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Politics › Re: S'south, S'east Experts Want Constitutional Conference by Beaf: 5:42am On Aug 07, 2011
My only suggestion for the SS and SE, is that while pushing for an SNC, they should be reaching out to stakeholders like the US and China. They MUST also have a very ready set of arms suppliers and mercenaries.
The reason for the above is very simple; its not worth speaking if not from a point of strength. If you've got the money, flaunt it. Those feeding off our fat need not dictate anything.

Everything offshore and onshore will remain with the states within whose boundaries they fall. There is no "offshore" at Lake Chad, so they get all their land; so will we.
Politics › Re: Al-mustapha's Accusations Was One Sided by Beaf: 5:33am On Aug 07, 2011
stormm:
@Sam Milla,

Where have you been? Miss your jokes!

Now to the post, I guess its a free country and peeps are free to believe whatever shade of opinion that suits their fancy. But I'll rather believe a Falae than a Fasehun, in discountenancing a Mustapha.

What were Fasehun's antecedents in the political arena that qualifies him to be called a Yoruba leader? Started the murderous OPC gang(not different from Boko Haram), he is a 'buyable' leader, fought his assistant Gani Adams over the headship of their OPC gangsters and till today the cause of the frequent mayhem commonplace in Mushin/Isolo. Fasehun's political activities is inimical to the interests of the Yorubas as he is only mindful of what comes to his pockets.

Professionally, he is failed medical doctor.
No, he is an ethnic bigot like most of those he is accusing. Its best to sit back and watch the spectacle unfold, there is only one truth, whether its Al Mustapha's or Falae's. Time will tell, but no attempt should be made to smother the truth, regardless of what it is.
Politics › Re: Yes, Yoruba Leaders Sold Out –Gani Adams by Beaf: 5:04am On Aug 07, 2011
koruji:
Isn't that the outcome you guys hope for. Find an excuse for GEJ to fulfill the deal with the devil to release Al-Mustapha by creating shadows of doubt through innuendo.

Your reverse reasoning holds no water. If he has truth on his side these 13 years he would have presented. You people should not think anybody is deceived by your antics & such irreverence might generate terrible consequences.
Dude, what are you talking about? This is just like some crazy rant. Must everything be about GEJ, did he kill Abiola too?
These events didn't happen yesterday, so please be rational.
Programming › Re: Java Coding Challenge: Task Scheduler by Beaf: 4:54am On Aug 07, 2011
candylips: Implement a task scheduler that recursively schedules a task for execution at exponential time intervals up to a steady state. (i.e 1,2,4,8,16,32, ,  900,900,900 in seconds.) steady state can be any number i.e 900 seconds.


The Task you pass to this scheduler can implement this interface

public interface Task {

void execute() throws Exception;

}
Here's your solution in rebelious ol' C# (yeah, one for the C#, C++, C massive out deh). Short and sweet solution. Lol
You call it like this:

TaskScheduler.Create();


 
   public class TaskScheduler
   {
       public static int timeToRunTask = 1;
       public static int steadyStateSeconds = 900;
       public static void Create()
       {
           if (timeToRunTask < steadyStateSeconds)
           {
               CustomTask customTask = new CustomTask(timeToRunTask);
               customTask.Execute();
               timeToRunTask *= 2;
               Create();
           }
       }
   }

   public class CustomTask : ITask
   {
       public int TimeToRunTask;
       public CustomTask(int timeToRunTask)
       {
           TimeToRunTask = timeToRunTask;
       }
       public void Execute()
       {
           if(TimeToRunTask == 0)//any ol' test would do here. Lol!
               throw new Exception();
           //simulate task running for TimeToRunTask length of time
           //System.Threading.Thread.Sleep(TimeToRunTask * 1000);
           Console.WriteLine(TimeToRunTask);
       }
   }

   public interface ITask
   {
       void Execute();
   }
Programming › Re: Java Coding Challenge: Task Scheduler by Beaf: 4:50am On Aug 07, 2011
candylips:
Great Job !

