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cyril10:
I'm begining to hate this forum called naira land, most of the people that post here, post as if they never touched the forewalls of secondary schools not to talk of the university and these are the people that claim to be very educated.

When it comes to the issue of JEG here, people post as if they have lost their ability to think properly, they yarn rubbish that doesn't have a meaning
so many things are being posted here that i have come to realise that they really doesn't make sense at all, people here should try to be more reasonable when posting, no wonder i hardly read posts from foreigners on this forum since it seems that people are no longer making sense here.

I share your views. Many people do not realise how brain dead they sound when they make obtuse statements with pride; its like they think such behaviour will somehow convince anyone, all they end up doing is creating a low opinion of their abilities to reason logically.

@topic
GEJ is decimating Chiroma's camp with a sledgehammer and a quiet smile. His target is obviously not the old bat, or IBB, or Atiku; it is their followers and we can already see that his how overtures have devided the zoning camp in just a few short days; within the next two weeks, it'll be bye bye Ciroma. Quietly done, neatly dusted.

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Are you talking about the same man that hurriedly dropped his law suit against the AGN, because of "stakeholder interest" and other buncum?
Salami is a sinking ship.

He can sue for breach of privacy and a thousand other things, but that does not invalidate the call logs. PDP might not be saints, but they have this very neatly sewn up.

[quote author=Rhino.5dm link=topic=610368.msg7785026#msg7785026 date=1298461185]NAH! Thesame thieves from Niger delta will hijack the monies, buy new Jeep,build houses, carry woman to hotel. shikenah! 
while the those retched communities will be use as stakes for aids. NEVER EXPECT ANYTHING GOOD FROM BUNCH OF BLOOD SUCKERS!!!

If only the communities will take thier destinies into thier hands.[/quote]From your words, people would think your elites did anything but parasite and churn out almajiri's at an industrial scale. What do your folk contribute to Nigeria, except cheap death to Birom babies, women and any who as much as stare at their cattle?

chosen04:
@Poster,

Your question should have been- What is the highest amount U (one) can pay for niGERia?

If you were a foreigner and all parts Nigeria were up for auction, what would you bid on?

Nigeria is worth our oil reserves and not a Kobo more. We are a mono-economy, without oil everything will turn as worthless as the Zimbabwean Dollar did.
A useless country that can't manufacture a pin, yet has bundles of brains and talent. A worthless country that despices those slaves from whose polluted lands the nations milk and honey flows.

I am afraid that if the call logs are proven true, how they were obtained wouldn't matter in the least before a court of law. Thats the way it rolls.
We have the outing of a judge, his position is now untenable regardless of any card he plays, its called "roast duck."

Oni claims to have even more damning records in reserve too. . . Blockbuster!

[quote author=X-factoria link=topic=610344.msg7787039#msg7787039 date=1298481313]Don't mind some silly pro-Tinubu posters here. I am Yoruba and I hate (note I didn't say dislike) Tinubu with a passion. How can we Yorubas even elevate a certificate forger and a drug baron to be our spokesman?? I believe GEJ was rightly referring to Tinubu when he made the "rascal" statement.

I dare to say GEJ is right about Tinubu being a rascal. The over-indulgence of the guy (Tinubu) in South West is the reason why he can open his big mouth to yarn dust as if he is speaking for all of us. Nonsense![/quote]My broda! Hold one odeku dia!
There is nothing that should impress an unbiased observer about Tinubu. Have we forgotten the "University of Toronto" issue so soon? Or Tinubu's involvement with drugs?
The man is a fraudster and big time rogue, his type can only attract alaye's and OPC members. That he can mouth off so loudly in national issues is a sad commentary on our political lanscape. We must bring out bleach, brushes and otapiapia to thoroughly cleanse the place after April, no more will such morally greasy types roam freely.

This is the first step to state police. At this rate, one morning we will wake up to find we are finally practising true federalism.
Operation Rainbow is a massive milestone.

honeric01:
^^^

Bombing and kidnapping?

What about killing thousands of fellow country men, because some white fool had drawn a cartoon of Muhammad in far away Holland? There are a thousand other examples of wanton bloodshed by almajiri's. Unexplanable violence is nothing new in the North and it will not go away until the almajiri are educated.

