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superlightning:
Kanu is the bravest man I know at the moment.

He was arrested, tried, bailed and ambushed. he outsmarted those losers.

if he had died in the ambush, idiots calling him a coward would have shouted "good riddance", now he is alive and they impotently scream "coward".

Kanu, like ojukwu, wasn't perfect. they had one thing in common - rude stubbornness.

thank you my brother. Yorubas are the most toxic and evil hearted people I have ever seen in my whole life. any day we will break out of this useless country called Nigeria, I will celebrate the fact that we won't have anything to do with the Yorubas again, than our actual freedom.

In those moments of uncertainty, before Kanu reappeared in Israel, the Yorubas in this forum were laughing at us, shouting that he was dead, or being held and tortured somewhere by soldiers. now he reappeared, they got so disappointed, and changed their narrative to cowardice. fools.

ipobarethieves:
a complete waste of time to challenge a confused pipu..Kanu is a Cow.Even a mother hen,crocodile, shield/ protect their pikin. Kanu abandoned his Pigs and runz.A freedom fighter dnt runz.

so he should have stayed and have himself used as a target practice by Fulani solders,? is that what you are saying ?

Newznow:
Yes I agree he was brave when he started for the actualization of Biafra but he finally end up running away like a coward.

did he run away from the agitation ?, or that he eluded the murderous move of barbaric Nigerian military on the guise of operation python dance ? when has elusiveness becomes cowardice ? is stupidity bravery in your tribe?

Newznow:
He is a Complete Coward I challenge you for the Debate

I am supposed you went to school, you said he is a complete coward, then list those his actions that shows complete cowardice. if I say you are a thief , I will have to say those things you stole that makes you a thief.

I hope you know the meaning of cowardice. I will not debate empty accusations with you. if you lack substance to both accuse him of cowardice and strongly debate your point here, then I will advice you keep shut, and read from others who has substance to debate.

Those of you calling Mazi Nnamdi Kanu a coward, I challenge you to a debate. show me what makes him a coward. To me he is the bravest Nigerian ever existed and I will show why I said so.

Bring it on.

They deserve it . They scored outrageous 19 goals and conceded only 1 goal in the tournament. They faced and defeated some of the tournament's heavy weights = Saudi Arabia, Iraq, South Korea, host country UAE, and Asian giant Japan. they won all their matches in regulation time. A great feat.

StillX10:
Am not igbo but seriously Kanu had seen this coming, and we here today

It's now glaring even to the blind.

otipoju:
I still strongly believe that Nnamdi Kanu was released by the Nigerian Army on the orders of Buhari and flown to Israel and finally London for this very purpose.

To get a sizeable number of Ibos not to vote and thereby reduce the number of votes for PDP in the eastern states.

The narrative that Nnamdi escaped on the night the army invaded his fathers compound is just pure "sobo".

From detention, Nnamdi would of course jump at the offer of freedom because it serves his interest - seccession of Biafra. Buhari too would use Nnamdi to achieve his aim of a second term but if Nnamdi ever sets foot in Nigeria after the election if Buhari wins...they would finish him once and for all.

The timing of his sudden appearance
( Atiku announced Obi as running mate on October 12, Nnamdi resurfaced in Israel on October 19 )and his first message to IPOB to boycott elections gave their action away as a knee jerk reaction to Atikus choice of an Igbo VP.

Fool without education and logical reasoning. In 2015, igbos voted 95 percent against Buhari yet he still won the election and even defeated an incumbent president. What now makes you think Buhari needs to disfranchise us in other to defeat Atiku?

And your small sized brain equally believes Nnamdi Kanu will use holy and a no nonsense country like Israel to scam people. Is that how lowly you think of the holy land of Israel ?

Your problem is lack of proper education and inexposure. Confused Zoo citizen.

Good morning Nigerians. I will not say much or even a word about what is currently going on in the country concerning the Chief Justice of Nigeria. I will only leave you with the following quote made by Nnamdi Kanu 5 years ago.

“As they campaign vigorously for elections, you would think, they are coming to grow the economy, enthrone justice, breed unity and tolerance, love for one another. No, they are coming to elevate Hausa-Fulani supremacy, to reposition the security agencies by sacking all competent hands and replace them with their kinsmen to drive their ethnic domination of the Biafrans, the Fulani herdsmen will be armed and encouraged to slaughter us with impunity, and their masters will protect them. They are coming to ensure that my people are enslaved forever. Those who do not, believe me, will soon see it happen before their eyes.” NNAMDI KANU FEB 2014.