its looking like you are the only one that will attempt this challenge

Yea i will need the syntax highlighter to post my solution
That might have a lot to do with your restricting the challenge to Java. In the meantime, we Java anti-evangelists be plenty indeed! grin
Politics › Re: Yes, Yoruba Leaders Sold Out –Gani Adams by Beaf: 2:33am On Aug 07, 2011
Both Dr. Fasheun and Gani Adams have been very consistent with their claims. There has to be something worth investigating.
Obviously, Al Mustapha is keeping everyone in suspense with the hope that some of the guilty persons would set influencial phones ringing and spring him out of jail. That must not be allowed to happen; since the man made his claims under oath, he must be forced to prove them. The days of highwire, "Nigeria is in my pocket" games are over.
Politics › Re: Beaf:why Is Fidelity Bank With The Lowest Bank Branch,not In Problem. by Beaf: 2:26am On Aug 07, 2011
Wetin konsain Beaf wit Fidelity Bank? shocked

Musiwa, Musiwa, Musiwa!!! How may times I call you so? E be like say your meresine don finis. embarassed embarassed embarassed
Politics › Re: It’s Bad To Put Mubarak In Cage – Obasanjo (fear Dey Catch Dem Small Small) by Beaf: 1:56pm On Aug 05, 2011
buzugee:
nobody is beyond being caged grin thats the problem with africans. there is no sanctity in presidential positions and if you abuse it, you get caged. this is a visual deterrent. if everyone in africa is as docile as you 'sanctity of presidency' guys on NL then no wonder african leaders continue to overstep their bounds because they know docile africans believe in the sanctity and dignity of their presidents. there is a reason why america is what it was (they lock all their politicians in jail who mess up. when i lived in illinois, all their previous governors and mayors were in jail for minor offences (i call them minor because they involved tashere fraud compared to how africans steal billions ))
Would you ever dream of seeing a European ex-president in a cage, even if he was the worst of tyrants?
Those guys know how to operate really smoothly. I can imagine if they had to execute someone (which they don't), it would be like:

Would you kindly shut your eyes sir? This might hurt a bit, but we are doing our best to guarantee your rights and ensure your smooth transition; if you care, we might show you the expected trajectory of the bullet. Are you positioned comfortably, or do you wish to voice any objections? Would you like a cup of tea sir?

Thats how things should be done. We can't continue the agricultural behaviour portrayed in Nollywood movies, it doesn't tell well.
Politics › Re: Privatisation Has Failed, Says Jonathan by Beaf: 1:44pm On Aug 05, 2011
^
GEJ has said everything you are saying. So whats new?
I bet you are simply reading the article or scouring the web for what GEJ said and then reciting it right back in "outrage."

. . .Tiring.
Politics › Re: 1999 Constitution: FG Plans 50 Sections For Amendment by Beaf(op): 1:35pm On Aug 05, 2011
^
I will back up my argument with your own words:

As a simple example: The United States comprises people from every part of the world, immigrants, decendants of conquistadors and slaves, few indigenous tribes, etc. However the United States remains a coherent nation-state because there is a supervening common world-view and culture that stamps the US with its unique identity as a nation-state. That world-view is based on the ideals of freedom and capitalism.
Every last word of the above is correct. What is most important is the bolded; those twin pillars on which the US is built are derived and directly driven by her constitution, the rights and guarantees it affords the individual and their duties to the state. Every US citizen instinctively reaches for the constitution when they are threatened; it is an almost religious thing, citizens of no other country act that way.
The American world-view is built off their constution, which is the foundation of US society. The US is a great example of how disparate peoples, colours and religions have been successfully forged into a unit by a legal document. Nigeria can follow suit.
Politics › Re: 1999 Constitution: FG Plans 50 Sections For Amendment by Beaf(op): 12:49pm On Aug 05, 2011
Deep Sight:
^^^ To the extent that he speaks of a dominant culture, he has a point, and you have misunderstood him. He specifically stated that that culture must be a pot pouri of the various ethnic cultures.

It is beyond cavil that every coherent nation-state must have a dominant culture. By this I believe he refers to a supervening national world view which stamps the nation state with a given identity.