The Southern almajiri targets are now pissed off. So, we be educating them, oppressors and child abusers can cry all they want. Tough!

Looks like Salami is in very hot okro soup.

[size=14pt]Groups want Salami investigated [/size]
By Ifedayo Adebayo
February 23, 2011 02:35AM

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Several groups have called for the investigation of the alleged clandestine telephone calls between the President of the Court of Appeal, Justice Ayo Salami and leaders of the Action Congress of Nigeria (ACN) during the hearing of the appeal cases of governorship elections in Osun and Ekiti states.

Reacting to the allegation, the Ekiti Justice Group, in a statement by its Coordinator, Tunji Oluwasanmi, described Mr Salami’s leadership of the Appeal Court as “a threat to democracy”.

Mr. Oluwasanmi said “From what we read today (yesterday), Salami, Tinubu and others have questions to answer on the Ekiti and Osun governorship appeal cases.”

Another group, the Elections Transparency Group, described the allegation as “messy and scandalous” and called on the National Judicial Council, the Supreme Court and relevant government agencies to expedite action on the petitions with a view to correcting any act of injustice or crime in the matter.

Olagunsoye Oyinlola and Segun Oni, the former governors of Osun and Ekiti states respectively, who were removed from office last year by the Appeal Court, had petitioned the National Judicial Council and President Goodluck Jonathan claiming that Mr Salami was influenced to give judgment in favour of their opponents in the 2007 elections. The petitioners say they have evidence of the call exchange between Mr. Salami and leaders of the ACN.

The petitions

Messrs Oni and Oyinlola are fighting what they believe is injustice against them. After spending about three years in office as governors of their respective states, the duo were sacked after the Appeal Court ruled that they did not win elections.

In Ekiti State, Mr. Oni was replaced with the ACN’s Kayode Fayemi while Mr. Oyinlola lost his post in Osun State to Rauf Aregbesola, also of the ACN.

But in similar petitions to the judicial council and Mr. Jonathan, the former governors said “the Appeal Court judgment was a product of fraud.’’

Stating his readiness to supply more proof if required, Mr. Oni, in the petition to the President, claimed he forwarded “along with this petition, printed copies of CALL LOGS from Sept 2010-Jan 2011, on Justice Ayo Salami.”

The duo alleged that Tunji Ijaiya, whom they called Mr. Salami’s friend, had used subscriber number 08034010700 to help the Judge transact business with the ACN leaders and their lawyers, “in the unholy business of miscarriage of justice, from the month of September 2010 up to October 2010 when the judges wrote and delivered the judgment in Ekiti, and up till January this year, Justice Salami, Justice Adamu Jauro and the said agent, Ijaiya, were in close telephone contact by voice or SMS with counsel to ACN candidate and officials of the party.”

When NEXT called the number alleged to be Mr. Ijaiya’s, it was unanswered. A text message later sent to the number asking for response to the allegation was replied thus “Tunji Ijayi, (sic) don’t bother yourself about this malicious allegation. God is with you and all things will be under His control. All these allegation of phone scandal that are raised by PDP stalwarts are the handiwork of some politicians and highly placed judicial officers who are all out to tarnish your image and destroy the system, because you exposed their illicit act in the judiciary. Sir, stand with your good character that you’re known with. Never compromise with those unscrupulous elements. God bless you sir. (Bello A. Abubakar Sokoto).”

A long list

The petitioners also accused many legal practitioners of being accomplices in the arrangement of cases with Mr. Salami’s influence. It stated that the following legal practitioners, who represented the ACN at Election Appeal Tribunals at various times were involved in the crisis. Those named are Lateef Fagbemi 08033246788); Akintola Adeniyi: (08037643770); Nnaemeka Ngige: (08035240990); Ricky Tarfa : (08034600000); Ibrahim Abdullahi: (08033896874, 08037041655).

However, one of the lawyers, Mr. Akintola rebuffed the allegation claiming that the lawyers listed were those who represented Mr. Salami in his case against the Chief Justice of the Federation.

“We have taken up the matter already. We are doing a letter and sending it to Compass and Mr. Oni tomorrow to retract it and pay N50 million damages to me.