From today I double my respect for nnamdi Kanu.

If na naija now we go say na juju

EdoBoyJazzie:
I've not seen anything as stupid as the idea above. You boycott the election and Buhari wins.

What are you going to do after the boycott that you cannot do now?
Boycotting the election is what Buhari prays for, you boycott he wins, and nothing would happen, end of story.

Bro the essence of the election boycott is not who wins or not, the essence of the boycott Is to draw internation attention and pressure on Nigerian government to accept to fix a date for referendum. Either Buhari or Atiku will still win the election if we boycott or not.

Besides, you sound like Buhari is the problem and Atiku is the Solution. ( that is a typical pdp campaign tactics.) freedom is what we want not who wins Nigerian election. Besides, did Atiku tell you he will fix a date for referendum if elected ? So what makes him different from buhari?

If the table turns now, let's say the oil in Biafra land finished now, and a huge oil deposit is found in Sokoto and maidugri, do you think the north will still want one Nigeria ? And if they do, do you think they will allow the southernerns own 85% of its oil well while they own only 15% ? Just exactly the way it currently is with our oil.

Lets use our brains. Our mumu don do. Total election boycott and our freedom is our best option. Atiku and Buhari( jubril) are only after their personal interest, their family interest and that of their tribes men. Not for you and I.

So no Hausa Fulani Moslem man or woman was corrupt enough to be convicted in 2018 ?

goslowgoslow:
This is one of the most stupid and idiotic comments I have ever read on Nairaland. Before I give you response to your idiotic comments I want you to tell me your tribe. If you cannot then remain with your stu.dity forever.

Am igbo .

legba1:
I will spare you a few line here children of hate....yorubas do their things and achieve their aims without trying to coarse others to join them and they do this base on what will be good for them after all....but your tribe will rather run down whoever does not submit to your manipulations for you to achieve your goals...your tribes hatred for Yoruba nation stem from the fact you lot have never been able to rail road the yorubas into helping you achieve your tribes political goals against the hausas...and I sincerely don't see it happening soon....your tribal home is the worst inspite of your so called resourcesfulnea yet you lot won't stay back home to develop same while preferring to litter the nooks and crannies of both the yorubas you daily deride and the hausas you profess to hate passionately.....your tribe is a loner and I assure you it will be easier for a Carmel to pass Tru the eye of a needle than for your tribe to achieve anything meaningful in the scheme of things here in Nigeria...pls blame no one but you and your forebearers....because your greed and thoughtless coup of 1966 tilted the balance of things and caused us all these pains...hateful lots

Igbos hating Yorubas? You must be a comedian. You guys are too low for for even our hate. It's like saying Jesus Christ hating satan. We are too busy and gainful for that.

You said we are littering your street...... haha haha so funny. We are not littering your streets. We took over. We developed your place, we developed you, and you should be forever grateful to us. Due to our doggedness and resourcesfulness we came ( atimes with nothing, ) , hustled hard, and within a short space Of time bought your best lands, live in the best neighbourhood, run the best businesses, built the best houses and outshine you in every spheres of life in your own place. That is who we igbos are: resourcesful, rich, hardworking, beautiful and outstanding in every thing we do both within and outside Nigeria. Men and women.

So dear we don't litter the streets, we buy it, we own it, we run It, we rule it. We live in it like kings and queens . You are the one who Live in dirty smelly houses, eat shiit like looking foods, and litter your own street. Lazy and cursed.

kemicalreaction:
Idiat, have you licked atiku's ass today

Dirty. Have you eaten your dirty Amala today ? How can an entire tribe be lost in smells and dirtiness. Mother, father, children, Youths, boys and girls . Tufiakwa . some of them Including young girls and grown ladies will go days Or even weeks without taking their baths. Living in smelly houses and wearing smelly boxers, pants and bra. With satanic marks all over their body.

Clap for your self. You are indeed sophisticated. Let me tell you the real truth, if you have stayed with Yorubas you will see that they are only sophisticated in tribalism, diabolism, envy, skull mining, promiscuity, Cowardice, yahoo yahoo and above all dirtiness. And not anything meaningful or proud.