As a simple example: The United States comprises people from every part of the world, immigrants, decendants of conquistadors and slaves, few indigenous tribes, etc. However the United States remains a coherent nation-state because there is a supervening common world-view and culture that stamps the US with its unique identity as a nation-state. That world-view is based on the ideals of freedom and capitalism.

Thus that forms the plank for the dominant culture. If there were no dominant culture, the nation-state would lack cohesion, would lack direcvtion and would also lack an identity. It would have a personality crisis and would be schizophrenic. Such is the dilemma Nigeria has, and the gentleman had a strong point in so saying.
What you are attempting to describe is a contract between citizen and state, not a dominant culture. It is a contract that establishes the responsibilities and duties of both parties (state and citizen) in concrete. In the US, it is a legal document they lean on, their constitution. If Nigeria is able to generate changes in the areas the govt is thinking about, in such a way that the people, their ethnicities, religions etc are carried along, then Nigeria would have successfully forged a citizen-state contract that engenders a sense of belonging in every citizen. Today, there is nothing to point at as the definition for the word, Nigerian; the place is just a piece of land our parents happened to be born on.
Politics › Re: Al-mustapha’s Video Fails To Indict Ige, Adesanya, Others by Beaf: 12:37pm On Aug 05, 2011
olawalebab:
I dont see what is there to bargain for, if he has it, release it. After 12 years in the dungeon. what is there again to fear.
It is certain from the way he is behaving that anything he has to release would implicate him as well. Thats my reading.
Since he has little to lose, he is now playing a game of dare. So, he drops the names of a couple of dead guys and a General who is in poor health, he mentions he gave an increminating tape (which he possibly has copies of) to Obj. Then he namedrops Ribadu who is in Afghanistan. The only really serious name thats present in the country is Mike Okiro.
Al Mustapha might have enough to blackmail several people with in the hope that they will "negotiate" and pull strings, but because of the high stakes, he is likely to have to risk all (both his freedom and his life).
Politics › Re: Al-mustapha’s Video Fails To Indict Ige, Adesanya, Others by Beaf: 12:23pm On Aug 05, 2011
Al Mustapha might have some secrets. He is playing a very high risk "bargaining" game, it will end in a memorable, but unpredictable way.
Politics › Re: Privatisation Has Failed, Says Jonathan by Beaf: 11:30am On Aug 05, 2011
^
Poor thing.
---Beaf breaks down in tears, weeping profusely for "you know who."--- LOLZZZ!!!

I wonder what it feels like to take a mans arguments, recite them right back to him and wonder if people think you are clever or honest?
Damn! shocked grin
Politics › Re: Privatisation Has Failed, Says Jonathan by Beaf: 11:10am On Aug 05, 2011
Gbawe:
Dude , get lost.  You are a clown . Stop following me around with the intention of derailing threads mischievously . I have proven, countless times, you are simply an 'Olodo'. Leave this thread and let informed folks discuss free of your shameless and bellicose need to seek attention .
Lol!
"Stop following me!" "Leave this thread!". . . I wonder if you realise how you sound? Like a hunter desperately grasping at rats.

Have you worked in a motorpack at some point in life? Sad.
Politics › Re: Privatisation Has Failed, Says Jonathan by Beaf: 10:48am On Aug 05, 2011
Gbawe:
You are lying as usual in your attempt to shift blame away from the FG and thus GEJ. Even in my endeavours ,as a private individual, I have been able to interest a very well-known and award winning UK electronics retailer in a franchised arrangement in Nigeria. The main problem is that the Nigerian Government always shun dealings with Companies who will deliver the goods if said Company is not dodgy enough to 'play ball' the 'Nigerian way' . That is the level of rapacious greed we are dealing with that is holding us back and not readily seen elsewhere.

