated must have a very sad taste in rap music.

~smurf:
Aww, shucks!!!, you far too kind, generous words too, I will take that as a compliment Monsieur, thank you , I'm humbled!!

~smurf:
Oh wow!!
Well hello to you too, *Gives him a handshake as well*
I speak the truth, and the Gospel truth alone, its what i feel, and its what it is as well!!

I received an article from Tionna of Talk that Ish and I was just appalled at what I read. Blender Magazine put together a list of overrated celebrities and Tupac was one of them. The list was supposed to be tongue in cheek, but funny or not, to me, it was done in poor taste.

Now what if I, or a hip hop magazine, wrote something like, “Elvis was just a fat azz junkie” or “Kurt Cobain is so overrated”? Wait, let me take it up a notch and say something bad about John Lennon. Maybe talk about Marilyn Monroe. You get the idea. The media and the comments would be through the roof because to them, they were geniuses. Icons. But what about Tupac? Aside from the guns and violence and the “Thug Life” tattoo that was inked on his abdomen resembling the life he chose to lead, was he not conveying a message in his songs and/or in his interviews? Was he not considered “intelligent” to most? I guess Blender overlooked that and focused on the fact that a dead guy outsells most of the musicians that are alive . . .

It’s not the first time the pages of Blender have been used to bring down Shakur a few notches. In its June issue, rapper Lil Wayne listed him among his top five rappers, but then admitted: “I can’t front: I was never into Pac.” (source)

Tionna has put in her two cents as well:

“Not only is it racist but it’s a disrespect to the dead and it’s a terrible attempt to stir up some drama. Don’t get mad because Tupac has statues and classes in his honor- so what? Even a fictional character like “Rocky” had a statue. This is just horrible and I think Blender will receive plenty of calls and letters regarding this Tupac-gate and I feel that it’s up to us Journalist, Bloggers, Music Execs and such to debate this. Man, was Kurt Kobain not available when this list was made? If we allow this company to say this about Tupac, what’s going to happen next? Run DMC was the worse group ever or James Brown was not a legend. Let’s not stand for this because white media stick up for their own (I.E. Britney Spears performing at the VMAs once again after she tanked the first time). Man, speak on it! We can’t allow our boy Tupac to go out like that. That’s crazy!”

In about 9 days (September 13th) it will be 12 years since 2Pac has left us. And this is what Blender magazine does. Shame on the mess. Can we please just let the man rest in peace and not have some magazine like Blender tarnish his legacy?

. . . we as black people . . . should not stand for this foolishness . . . not when any deceased white star gets exaggerated far behind their talents took them… (Heath Ledger), Elvis, who they themselves had thrown away up until his untimely passing . . . Pac was indeed number one before his death and beyond.

. . . in history, blacks arent usually overrated, because they have to really be as good as the credit that comes to them. This may be subjective, but its quite frankly, “the gospel”.

End this looney debate about Pac's greatness being “exaggerated”!! HE DESERVES ALL THE RECOGNITION HE GETS!

Whats over-rated is the way “people” walk around with they chest out with pride for the so-called civil history of America in comparison to other countries - “what poor memories we have”. I get tired of “people” giving our founding fathers undue praise . . . what the mess good did they ever do in the interest of people outside those exactly the same as them!

Look check this out. Pac was one of the greatest and to say he’s “overrated” is something that shouldn’t come out of no one’s mouth. I think he’s unappreciated now. u can’t compaire his music to today’s music because the style of rap is different. We got so many rappers out here that are garbage and don’t have nothing to talk about. Not all just some. See, like with today’s Chamillionaire, UGK, Z-Ro, Trae (just to name a few) are like Pac, they had a story to tell. You really don’t hear music like that no more. So, unappreciated is my vote. Makaveli lives on.

Theres nothing overrated about 2pac, maybe theres some underratings about just how much love and care and adulation he had for his people, which is unmatched by any black celebrity - Pac had homeless people living in his mansion for Godsake! He backed up his earlier criticisms of the president having a huge white house and so many needy homeless individuals only steps away right there in Washington. He died trying to workout an outline for black men and women young and old (esp young), this makes his death feel like the end of all hope for the blacks without a voice… the rappers today dont care about anyone, except themselves - they could care less who dies, who got shot 50x on their wedding day by the cops, most of these hip-hoppers dont stand for shit now a days (minus nas talib, david banner, krs, and a short few more). PAC COULD NEVER BE OVER-RATED!!!

Musically, he was the lyricaly eqivalent of nitroglycerin - so powerful, so sharp and so confident in what he was saying…somtime he could be quite funny too.When you speak of greatness, ITS NOT MEASURED BY HOW FAST YOU RAP OR HOW MANY STUPID-ASS METAPHORS YOU CAN FIT IN THE BARS OF ONE VERSE… its appeal, its intelligence, creativety, output, longevity, originality - 2pac was literally a once-in-a-lifetime, how many artistes sound the exact same especially New York area?? MANY. Now, who have you EVER heard sound like tupac? ABSOLUTELY NO ONE…dont say he’s overrated, its not his fault he was blessed with a once-in-a-lifetime voice that makes everyone elses seem irrelevant or less-relevant! That posthumous material everyones bitching about was some of the greatest stuff in hip-hop in the last 12 yrs Makaveli was the first posthumous releas btw! Still I Rise, Until The End Of Time, Better Days are all great!!! . . . tupac was more special than he could ever be overratted!!! You gotta sell millions before they even mention you if you're black . . . ! It never ceases to amaze me, these people who dont understand hip hop, dont like hip hop, and dont even know how to listen to hip-hop saying whats good and whats not!

Name a man in rap most sincere, more enduring, more surgical, or mor exciting than Tupac Shakur? Nas, love him, but now, Biggie…shallow material, great, but blend in with everyone lyrically, krs, no, eminem? Pleazee!, Jigga, nope, kool g rap? hell nah, Cube, snoop, twista, Az, andre 3000, redman, wu tang click, no nooon no… if you're the better than everyone and people acknowlege that, than you're not overrated. RIP PAC.

milk2:
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bouzymill:
. . . like sumone sayin nas has lost d intelligence in his ryms. None of us is an authority 2 say dis and infakt, in my opinion, dis is wrong. Nas can truly b all mouth, but he's always on point except some few joints. Canibus is anoda intelligent mc who has aggressive and violent ridden lyrics. This sets his style away 4rm nas' all-rakim style. Jack d ripper is canibus' best record but dt doesn't make it best rap record. And indeed, anyone can hav his best effort evn a fool. Alabai beta dn m9! How?

A-40:
@Sauron
Jigga and Nas grammatically challenged? Are you kidding me? seriously this Canibus thingy is getting too far!! are you sure you are not his hypeman? mehn i wouldn't be suprised if Canibus did not understand half of what he spits hence his crappy delivery if you even want to talk about underground lyricists talk about cats like Black Thought of The Roots and not serial failures like Canibus.

bouzymill:
@a-40 <br> canibus is way overrated. No point in makin an mc luk god-like, vinnie and allah of mind triks beat canibus, evn 2 agresivnes on d mic.

Moonstone:
The worst thing in the world is an ignorant man with a strong opinion.
Lyrics are definitely more important in the long run and for crying out loud, 2pac was the greatest of them all. I will always respect that guy. . . he set the pace for others to follow.
Guys like Jay-Z and Nas have really conveyed a lot by their lyrics. . .