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Gbawe:
Are you capable of logical and objective criticism at all? [size=14pt]Aregbesola is giving precise time-line for infrastructural work[/size] that will improve Osun State. That is more than can be said for GEJ and his apologists. Did GEJ not say that he has "no agenda beyond good Governance"? How vague is that?

Yet, rather than give the benefit of the doubt to a leader who has , without deceit or double speak, outlined targets you are here trying to malign the ACN. If some of you are not too far gone in bad belle, hate and ethnic bigotry , the worst you should say is "we will wait and see" because , with Aregbesola's clear time line, you will not have to wait long to resurrect this thread.

You certainly should not be assertively declaring Aregbesola will fail w[b]hen you have no real reasons[/b] to speak so negatively. You and others should be ashamed of yourselves for letting bigotry carry you away to the extent that you cannot even wish others well anymore. Okorocha , for example, is saying a lot of things and I am personally hoping he delivers because Imo is a Nigerian State and the good people of Imo are my fellow Nigerians - not enemies.

A "precise time-line for infrastructural work?". . . Eight bloody months and zero commissioners after taking the mantle?
Damn! By the time the rains are done, Aregbesola, the Omnipotent Singularity and Emperor of Osun would have been on seat for more than a year!

A "precise time-line for infrastructural work?". . . No commissioners and mad talk about exporting yams to Lagos and building a local Oke-Arin! Pure entertainment, only its tragic.

Hunu go take laf wund small pikin o!!!!

Glimpsed in the skies. Unknown Chinese stealth fighter.

[img]http://digitalgroup.info/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Chinese-jet-fighter-sighting.jpg[/img]

ElRazur:
As a person with interest in military weapons and what not. I think Chinese planes are just there for show. The technology used is usually stolen - Look up on how they buy trade secrets from Israel rogue agents, pakistani ISCI etc. While it may look fierce, it basically cannot out-perform or even match the Western equivalent in air combat or dog fight.

Remember the Russian (Who in my opinion make better technology advancements than China) had the MiG fighters and it was supposed to rival the Western equivalent back then, but it really didn't in real life practical terms.

As it stands, the US air superiority is unsurpassed. Iraq, Libya, and a host of nations who had battle with the US in recent times all had their Air defenses smashed in matter of days with very little resistance.


While country like China are busy trying to match or surpass the US. The US NORAD (Nothern American Aerospace Defense Command) already started work on Laser weaponry from three or four decades ago! The idea is to use Laser weaponry from space to disintegrate enemy targets anywhere on earth. You see, it is pretty much hard for any nation right now to out-maneuver the US Army in terms of technology. They simply invest Billions of dollars in the best brains.

Keep decieving yourself, its false comfort. Check the phone in your pocket, your TV, your satnav. . . Its all made in China, and if its stolen tech, then its darn good stolen tech. Fortunately, the US army thinks very differently to you.

You talk about lasers being used to disintegrate enemy targets like its some huge breakthrough. All you need is a portable power source and any country (including Somalia) can build the laser weapon. Lasers have been around since the 60's.

By the way, China was the first ever country to shoot down a satellite in space, and that happened a decade ago. They were also the first to build an anti-aircraft-carrier ballistic missile, the DF-21. I wonder who they copied, being first and all?

This kills aircraft-carriers:

[img]http://mostly.biz/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/DF-21-anti-aircraft-carrier-missile.jpg[/img]

Hertsnite:
Why is it ok for Afircans in Zimabwe for example to say that White people are not welcome in their land, yet it's ok for millions of Africans to come over to Europe? How would you feel in Nigeria if millions of unskilled white people descended on Lagos for instance ?

Because, the land in Zim was stolen at gun point, like it happened across Africa.