Most of you only attach the word sophistication to yourselves on nairaland. on offline, with the amount of unpleasant odour that will be oozing out of your brownish teeth and smelling inner wears, you won't even have the face to term your self sophisticated.

You are sophisticated and Buhari died and instead of osibanjo your son to take over, the northern cabals ( your eternal masters) imported a body double from Sudan and denied you the presidency. Sorry. Your tribe's cowardice is Legendary.

Ahhh you talked about me licking Atiku's ass. Please who is Atiku ... Cuz me, my family and my friends we are boycotting the election 100%.

dreamwords:
Afonja and kanu, is like amala and ewedu

I dry tell you. They are just envious of him and his intelligence and courage. SMH for them. Ndi akpa dirty.

Most people above who commented on this thread( obviously yorubas) are stupid, envious and backward folks. The great question is is Nigerian working? The answer is no.

Nigerians should be eternally grateful to MaZi NNAMDI KANU. He truly means well for everyone. He sees far and has exposed most evil currently going on in our society.

My 100% respect for him.

Greetings everyone for all the good works going on here.

I want to ask a question on the issue of transcript for undergraduate admission. I see most of the schools I was researching about demanding for high school transcripts. What does this really mean ? Is it supposed to be my results from jss1 to ss 1 ?

The reason I ask this question is that I no longer have the results. The only thing I have now is my waec gce olevel result. So does it mean there is no university that can offer me undergraduate admission with my gce result, my sat result and my TOEFL result without the full secondary school transcripts ?

Tokunbo countries. God forbid.

Obi1kenobi:
Comedian posts an article asking people to debate him.
People come to debate comedian.
Comedian offers no debate, but calling those that disagree with him Yoruba and forming cheerleader for other posters that are actually debating.

You're a funny comedian, sha.

I intentionally ignored and refused to debate you because from the onset I noticed that even though you are quite intelligent, you are also, unfortunately, daft in reasoning. Scoring own goals with your own argument. I equally observed that you are not only annoying but unrealistic with your ideas and you are also a very closed minded person who is permanently lost and imprisoned in his own thoughts and ideas. And any challenge of your ideas seems to hit straight at your obviously fragile ego.

The essence of any healthy debate is to learn, reflect and improve. But that doesn't seem to be the case with you. You are buried in your own ideas and consider it unchangeable. Can't you see all pazienza's efforts to enlighten your ignorance seems to be a waste of time as you keep coming back with the same faulty line of thoughts, and keep arguing against the obvious realities on the ground.

This doesn't mean I will only consider you an open minded person if you bend and accept anybody's or everyone's thoughts and arguments, no, your independent mind is quite admirable. But you must understand that the ultimate independence is flexibility of one's mind and it's ability to learn, relearn, unlearn and improve. That is being equally independent of your own ideas and existing preconceptions.

One big reality you have refused to come to terms with is that freedom struggle is a very difficult and complicated thing as it aims to challenge or terminated some already existing deep rooted interests. And as such doesn't require grey approach but a black and white one.

I was one of the people who initially didn't fully buy into some of kanu's methods. For instance, I for once thought he should have been moderate and not extreme with his choice of words, but I later realised I was wrong. I came to understand the underlying strategic reasons behind his choice of words. It was all conciuos and calculated. And I give it to his strategic brilliance and fore thought.

He for instance, ( as I already pointed out in my earlier posts on page one of this thread) calculated that some of the greatest oppositions and sabotage this struggle
will encounter will come from Igbo political class. These are igbo men and women who are already well seated and hugely benefiting from Nigeria and her politics, and will continue benefiting from her in so many years to come. Such men, even though are igbos, in all honesty, wouldn't want Nigeria to disintegrate and will do anything to keep her going and their power and money flowing.

Having known that, he from the onset, black listed them in his strategy for the struggle, and instead , crafted his strategy and choice of words in a way it will resonate with the common man who has the final say in the society, and awakend and inspired the strongest revolutionary feelings in them. He consciously used words that will highlight the evil, hopelessness , and slump Nigeria is already Into, and made his listeners totally dissatisfied With her and desirous of a better life in a free progressive nation.