The Nigerian Government is not ready to give the business guarantees, incentives , pledges and assurances that can attract the best Companies with a proven history of efficiency. This is because , after all is said and done, our "owners" don't want to be accountable and they certainly don't want to work with folks who only know how to do things with total integrity. Our security situation and infrastructural deficiency is a direct turn off but I have found , through personal experience , that many companies will seriously consider the model of far greater profit commensurate with taking more risks and putting up with more difficult conditions. That is what business is about.

Let us say the truth and shame the devil. Successive PDP President have simply used privatization directives as a way to make themselves ,and others , billionaires rather than as an Avenue to seriously begin the drive to move Nigeria forward by ensuring the most competent hands from the private sector are deployed .
You obviously love the sound of your own voice, even to the extent of crudely accusing others of lying. I'm wondering what you are going on and on for, anybody listening to you would think you were the one that advised GEJ that the privatisation methods govt uses need straigtening out, because they don't work.

Is there anything new you are bringing to the table? No, its just the usual partisan dust. If you want to oppose for the sake of it, why not argue that privatisation was successful, instead of daftly reading GEJ's arguments back to him as if they are original to you.
Politics › Re: yuyuy by Beaf: 8:42am On Aug 05, 2011
greateros:
Seriously is it not time the ogoni people sue the federal government for all this damages?
Ogoni land is very small, think of what will happen when UN investigations spread across the entire ND. Dude, the nation will grind to a complete halt, because there will be no money to pay. Past govts sold Nigeria to Shell for a pittance, now its payback time.

The $1billion costs over 5 years in Ogoni land is for clean up only, there is an avalanche of compensation law suits that will follow this judgement. We have seen the end of Shell operations in Nigeria, I don't see how they can continue.
Politics › Re: As A Senator In 1992, I Was Earning N6,500 Per Month by Beaf(op): 8:03am On Aug 05, 2011
oyb:
offtopic - speaking of dimeji whatever happened to the much publicized arrest just before gej's visit to yankee

was that fresh hot air
The matter is before the courts.
A lot of you stones and rocks know nothing about civilisation and due process. Nigeria is being rescued from the jungle it has historically been were people get lynched and burned alive, get an education about what human rights in democratic society means. I'm curious to hear your crude suggestion.

Now, back to topic.
Politics › Re: It’s Bad To Put Mubarak In Cage – Obasanjo (fear Dey Catch Dem Small Small) by Beaf: 3:10am On Aug 05, 2011
It was really disturbing to see Mubarak treated that way. All the mind could think of was Saddam. There might be no good in the likes of both Saddam and Mubarak, however issues of state require decorum, gravitas and cerebral application. Mubaraks treatment stinks of the methods of despotic dictators, yet the Egyptian are groaning for democracy. Madness doesn't give birth to civility.

The man led the country, so trussing him up or caging him is the same as his prosecutors spitting on their own countries image. When a country reaches for crude means to resolve a problem, nobody expects civility, peace and progress as the outcomes. Saddam was hurriedly hanged like a chicken in public, but Iraq is all the worse for it, more divided, dangerous and backward than it ever was.

Crude methods are highly visible and and 99% of the time, just for show; while ugliness and murky deeds are buried in the blood lusting animal instincts of the baying mob.
I fear for the future of Egypt, it is easy to see that Mubarak is a sacrifice for the continuation of the same old wicked Egyptian powers that be. That countries future is bleak.
Politics › Re: "Thank God We're Not Nigerians" New Hit Song From Ghanian Singers by Beaf: 2:42am On Aug 05, 2011
[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=728064.msg8857780#msg8857780 date=1312507501]i doubt i've ever heard more s.tupid lines than these.

and i've heard quite a few.

that oyibo parody about nigeria was better than this one though.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-695179.0.html[/quote]Lol!

[flash=640,510]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzbvPa5npmo[/flash]
Politics › Re: As A Senator In 1992, I Was Earning N6,500 Per Month by Beaf(op): 2:28am On Aug 05, 2011
[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=728055.msg8857699#msg8857699 date=1312505327]If you are insinuating that I am defending Senators' salaries, I am not. It suffices to say that their current salary is not excessive, the excesses are found in allowances and quarterly, unconstitutional payments they make to themselves. By the way, my numbers are on the conservative side, 400% inflation is an understatement - for example a you could buy a brand new car in 1992 for N6500. I know say you be small boy, so you have no idea. olodo[/quote]Until you do the same math for labourers, doctors, teachers, drivers etc, we wouldn't get anywhere. There is no need for any special math that suits NASS members.

