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tbaba1234:
Enyeama is the best keeper Nigeria has ever produced. No question. The keeper does not have to be as good.

If you have 3 young keepers. One or two will reach a decent level.

If you bring back an Ejide, you will impede the opportunities to grow and gain these international experiences.

Which opportunities are we impeding?
So, if Ejide is called up and performs better than the younger keeper, he should not be used.

Sniper4real:
Only God knows what really went wrong after that psg match. Matches after it just dey somehow

Pogba did not play that match. that was the major difference as the boys on that day kept it simple.

eph12:
Pogba was very good in this match. He controlled the midfield but it cost us our creativity in attack. We would have troubled wolves more if he was played in Lingard position. We need someone to pair Tom in the middle so Pogba can join the attack. He's easily our most creative player and one of the most creative players in the league. He shouldn't be wasting away in the center

Stop all this walling, Pogba is our best player but that does not mean he is an alpha Omega, he might even be the worst player if he in Lingard position. Pogba assisted from that position in our last match though he was almost non existent before those two assists.

Taliban:
Is dele Aiyenugba also in the Israeli league? If both Ejide and Aiyenugba are still playing active football with the keeper crisis we have I don't see why we can't give them invites and if they are past it, drop them finish. Edwin Van Der Saar came out of retirement and was still top class. Peter Shilton retired in his 40s, David seaman was around for a long time, we all still see Buffon so we shouldn't discriminate on those two based on their age. If they still have ir, could even be a good opportunity for the upcoming to learn from them in person.

Exactly my point.

jihday:
After Ike retired we had Enyeama, Ejide and Aiyenugba I think, all played local football and were very young but still kept faith in them till they came good. So keeping faith with these young guys isn't a bad idea besides Ezenwa no be small boy

Which other keeper was available, both Ejide and Enyeama were backup to Ike before is retirement. Also Enyeama was performing for the team.
Both Akpeyi and Ezenwa are not young keeper.

safarigirl:
Now, he's called as a temporary panacea, is that really better than second fiddle? Yes, he may come, but it is not to be crowned in glory....this is assuming he doesn't have a few gaffes and you and the others clamouring for him today, don't turn on him.

Ejide is old, whether you people call him or not at this point, it will have little or no impact on his career, the same cannot be said of the small boys. In fact, for his peace of mind, I would recommend he stays far away from the national team.

when did Shola Amoebi receive is first call up, Ejide will surely be aware that he can't be in the team for long

safarigirl:
I don't know how you can say this with certainty. Uzoho and Ezenwa have been decent for the GWG, nobody will be ready to take over the mantle and if you are looking at Ejide, I highly recommend you look away.

There are no tournaments coming any time soon, so, Rohr has all the time in the world, to try the young goalies until he gets what he wants. This one is not like 2014 World Cup that they rushed Odemwingie inside.
The best time for Ejide, was last year, before the World Cup, the second best time, was this year, before AFCON.....if Rohr and co had no use for him in these crucial moments, they will not call him up after them, except all the young goalies are injured or something


Alampasu, Nwokolor and Osigwe will get look-ins before Ejide. Rohr say he's building team for the future, and you people are mentioning Ejide that will be 38 by the next World Cup....what do you want to use him for? Una just wan make pesin papa come play six games for you, then you will kick him out again like the last time. You people are wicked, selfish and insensitive.

Even if it is just for a game or friendly, it does not matter.

Joebie:
You never know some of the young keepers we have may be familiar with Ejide and they may look up to him in the process. It can actually go either way. It’s not like I think NFF or Rohr will look his way. I’m just stating the fact that it’s not out of place to invite him considering our current predicament

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Joebie:
I wonder how long u have been on this thread. Most of the time it’s a case sentiments over logic here

Not quite long

The simple fact is, we don't have any goal keeper for now. The best we can do till we get a proper goal keeper is to do try and error even with the old keeper until we get a befitting retirement.
No one is clamouring for old players in other positions because we have adequate replacement and better upgrade.

TheSuperNerd:
K.Nwakali is only in the conversation as a prospect if he comes good. You just love twisting statements. Is anyone saying he should be called up to the SE now? He remains a prospect that can step up to the plate if his club issues goes well. We don't have a player of K.nwakali's profile and style in the team so hopes on him are still valid as he is still very young. He is a genuine DLP and hopes are that he comes good and contributes to this new generation.

Unlike calls for Ejide which holds no water at all.... Sometimes I wonder what kind of Super Eagles some of you lots want us to have.... A team filled with just any mediocre because he plays football somewhere at top flight level. Looolll... Abeg.... You see the shape this new generation is taking, inviting Ejide will be like installing a virus on our SE software system... Lol

What virus, El haddary keep for Egypt uptil 45 years old. mention one Nigeria goal keeper that is performing at club level. Is it the error prone Akpeyi and Ezenwa.

TheSuperNerd:
Dreamers...

how old is Akpeyi and Ezenwa, even Cameroon with their good keepers still invited kameni for the AFCON, Inviting Ejide who is currently the only available keeper playing regularly.
There is nothing bad in him keeping for one or two year till the young keeper mature to take over the reign

nitrogen:
See ehn, do you agree with me that our midfield was shyte today? If you do, then EOD.

