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Eziachi:Abeg, try to talk reasonably. Is Al Qaeda not a political tool? Do you really understand what the term, political tool means? You were there too, justifying the post-election riots even when your own people were deliberately targeted and slaugtered. Keep on defending Atiku. Every terrorist group is a political tool. Today, we have Al Qaeda in Nigeria, precisely because people like behave as if they are not Nigerians, blaming others for the very problems that you are causing. Some Nigerians will continue arguing blindly even when the truth stares them in the face. |
Lol! Abuse GEJ if you like, it doesn't affect me one bit. I am only concerned with what you people portray of Nigerian morals to the outside World (which NL is). Abuse GEJ if you like jare! The fact is that even those who are on your side like the OP are revulsed and violated. Abuse all you like because you lost elections, you lost business as usual (I bet loads of you are from the petroleum sector and PHCN LOL!), because GEJ is not a Muslim, Yoruba, hausa (or whatever). Its a sore losers game that is beginning to backfire. |
slinkky:He has not failed, far from it. Azazi is NSA; I only see his hand strengthening, especially giving the current situation with boko haram; he is developing strong international links with the CIA, FBI, Mi5, MOSSAD etc. He will also be the moderniser of our security services; that process has already begun. Because of the nature of the North, it would be useful to have one of their own on side. Unlike IBB and the other clods, Gusau's deep tentacles can be trusted. Gusau has also worked as NSA for GEJ in the past; there are keys he has that can reach into the mosques where a lot of the current problems are fomented; he is Fulani and a Muslim. By extension, he can reach people who can counter boko haram; so there is wisdom in the security services reaching out to him. |
Please fellow NLers, if you don't know what the benefits of a satellite are then DO NOT POST. You are making the country sound like the population loves to live in the stone age. Its always best to sit back in silence and learn when a topic is out of your realm; its called wisdom. The economic and technological benefits of satellite technology are immeasurable, but it seems almost a waste of time opening a discussion about such when the most vocal here cannot even fathom what a satellite does. |
The thread is about respecting your country by not insulting our President like a pack of fools. The Presidential seat is hallowed and revered ground; what you are really doing is insulting yourselves, because he rules over you and speaks for you. The saddest aspect is that some of you are in your mid 50's, 60's and 70's; a truly shameless bunch indeed. What example do you wish to give the teenagers among us? All those who are sad that I am more verbally agile and mentally supreme to them them can go walk in a deep lake. Poor sad souls and followers of rascals and one-eyed snake oil salesmen! Instead of rolling in pain that your mentors have been aptly described by Beaf, why not take up the challenge to quote where Beaf ever abused a sitting President in all my time on NL, from Yar Adua to GEJ? |
Gbawe:Lol! The gentleman liar is at it again! Your stories about why you are so gutter mouthed change every blessed day. --shakes head and walks away-- |
maclatunji:Suddenly, he admits its political! Why the descent to outright lies and foolish talk earlier then? |
^ Who would expect anything else from IBB's son? Dude, nobody is coming to daddy for advice ok? LOLZZZZ!!! IBB is irrelevant, let there be no sentiment about it. Feelers have gone out to Gusau, not the guy thats exchanging words about who is a fool or not at 70. If IBB likes, he can send a thousand of his kids all over the web to seek relevance, its just such a waste of time. He's so yesterday. ![]() |
Big B1:Everybody likes their dad, even if they are demons from the pits of hell. We understand where you are coming from, but IBB is irrelevant until forever. The best he can do is take out his frustrations in shameless, open air, free to watch, street fights with Obj. |
maclatunji:Why is it that your posts always strive so hard to be unintelligent? Its a mystery. |