By the way Segun Baju makes it quite clear that N6,500 represents ALL he got, no hidden perks or "chocolates." Now how do you explain this bomb:

Check out this email I received detailing the outrageous figures paid to a Nigeria Senator. Little wonder why everyone in Nigeria has political ambitions and will do whatever it takes to get there.

Basic Salary (BS) – N2,484,245.50

Hardship Allowance @ 50% of Basic Salary – N1,242,122.70 (I love this kind of hardship)

Constituency allowance @ 200% of BS - N4,968,509.00

Furniture Allowance @ 300% of BS – N7,452,736.50

Newspaper allowance @ 50% – N1,242,122.70 (Which kind newspaper be this, abi na online or hard copy?)

Wardrobe allowance @ 25% – N621,061.37

Recess Allowance @ 10% – N248,424.55

Accommodation @ 200% – N4,968,509.00

Utilities @ 30% – N828,081.83

Domestic Staff @ 35% – N863,184.12

Entertainment @ 30% – N828,081.83

Personal Assistance @ 25% – N621,061.37

Vehicle Maintenance Allowance @ 75% – N1,863,184.12

Leave Allowance @ 10% – N248,424.55

One off payments (Severance gratuity) @ 300% – N7,452,736.50 (Once they get fired.)

Motor Vehicle Allowance @ 400% of BS – N9,936,982.00 – Every Four Years

Senator’s Salary per month – N2,456,647.70
Total = N29,479,749.00 Per Year
Allowance of Nigerian Senator: $1,500,000/year
GDP of Nigerian Economy: $45 Billion/year


A feeding frenzy!!!
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!

Compare with this -

Salary of the U.S. President: $250,000/year
GDP of the U.S. Economy: $13 Trillion/year
What do these Senators do to deserve this pay?


Amazingly, I saw a recent news video on YouTube of Nigeria senators in a session demanding an increase to their yearly allowance. These guys want a whopping N30 million every month.

Most of the Pharmacists, Engineers, Lawyers, Doctors, Welfare coordinators, Teachers/Lecturers, Engineers, Civil Servants and other productive professionals cannot boast of N1 million per year. What a pity !!!

SAY NO TO THIS OPEN LOOTING OF NIGERIA.
SEND A LINK OF THIS POST TO ALL PATRIOTIC NIGERIANS.
http://www.peterokali.com/2010/08/02/this-really-stinks-nigeria-senators-salary-package-2/

Of course we know that the likes of Dimeji were getting N100,000,000.00 before perks. Dimeji Bankole "managed" with a miserly 1.6billion Naira per annum, I wonder what math can moralise that? embarassed
Politics › Re: As A Senator In 1992, I Was Earning N6,500 Per Month by Beaf(op): 1:42am On Aug 05, 2011
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Are you defending "something?" grin grin grin

Put away those voodoo figures sir; or better still, apply them to a labourers wage. After that, tell me if labourers are doing better these days. Apply your calculation to teachers, doctors wages etc and give us your report. NASS members are not special beings.
Politics › Re: "Thank God We're Not Nigerians" New Hit Song From Ghanian Singers by Beaf: 1:36am On Aug 05, 2011
[quote author=Sisi_Kill link=topic=728064.msg8857650#msg8857650 date=1312504190]Nice conciliatory words grin[/quote]Really? You possibly need help.
I am truly ashamed that any African could sing this:

Always in traditional wear everywhere
Haven’t you hear of Armani wear
Thank God we’re not a Nigerians
Its a pathetic case of inferiority complex. How can anyone choose what is foreign over their own culture? That is why most African's outside of Nigerians feel lost and are useless to themselves. In a thousand years, Ghana would never have been able to push Nollywood, all their movies are like fake British soaps. Dry, boring and silly.

