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Rgp92:
You can do it GEJ! Haters gonna hate
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Koolking:
This should not be news. Whoever was expecting the whole imbroglio to turn the other way round was actually hallucinating. I am not surprise at the result but i am surprise at the surpassed violation of justices in Nigeria. Everybody looks the other way when ask for the truth. After all the judiciary has gambled its independence and integrity.

We CAN NOT continue this way. There is time for everything

[size=14pt]A day of reckoning will soon come, [/size]

Yes! Revolution! Aluta!!!!

monkeyleg:
@Beaf,

Be extremely careful when you come to a public forum and accuse others of things they havent done. How can my stand for Ogboru be fermenting trouble? are you saying I must not condemn the most wretched and wicked leadership Delta state has ever witnessed just because you say so. Delta state is in so much trouble because the likes of you have refused to conceed and accept the truth. And by the way, I have Itsekiri blood in me as well, and I will tell you now that Deltans are more interested in good leadership than where our governor comes from

Ogboru does not need to belong to a party steeped neck deep in corruption and mismanagement to win the election, and if what you are confirming to all of us today about GEJ supporting Uduaghan is true, it speaks volumes about the Person of goodluck and what he stands for

The question is really not about Deltans, it is more about your ethnically charged methods. The fact that you identified me as Itsekiri (and therefore belonging with the "enemy" only goes to show where your politics is pointing.

Yes Deltans want good government, but you seem to care a lot about where that leadership comes from, otherwise you wouldn't care that anybody is Itsekiri or not. Afterall, Itsekiri's are 100% Deltan.

I have been watching the crude tactics you guys are employing with increasing trepidation. Why attempt to pitch the Urhobo against the minority Itsekiri? Do you want to squash them in their own state, simply because the governor is one? I don't get it. The demonstrations you people are sponsoring started with so called, Urhobo students (read better as paid up halleluyah singers). Why? After that, it was "Urhobo graduates" looking for pipeline security jobs, indeed!

Every ethnic group in Delta state is heavily armed, stop stoking fires that will only lead to bloodshed. Perhaps, you don't care for youthful lives though.

If we don't want Uduaghan, then lets impeach him while getting EFCC pertitions together; its called organisation.
That is the only civilised approach, Delta state is not packed with animals.

kuramo:
Beaf,
I believe you are being disingenuous on this issue, eguerrilla posted an opinion written by a legal scholar in which there appears to be no ambiguity on the rights of Nigerian citizens to hold or contest any public office.

Maybe the way out of this is for the Supreme Court to rule on the issue because the subject is bound to come again in the near future.

My opinion is that it is intellectually bankrupt for anyone to suggest Nigerian citizens should forfeit their right to contest public office based on dual nationality.

When did legal opinions become the law?

@eGuerrilla

You are funny indeed!
You asked me two aggressive sounding questions (more like statements without proof) and I asked to to go make your enquiries directly.
Then you came back with the same stuff and I asked you if their passports were in your lap (obviously they are not).

And now you've come up with this:

eGuerrilla:
I travel, I read, I have a fair idea how these things work.
I also recognise an attempt to stultify discussion when I see one - by a political apparatchik, perhaps.

Care to share what you read? Links? Or how your travels have made you learn firm things about David Marks and Bankole's citizenship statuses?
Give it a break. Peddling rumours is not a good thing.

eGuerrilla:
Why should I ask them?
I only cited those two examples to show how inexact (and fluid as some have been known to argue) the provisions of our constitution are.

And your insightful response is: why don't you ask them, sir?

Do you have their passports in your lap? How do you know?

^
Abeg, go and find some other place to perch. You are a liar.
Does saying that someone is far from the other good crop of drivers mean any of the id!otic crap you have been posting?

Anybody armed with both morality and with the slightest grasp of English would interprete that sentence to mean that, Vettel is a good driver, but not in the same class as Lewis and Alonso. It is only your lies that say Vettel is not a good driver.

There is nothing more annoying than someone lying to your face and just continuing in the lie like they are ill-bred.
Shame on you.

Liar.

eGuerrilla:
When did Bankole renounce his foreign citizenship?

When did David Mark renounce his Belizean citizenship?

Why don't you ask them, sir?
It is against the provisions of the constitution. Period.

To take political office in Nigeria, you must renounce any foreign citizenship. And yes, it is in the constitution.

[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=793857.msg9457976#msg9457976 date=1320148114]And you keep telling me you are not connected. This one wey u dey chop alone no good o.