From your input so far, it is 100% definite that you are English. No?
You need to look back in history for cause and effect. Brittain deeply traumatised Africa with their empire, culture, identity, religion were all shreded; lands were stolen, blood was spilt and artefacts looted on an industrial scale.
It is not Zimbabwe I fear, but what a developed Africa might do. How will its youth react to a wretched history of the brazen exploitation of their people and lands? A developed Africa is not far around the corner either, 6 of the Worlds 10 fastest growing economies are African; we are building something beautiful out of the chaotic murk, it is still invisible and subteranean except to the descerning (like David Cameron, Sakozy and Merkel).
Attitudes like yours are unhelpful, you do not want to inflame the opinions of the African leaders of tomorrow. Put a lid on it and don't stir the hornets nest. Do you recall the Chinese Olympics and the ill-adviced protests in the UK? That was driven by similar arrogance to yours just 4 short years ago. Do you think such protests are remotely possible today?

And who says the Africans that flock your country are unskilled? Have you taken a studied look at the NHS and the IT industry? You are having a laugh mate!
Yes, there are unskilled Africans doing the dishes and care work, but no British person wants to do such.
Dude, the British economy will collapse without immigrants.

On the reverse side, we do have unskilled Europeans flooding Africa with fake qualifications and living the life. Its all because our laws are still developing (its not that easy for those who have had their cultures rap'ed). These is a bunch of unskilled Europeans in Africa, taking what didn't belong to them after a massacre of the locals; the stolen goods are still in Europe:

Thank you everybody, I am truly flattered.

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Sir, how many other governors don't have commissioners after close to one year? Can you name one apart from the Negus Negast, Magnus Rex, Dear Leader and Supreme Overlord of Osun?

Please name just one sir. Those who were sworn in just a few months ago have already kicked off with governance (including his fellow ACN govs), while AregbeRASCAL is planning to "develop" Osun by blabbing about building a local version of Oke-Arin market (without commissioners) and exporting yams to lagos (again, without commissioners). We need to go into 40 days dry fasting for Osun. African never learn.

koruji:
So, you are saying SLS knows on which side his bread is buttered.

Interesting viewpoints - a little bit more conspiratorial than I would think, but still interesting. There is definitely an agenda here, but it seems to me that it is basically that some people are being promised  a huge, but phantom, inflow of cash that their greedy eyes cannot pass-off.

The real reason behind such phantom promises escapes me - there are just too many investment destinations in the world for some bank to be hanging around the shores of Nigeria since 2003!!!

It just happens that another pesky Southern "infidel," Olusegun Obasanjo was President of Nigeria in 2003 and not exactly obeying agreed "orders." Sharia kicked off in roughly the same time frame.

Coincidence?

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Dude, you ain't making sense anymore, all your stuff isn't adding up.
Next thing, you'll say that in his rookie year, Lewis was only pretending to be comprehensively faster than a double World champ! LOL!!!!

First, before the new artificial tyre rules, Lewis driving style was truly electrifying, his speed confounded and dumbfounded poor Alonso who immediately threw the toys out of the pram.
Lewis was a beauty to watch (still is), a man comfortable with the rear of the car drifting, going into corners with a controlled slide, cos its the fastest way round. IMHO, the tyre rules could even have been an excuse for some to gang up on the precocious new talent, sadly for them, he is still by far the fastest.

Hamilton is known for his aggressive and interesting driving style. He commonly uses oversteer to control the car's direction change.[152] Confidence in car control allows Hamilton to excel in wet conditions as demonstrated in his performance at the 2008 British Grand Prix. Confidence is also demonstrated when overtaking, as reflected in his 32 overtakes in 4 races during 2010.[153]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Hamilton#Driving_style

Ya! All you've got to do is give the man a trash can, any old beat up junk piece of metal would do. . . Then sit back and be thoroughly entertained by electrifying skill.

The over the top establishment reactions to Lewis are all about the theme of this vid, bro. Watch Lewis talk as a 10 year old, he had had some ugly experiences at that age.

[flash=425,349]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmNKvHtnExg[/flash]

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Lol!
Bros, shine your eyes before it is too late.

What a funny guy! Here is a man who cannot even choose a couple of commissioners to serve the masses. He is going to single-handedly build schools and roads before the end of the year. He makes grand and highly deluded speeches; he promised to turn Osun state into the centre of Yoruba culture and tourism before the end of the year, not stopping there, he was going to massively export yams to Lagos by train and bring back the farm implements that would help Osun build its very own replica of Oke-Arin market.