He equally understood that a moderate reasonable approach will not work with Nigeria and her leaders as most Nigerian leaders are not reasonable at all. They think and act like animals and will prefer to offer bribes or kill than to debate or dialogue.

It is based on this backdrop that I consider your ideas and suggestions unrealistic or even childish to even warrant a debate. You suggest political solution to the struggle without first pondering on its far reaching implications and workability in this part of the world. You insist on its viability with emphasis on western countries trying it out already even when pazianza have pointed out to you that even with all the majestic civility, and strong , enlightened, political institutions of these western countries, political solution is still yet to work out for them. If it hasn't worked out in the UK and Spain, what makes you think it will work out in this barbaric backward part of the world ?

Another thing I found very childish of you is the way you insult IPOB members and nnamdi kanu. While ironically, I am yet to see you critisize the federal government for its backwardness and her systematic marginalisation of the South East and south south people which inspired the agitation in the first place. And am also yet to see you condemn the federal government for the way she has been murdering our people for demanding for their freedom. The truth is, even if you don't agree with some or all of IPOB methods, at least be reasonable and sensitive enough to recognise that these are men and women who are not only spending their last hard earned pennies, but are also putting their lives on wire to liberate you and I. Somehow they deserve some of our respects.

pazienza:
Obi1kenobi post




Not true. By the below assessment, you indirectly implied that SW would fair better than SE in disintegrated Nigeria. You reached this narrow conclusion without taking cognizance of the changes loss of the international airport monopoly and seaport monopoly Lagos currently enjoys under Nigeria will have on future prospects of SW independent country, and how SE will be better off from such changes.










Freedom fighting modalities differs depending on the situation of the fighting group. Government participation by freedom fighting organizations, worked for Scotland, but have not worked for Catalonia. There is no guarantee that it would work for Biafra. It will be nice, if you would admit that IPOB getting involved in the political process of SE would not gurantee Biafra freedom anymore than it has done for Catalonia so far.
Arming themselves right now, to fight Nigeria might not work as well.
It was tried before and failed.




Every successful movement needs a clear cut leader and not left at the mercy of hyenas parading as intellectuals.
You had already made it clear that you don't believe in Biafra, so what does it matter that you and your ilks are not allowed to contribute to IPOB course of actions? If you truly believe in Biafra, you can always raise your own intellectual Biafran group to succeed IPOB or slowly force them to come in terms with your own views.

Nnamdi Kanu built IPOB from the scratch and displaced MASSOB and Uwazuruike because he gave Biafrans a better platform( radio station) to rally forces for their cause.
Nothing stops you and the so called IPOB hating, but Nigeria loving Igbo intellectuals from doing same. MASSOB members were loyal to Uwazuruike, but NK won them over. If the so called Igbo intellectuals can't win Igbo grassroot support from NK, then they are no intellectuals, they are more like Pseudo intellectuals.






We all watched Catalonia elected representatives push Madrid, and the scene we saw when Madrid government pushed them back, was no different from what Nigerian soldiers do to protesting Biafrans, we saw Spanish security guards harassing Catalonian civilians who were determined to participate in the referendum.
And just as NK was incarcerated, so was Catalonia elected head.

Like I said, Electoral participation has not worked for Catalonia independence agitators. Even though I admire it, but it's also true that it has failed to yield Independence for Catalonia. These things are not as clear cut as you make them.





When you denigrate IPOB, you denigrate Ndiigbo.
Even though IPOB people delusionally see themselves as representatives of the entire SS/SE, the truth is that IPOB represents no one but Ndiigbo. Ndiigbo are the ones who bear the consequences of IPOB actions, no other ethnic group in SS does. The hate IPOB attracts from Nigerians is because it's associated with Ndiigbo. Those who hate IPOB also hate Ndiigbo. There is no separation of the two.
They hated MASSOB, they Hated other civil Biafran groups like Billie group, both of who never insulted or denigrated any Nigerian group.
You might be new to this forum, but I have been here since 2007, and I can tell you that MASSOB was hated by Nigerians as much as IPOB is hated. The default setting of the average Nigerian mindset is to oppose anything affliated to Ndiigbo.

You denigrate Ndiigbo when you try to present a false picture of Ndiigbo fairing worst than all other southern Nigerian groups in a disintegrated Nigeria.
There is no build that exists between Ndiigbo and Nigerians, and as such, IPOB can not burn what doesn't exist.