Anyway beaf., let ACN speak. I see no evidence of this connection yet. All I see is internal PDP politics. We need to first address how Sylvia, the PDP darling + his party failed Bayelsa people so woefully before we can sell him to another party.

They can't just sell bad market like that, we must do appraisal.[/quote]I have no connections at all. What I know can be gleaned from the press, so I nefa chop nutin.
ACN has shown incredible desperation to get an oil producing state and tend to pick the worst characters in the ND, witness the disgraceful Akpan Udoedehe in Akwa Ibom for example.

Ovamboland:
If they didn't disobey the law Black Americans will still be sitting at the rear of public buses, have to give up their sit for white men, cannot use the same public toilet facilities as whites, will not be attending same schools as whites.

I am sure there where BEAFs incensed at the temerity of Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King junior who dared to challenge the system and 'break the law'

This is funny! What oppression is Osun state under that they are breaking the law to be free off? If anything, Osun is getting a free ride on the FG's wallet.
Why cheapen and desecrate the names of Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King junior and the entire black race, because you want to help a misguided 19 bus contingent of aluta howlers, sent on a praise singing trip to Abuja at a time when workers in Osun are owed several months salaries? Don't you have respect?

Tell me how the stark reality of real hunger pangs in Osun state worker households is helped by utter recklessness and foolishnes of Aregbesola in first organising the trip and then disobeying police orders, causing the men to be arrested and the aluta trip to be even more expensive. What a dumb waste!!!

The whole process was a vain-glorious waste of everyones time. Now Nigeria can get down to business.

anonimi:
Osun PDP has raised a valid point:

Workers have not been paid for two months by a pseudo-progressive government of Association of Conmen in Nigeria (ACN) despite the huge monthly federal allocation, IGR, bank loans etc.
Yet Aregbesola can send ACN thugs to Abuja on solidarity with Chief Conman- Tinubu in state government vehicles paid for with tax payers money and federal allocation received on behalf of all the residents of the state (irrespective of the political affiliation). Aregbesola also abandoned his duty post in Osun state to be in the court in Abuja. Is this how to deliver dividends of democracy to the voters in Osun state
Let ACN people sit up and work properly instead of becomin a Tax & Steal party.
PDP should continue to scrutinise EVERY action and omission by ACN to provide valuable opposition to this band of conmen masquerading as progressives. That is what democracy is all about and ACN does that whereever they are not in power so why not PDP?

This is a very insightful post indeed, we have a governor who has clearly misplaced every priority that can possibly be misplaced. Osun workers have not been paid and are grinding along daily, but Aregbesola could afford to send 19 buses of aluta howlers on a glory singing trip to Abuja. I wonder how much that unfortunate and rather primitive endeavour cost? I wonder how many salaries that aimless junket could have taken care off?

Gbawe says the workers actually agreed not to be paid. Wonders!
Osun, is the wonderful land where people "donate" work, while the food on their table is stretched.

[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=793857.msg9457460#msg9457460 date=1320143363]Is Sylvia not the PDP Governor of Bayelsa State?

Did Sylvia not win the last PDP primaries? Then the Gov. Election as a PDP candidate?

So why this crude attempt to dump a Useless and current PDP cargo on another party?

I hope ACN people are not falling for this evil propaganda. PDP Bayelsa must carry their load, Na dem buy the market.[/quote]ACN want Sylva. I don't think Sylva really wants to leave PDP, but both sides have made contact. It might go through or it might not, that contact is the reall reason those boys got enraged enough to commit such a dastardly crime against what seems like ACN property to them.

koruji:
Your made up story about ACN and Sylva is just what it is, the political ploy of the politically deaf party (PDP).

Yeah, and people in far away Bayelsa somehow made up the same story too and burnt Tinubu's newspapers van. I'm getting convinced that you are as dence as a rock.
Dude, ACN has no place in the ND, we don't deal with bloodsuckers. After throwing off the yoke from the core-North, no other group is going to think they can walk into the place. Dem neva born dem.
I believe, that was the message being passed to both Sylva and Tinubu. If you like accept, you like don't, its your cup of tea.

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I guess you have never been outside your village. Go wherever and answer the police foolishly or unconvincingly, only to lay back in your cell to talk about your "rights," cos you think police and laws are out there to decorate the place.

The police have a duty to ask you where you are going and for what purpose and if you fail to convince them, they can warn you and turn you right back or simply throw you in the back of the van for further interrogation, maybe even just to keep you off the streets. IT IS THE SAME EVERYWHERE IN THE WIDE WORLD.
Only a jackass would think the police have no right to keep individuals from accessing a location, either for their safety, or the safety of others.