Oke-Arin market? The man is <<censored text>>

koruji:
Islamic Banking can proceed if they want. This system has such a high information requirement that cannot be met on a large scale in the modern world, and YOU HAVE TO PAY INTEREST a.k.a PROFIT RATE on any money you borrow.

As such, the bank has to be either subsidized or remain at the level of small communities. The main potential sources of katakata are the following:

1. Nigeria's money would somehow be used to subsidize this business
2. If they are not following the same disclosure rules
3. If they engage in discrimination against christians
4. Some mallam actualy begins taking the "Islamic" on the banking system religiously
5. Some "conventional banking haram" group starts a violent campaign against regular banks

There is a very good reason why the bank has being loitering around Nigeria since 2003 and there is a reason why Sanusi & his cohorts are all of a sudden galvanized.

I am only sorry for the gullible true-believers who think these people are trying to do them a religious favor. If they have ears let them hear: This bank is not for paupers, it is for the rich to get richer. Period!

Visit this site and you would think the contents were 2011s, but you would be wrong. There are dates on some of the items - dates to 2008: http://www.jaizinternationalplc.com/www.jaizinternationalplc.com/index.html

You are spot on. Practically all "Islamic" banks are owned by pork chomping Christians, these banks in turn have shares in gambling and defence businesses.

"Islamic" banking has zero to do with Islam and everything to do with profit. Religion is a tool with which to clobber the vulnerable, hopeless and gullible.
In Nigeria's case though, it is a much more cynical weapon; it is the tool of the core-Northern elite to nurture and propagate their hegemonistic ambitions. It is all a long range plan of divide and rule; the aim is to "seem" to address the needs long suffering Muslims, as against the rest of Nigeria, a subtle, but nevertheless dangerous and obnoxious divide and rule tactic.

Boko haram has been seen through, headed away from the senseless bloodbath it was meant to provoke and confined to the streets of Maidugury. Even more than that, security agencies on the lookout for al qaeda operatives have their beams intensely focussed on the core-North. With loss staring them in the face, they have reached for a desperate measure; maybe the next Northern riots or bombs will target "Christian" banks.
The World is watching and the Mutallabs in US gulag are singing and spilling. Its a long chess game that the mallams have already lost.

In the meantime, Middle Belters and Southerners with the means should go all out to 100% own these banks, control the flow of cash from source to destination, own the street.

Sanusi is a man from an extremely priviledged home, who chose to shun Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, the LSE etc; he chose to sit a a degree in Sharia and Islamic Studies from the African International University in the dust ridden backwater, Khartoum, Sudan. A very strange decision for a young man from a super connected, moneyed background at an age when it is natural that his mind, like those of his peers should have been on girls. That is a very instructive point about the mans makeup.

[quote author=tpia@ link=topic=724751.msg8827407#msg8827407 date=1312135996]trying to drag the forum back into the dark ages. [/quote]We know you are the dark ages ma, why would I be getting "into" you? I only "go into" beautiful babes.
I cast and bind any principalities and powers, forces of darkness and spiritual baboons. HOLY GHOST! FIRE!! HOLY GHOST! FIRE!!! HOLY GHOST! FIRE!!!!

Lol!

MRbrownJAY:
@Beaf
look carefully at EVERYTHING that happened during Ham's rookie year not just what Alonso did. the whole beef started in Hungary YES but not during the race. . . . . . . . . in qualifying, Ham showed he was AGAINST his teammate and didnt want to follow the TEAM'S strategy, and thus going against Alonso. that, started their notorious hate for one another.

i can recommend some good meds for your amnesia, lol!

The problems between Lewis and Alonso started at Monaco, not Hungary. Ron Dennis kept telling Lewis to slow down and not pass Alonso, cos he was number two, but that didn't satisfy Alonso, Hamiltons raw speed had finally unnerved him. After the race, he had a huge spat with Ron Dennis after asking him to short-fuel Lewis so he wouldn't finish races if he drove at top speed. After that was Hungary, then he began blackmailing McLaren with the emails he and Pedro De la Rosa (McLaren test driver) had exchanged concerning the Ferarri car design. . . Ron Dennis decided not to be blackmailed and emailed the FIA. The whole thing is easily verifiable and not very great history from a grump who didn't have the civility to dissuade his fans from making ugly racist attacks on Lewis and his family.