Who cares who will be the president of a sinking Nigeria, a third world country with increasing number of poor and impoverished people come 2019 and 2023.

If you don't know, many Igbos want Buhari to continue as Nigeria president, so that the country gets poorer and weaker and make it easier to present Biafra as a better alternative for Ndiigbo.
Also an Igbo president would be a Pyrrhic victory for our Biafra struggle, as such Igbo will likely be a stooge of the North who would do next to nothing for Ndiigbo, but Ndiigbo would be held responsible and accountable by hateful Nigerians for his inability to revive a country destined for death, what we saw with an Ijaw GEJ is a marker of what hate and negligence an Igbo president picked by caliphate will bring to Ndiigbo.





Like I told you before, IPOB have every right to protest against any events they don't want in Igboland, so long as they go about it unarmed.
It's done like that in civilized climes.

Thanks bro. Please keep educating the fool. Like his pay master jubril he is an impostor. A dirty Yoruba man claiming to be igbo. Igbo don suffer I swear.

pazienza:
Obi1kenobi post

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Ofcourse, SE secession will lead to cascade of events that will lead to SS groups forming their own countries or will only continue staying in Nigeria if 100% resource control were offered, a condition which will not be acceptable to neither SW or the North.

But you are wrong on SW. They stand to lose out if Nigeria disintegrates. As it stands, Lagos is the sea and air gateway to Nigeria. Lagos port and MMIA enjoy nearly total monopoly. Most foreign embassies and consulates are in Lagos or Abuja. It gives Lagos the edge as number one destination of companies coming to Nigeria as they usually set up their headquarters there to maximize on the proximity to Seaport and ease of travel to the rest of the world via Functional international airport. This is why most companies are concentrated in Lagos and are now moving to near by Ogun, it's the ease of international business a functional international airport offers and the convenience of importation of raw materials for manufacturing through the only fully functional Nigerian seaport that makes Lagos what it is today.

Should Nigeria disintegrate,SE will have its own international functional airport and possibly a River port , while SS will have functional seaports and international airports, companies to operate in SS and SE will not be allowed to produce goods in Lagos factories and dump on SS and SE, they would have to move in to SE and SS to establish, if they want a part of the market share.
This would mean that jobs usually found in Lagos will be located to these places and will cause depopulation of Lagos and her market share.

Countries will establish embassies in Biafra and Niger delta, the traffic of MMIA will shrink by more than 50% as people Of SE and SS origins can now process visas in their regions and travel using their international airports.
The end result will be shrinking of Lagos economy to serve just the NW and SW.

Disintegrated Nigeria will not really benefit SW in terms of Lagos. Lagos currently enjoys sea and air monopoly, it would not have in disintegrated Nigeria. Serious and real Yorubas know this deep down their hearts, which is why they are usually pro Nigeria.

SE don't need or want to be important to anybody. SE is probably the most literate region in the country. The region with the most homogeneous demographics in most things, ranging from culture, language, and religion.
It also boasts of a highly cerebral human resources scattered all of over the world.
Most importantly, we are the only region who would have suffered greatly to get a new country and have a deep sense of patriotism towards our new nation that was grown and watered for more than five decades. I have never seen a great country without highly patriotic citizens. SE have the ingredients needed to build a prosperous progressive nation.

FG deployed military and police personnels against MASSOB, and I don't remember MASSOB operating a radio station, I don't remember them making so called "provocative" comments you speak of. Yet they were hunted in numbers and killed in large numbers.
Truth is that Nigeria is afraid of Igbo Seccesion.



It doesn't matter who makes the demand For Biafra. The FG will not give up any part of Nigeria without being pushed and left with no option.
Ojukwu, Zik, Okpara, Mbu and all the Eastern region Big names, including Akanu Ibiam who returned his Knighthood to the British Crown in protest to British genocidal war in Biafra were all big wigs in Eastern region political landscape in 1960s who supported Biafra at birth in the 1960s, yet it was not enough for the FG to back down..