Nigerians are teaching Africans what it is like to be proud of your own culture and not feel inferior like you do.
Politics › Re: "Thank God We're Not Nigerians" New Hit Song From Ghanian Singers by Beaf: 1:26am On Aug 05, 2011
Poor Ghanaians and their lil insignificant country. Its sad to see how their jealousy is causing them such unhappiness.
Which Nigerian has the time to sing about Ghana? Boys get levels and our swagger too tight. cool

Instead of Hamburger or Pizza with ham
You eat Egusi with pounded yam
Thank God we’re not Nigerians
Lol! The life of a wannabe! Sad low self esteemed oyibo arse lickers.
Sports › Re: Formula 1 Grand Hotel - 2011 Season by Beaf(op): 1:18am On Aug 05, 2011
I wonder how Alonso lovers can claim that McLaren was somehow biased against Alonso. It has always been McLarens policy to give both drivers equality, and by God! Have we not seen some exciting wheel bangers from Lewis and Jenson, this season and last?

Alonso just couldn't stand the fact that he was slower, he's only half the man that Jenson is.
Politics › Re: Team Jonathan- It Isn't That Bad by Beaf: 12:58am On Aug 05, 2011
oolumide:
This team is not as bad as Nigerians made it look or sound, what do you think.
It is Buhari people that can't take defeat in a gentlemanly way that go around thumbing their noses at what is an impressive team of people. There is also another group of ethnically bigoted ACN folk who forgot about their own Aregbesola who is in his 9th month without a single commissioner, while disturbing Fashola's great work in Lagos.

Its just Nigeria's primitive politics at work.
Politics › As A Senator In 1992, I Was Earning N6,500 Per Month by Beaf(op): 12:47am On Aug 05, 2011
[size=14pt]As a senator in 1992, I was earning N6,500 per month [/size]
Written by Abiodun Awolaja Friday, 05 August 2011

https://tribune.com.ng/images/stories/website_images/baju.jpg
Segun Bamigbetan Baju

Chief Segun Bamigbetan Baju, former senator and  former Ambassador to the Republic of Cuba, Honduras, Nicaragua and the Commonwealth of the Bahamas, spoke with Abiodun Awolaja at the Ifaki-Ekiti country home of former Governor Segun Oni  last Friday, on the political gathering at his (Oni’s) mother’s burial, Nigeria’s foreign policy, the controversy over the remuneration of  National Assemblymembers, and sundry issues.

DURING the burial ceremony of Madam Comfort Oni, mother of Chief  Segun Oni, we have seen an outpouring of goodwill and emotions across party lines. What is your  comment on that?
Well, certainly  we have seen tremendous outpouring of love, respect and  goodwill towards Chief  Segun Oni, the immediate past governor of  Ekiti State, who is a very good friend. More importantly, he is a decent  Nigerian, well educated, and a polished politician. I’m amazed myself to see  the composition of the attendance  that we had today(last Friday); there were at least four past and present governors of Ekiti State, starting from Niyi Adebayo, Ayodele Fayose;  of  course, Oni the host, and also the current governor, Kayode  Fayemi. Also, former Governor Osarhimen Osunbor of Edo State, senators, past and present, members of the House of Representatives and leaders of political parties, were all represented.

I was particularly touched by what the Prelate of the Methodist Church, Dr Ola Makinde, said. He said, “This is a demonstration of love, and Ekiti is starting it for Nigeria.’’ Regardless of partisan views, we all came together to give mama  a befitting burial, and that is a lesson for us all  to learn because we all put politics aside. We just came to pay our  last respects  to  a wonderful Nigerian,  who had done so well for her children. And, of course, that is why we had so many Prelates and Bishops in attendance. It was really a great day.

Would you say that demonstrates the resilience of our culture, because sometimes we seem to have lost touch with the culture, mixing politics with everything?
I think today we have seen the best of our culture. Also, we must not forget the fact that we have seen a lot about the character of Engineer Segun Oni and the goodwill that he enjoys from across Nigeria; you saw  messages from the governor  of Niger State;  from the President and Commander-in-Chief, and from the Senate President.