Think of being a policeman at a checkpoint, only to be besieged by 19 damn buses. You ask where they are going and they answer, "to sing aluta, sir!" Would you be fool enough to let them pass? Especially when a UN building has just been blown up? Even drunks are kept off the roads for goodness sake!

This whole thing is so foolish, its really incredible you are carrying it on. Don't you have any self pride? Your strands of argument are too foolish to carry on as an adult.

koruji:
Like I said destroying media property by burning or bombing it is "a gentle warning" in fascist eyes.

Boys no de talk too much for awa side.
Thank God there were no injuries.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=793857.msg9455744#msg9455744 date=1320114856]@Beaf, you should be ashamed of yourself. koruji is right, this is an act of terrorism and crime that should be condemned period![/quote]I don't recall commenting on the act, do you? If so, where? Lol!
I have simply said that ACN can have Sylva, since they are so in love with him. It is the percieved love affair that caused the van to be burnt which is a different and regretable story altogether.

^
You can wax lyrical about tangential matters that twang your emotions. It wouldn't change the fact that ACN is desperate to get their hands on Sylva; or do you have another story?

^
You are not obliged to see reason with the law or apply your personal standards to police actions. The law is the law, it is written in stone.

koruji:
You are the silly one. Point to the law and stop pulling it out of your behind.

I said you talk very stup!dly.
People listening to the crap spewed by your likes on this thread would think the average Nigerian is a cretin or an irredeemable fool destined for the clay pot.
This is from the Met's website in the UK:

What is a stop?

There are three different types of stops that you may encounter:
■1. STOP - when a police officer or police community support officer stops you in a public place and asks you to account for yourself and may ask you the following questions:
[size=14pt]■What you are doing
■Where have you been
■Where you are going
■What you are carrying[/size]
■2. STOP AND SEARCH - when a police officer stops and then searches you, your clothes and anything you are carrying.
■3. VEHICLE - a police officer can stop any vehicle and ask the driver for driving documents. This is not the purpose of stop and search, but you may be given documentation relevant to road traffic matters. It becomes a stop if:
■you or any passengers with you are asked to account for themselves; or
■a search is carried out of the vehicle, you or any passengers with you.

You will not necessarily be searched every time you are stopped. Sometimes you may just be stopped and questioned.

The police officer or police community support officer must explain why you are being stopped and held to account for your actions or presence in an area.

There are plenty of occasions when you might talk to police, and most of these do not qualify as either a ‘stop’ or ‘stop and search’.

You have not been officially ‘stopped’ if, for example:
■You stop an officer to ask for directions or information
■You have witnessed a crime and are questioned about it to establish the background to the incident
■You have been in an area where a crime recently occurred and are questioned about what you might have seen

In cases such as those, you have not been stopped for the purposes described on this website, a record of the encounter will not be made and you will not be given a receipt.

However, if you feel you have been stopped you can insist on the officer or police community support officer recording the encounter and giving you a receipt.

http://www.met.police.uk/stopandsearch/what_is.htm#whatstop

Dunce.

koruji:
That would be your London in Bayelsa/Delta State, Nigeria. You think everyone is a dunce you can bamboozle? Do you even think before you spew these lies?

The Kogi state police just handed the appellants the court case. Nobody has to tell anyone what they are doing in Abuja or anybody in the Nigerian state for that matter. This is a carryover of the police-state mentality that years of jackboot military rule has forged into your skull.


What the police needs ensure, if they have a reason to conduct a search at all, is that nothing dangerous goes into the city. If anything dangerous turns up then questioning may begin on that basis. But you cannot stop someone for no reason, conduct a search for no reason and find nothing incriminating, and then still keep questioning them. Do you see how that looks now?

Here is a poser for you: What if they answer any of the following: wedding/funeral/toilet/watch TV/court. . .? What then? The police has a checklist of things people can do in Abuja now?

What is wrong with you people? You expect someone going to Abuja for a negative thing to tell you - because you asked?

Please point to the part of Nigerian law that sanction this new addition to the "fascist" rules you guys are building up daily. Tick tock tick tock. . .

You are talking very stup!dly.
Thank God stup!dity can't change either the law or the rights of the police to enforce it.

koruji:
Yes, it is called Osun Defender to defend Osun against agents of darkness that took over in the name of PDP government for almost 8 years.

And it successfully conducted that defense. It documented the atrocities committed by the PDP government since they stole Aregbesola's election until they equally coughed it up.