[quote author=haka_nai link=topic=749106.msg9054325#msg9054325 date=1314877426]LOL!SSPA ![]() Who should know better than the pioneer founding fathers of MEND.Atleast they know how and why they formed MEND.Its there common type of sense they are trying to transfer to meet there kinda view. Even the Northern elites are weary and scared.They may have kept quiet not because they support them but probably because they have little vested interest in the current government too.They don't care since if they mind there own no harm will come to them both ways.Its more like i don't sponsor and support.Let me be.The more reason it is possible to tackle the situation.If all can be brought on board, not just the constant blaming of the north for everything.Demonizing all that is north,as if nothing bad exist in the south.When i say bring on board i mean pal together to up root the treat since it could be there common foe.I think if the elites support the group then this would have being child's play.The elite doesn't care that's all.Even at that is just some of them not all.I know alot of them are paddy paddy with GEJ and have no cause to worry or report his detractors to him straight up.That is if such significant support exist I doubt if BH is political.Call it fanatically religious.Al-qaida has always had a crush for Nigeria.We also have extremists and a disgruntled sect in boko haram with strong ideology and a quest to cause mayhem.Such reasons are good qualities for recruitment.[/quote]MEND was created by ND people, nobody even bothers to argue the fact. Why would grown adults argue that boko haram is not a core-Northern, extremist Islam terrorist thing? Boko haram is a political tool, just as al-qaeda is. The political nature of the quest is immediately obvious from their quest for an Islamic country based on sharia. That it is a tool created by the core-Northern elite can be gleaned from the way its leaders were murdered from orders from high up. We can argue even further that the bombing of the UN ties in more with the the threats from core-Northern leaders to make Nigeria ungovernable than it does with any religious goals. More than anything, history has thrown up certain recurring facts about how religion is used as a political tool by the core-Northern elite, examples abound; before the elections, people were openly told in the mosques and on street corners not to vote for an infidel; sharia was brought in to checkmate Obasanjo when refused to dance to the core-Northern tune (that anger remains as evidenced from IBB's recent outburst). Yes, boko haram is a political tool. I am afraid though, that with the involvement of al-qaeda, the snake is about to bite its charmer. |
maclatunji:Yes it does matter, and thats why people like you get jittery and start lying like water when the question is raised. If you think it doesn't matter, you would also think the same does not apply to al-qaeda. |
maclatunji:This is totally stup!d. Where have I suggested anything on this thread? Why do you tell lies so easily? |
Nigerian Conspirationists Are As Dumb As A RockTitle corrected. ![]() |
Big B1:Crap. You can wish the best for your man, but he has been sidelined and will remain a politically irrelevant, grumpy old fool at 70 until doomsday. IBB is best advised to look after his grand kids. |
hercules07:This is not strictly true. Lets go over how the awalla (hawalla) system works; [list] [li]A guy in Iran wants to send money to his cousin in Nigeria[/li] [li]He contacts an awalla trader/businessman[/li] [li]The awalla trader/businessman contacts a colleague in the cousins town[/li] [li]Colleague gives cash amount to guy's cousin[/li] [li]Businessman in Iran exports goods to colleague in Nigeria, who gets some of the goods for free as payment[/li] [li]There is no paper work, nor physical transfer of cash from Iran[/li] [/list] Simple, but deadly. How do you trace the sums sent by such methods, especially when things take a sinister turn and all parties want to leave no traces? |
[size=14pt]Boko Haram a “political tool” ?[/size] On September 1, 2011 · In People & Politics , By Ochereome Nnanna The bombing of the United Nations building in Abuja by a suicide attacker (it was clearly a suicide attack) has resurrected the South South People’s Assembly, SSPA, or at least some of its elements. A day after the August 27, 2011 hit which claimed over 23 lives, the SSPA, which has been silent of late met in Port Harcourt under its Chairman, Ambassador Matthew Mbu. Retired Justice Adolphus Karibi-White and Dr Kalada Iruenabere later joined Mbu to issue a statement reiterating the widely held notion that today’s Boko Haram is more a political tool than the rag-tag group founded and led by the late Mohammed Yusuf. The group described those allegedly behind today’s Boko Haram as “power hungry merchants and economic parasites” that have been orchestrating violence in Northern Nigeria. They warned that the group would lose more if they pushed the country to the brink of war, adding: “Let all those sponsoring these acts of terrorism know that while it is easy to tell the beginning of a war, no one can tell its end”. They also added they do not believe that the Boko Haram of today is the same as the original one led by Yusuf. If you examine the Boko Haram phenomenon at close quarters, tying up some loose ends in our recent political history, you might be led to this same conclusion. When Yusuf came up with his group in 2009, President Umaru Musa Yar’ Adua was still fit enough to order a military campaign that squelched it with the leader captured alive and extra-judicially executed. Between