We have had this issue of people saying that the salaries of senators are too high, without seemingly extending the same criticism to the executive. Is it that there is a conspiracy against the Nigerian legislature, or that the problem is within the National Assembly   itself?
[size=14pt]I think, frankly, you would need to ask the current legislators. I was in the Senate in 1992 and, if I remember correctly, I was earning N6,500 per month.
Per month?

Yes, and that was everything.
As a matter of fact, the Senate President was earning N13,000. Perhaps I have lost touch with what is happening. But then, I think we need to do something about it (the jumbo pay) because if we are leaders of the people, we must not be out of touch with the feelings of the people.[/size]

We must represent their best feelings and aspirations.
Critics of Nigeria’s foreign policy, including the Vice-Chancellor of the Obafemi Awolowo University (OAU), Ile-Ife, Osun State, Professor Bamitale Omole, have said that Nigeria has a Big Brother approach, extending a hand of fellowship which is not reciprocated, especially by the French West-African countries. As a former ambassador, would you say we on the right track?

Well, Nigeria cannot afford not to be the Big Brother in Africa, by virtue of  our sheer  size, population, and endowments. It is a role that we have to play. And, of course, you know that internationally, we play a major role in peace-keeping operations all over the world, not just in Africa. But what needs to be corrected is that we must insist on being treated with the same kind of respect with which we treat our neighbours, our brothers.That is the important point.

On Nigeria’s democracy, we have observed some positive developments. For instance, we have had losers of elections congratulating the winners the moment they were declared. We also had an election that we can say was an improvement on previous ones. Taking a critical look at our democracy, would you say that we are improving?
Certainly, we are improving. But there are so many areas we need to cover. We may not cover everything overnight, but in certain areas, it has been a learning curve for the leaders,  those who are aspiring to lead, and even the populace. The parties that lost now have to go back to the drawing board and ask themselves: ‘’where did we get it wrong?’’ And this is the whole essence of democracy.

The issue of President Goodluck Jonathan proposing a single term for the president and governors has generated a lot of controversy. How do you see it?
Well, the idea of single term has been around for some time, but if you ask me (and I’m not speaking on behalf of my party), I think  there is a lot of credence in the two-term policy, because it gives credit to those who have done well, and it gives the people the opportunity to  change, to correct, people who have been elected but did not perform well.

You see, sometimes (I don’t know whether this is the Nigerian nature) we tend to get so impatient. Those who have designed programmes and policies in their wisdom have done a lot of work and, of course, they must have taken their experiences into consideration. You know, their past experiences must have been instructive in coming up with those policies. But sometimes we, in our haste, jettison such policies, only to come back to them in a few years. I think the idea of two-term for the executive is a very sound one.

We should be more reflective. We have only practised democracy now for just 12 years since the return to civil rule in 1999, and we are already changing the constitution so many times. I don’t  think this is necessary. We need to improve on our institutions; it is the institutions that are failing.

Our judiciary should function. You have seen all that has been going on, all the allegations between judges. It’s unfortunate; we should strengthen  our institutions. The judiciary, police, customs, our power supply agency, should all function. Once we have the agencies functioning, then I don’t think there would be much problems.

Is this a problem of change in values?
If we must be honest with ourselves, we must reflect on how we started. We are operating a borrowed system; this is not our traditional system. It is good, but perhaps we need time to master it.

We already have a culture, and some aspects of our culture are very good and superior . But we are borrowing the ones we think are better. We can’t master it overnight; we have to be a bit patient. At least, we have seen some level of benefit that is better than when we had the military. The people can exercise their rights, vote out bad leaders. We didn’t have that under the military.

Even our civil service is not perfect. The civil service has been there for 50 years or thereabouts, but democracy has only been there for a few years. We need to take a critical look, throw the searchlight on our civil service. Is it functioning at the optimum level? Because, for anybody who is elected as a governor, you need the civil service, you need the technocrats. If that is already a crumbling institution, then something has to be done. Otherwise, you can’t perform even with the best intentions.