“The only thing they gave was our conversation with Justice Salami over a case that we just filed. I happen to be one of the lawyers that filed his recent case. If you check, all the names they mentioned are the ones representing Justice Salami in his case with the CJN.

“Fagbemi has never handled a case for the ACN. In fact, Fagbemi is their lawyer in PDP. Ricky Tarfa has never handled anything for ACN. Emeka Ngige has never handled anything for ACN in the West. Ibrahim Abdulahi they mentioned was counsel to Segun Agagu. In my own case, I represented ACN yes, but I never had anything to do with Salami. I have never set my eyes on him until August last year when we held the NBA conference in Kaduna, where he delivered a lecture.

“After that, when he had problem with this elevation issue, I happened to be one of the lawyers and all of us who happened to file the case for Salami, are the ones they mentioned in that petition.

“You’ll have to discuss with your client, if you don’t discuss with your client, who will you discuss with?

“Oni, should just publish the time and date of my conversations with Salami.”

Fayemi keeps mum

When contacted to comment on the matter, Mojeed Jamiu, the media aide to Mr. Fayemi, the incumbent governor of Ekiti State, said his principal has nothing to respond to as Mr. Fayemi’s name was not mentioned in the petition.

“The allegation was not directed to us, so contact NJC on whatever might have been sent to them. So far the name of the governor is not there, I don’t think there is a need for comment.”

Other ACN members mentioned in the petition includes; Bola Tinubu (08034240000), Lai Mohammed, Olatunji Kayode Olowolafe, and Hakeem Muri-Okunola.

However, in a statement yesterday by Mr. Mohammed, the National Publicity Secretary, and one of those accused in the issue, the ACN warned the ruling PDP and top federal government officials not to attempt to throw Nigeria into an avoidable crisis over their “desperation” to reverse the Appeal Court judgments on the Ekiti and Osun governorship election petitions.

Mr. Mohammed, said that Appeal Court judgments in the cases are final, “irrespective of what the ousted governors are being told by their starry-eyed advisers or the buttons they are pressing at the federal government level.”

The party accused the PDP of planning to use the allegation as bait to re-open the cases and overturn the judgments.

It, however, warned that the ruling party should be “ready for an epic battle, the end of which no one can predict, and the consequences of which can only be imagined.

“If the petitioners and their sponsors want to really convince Nigerians about their allegations, they should be courageous enough to publish all the call logs of Justice Salami during the period in question, so that all can see all the calls that Justice Salami received during the period.”


http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/News/5679502-146/groups_want_salami_investigated__.csp

fstranger3:
^^^ Those schools gave us the Likes of Justice Kayode Eso, Professor Wale Omole, Nzeogwu etc.

I can assure you that the schools that provided those gentlemen never ever looked anything like this:

[img]http://news2.onlinenigeria.com/thumbnail.php?file=images/Abandoned_classrooms_467553756.gif&size=article_small[/img]

No ordered mind can be created in such a dump, in fact such places are probably the reason some clowns argued that Nigeria's average IQ is 69 (Lynn and Vanhanen - 2006).

seanet02:
Typical beaf with his S.tupidit.y. how can i vote for a party that spent eight years in power yet can not provide electricity for just 4 hours daily consistently for just one month. Beaf you will soon need to dust your C.V and look for another job when your $4 per hour job from GEJ is brought to an end with GEJ administration in may.

I've noticed that the only thing you can do is abuse, its one of the many gifts of a low IQ.

[quote author=eku_bear link=topic=610368.msg7783586#msg7783586 date=1298441074]Sounds like a phenomenal bill. Money for the oil communities, reduction of gas flaring, development of natural gas, increased electricity, and more fertilizer. Is there any downside to this?[/quote]There is no downside. For the first time in our history, we will not be mere onlookers in our oil industry and slaves to Shell, yes it is a phenomenal bill.
In the past we had fools that just signed any paper that Shell presented, collected brown envelopes and believed any figure Shell gave as the number of barrels drilled. This is about full local participation and accountability, someone has at last had the guts to stare Shell down without blinking; in fact all licenses have been suspended until the bill is signed.

Its a wonderful development, it just needs to be passed, so expext another round of heavy "oiling" to see it through, cos Shell ain't gonna take it lying low.