July 2009 and the beginning of the 2010/2011 political season, all was calm from Boko Haram. In the build-up to the April general elections of this year, there was an intense series of power struggles between some political leaders from the North and President Goodluck Jonathan. Jonathan was running for president on the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP, platform, but some members of the party from the North reminded him that Yar’ Adua occupied only about 29 months out of the “rightful” eight years of the “turn of the North” in the party’s rotational presidency/zoning mechanism. When the President ignored this argument, first a Northern gang-up against his candidacy was contrived, but it failed to stop him at the PDP primaries. Majority of the North’s voters lined up behind General Muhammadu Buhari’s Congress for Progressive Change, CPC, for the presidential election which Jonathan won. At the National Stakeholders Conference of the Northern Leaders Political Forum, NPLF, on December 16, 2010 attended by the who-is-who of the Forum, former Vice President Atiku Abubakar and consensus candidate of the Malam Adamu Ciroma group threatened as follows: “Let me, again, send another message to the leadership of our country, especially our political leadership: Those who make peaceful change impossible make violent change inevitable”. It was after the conclusion of the PDP primaries in Abuja on Thursday, January 13, 2011 that the Boko Haram gradually resumed its gruesome comeback. It attacked police, military and security personnel and facilities in Maiduguri and environs. This intensified after Jonathan won the presidential election in April 2011 and in June the hit on police headquarters in Abuja prompted the ongoing military response. Unlike in the past when military expeditions quickly brought such menace to heel, the activities of the new Boko Haram have actually graduated to suicide attacks. Today’s “Boko Haram” is faceless and has no known leaders. It is more like what the Movement for the Emancipation of Niger Delta (MEND) became after its leader, Henry Okah, was arrested. But even at that, we still heard of such other “generals” as Tompolo, Boyloaf, Ateke Tom, Farrah Dagogo and others, all masquerading behind “MEND”, with “Cynthia White” or “Jomo Gbomo” signing their press releases. Structurally, the new “Boko Haram” does not have a semblance of other groups around the world linked to Al Qaeda. The Al Qaeda in Islamic Maghreb, AQIM, was founded by Mokhtar Belmokhtar in Algeria after it pulled away from its original identity with Hassan Hattab’s Salafist Group for Call and Combat, SGPC. Its theatres of operation include Algeria, Mali, Mauritania, Chad and Senegal. The Somali Al Shabaab militia also affiliated to Al Qaeda has as its leaders Sheikh Mukhtar Robow and Hassan Dahir Aweys. Leading a faction of foreign fighters is Mukhtar Abu Zubeyr. And of course, the original Boko Haram leader, Mohammed Yusuf, was well known even before he was captured. By general tradition, Islamic militants never conceal the identity of their leaders. Even when Osama Bin Laden was killed in Pakistan on May 2 this year, his successor and former number two, Ayman Zawahiri, was unveiled to the world. These militant groups cannot tactically afford to hide the identity of their leaders because the suicide fighters need their “inspiration”; and the disclosure of identity is a statement in courage and defiance. But the new “Boko Haram” has no known leader or leaders, not even one with an assumed name. Their mode of operation is more like a copycat of MEND’s methods. The thinking pattern seems to be to copy closely the MEND’s method through which it was able to wrest the presidency for Jonathan, their kinsman. There are those who allege that should this group succeed in, somehow or the other, driving Jonathan out of power and a Northerner finds himself in Aso Villa the attacks might cease almost immediately, just as MEND’s has since done. The possible political nature of the new “Boko Haram” campaigns appears also justified by the containment posture the Presidency seems to have adopted. Spokespersons of security agencies long ago disclosed that they knew those behind the bombings, though conclusive evidence was still being gathered for a watertight case. Perhaps, the Presidency is hoping that since this method was adopted to escort the “Sharia” phenomenon to expire itself, it will also work in this case. Perhaps, it is being reasoned that a frontal engagement with those behind the attacks could backfire politically. Whatever the issue is, it needs to be noted that the nation may be brought to the brink of ethnic and religious disaster if the perpetrators of the bombings take their sick venture beyond certain bounds. If this happens, then nobody can predict what will follow, as indeed, those who start wars hardly know how they will end. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/09/boko-haram-a-political-tool/ |