Darthmaul:
Wat a race

Yeah, it was exciting, especially the first few laps when it was wet. Damn good action!

MRbrownJAY:
we all know that Ham is a great driver, just like many out there (even Jenson) BUT to put him on the same level as M. Schumacher?!?!?!?!?!?!?! thats called "taking the piss" where i'm from.

Then, you've got a lot of peeing to do, bruv!

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Dude, all I asked for was your understanding and experience of "strong" leadership, cos it seems like there are strange types that prefer to be slapped around. The harder the slap, the more they exlaim, "ah, that guy na iwin! Strong man! He rap'ed our people, area fada!"

There is something psychologically disturbed about such an attitude.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=724751.msg8827184#msg8827184 date=1312133460]wa doo, digwo.

err, why do you intentionally crave attention like a celebrity who has lost her glory? I hope you didn't expect to diss the Almajiris, who are the most marginalized Nigerians and who should actually have our sympathy and moral support, without being called out, or did you?

Stop demonizing these people on the pages of NL. What have you personally done to assist or help a single Nigerian who is not your relative, lately? Have you shown compassion towards any Almajiri lately? If you think you are better than they are, you are not. You are where you are, by a dumb accident of birth. For this latext faux pas of yours, I forgive you. Our people talk say, e gbue maka iwe, e nie maka isi - forgiveness is the best form of revenge.[/quote]Ranka dede my broda.
The almajiri's are not the problem here, no its the "strong" leadership that produced them. Do you mind picking your hero one from the lot of vultures I posted earlier?

[quote author=Ileke-IdI link=topic=724751.msg8827133#msg8827133 date=1312132833]Yes o!1 I dey here. Nice to have you back. . . . but we need to talk about your man GEJ. [/quote]Thanks jare, NL mermaid.
I'll be your guest anytime, but we'll need another thread.

BIGER BOY:
from the arguments of beaf i only see embodiment of supreme ignorance and lack of appreciation of situations.

typical of goodluck supporters when conered with facts they spew insults. too bad. pasting pictures of downtrodden children and making cheap political points gets us no where. poverty is not a problem common to the north or even nigeria, if any thing it is as a result of serial failure of leadership. gej inclusive. of i may ask is it a crime to demand good governance from gej? from his direction and priorities he is heading the wrong way, we r tired of stories of this is just the first 100 days, as some one asked who was there the last 300 days?

Dude, I am simply engaged in some research here. Since a group of loud dimwits have experienced "strong" leadership in Nigeria, we just need to know by process of elimination, where that strong leadership came from. Once we have tied that down, then we can proceed to nail down why our dear country is so backward and boko haram infested. It took decades to generate 10 million plus almajiri's, lets know about the "strong" leadership that bred such a situation.

antitpiah:
There is nothing to oppose. Gbawe is a deluded, confused, nepotic, despotic, paranoid, wobbling, intellectually empty, pretentious, cretinious, morally bankrupt, devious, lying , unashamed, wandering gazelle.

Preach bro! Preach!
I declare you prophet without the slightest hesitation. Let the weird, wonky and dangerously deluded quake.

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Ileke! My loff!

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=724751.msg8827042#msg8827042 date=1312131926]again insults and no logical conclusion

I never said Buhari represented strength and I would be glad if you can show me where I posted such

I said change and adding now "discipline"  . Buhari took part the coup that got him to power. At least so I was told. Can you give me evidence that Buhari took part in every single coup in the country.

At that time a coup was necessary for 2 factors

1. The country was going to disarray then

2. Military coup was the order of the day to get to power.

Now this was necessary and in fact we were luck that it was during his tenure that A WAR BROKE OUT between chad and Nigeria which Buhari and the military defeated without causing disturbance and unrest in the country unlike now.[/quote]Coups necessary?
What about murder, ra'pe and brigandage? You are displaying a very pathetic understanding of what civilised society is. It is easy to understand why a bush man and half-animal like Buhari acted like an armed robber and siezed the nation at gun point; he used to be a cattle rearer, chasing cows barefoot across the desert. His mind is simple, primitive and unschooled. He never benefitted from proper school, that is why the lives of youth corpers were so cheap to his supporters, they were wasted like bags of dirt by hoards of hate filled almajiri's, inspired by Buhari's "strong" leadership.