You can choke on it if you like. Delta is burning, but Beaf is here bursting pipes over Osun State.

These days you just wake up and post like a rascal!

Lol! ACN can have Sylva since they so desperately want him. The whispering of sweet nothings between both lovers has reached a crescendo. Rascals attract rascals.

[size=14pt]‘Attack on The Nation’s vehicle aimed at Sylva’[/size]
On November 1, 2011 · In News

By Emmanuel Aziken, Political Editor
Bayelsa State Government, Monday, flayed the attack on a circulation van belonging to The Nation newspaper, describing the motive of the arsonists as another dimension to orchestrate political attacks aimed at derailing Governor Timipre Sylva’s re-election.

Commissioner for Information, Orientation and Strategy, Mr. Nathan Egba, in a statement, said the attack was aimed at creating a feeling of insecurity in the state that would undermine Sylva’s prospects in the forthcoming election.

He said: “Bayelsa State government wishes to condemn in very strong terms, the attack this morning of a circulation van belonging to The Nation newspaper by some unidentified persons around Mbriama who accused the paper of supporting Sylva.

“This no doubt is a new and dangerous dimension on the part of those who are bent on taking power from Governor Sylva by whatever means.

“Their desperation has moved beyond blackmail and rumour mongering to introduction of violence. This is a dangerous trend that will only bring misery to our people and create an air of insecurity and fear in our hitherto peaceful State.

“Governor Sylva is aware of the plans by some opponents to make the state appear lawless to give the impression of lack of effective governance.”

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/11/%E2%80%98attack-on-the-nations-vehicle-aimed-at-sylva/

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=792679.msg9455423#msg9455423 date=1320104584]calm oga beaf. What Ijaw territory are you talking about ? Do you mean the some Ijaws that called Aworis, Mahin and Ilaje Ijaws ?

Even in this Ondo, some Apoi Ijaws would "HATE" if you call them Ijaw. Go read about Abike Dabiri, SR owner and co.

This Arogbo Ijaws are probably Migrates or so. Let me remain you that Ilajes are also in delta state and there land contribute 10% in the Oil reserve in delta.

Moreover Lagos state has offshore crude oil so this is not about Oil as you preserve it to be. Clearly there would be adjustment of territories but I can tell you know that if the Itsekiris DECIDE they want to be SW then I believe in the name of justice that they are given that request. It is only fair I mean the Ijaws left SW at there own accord so why can itsekiris leave SS.

any explanation ?[/quote]Maybe when you finish chewing grass you can divine how your dream is possible?
Nairaland is just a place that allows people talk crap about what they don't know. Tell me how anyone can cross Ijaw territory with that foolishness.

It seems they were just offering a gentle warning to the editors and owners of the Nation. Boys no de talk too much for dat side.

Even in places like Europe, I have been stopped several times by the police and asked where I am going, where I am coming from and what I am going to do. Those are standard police questions all over the World, Nigeria is not a lawless jungle where anything goes.

The police are well within their rights and duties to ask you where you are going and what for and if your answer is not satisfactory, to lock you away from sunlight.

You people keep on licking your arses about Itsekiri's joining the SW. It will never ever happen.
I don't even know how you people think. Even if there are some people foolish enough to want to be an oil bearing minority in a strange land, are they going to jump over Ijaw territory into the SW? Abi no be Ijaw people de Ondo state apart from Yoruba?

I just keep hearing this foolish stuff echoing and re-echoing on NL and somehow, boko harem is always involved.

They are in a desperate battle to save themselves and Bankole. This looks like the first moves in the battle of all battles.

Lagos states debt is unsustainable; its not like they are doing anything to generate more money than they already have. I don't see anything to ease the business environment of incubate high turnover businesses. Everything Fashola has done (aside from the moribund Eko Atlantic), is cosmetic; nothing wealth generating; thats the reason Lagos is at the forefront of subverting the meaning of fiscal federalism to mean even more money into the Abuja begging bowl.

States like Kaduna and Katsina are even worse. God alone knows why they owe so much.

[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=793686.msg9455249#msg9455249 date=1320101627]^
That aside, with the exception of Lagos, most of the borrowing probably happened during 8 years of PDP rule in those SW states. They def didn't borrow all that between April and today.

Didn't Gbenga Daniel try to raise some 500m bond shortly before he left?[/quote]Really? Aregbesola has just borrowed 25billion. It will show up at the end of the year, when Osun will hit $231,998,666.667 (beginning to threaten Lagos).
Up Aregbe!

Uselessness in practice.