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Its a great artwork. The dude should be sponsored to an exhibition.

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=611755.msg7796368#msg7796368 date=1298600766]Sigh. You'll avoid the meat of the criticism and feign outrage over something that didn't even occur (me using this for political purposes. . . at the end of the day I'll likely support GEJ.)

In any case, a spade is a spade.[/quote]Seriously, it really doesn't matter if you end up supporting GEJ. I'm just concerned about the morals we express on NL, each time people die it seems the average NLer views them as mere numbers to be stacked on either side of a political calculation.

That said, I aplogise if that was not your intention.

Obiagu1:
That means you're ready to go to war. It's interesting to hear. I'll wait for you to start the war and can wait patiently while enjoying "Nigeria" as it pushes us in different directions.

Nobody is going to be pushed forever. We aren't anybodies slaves.

^
Perhaps you've been prompting GEJ to speak?
I believe you don't even know what Nigeria looks like anymore thats why you made the above grossly ignorant statements. Where do you get your news, by gossip only?
It is disgusting and heartless to use the deaths of innocent people as a political football. Some of you people are really callous beyond words.

I really don't think you can appreciate how you come across.

Obiagu1:
This is how I analyze situations.

1st scenario: Currently, oil is shared in Nigeria right? The North gets more according to their inflated population right? This is the point; oil revenue is being shared right now.
You said you did not want them to go away. Good, but you don't have the liberty you'll wish for, the liberty to manage ecological damage you witness in your towns and cities. If you continue with them, there is every possibility the situation will remain the same or slightly improved.

2nd scenario: If you let them secede with oil revenue still being shared, but you'll have your freedom. Away from all the grudges and murder that go on in the North, away from the threat to turn your territory to a sharia state.

Of the scenarios, which one do you prefer? Remember, oil revenue is shared in both!

Your analysis is flawed. It is obvious to everyone that exploitation by the North is on its last legs; in my opinion, we should be thankful to God that GEJ is President today, because Yar Adua was driving the country toward war they would have bitterly regretted. If the exploitation didn't stop in the soft way its ending under GEJ, it would have ended in a very violent way. Since Yar Adua's time, I've been preaching that sophisticated armies can be raised in days, events in Libya show that analysis to be correct. Oil can do wonders.

If we go, we will not share a drop of oil with vulture or parasite that can't save themselves by doing an honest days job.

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=611755.msg7796205#msg7796205 date=1298598196]I wonder what GEJ thinks of his countrymen being slaughtered by mercenaries.[/quote]What do you think of your countrymen being killed by mercenaries? You think they are political toys?
In the US where you live, do you ask what Obama thinks of random shootings in Alabama or Ohio?

fstranger3:
^^^

What is Jonathan's Yoruba name? So far this is what we have:

Slave Name - Jonathan Goodluck
Ibo Name - Azikiwe
ND Name - Ebele
Hausa Name - Babangida Jnr

To complete the WaZoBia tripod, we need to know his Yoruba name.

Thanks

The word, wazobia is deeply insulting.

One and a half meat!

Oga o! becomerich, you don kolo finissssssssssss!!!!

Obiagu1:
Goodluck with that. What if your were defeated and turned to slaves?

Thats some funny shyte! No oil country can lose a war against a fellow under developed country. Not possible, instead we will draw our borders where we like.
Two weeks should do the job.

Chei! Una still de hia de yarn opata?

Obiagu1:
This does not solve the problem. You guys only complain about the North everytime but keep hold of the oil the North wants. If there won't be any compromise, then stop bothering yourself about the North. If they turn your land to uninhabitable territory, you only have to move on,
If you want them to just go away, make a deal and have your freedom. This is the way I see it.

Else, go to war!

I haven't said they should go away, but if it ever comes to that, we will raise the sort of army West Africa has never seen in a few short days. It will be like judgement day! lol
At least for that, oil is gud!

Obiagu1:
It's good you said the talk is still inconclusive but you have to note that it was in the 2005 deal that paved the way for the referendum.
Can the South renege on that deal? I don't they could unilaterally without triggering war.

Oh yes, they can and will. In life and death situations, you do what is necessary to free yourself, then once free, you rise like a lion. . . lol

[size=14pt]Ban nomadic cattle rearing once and for all. We are not in the stone age.[/size]
After that, if any cattle rearer is found outside his state or designated farm area, shoot the fvker like a thief.

Enough is enough.

ShangoThor:
Seriously, I don't care about oil. We are only limited by our imagination, hard work ethic and willingness to generate wealth, produce a surplus.