Tinubu seems genuinely spooked. He probably looked at the huge "foreigner" demographics in Lagos, then made note of the loss of Ikorodu in the recent by-elections.
. . .And fullscale nightmares began!

Tinubu's fear is real and expected, Lagos will likely go PDP, hence his recent fallback to ethnically bigoted statements in the hope that he can convince the area boy population. He might just end up undoing Fashola.

. . .Lest I forget, I have been predicting for some time now that Fashola will end up in PDP.

9ijaMan:
I can't remember directing the post to you. Even in small talks as this your level of bigotry is being put on display. At least we can separate the seeds from the chaffs, since we can now differentiate between those who are really interested in moving the nation forward and those who are only interested in pursuing their own ethnic and/or religious agenda. Enough is Enough! We would no longer allow PDP to fan the embers of divisiveness in order them to carry on their "Mission to Steal" approach of governance.

Its funny when you come to a forum where everyone speaks in English, only to start screaming in Hausa and blame civilised folk for pointing out the obvious.
. . .But much isn't expected sha; CPC people are best known for arson and stone throwing. LOL!!!!

Talking about moving the nation forward, what would a man best set in the stone age have to offer? Buhari conjures up images of human rights abuse, repression of freedom of speech, murder, "political soldiering" (he was involved in all military coups and govts except IBB's). IBB and Abacha served in his govts, he in turn served in Abacha's govt. He is a part of the sordid past we are slowly, but surely sweeping away.

When Buhari ruled there was zero freedom of speech, in fact you spoke the truth on pain of jail (ask Tunde Thompson and Nduka Irabor). It was a jailable crime to embarrass govt with the truth.

Speaking about ethnic bigotry, you couldn't find a better icon than Buhari. After he overthrew the govt of president Shagari (a fellow Fulani), he kept him under house arrest in plush conditions in highbrow Ikoyi, while his powerless deputy (an Igbo man) Alex Ekwueme was jailed under the most deplorable conditions in Kirikiri maximum prison. Bigotry?

Buharis tale is a gutter litany, from religious extremism to human rights abuses.

Why would anyone root for a monster just when the Middle East is getting rid of theirs?
Buhari is a dinosaur, intellectual carcass, vulture and despotic monster.

New York [RR] ABUJA–this intervention has been provoked, not so much by the ambitions of General Buhari to return to power at the head of a democratic Nigeria, as by declarations of support from directions that leave one totally dumbfounded. It would appear that some, myself among them, had been over complacent about the magnitude of an ambition that seemed as preposterous as the late effort of General Ibrahim Babangida to aspire yet again to the honour of presiding over a society that truly seeks a democratic future.
What one had dismissed was a rash of illusions, brought about by other political improbabilities that surround us, however, is being given an air of plausibility by individuals and groupings to which one had earlier attributed a sense of relevance of historic actualities. Recently, I published an article in the media, invoking the possible recourse to psychiatric explanation for some of the incongruities in conduct within national leadership.

Now, to tell the truth, I have begun to seriously address the issue of which section of society requires the services of a psychiatrist. The contest for a seizure of rationality is now so polarized that I am quite reconciled to the fact it could be those of us on this side, not the opposing school of thought that ought to declare ourselves candidates for a lunatic asylum. So be it. While that decision hangs in the balance however, the forum is open. Let both sides continue to address our cases to the electorate, but also prepare to submit ourselves for psychiatric examination.

-Wole Soyinka

http://www.republicreport.com/the-crimes-of-buhari-wole-soyinka/

[img]http://thenigerianarchive.files./2010/11/wole-soyinka.jpg[/img]

fstranger3:
I really dont see what the hullabaloo is really.

There is more to education than nice and well decorated buildings. Once we look past trivial issues like that, more important things come to the fore. I am more interested in the quality of the teachers than the buildings that make up a school. You can go to the most attractive and best built schools and still amount to nothing. We know, thanks to WAEC, that the best schools in Nigeria over the past decade arent the Sulejas of the World nor the Olashores of this World. As a matter of fact, expensive and well funded schools in most cases lag behind dilapidated state schools, going by WAEC results. It is on record that the highest achieving schools in Nigeria are the little known schools like Oritamefa in Ibadan, Ilesha grammer school, Christ school in Onitsha etc. It is not the building that is going to impact the knowledge into the kids, the teachers do and more than that their fellow students.