McTom is nowhere near these guys. He didn't do anything special, until we scored the second goal (after the pressure was off) before he started showing some level of seriousness. I'd rather have Matic and to some extent, Fred play with Pogba than McTom. I don't fuvking like Fred, but it is what it is, Fred is a better player.

And yes, I made reference to Carrick, because he was the best option in the position before he retired.

Pogba was also shit about from his two assists.

ucsquare:
OK, we've heard you...next person pls.

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timay:
we can't sell them for now, because of the quota for English players in the team. That is why ole is pushing to replace them with the Academy boys to take their place. So that we can buy who ever we want in future to replace them.

Why do u think Man city had to sign an English goalkeeper they didn't need on the last day? it was to fill up that quota

We don't have that problem , I just list more than 9 players that meet the criteria of home grown player in our team, Man City are still even short of home grown player, We don't have up to 17 non home grown player in our team so their is still space in the team for non home grown player in our team. it is the coach policy. How many home grown player are in man city team. they are not up to 6

timay:
we can't sell them for now, because of the quota for English players in the team. That is why ole is pushing to replace them with the Academy boys to take their place. So that we can buy who ever we want in future to replace them.

Why do u think Man city had to sign an English goalkeeper they didn't need on the last day? it was to fill up that quota

We don't have that problem , I just list more than 9 players that meet the criteria of home grown player in our team, Man City are still even short of home grown player, We don't have up to 17 non home grown player in our team so their is still space in the team for non home grown player in our team. it is the coach policy

timay:
Those guys have already been cancelled our in Ole's mind. when he was saying last season that some people will not be part of his success this season, y'all think he was joking. We can't sell those guys because of the quota for English players in the squad, but be rest assured that their days are numbered already. Bar any injury, those guys won't make our match day squad that much any longer

We can sell those deadwood as we have enough player that fulfils that condition such as Pogba, Shaw, Maguire, James, Rashford, Bissaka, Lingard, Tuanzebe, Mctominay and Perreira

We need to work on our Midfield as it was very obvious, it is our weak point. We didn't play well so am not optimistic about this season as we play trash throughout the game.
We could not hold the ball for long which is very bad.
I am one of those who want Pogba to be sold but to be honest, we can't sell him now as their is no replacement for him in that team. he is still one of our key player but could be very stupid at times. I pray we hold him still the end of next season when we can buy a solid midfielder. we need at least two Midfielder in that team.
The only good thing about today game is that we won and our defence has improved. Our midfield was woeful while our attackers were clueless at time and uncoordinated.

codedguy1:
That reply from BARA was for me I couldn't really understand what he tdyna say so jump am pass.

But your reply about getting the right players is also something I can't understand.

How does one know a player is the right player or wrong one. The likes of depay, Veron, di maria, forlan, Sanchez, zaha, that Colombian striker, etc will you classify them as the right or wrong as at the time they brought them.

No be after the players have come that we can assess and know who was right or wrong. Daniel, AWB and Maguire are here. It is only after this season we would be able to assess if they fit or not.

Let's not make it look like we already know who would be a success or not. The input/strategy/selection of the coaches is another thing we should assess.

Totally agree with this, once he failed with his English experiment than any criticism about buying only home grown player will be justified.

ChristoBam:
So we shouldn't buy players good foreign players because they might become unsettled or flop? Do you see our squad and the different holes in the squad? Are there no players we could have signed that would have filled those holes.

The problem United has had all these while is bringing in the wrong players. So the plan of the club should have been hire a good manager that can bring in the right players. Simple!! We are just whining ourselves by hailing the new strategy of building from home grown talents and buying young 'hungry' English players. We are just making the gap between us and the other teams wider.

Just look at what Ole said about the transfers. He said that not getting new players in was not because of there was no money. He said he didn't find the right players. Like for real? In the whole of Europe, you couldn't find the right players? The transfer window lasted for months not 3 days so I don't even understand that.

Any good manager with a well structured team should find it easy against United this season. Just mark out Pogba, that's all.

Note- I expect Man Utd to beat Chelsea tomorrow though. That's for people trying to quote me tomorrow after Chelsea's match.

With our experience for the past three to four years, you expect the team to buy any player that did not fit into the style of the coach.
Am not against foreign players, but only those that will improve the team should be bought in.

codedguy1:
Stop introducing another angle to the argument. Who said anything about core players now. We were talking about buying English players and not buying English players that would be the core of the team.

Please stay awake!




Let me respond to your 2nd statement because I don't understand the first.

How is it different from what I also expect from what I wrote.

as far as am concern, Out of the three players we signed this season, two of them will be given more playing them, why should we pay heavily for koulibaly and others who at the end of the day might become unsettled or become a flop. Let support the team and once the current experiment fails then the complaint should continue, even Man City and Liverpool are not dominant because of the stars player they bring but they buy players in area they need and who fits into their system.
We can buy both Messi and C.Ronaldo and still end up being trophyless if they don't fit into the system

codedguy1:
I have a problem with all this falling back on English players. Why do we have to fall back on English players? When we were having a bad run these few years, were the English players not part of the team?