Buhari's only legacies are making the application for Nigeria (a secular country) to join the Organisation of Islamic Conference (OIC), killing innocent boys with retroactive laws and declaring unquenching zeal to spread sharia across Nigeria.

houvest:
Welcome back Beaf. But from which hole did David West cawl out from? Did not know he was still alive?

Thanks bro.

Gbawe:
Area father, how far? Dem don release you from your most recent stint at kirikiri? Look, this is only going to go down one way. GEJ will only continue to sink as per his innate ineptitude and total bias towards doing what is best for the "owners of Nigeria". You are brave psyching yourself up to come out of the dark corner you have been skulking in for god knows how long since GEJ began doing the opposite of all you claimed he would. Despite your vacuous show of bravado , even you will know that GEJ stinks currently. It won't be long before you retire to your little dark corner permanently . Your Oga cannot help but ruin things. it is in his inept and compromised nature . Sadly, deluded folks like you prefer daydreaming rather than facing reality with how you are trying too hard to convince everyone that a Skoda can ever be a Bentley.

Is the bolded a death threat?
Thats the painfully decrepete level of low arsewipes like you.

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Lol! The intellectual toilet washer that thinks two patrol boats are the new Odua navy has contributed his dunces mite.

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=724751.msg8826940#msg8826940 date=1312130736] thanks

Why is that? is it because Buhari represented change and GEJ represented OBJ and the continuation of PDP, and suffering for Nigerians?[/quote]Lol! First "strength," now "change!" How can a murderer that took part in every single coup and ra'pe from 1967 up to his own represent change?
This is why I keep saying its a breeze to say daft things. I mean, you just open your mouth and let the crap roll out.
What is change? Undying, red-eyed devotion to sharia in a secular country?

I'm still waiting, some super dense fool might take the challenge and claim that Abacha was great, or IBB, or Atiku. Yipee! Today is dunce parade day!

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=724751.msg8826906#msg8826906 date=1312130296]again insult and insult.

Sharia did not inspire Boko haram. Where is you get that from ? Boko haram is an extremist group that does not represent the people's wishes.

Now back to the topic

you were comparing Jonathan to Buhari isn't it?[/quote]It is impossible to compare humans and crazy eyed wild beasts. You'd best be comparing Buhari to Lucifer.

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Sup bro?

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=724751.msg8826858#msg8826858 date=1312129694]Borno is not dangerous because of Sharia but because of extremist which can be found in every society for example KKK in america. MEND/Egbesu in ijaw land, OPC in yorubaland

there are sharia courts in the SW infact 3 in lagos and there are no Boko harams

Again stick to the topic[/quote]Lol! Sharia inspired boko haram and your "strong" leaders inspired sharia. I know it may be a bit too complicated for you to grasp sha, so no bigie.
Dude, being daft doesn't require effort, but everyone can learn to think (even Aluwe).

This is another effect of "strong" leadership, child abuse and slavery:

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=724751.msg8826828#msg8826828 date=1312129341]Again if you have been reading my post, I am not saying GEJ is weak but saying he is imcompitent. Borno is a dangerous place,. but don't deviate form the topic

again lets discuss about the topic YOU FORMED thanks[/quote]What has made Borno so dangerous, if not "strong" sharia blinded leadership?

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=724751.msg8826814#msg8826814 date=1312129123]Are you saying that there was Poverty and Illiteracy in Lagos at that time. People need the authority of some kind to know they should act proper Outside there homes!!!!!

In amaerica and UK, if they say no U-turn. them no born even prime minister well to do U-turn. Also people don't just Urinate anyhow in those countries

this is because of the fear and respect of the authority

Same cannot be said about Nigeria.[/quote]Dimwit. Its "strong" leadership that makes people like you pee anywhere.