What has changed since then that would make FG to change.
Moreover it's funny how you belittle current Biafran leaders, you forgot that revolutions are not always led by those within the system the revolution hope to topple. It's often the case that after the success of a revolution, the hitherto nobodies who led the revolutions, become etched in history as national heroes. Kanu and his ilks might be a nobody to you today, but who knows tomorrow.
Either way, support or non support of current Igbo political class, might not necessary change the outcome of the Biafran struggle. It didn't change it in 1960s. But I get that it would improve the legitimacy of the struggle before the international community.





I am also a strong critic of the boycott elections stance of IPOB. I'm yet to see how tenable a solution it is.
But unlike you, I will not go overboard to start about denigrating Ndiigbo or fellow Igbos to pass across my point.
Freedom fight is long term thing. Catalonia with all their sophistication are yet to free themselves from Spain. If Election participation is the best method, why is Catalonia not yet independent, why was their political leader who led the referendum last time around arrested and imprisoned by Madrid with no consequences for Spain, ever thought of that?




IPOB never made any threats on Anambra election. They simply mobilized, campaigned and created public awareness for their election boycott agenda. They went about it peacefully and strongly.

IPOB never harassed Obiano. Either way, they are part of his people, and have the right to made open their demands before his presence, it's called democracy. Political leaders are public servants and not demigods.

The Ezeemo burial thing was staged. IPOB denied involvement in that.
IPOB have always gone about their business peacefully, despite harassment and deaths, the FG in connivance with our state governments had meted on them.

Udo

Thanks my bro, I salute your your intelligence. Obi1kenobi is only smart by half but he is yet to accept that. His trick can only fool a person not sophisticated enough to see through his motive and who he really is.

To start with, I don't believe he is igbo as he is claiming, forget his moniker, in a faceless forum any body can claim any identity or background. He is only playing an insidious game.

Observe that the two approaches (political or war) he is proffering for the agitation is exactly what the Nigerian government wishes that Ipob will take. A political approach is weak, Long, unreliable, and easy to sabotage , while war will be costly for us , and even with strong backers, we can not guarantee we will win in the end, and should we fail to win, the consequences will be unimaginable.

Another issue he claims he has with the agitation is the adoration Nnamdi Kanu gets from his followers, and this is exactly where he exposed true identity and motive. For God's sake, this is agitation we are talking about which naturally involves millions of people following and obeying the instructions of one person with clear purpose. Naturally any leader who can inspire his people, sacrifice for them, confront their common enemy and plight, give them courage, speak for them , and allay their fears will be well loved, adored and even worshiped by his people. And NNAMDI KANU fully ticked those boxes.

So what is wrong if his people adore and honour him for all that he has sacrificed and achieved for them ? Go to Yoruba land where I believe obi1kenobi is from, and you will see leaders and kings who have not done to his people half what Kanu has achieved for his people getting even bigger adoration. So what is wrong if I see Kanu and I prostrate and greet him? How is that a problem ? He is a royal Prince to start with, and a man who has stacked his life, his family, and is sacrificing everything to liberate his people. He is fully deserving of every respect and adoration he gets. He is the Moses of our time.

Obi1kenobi:
A secession of the SE might lead to the Niger Delta fighting to form their own republic so that they would control 100% of their oil. The SW seeing that there is no oyel money again would also look to secede to solely enjoy the gains of being Nigeria's industrial hub and commercial nerve centre and gateway. All that VAT that Lagos are generating - they would want it to stop going to the North. These are the threats of allowing breakaway groups and the sensitive realities we have to navigate. Not insulting other people as "unity beggars" in a "zoo" as if the SE is that important to everybody: a region that is the least cosmopolitan in Nigeria with the lowest population of non-indigenes.
The FG deployed military might because Ipob were nuisances who generated provocative hate speech, and political thuggery that would have eventually led to violent conflict. Of course the FG overreacted and killing unarmed protesters is a moral outrage, but it was the state governors of the SE that asked the FG to intervene.