[quote author=PROUD-IGBO link=topic=749081.msg9051642#msg9051642 date=1314837774]But of course you wouldn't hear of these atrocities against black Africans being reported in the western media. After all it's blacks being massacred, and besides it not being newsworthy, its also acceptable collateral damage for their governments to get their bloodstained hands on Libyan resources the way they've gotten Iraqs'. Watch how nothing will come of all this, as mass graves will be dug to hide the evidence or blame it on Ghadafi and his sons. Part of me is angry with any black that went to or remained in that rascist Godforsaken country when the (INDUCED/TELEGUIDED) uprising started earlier this year. But then, i can't really blame them as i don't know the kind of desperation that drove them to go to such a hostile country in the first place. A place that treats blacks as slaves and worse than animals. These rascist Libyans would be thanking whatever devil they worship for the opportunity this uprising has presented them to horn their shooting skills on any black Africans they can find. Evil people to the core. It's our leaders i blame: if not for the way our countries economies have been ran aground, with desperation and hopelessness being the lot of majority of black Africans, we wouldn't have found ourselves in this situation to begin with. May God help us!!![/quote]So how come I watched an expose on the killing of blacks in Libya on CNN? Ain't they Western? We need to kill this weak cries against the West, it is immoral and gets quite annoying after some time. |
hercules07:They use underground Islamic finance methods that cannot be traced by electronics. IMHO, the only way they can be watched is through their communications; all those that made those strange apologies to boko haram need to be watched to check if they are sending coded messages in the open, through the press. |
Presidency contacts Gusau, others Worried by escalating attacks by the Boko Haram insurgents, the presidency is reported to have established contacts with retired security chiefs, top among whom is the former National Security Adviser, General Aliyu Gusau.http://tribune.com.ng/index.php/front-page-news/27585-un-house-bombing-sss-declares-mohammed-nur-prime-suspect-wanted-arrests-2-others-presidency-contacts-gusau-others-soldiers-now-presidential-bodyguards |
[size=14pt]Suicide bombing: FG uncovers ‘political Boko Haram’ •Alleged sponsors under close watch •CIA, SSS, Mi5, MOSSAD, KGB move in [/size]http://tribune.com.ng/index.php/front-page-news/27584-suicide-bombing-fg-uncovers-political-boko-haram-alleged-sponsors-under-close-watch-cia-sss-mi5-mossad-kgb-move-in |
Dis Guy:This is really silly and sick. What has North or South got to do with it? In any event, I made the very same call the OP is making several times during Yar Adua's time. Even at the height of the cabal saga, there were many of us that stolidly refused to use foul language on Yar Adua. It takes a special kind of ill-bred fool to insult the President of Nigeria. |
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What part of the article says "beg?" Aside from the dubious headline, the word doesn't even occur even once. |
^ So what do you want them to give you? The name of your dog, bingo? ![]() |
I just kept staring at the image, it is so crisp and beautiful. In the midst of chaos a phoenix is rising. 3 big gboza for 9ja!!!! www.nairaland.com/attachments/515872_Nigeria_SAT_X_image_jpg660c74047b6a7c037d57474dc2c3eaf4 |
^ Abeg, go and sit down jare! Mr inventor. You've been caught blagging, trying to ram shyte down our throats. . . Just that you were caught. Lol! |
homerac7:Dude, I [b]challenged [/b]you because I KNOW that you invented every last word of your argument. I'm just waiting patiently for you to invent your source. . . . Then Gboa!! You know people like me never argue unless we are 100% sure. ![]() Come on. I'm waiting for your "proof"; don't be shy now (even though we both know it doesn't exist). LOLZZZ! |
homerac7:So how come you made two claims that are patently false? 1. That the FG owns the coastline 2. The FG is under obligation to help states experiencing disaster You made these claims without any backup whatsoever. Sorry dude, the onus is on you to prove those spurious claims (mind you coastal waters are quite different in meaning from territorial waters). --Edited-- |
abelian:Lol! homerac7:Stop inventing laws. |
^ Of course, if the FG refuses to help Lagos, the people would feel abandoned and the FG will be unpopular in lag. However, that still does not make it an obligation for the FG to intervene. All I am saying is that the FG's help is not compulsory and thats a fact. This is one of those topics that make the reasonable ones among us think about the deeper aspects of true federalism and what citizen, FG, state and LG obligations should be. |
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