Nevertheless: South Sudan rules out sharing oil revenue with North

http://www.sudantribune.com/South-Sudan-rules-out-sharing-oil,38009

The talks are inconclusive atm

Exactly! And I'll keep on hammering it, the way we share money instead of producing it is the reason Nigeria is backward.
If we all states had to make money none would allow 10 million members of their workforce to mentally vegetate and roam the land as almajiri's crazed on gutter water, killing, looting and ra'ping the members of society that actually contribute to the economy with their jobs or market trade.

Obiagu1:
Will you support any oil revenue sharing deal that would encourage the North to secede similary to the deal between Northern and Southern Sudan?

No.

alj harem:
10 million almajiri is more than the population of ijaw+isoko+urhobo+anioma all added together

this almajiri you make fun of are ruling your jonathan and will be president of this nation,., we can make the bet now mumu

Yes, that might be true.

. . .But what is more worrying is that their number is greater than that of the following DEVELOPED countries, Sweden,  Switzerland, Israel, Hong Kong, Denmark, Finland, Norway, Singapore, Ireland, New Zealand etc. Bloody hell!
Yet all their states know is how to falsify population figures to get free oil money to steal, while turning a blind eye to the almajiri conveyor belt. The almajiri's in turn only know how to steal ra'pe, kill and feed fat on free oil money.

Sad, sad, sad.

I de laf!

Every thief in Nigeria forgot about their groundnut pyramids as soon as oil was discovered.
Because of free oil money, instead of developing we are overrun by 10 million almajiri's.

In 1999, the Nigerian police fraud unit led by Nuhu Ribadu who later became the chairman of the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) investigated Mr. Kase Lawal for being linked to the Osahon Group that was involved in stealing an oil well

Em, how does that work? Na jass or Obubra winshes?

10cirenoh:
Oh you haven't seen GEJ's manifesto?  , ask beaf, i hope he's not too ashamed to share with you.
. . .

Ok, for the sake of stone throwers, lets assume GEJ has no manifesto, just that things like 1% of GDP being marked out for Research and Development somehow make it into the news (but stone throwers no get need for news, so no biggies ).

Lets forget about manifestos for one minute, cos they are mere words (empty in Buhari's case) and concentrate on the man, Buhari. His antisocial nature has caused him to fail woefully in a civilian setting.
He is an ex-head of states who has been a serial contestant at the presidential level; buhari was there in:

[list]
[li]1999 elections as presidential candidate[/li]
[li]2003 elections as presidential candidate[/li]
[li]2007 elections as presidential candidate[/li]
[li]2011 elections as presidential candidate[/li]
[/list]

. . .Yet, he is unkown to the youth in the South!!!!!!
[size=33pt]Lol![/size]

. . .Anyways, We fully expect him to say, "present sir" in the following elections too (with manifesto). Lol, the man just can't read the signs!

[list]
[li]2015 elections as presidential candidate[/li]
[li]2019 elections as presidential candidate[/li]
[li]2023 elections as presidential candidate[/li]
[li]2027 elections as presidential candidate[/li]
[li]. . .and so on![/li]
[/list]

I doubt even Kano will be able to afford salaries for more than a couple of months without oil. Most of the core North is overrun by almajiri's and their sheer population of 10 million (greater than two thirds of the 224 Worlds nations) will quickly sink any ship. ND oil goes a very long way to finance all sorts of crap in Nigeria.

If these states were actually working and producing money, would they be able to afford 10 million fvcking almajiri's? The whole thing is so damn annoying!
They get free money and abuse it.

^
The bill says the money is going directly to the communities. It says nothing about states.
Resource control aint about states.

This looks like some pretty serious shyte hitting the fan.

againstGEJ:
Please read your posting all over again. So na GEJ dey holam for South African cell?

Dude, Okah lovers always come up with very entertaining viewpoints.

^
Gbawe! Gbawe! King of omo ota!

Like I said, mourn all you like, probity is coming to Nigeria. Gone are the days of illegal ECA accounts you long for. The new Sovereign fund is 100% backed by law.

I pointed out earlier that Nigeria is building 3 brand spanking new refineries for $23billa, I gave an example of the 2,600MW Mambilla power station whose building took off last week at a $4billa cost, same goes for numerous other power projects springing up around the country. A few weeks ago, Nigeria broke serial records in energy production, finally breaching the 4000MW barrier.

Do you think these things can be paid for with guguru? LOL

[size=14pt]Gaddafi blames Osama Bin Laden for Libyan unrest[/size]
Date: 24 February 2011
By Nick Eardley

Colonel Muammar Gaddafi has said that Osama Bin Laden is responsible for manipulating protestors in Libya.
Speaking on state television via telephone, the Libyan leader said youngsters were being given drugs and alcohol and were criminals.