The FG keep ignoring demands for referendum because it is not made by consequential people. Who the hell is Nnamdi Kanu - an unemployed, uncouth riffraff from the UK, to tell the FG what to do? How many of your elected representatives have you lobbied to represent your Biafran interests before the National Assembly? Which politician in the whole of Igbo land at any tier of government was elected on the platform of advocating the Biafran cause? WHy couldn't Osita Chidoka, who expressed solidarity for the Ipob cause, get even 2% of votes in the Anambra elections? You see why Ipob is an unserious intellectual movement who prefer empty noisemaking to coherent strategy, when they couldn't even mobilize support for sympathetic politicians and preferred to shout "zoo" upandan? How many of the Igbo elite (politicians, businessmen, corporate executives, industrialists, academics and intellectuals and authors, royal fathers and prominent traditional rulers etc) ever raised their voice to support the Ipob cause? How many? In Catalonia for example, plenty of their elite class (including even football figures like Guardiola and Pique) support secession from Spain? Name prominent Igbos that support the Biafran cause? Again, who the hell is Kanu for the FG to take him seriously? If Ipob are too lazy to mobilize support through political advocacy, then they can either pick up weapons and fight or shut up.



The issue is not whether the SE is marginalized or not. That is not the point of my argument. The point is the strategy that Ipob have chosen which makes zero sense. I have never in my life heard a group that claims dissociation from politics is the solution to their problem rather than looking to reform the political system. If you're abandoning the political process, the only other strategy that makes sense is taking up arms to fight a war. Anything inbetween that like I said is a whole lot of empty noisemaking. Boycotting elections like I said earlier would be the equivalent of a prisoner in the Holocaust death camps in World War 2 going on hunger strike. If your jailers are already planning to kill you, why would they care if you eat or not? If the FG that are marginalizing you keep on winning elections while you keep on boycotting, what have you changed? Why would Buhari or his APC successor (who won't be Igbo for sure) care whether the SE votes or not? The less votes from the SE, the better for them, since the SE offers bloc votes to their opposition. Why would they care if you vote or not? What would you have achieved?



Ipob made a lot of threats before the Anambra elections. The harassed Obiano in a church service, and desecrated the funeral of Ezeemo's family. Naturally, there were fears on election day, they'd cause trouble. The FG were there to keep the peace. It is your right to stay at home during elections. It is not your right to disrupt and intimidate voters. That is a crime. They don't care about our boycott. They care about keeping the peace during elections. Massive police presence is always mobilized during elections in every state, so Anambra was no different. And after all the noise Ipob made, more people voted in Anambra's last elections than the one 4 years earlier.

Oga your ignorance is legendary. The summary of everything you wrote is that power belongs to the elites and not to the people. You are a typical African slave. A product of a failed Nigerian nation. Sorry.

Why is it that all Buhari's close friends are late?

wirinet:
On the Basis of popular support from their people on the issue and on the issue of common purpose. If all the igbo politicians and igbo business elites and masses advocate for Biafra, Northern politicians would be forced to listen.

Ever other region has some parasitic interests in Nigeria outside the Niger Delta or south south, so it's the south south that holds the ace for obvious reasons.
The igbos need the support of the South South to get any traction on their Biafra agitations, but instead of courting the south south, the igbos are arrogantly trying to force their Biafra agitations on the south south.
If the igbos can get the south south to agitate for Biafra, the North would be forced to listen.


Politics is politics anywhere in the world. You negotiate based on your advantages and weaknesses. You give and take. It is not easy, but it is more effective than the alternative - war.
Niger Delta was able to agitate for an increase in derivativation, from 0% in 1999 to 13% presently, the goal is between 25 - 30%.

The Yorubas were able to negotiate with the north for the presidency after their tribesman was denied same in 1993.
The Ogonis are still agitating for clean up of their environment and reparations for decades, they have even won numerous court judgements against shell both locally and internationally. The FG has even claimed to have started the clean up after an elaborate launching. Even though the FG and Shell are still playing games, eventually, they would be forced to accede to the agitations of the Ogonis.

It might take 300 years. Catanonia has been fighting for a referendum for centuries. Scotland fought for independence for centuries and it took centuries before they were granted referendum, even though referendum was inserted into their constitution.

The problem of African is wanting everything instanta, separation is a slow, arduous and painful process, even under normal circumstances (look at Brexit ), it is infinitely harder under crisis conditions.



You have not provided your opinion the alternative to the political process. Do you advocate for Kanu and his group to continue to disturb the peace of the South East? Do you advocate for Kanu and his group to put the lives of ordinary south east citizens who are not members of IPOB at risk?
Do you advocate Kanu insulting and threatening ordinary Fulani citizens and calling them all sorts of names, thereby putting the lives and businesses of ordinary igbo people in the north at risk?