Some people have said that politicians are able to perpetrate corruption only because they are aided by civil servants; that if the top directors do not cooperate with you, you cannot steal as a commissioner or minister. In concrete terms, how do we reform the judiciary?
You have said it all. No politician can steal without the cooperation of the civil service. Any politician that does so would simply find himself behind bars. I will give you an example.

In the state of Illinois in the United States, the past three or four governors are in prison. And the last one that was there when Obama was elected— after Obama was elected US President, he was caught on tape negotiating Obama’s vacant senate seat and was impeached. So, let our institutions work. The problem is not the politicians; if anybody does anything wrong, and the institutions are strong enough, he goes to jail, and then that  would put an end to everything.

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Politics › Re: A Bunch Of Good, Strong Presidents For Some Yeye Noisemakers. Lol! by Beaf(op): 12:26am On Aug 05, 2011
abacus:
Buhari is my strong leader any day.

He's even more Igbo/hausa/yoruba/warri etc than you, Beaf (Meat in the hand of GEJ)
I have continued to point out the gaps in your camps grasp of basic issues of governance and civil rectitude. So lets do it with one more scenario.

Buhari spent his earlier years as our ever present petroleum minister, PTF boss and tyranical head of state, he has easily had the most influence on the petroleum sector.
80% of Nigeria's disposable income comes from oil. However, in the past, there was zero effort to determine the exact number of barrels drilled per day. The likes of Shell simply told Nigeria any number they deemed fit, there was no method to check and nobody bothered. "Strong" Nigerian govts like Buhari's simply signed the dotted line, recieved the brown envelope and things were sweet for them, while the populace drowned in poverty and kids with glowing aspirations became almajiri's.


In what country do foreigners tell the govt how much oil it is producing? Running such a system is a gaping hole for corruption and we have seen its fruits.
In what other country on Earth is there no system to account for extracted mineral resources, especially a resource as valuable as oil?

So, how come "strong" Buhari was a main player in the setting up of such an absolutely shambolic system? Or does he just lack the necessary intellectual and moral strength? What do you understand strength to be? Primitive brutishness? Damning levels of stupi'dity or and corruption?

It has taken GEJ's govt to close all loop holes and put in place verifiable procedures to account for every last barrel of oil lifted from Nigerian soil. That sir, is strength.
Politics › Re: A Bunch Of Good, Strong Presidents For Some Yeye Noisemakers. Lol! by Beaf(op): 11:53pm On Aug 04, 2011
maclatunji:
Actually, I have not looked at the constitution as I have told you I don't need to. Read this and think about it "the VP has no real powers" shocked . Maybe if you were Vice President you would not have real powers. If I were Vice President, the powers would be too much. Sheeesh we are talking about the Number 2 citizen of Africa's most populous country here! Wake up!
Yeah, ignorance is power to the simple minded folk who talk about past "strong" leaders in a country on its knees from past horrendous govts.
The vast majority of people would actually get acquainted with a subject, instead of making increasingly louder and more foolish statements.

You never had a clue of what was going on. Dude, daft hysterics and directionless sentimental flapping will never replace engaging your mind. Now that you have failed so publicly, stand back, re-strategise and actually digest the topic at hand. The time for blind followership and harrah singing is over in Nigeria, your type will be relegated to the trash can; it is the new era of the thinking man.
Politics › Re: A Bunch Of Good, Strong Presidents For Some Yeye Noisemakers. Lol! by Beaf(op): 11:44pm On Aug 04, 2011
houvest:
Beaf abeg no kill me with laff. Who be this guy OBJ they feed abeg?
Na Gbenga Daniel be dat. grin
Programming › Re: Programming Challenge. by Beaf: 9:25pm On Aug 04, 2011
It is really sad and upsetting that anyone would come up with such a cheap challenge. embarassed
Please dudes, either make sure to come up with brain crackers, or just ask for coding help.
Politics › Re: The Clock Is Ticking, When Will President Jonathan Start? by Beaf: 9:18pm On Aug 04, 2011

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