He also said they were being tricked into participating in the largest protests since he took power.

"Bin Laden
ADVERTISEMENT, this is the enemy who is manipulating people," Gaddafi said.

"Bin Laden is the criminal, catch him and present him to
court. He is the one in charge of any murder or any disaster."

"Do not be swayed by Bin Laden."

He claimed al Qaida militants are "exploiting" teenagers, giving them "hallucinogenic pills in their coffee".

Gaddafi said: "Their ages are 17. They give them pills at night they put hallucinatory pills in their drinks, their milk, their coffee their Nescafe."

"They are criminals , is it logical that you let this phenomenon continue in any city? , We do not see what is happening in Egypt and Tunisia happening in Libya, ever!"

Libya's Quryna newspaper said at least 10 people have been killed in the town of Zawiyah. It has seen clashes between protesters and government supporters.

Speaking about the unrest in the town 30 miles from Tripoli, Gadafi said: "What is happening in Zawiyah is a farce. , Sane men don't enter such a farce."

In later parts of Gaddafi's speech, he compared his 41 years as ruler of Libya with the Queen's 59-year reign over Britain and the Commonwealth.

Gaddafi said: "There are people who have been in power longer than me, like Queen Elizabeth of Britain."

Today, the first Brits caught up in chaos returned.

http://www.scotsman.com/world/Gaddafi-blames-Osama-Bin-Laden.6723820.jp

If Decree 4 was historic so too are the recent confessions of the number one defender of that law -- the then director of public prosecutions Moshood Olayiwola Adio. It is an act of humility, indeed self-flagellation, to observe Moshood Adio admit publicly that there were injustices inherent in the very law he defended. His sudden transformation is ennobling. In the new-era religious phraseology one could say that Adio has finally "seen the light". Adio's confessions are astounding and revealing. They say a lot about the man and his inner desire to purge himself of the injustice that was Decree 4. Hear him: "I was part of the team that prosecuted them and I share my guilt, It is not a good legislation for a civilised society. That was censorship when even if you published the truth you have committed an offence."

Shocking!
It was a period of rampant human rights abuse.

[size=14pt]Confessions of a prosecutor[/size]
By Levi Obijiofor

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ONE of the most odious attacks on freedom of the press in the history of military rule and indeed the history of journalism practice in Nigeria must be the notorious Decree 4 of 1984. It was a vengeful decree designed by maniacal military leaders not only to silence freedom of expression and of the press but also to silence the truth. Some media commentators had argued, in the heydays of the decree, that its enactment signaled the desire of the creators to intimidate the Nigerian press from carrying out its social role in society: that is, to act as a check on government and as a watchdog of society. Muhammadu Buhari and Tunde Idiagbon, the former military head of state and his "Man Friday" who endorsed Decree 4, used the decree to impose the most restrictive anti-press freedom laws in Nigeria. Decree 4 was designed to shield Buhari and his minions from being accountable to the Nigerian people. The intent of the decree was clear -- to silence opinion, speculation and even the truth.

Decree 4 was evil in intent and execution and went against all norms of decency in civilized society. Indeed Decree 4 was an abuse of the fundamental principles of human rights. It violated the spirit and letters of Article 19 of the United Nations Universal Declaration on Human Rights of which Nigeria was a signatory. Article 19 had stated that "Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression - and to seek, receive, and impart information and ideas through any medium and regardless of frontiers".

In Nigeria no one, certainly not the military leaders, listened or respected human rights clauses of the United Nations. It is important that while we condemn the high-handedness of Ibrahim Babangida and Sani Abacha during their evil regimes, we should also condemn with the same degree of seriousness the assault on individual freedoms perpetrated by Buhari through the obnoxious and overnight laws manufactured by his government. Certainly the Nigerian press will not forget Buhari in a hurry because, as English playwright William Shakespeare aptly noted, the evil that men do shall live long even after their demise.

In the 18th century, Libertarian and utilitarian philosopher John Stuart Mill had argued persuasively for an "open market place of ideas" where the "weak and the strong", men and women, "minorities and majorities" should be free to express themselves and seek the truth. Mill was an apostle of unrestricted freedom of expression. His much-admired thesis, captured by the authors of the Four Theories of the Press, is that a society that silences an opinion actually silences the truth because a wrong opinion may contain some elements of truth necessary to determine the whole truth. Mill must have shifted in his grave when Buhari and Idiagbon embarked on the road to infamy through enactment of Decree 4. That is now an old story but in the history of journalism practice in Nigeria, the impact of that law is still being felt despite the revocation of that law. Seventeen years after its enactment and sixteen years after its repeal, Decree 4 and the iniquities associated with it, its authors and defenders still touch the sore nerves of Nigerian journalists.