This is one of the by-products of "strong" leadership that has made Nigeria the envy of all nations:

www.nairaland.com/attachments/228931_almajiri_jpg3b717fb76953051fdc484005e071f01b

www.nairaland.com/attachments/115155_ug_JPGe0e0bfaf971c070f8c9541c1578a1273

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=724751.msg8826764#msg8826764 date=1312128435]Lagos is a Nigerian state just like Borno and I can chose to be wherever I want as my security can not be grantee in Borno state

Talk about the topic and stop trying to dodge facts OK!! because I know you want to deviate from the topic YOU formed[/quote]Dunce.

You hop around NL like a troubled frog, talking about GEJ lacking the "strong" leadership you have experienced all your life, yet you can't even go home, because the "leadership" from the vagabonds you crave has become too strong? Lol! I thought you would have looooooooooooooooooooved boko haram!

Maybe you look around yourself, see the indescribable degree of poverty, disease and suffering only to grow a big hard-on at the strength of your leaders. Maybe when you see the criminally large population of child wives and almajiri's, your poor lil mind craves to build a shrine to worship your "strong" leaders.

Shocking.

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=724751.msg8826689#msg8826689 date=1312127593]I am not talking about strong leaders but the leader's achievements when compare to GEJ

Now if you want my pick I choose BUHARI

If you were born then, you would know that the country saw sanity and disciple during his military regin with Idiagbon

ask your parents if you are not sure[/quote]Is that not why there is boko haram in your state? The sharia inspired "strength" and "sanity" Buhari gave you has made you people run away from home, while al qaeda and boko haram zealots have taken over.

Shame on you. Why are you in Lagos? When will you be able to return home to Borno and the "peace" Buhari, Atiku and his likes gave you?

Gbawe:
Not at all. Is this not the same person person who fooled everyone with the 'Carrot' of unity Government? I am glad the ACN openly made their stance known by announcing loudly and publicly that "we are not interested in Government of National unity".

Other Political Parties humiliated themselves by signing up to the project because they judged GEJ character wrongly with how they did not account for his weak mien. GEJ was told , firmly , by the PDP Hawks, in no uncertain terms, that there is no position to be wasted on his "unity Government" project while many PDP AGIPs remained without juicy office !!! The naive fools who backed GEJ should come and tell us how many positions they have gained from GEJ's "Government of National unity". Shior . "Weak" is not even adequate to qualify GEJ . try "impotent stooge" .

Lol! Awon ACN loudspeakers don land! Go and domesticate your Aregbesola, get him to pack from Lagos to Osun, and above all, get him to appoint his commissioners. He's been there almost a year talking crap, while Osun state gets overgrown with grass. I guess thats ACN's definition of strong leadership.

I'm sure you are one of the naive fools that backed the likes of IBB, Abacha and Buhari. Even if one isn't blessed with common sense, a little practice will get the brain working. Go and sort your strong leadership with Tinubu, the drug baron.

marvix:
Alh Harem and co cut d man some slack, what would u have GEJ do, u all agree he is weak well I voted him for his weakness since I looked around and saw that my nation had not fared any better under strong leaders so a weak leader may have d right touch, I say I will giv him 2yrs 2 come 2 terms with the solutions and someone is sayin afta 50yrs hav been wasted 2yrs is such a long time, pls if u can't wait 2yrs take a dive in d lagos lagoon at least Abaniwonda has done it you can also!!!

Damn!

Bruv, you're not smiling at all!

Andy Moore:
Please, if you have a point to make, make it rather than insulting people. Respect people's opinions especially when it makes sense. Thank you.

Abeg, choose your "strong" leader from the pack of donkeys and vamoose, or better still, evaporate.

[quote author=South-East link=topic=724751.msg8826575#msg8826575 date=1312126101]Beaf Buhari is not only ''strong''. He is over ''strong''. [/quote]Lol! Don't mind his boko haram inspired followers.

[size=21pt]SAI BUHARI!![/size]

A "strong" leaders boko haram like followers. LOLLLLLLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!

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https://www.moonbattery.com/muslims-riot-nigeria.jpg


I think alj harem is in the one below:

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