Point of correction oga, kanu has not and is not putting the life of any south easterner in danger. It's your barbaric federal government that is killing innocent citizens for demanding for a referendum. And here you are trying to change the narrative by putting the blame on Kanu who is only demanding for the freedom of his people. You see why I earlier said the reasoning of an average Nigerian works anti-clock wise. Tufiakwa unu.

Obi1kenobi:
On the basis that they are thinking human beings, open to persuasion. The North's only "parasitic interests" is Niger Delta oil. Believe it or not, the SE really isn't that strategically relevant to Nigeria. It's the least endowed with natural resources and minerals. It's the tiniest region by landmass by far. It's landlocked and is the only region with no international borders. We're frankly not that relevant to the interests of the North.



Money didn't need to change hands for the NE legislators to successfully lobby for a North East Development Commission with tens of billions of Naira in extra funding years after they destroyed their own zone with Islamic extremism. If you cannot get your elites to champion the cause of the grassroots, then you're frankly not worth listening to. It is up to us to compel our politicians to fight for the cause. Not making empty noise on Facebook. Again, even the civilized countries in question didn't grant referendums just because some agitators demanded it. It took decades of painstaking, patient work to successfully lobby for it, because no country wants to weaken its unity and territorial integrity. If Ipob agitators are too lazy to do their homework and do what it takes, then they can't be taken seriously. Successful agitation and activism is more than just shouting "zoo" upandan and insulting other Nigerians. This is why I have kept saying Ipob is not a serious intellectual movement and it just became an unserious cult of Nnamdi Kanu.



Maybe. Maybe not. It's up to us to try. Two things are for sure:
1) The democratic process is the only way to accomplish it. Failing this, war is the only other option and I can assure you its easy to make noise about war on Facebook or Nairaland, but a much different prospect in the real world.
2) Nothing will certainly be achieved by election boycotts. It simply makes zero sense. I have asked several advocates of this what exactly they intend to accomplish and how it will be accomplished and the next line of action when the election boycotts continue to fail and I have never gotten any sensible answer. It's like going on hunger strike when those you are striking against couldn't care less if you drop dead or not. Take the Presidential election, for example: why the hell would Buhari give the slightest fuckks whether Igbo people vote or not? What will it take away from him? On the contrary, he knows Igbos despise him and wouldn't even want them to vote. Why would he care whether Igbos vote or not? What will your election boycott achieve. Name one thing.

Are you saying you are not imagining the out come of the fact that an entire section of a country wilfully refuses to participate in an election?

Obi1kenobi:
There are only 2 ways to achieve Biafra:
1) through a painstaking political process involving grassroots mobilization, election of politicians that sympathize with the cause, and hard, assiduous lobbying from those elected officials to get a referendum. That is how it is done in the civilized world. It takes political organization, persuasive mobilization, and a lot of patience, but that is the only civilized way to do it. Many Scottish politicians have lobbied hard for a Scottish independence referendum for decades, before they finally got to vote on it. Same with Quebec in Canada. Those of you that think all you have to do is demand a referendum (from a bunch of youths who don't speak for anyone but themselves) and get it are delusional dreamers. No country in the world surrenders its territorial sovereignty so easily and it's up to you to persuade and cajole and lobby. Else, we go to the number 2 way.....

2) by going to war and towing the path of former Yugoslavia or Sudan or Ethiopia/Eritrea.

Anything other than the above is useless noisemaking and that is the path that IPOB have chosen: to simply be nuisances who spend all their time with incendiary hate speech shouting ""zoo this....", "zoo that....".

Nnamdi Kanu is a mentally ill mooron and people who take him seriously need help.

I had wanted to come hard on you to debate the practicality of these points and suggestions you made above but I realised there is no more need doing so as you have already scored an own goal above when you acknowledged where your idea will work is in a civilised society. That is the problem here : Nigeria is not only an uncivilised nation but a barbaric backward thinking one. With people whose reasoning is on per ( or less) basis with animals, and functions anti-clock wise. A place you will be kind if you call her animal kingdom. A joke of a nation.

Such civilised manner of agitation will not work with them. The only type that works is the type IPOB is using now and you can see it's yielding results already.

wirinet:
Then you should have specified "igbos in the south south" instead of saying all of the South south minus edo.

Am supposed you understand what a referendum is?