If Decree 4 was historic so too are the recent confessions of the number one defender of that law -- the then director of public prosecutions Moshood Olayiwola Adio. It is an act of humility, indeed self-flagellation, to observe Moshood Adio admit publicly that there were injustices inherent in the very law he defended. His sudden transformation is ennobling. In the new-era religious phraseology one could say that Adio has finally "seen the light". Adio's confessions are astounding and revealing. They say a lot about the man and his inner desire to purge himself of the injustice that was Decree 4. Hear him: "I was part of the team that prosecuted them and I share my guilt, It is not a good legislation for a civilised society. That was censorship when even if you published the truth you have committed an offence." If there are now any question marks about Adio's confessions, one of those questions must be why it took him 17 years to come out and purge his heart of the burden of that guilt. He ought to have done so a long time ago. Indeed, if he was afraid of being incarcerated by Buhari, the overthrow of Buhari's government provided him the security he needed to expose the unjust letters of that law. He didn't do so. The Nigerian press must be justified to dismiss this astonishing display of penitence. Adio had all the time in the world to clarify his role in defending that decree. He didn't do so. He blew the chance in the arrogant manner of public prosecutors who believe they are the only ones endowed with knowledge of the best way civil society ought to be administered.

But Adio's confessions serve a useful purpose. Tunde Thompson and Nduka Irabor, who went to jail because of an evil law, can now find relief in the sense that the chief defender of Decree 4 and the very man who mounted arguments that led to their conviction, has finally confessed. Adio's confessions must be documented and recorded in the history books. Adio must now go one step further and apologise personally and publicly to the direct victims of Decree 4: The Guardian newspapers and the two former senior staff of the newspaper, Tunde Thompson and Nduka Irabor.

However we need to acknowledge that it is not easy for a public servant, who achieved notoriety because of his defence of an unpopular and odious military decree, to offer his regrets in regard to his role in defending that law. We must not hold it against Adio that his confessions arrived 17 years too late. In matters of repentance, no time is too late or too early. Adio was right in his observations. Decree 4 gave sweeping protection to public officials and, although he did not admit this, it also sought to elevate official lies to a new art form. Decree 4 supported the dark forces in Buhari's government. Whereas openness in government is highly cherished in many civilised societies, Decree 4 in Nigeria tended to elevate secrecy to a high art. As Adio pointed out, the law (Decree 4) "protected public officers from publications of not only what is untrue but (also) what is true about them. This is ludicrous."

The irony of Decree 4 is evident in the crusading credentials of Buhari and Idiagbon. These were men who showed determination to reform society (or so we thought) through the sloganeering campaign of War Against Indiscipline. The campaign was not meant only to instill discipline in the nation's work ethic and consciousness, it was also perceived as a campaign to re-position Nigeria and its people toward assuming a sense of responsibility, honesty and forthrightness.

Decree 4 and its letters exposed the hypocrisy beneath the tough veneer of Buhari and Idiagbon. Where the War Against Indiscipline reinforced order and responsibility, Decree 4 depicted a society trying hard to return to the Old Stone Age, the era of the Tudors and Stuarts of 17th century England. In no time, everyone began to wonder whether Buhari and Idiagbon were sending contradictory signals to the nation. Decree 4 showed a nation with a leadership that lacked foresight, a nation that preached one thing and practised something different. Under Buhari and Idiagbon, inconsistency became a virtue. The next confessor must be the high priest of Decree 4 himself, Muhammadu Buhari. Whether he would do so remains a mystery.

http://www.nigerdeltacongress.com/carticles/confessions_of_a_prosecutor.htm

What manifesto?

"I will continue to show openly and inside me the total commitment to the Sharia movement that is sweeping all over Nigeria," Buhari said, quoted in press reports.

"God willing, we will not stop the agitation for the total implementation of the Sharia in the country," Buhari said.

- General Buhari

https://www.channelstv.com/images/newsImages/buhari8.jpg

Nduka Irabor and Tunde Thompson were jailed simply for speaking the truth.

Under the most repressive govt Nigeria has ever had, speaking the truth became a jailable offence as long as it embarrassed the govt under the draconian Decree 2.

At a time the Middle East is kicking out their dictators, why would Nigerian seek a Gaddafi style neanderthal?

[size=14pt]Spot the difference:[/size]

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https://nehandaradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Gaddafi.jpg