The club should buy players that are ready to play for the club regardless of nationality and stop all this nonsense of falling back on English players. After they meet the expected quota any other player coming in should be done based on what he can add to the team and his dedication regardless of his nationality, being English should mean nothing at this point.

As if English players play like Argentineans and Brazilians

which of those players can't bring something different, we need hardworking players not stars that will fail

codedguy1:
I have a problem with all this falling back on English players. Why do we have to fall back on English players? When we were having a bad run these few years, were the English players not part of the team?

The club should buy players that are ready to play for the club regardless of nationality and stop all this nonsense of falling back on English players. After they meet the expected quota any other player coming in should be done based on what he can add to the team and his dedication regardless of his nationality, being English should mean nothing at this point.

As if English players play like Argentineans and Brazilians

how many of them are core of the team, Smalling is still part of the team based on the failure of our foreign buy, the likes of Rojo,blind,Baily and Lindelof could have easily displace them, Rashford is in the team based on his one season perform and is still our best player from set pieces. Shaw is also one of the best left back before is injury. which other English players as been core of the team, is it Mctominay or Lingard that were drafted in based on the poor performance of our buy

eph12:
Its the difficulty and cost of signing these English players that's the problem. Their equivalent will go for less that amount

We already have Smalling, Jones, Young, Shaw, Lingard and Rashford. Almost half of the players in that list up there are not here anymore. So the core has still been these same English guys. They have been the constant thing since that 2012/13 and look at where they have dragged us to.

What was our achievement when those that left were still in this team, Most of this players you listed are either from Academy or during Fergie era apart from Shaw.
We bought Fred, Martial, Depay, Rojo, Blind, Darmiam with the hope that they will improve the team but no success, that is why the coach is falling back on English players to see if they can work hard to bring the club back to glory days, our experiment with foreign buy as failed hence the fall back on home based.
We were linked to many foreign players but we were priced out,the likes of Coulibaly, Serge Milikovic etc.

eph12:
I meant to the extent of insisting on only English players during the tw. Those were the core players but Fergie knew when to bring in the foreigners.

I won't want to go into the effort of the foreigners in SAF successful years.

We already had a complete back line of English players. We have Lingard and Rashford also. That's about 6 English players already.

We try bringing in Bruno and Mandzukic but it was not successful, we have over 8-9 English player in our team during Fergie regime, the likes of O'Shea, Gary Neville, Evans etc. we

eph12:
Unless you are trying to say SAF insisted on buying only English players in a transfer window, maybe I didn't watch United under Sir Alex then.

the core of his team were English, Scholes, Carrick, Ferdinand, Hargreaves, Rooney, Giggs, Fletcher, We have invest in previous years on mainly foreigner with no significant improvement on the team that is why we are going back to the basic of our success during Fergie era which lies on the English

eph12:
Honestly I don't understand your angle here

We have try a lot of foreign stars, yet no improvement in the team, the likes of Di maria, depay et al even Pogba did not improve the team

the most important signing we need now is Bruno Fernandez, if he can settle in smoothly. What Liverpool has going for them is team spirit, put each of those players in some thing and they turn to pure average. We have bought a lot of players that were not successful at the club so no need of unnecessary signing.

LZAA:
We are both saying the same thing
Udoh said there is no quality in the NPFL
you have to be really dozy to believe that

I will agree with Udoh, Their is no top quality player that will stay in our league for more than two season that will not move on.

tbaba1234:
In the past, you can argue 90% but that trend is changing rapidly. Our national team is dominated by under 17 players who never played in the league and players from the diaspora.

The quality produced by the league has dropped drastically. Can you compare the likes of Odey and Lokosa to Finidi George, who went straight to a champions league winning side or Amokachi. Look at our performances in Africa.

Coaching is one problem but i do not think scouting is properly done either. Academy players have achieved more success in recent years than NPFL players.

Apart from that, most of those Players move aboard after stardom

darkelf:
CR9 left but that didn't diminish the value of players coming from the Portuguese leagues.

The bulk of the senior team started their careers from Portugal.

Our league is crap due to poor management and corruption. It may take 20 yrs of hard work to build a quality league.

But in Naija, as soon as leadership changes hands, the new guard tends to put down and destroy the work of the old guard and thus, there is no continuity.

So give or take, it will take 100 yrs to build a quality NPFL

Most of them left before they even start for their senior team.

LZAA:
There are enough players in NPFL to replace ighalo and mikel(who to me are bang average)
Dont get carried away by ighalo's golden boot,he was awful in afcon and only other teams' lack of strikers aided his feat(pls dont call mane,salah cuz they were worse)
If u dont give players a chance u won't know if they are good enough
Fergie sold hughes,kanchelksis and ince and replaced em with scholes,butt and beckham
Man u fans were asking for his sack yet today those names are legendary in MUFC
Another bloke said the quality is not the same as in the 90's but that is a lie
Qualitycan never hide,it just needs nuturing and guidance instead of calling every foreign based nigerian

Mention a single player in the Nigeria league that can operate in our midfield