All in all, what is more important than education are Knowledge and character, and these two, fortunately, can be taught anywhere, with or without eye catching buildings, including often derided places like Animal farms. As long as there are teachers there ready to teach and shape the character of those kids, I care not what the school buildings look like, very trivial IMHO.

Dude, I went to a school where it wasn't out of place to find people who could read a full novel during siesta or revise for addtional maths exams by simply leafing through the pages. There is no "Oritamefa" on Earth that can match such a school in any way. Neither do I think the likes of Shell hunt down their next scholarship recipients whom they would train in Europe from any Oritamefa dump.

We must admit that Nigeria is simply rotten and despicable in many ways. Its only after we admit the fact that we will have the collective strength, purpose and direction to pull out of the sewer.

I weep.

[quote author=eku_bear]Who here has been to Niger State? Or at least the major cities thereof?

Does it really have 4 million people in it?

Does Minna feel like a city of 300k+ people?[/quote]I am conversant with practically all the states in Nigeria. I can tell you without flinching that we have a serious case of ghost voters up North.
Dude, you can travel for long periods and only encounter the odd hamlet (and I mean hamlet)

I believe Niger state can boast 2 or 3 million, their falsification is relatively minor. The major lies begin from Kano, Kaduna, Maiduguri etc, they are all vast expanses of empty space.

Saraki vs Saraki.

[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=609024.msg7782935#msg7782935 date=1298420392]That is the dream, right there, visit your Senator and Governor ASAP, I'll visit mine too [/quote]It is too important to be left to political sharks and should be a grassroots facebook/twitter sort of thing. It should be organised from outside the system by pressure groups similar to SNG (but not led by anyone with an eye on political position).
We need to begin taking full advantage of political providence to raise our stake in the country. There is no time better than now to push different progressive agenda's.

alj harem:
you basta.rd shut up

No better way to signal loss of an argument! Lol

Dis NL sef! One day, one day pesin go wound wit laf!

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If my argument was with alj harem alone, I'd have won resoundingly. The thing of note though is, sadly harems type form the majority in the North; there is an educated and progressive group, but they are stifled and voiceless.

These are your only points harem disagrees with:

2. Alien religions do not take priority to the Welfare of Black Africans.
3. The Nation State we find ourselves in are more important than the foreign religions we have adopted.

In other words, religion is more important than the welfare of his fellow man and is considered above the state. A very dangerous and eye opening view; it is easy to see why there will be no Egypt style revolution in the North.

[quote author=Kilode?! link=topic=609024.msg7773821#msg7773821 date=1298305402]You are not lying at all. I just hope we will take advantage of the windfall. I'm not confident about that.

Bloomberg has a similar report out today on the effects of the mid-east crisis with crude topping $103

Nigeria will have herself to blame, if we do not take advantage.[/quote][quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=609024.msg7773832#msg7773832 date=1298305484]Of course Nigeria will not use the money wisely.

Nigerian politicians are probably salivating of all the money they will making, due to the Mideast crisis now that the revolutions are moving towards oil producing Mid-east states. [/quote]Then we must begin to press govt right from this moment to put programmes and strategies in place, cos its certain that business will never be the same agin in the Middle East. That region is in for a decade of instability in the least, I predict that Saudi will fall with a bang whithin 5 to 6 years and that events in Libya will lead to industrial levels of terrorism.

I would personally wish to see any windfall going into diversifying our economy away from oil and fixing our fake federal system.

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=610234.msg7782224#msg7782224 date=1298410304]People tend to underestimate the strength of Boko Haram and its widespread appeal. They target everyone from their own politicians and outsiders. There will be an uprising in the North, and the Emirs and the political leadership will ask for the South's help. However, they allowed their region to go underdeveloped so they have to be prepared for the consequences.

No region in the Nigeria is in such dire straits as compared to the North. Too many hungry mouths up there who can turn on their leadership.[/quote]The North can only be moved to largescale uprising through religion, not because they are poor. If there is ever such largescale demonstrations in the North, the South would already be up in flames, cos thats where it will be led from. Our mini revo's have always started up between Benin and Lagos and our educated radicals tend to come mainly from the SW and old Midwest areas, not from the North (except the likes of Aminu Kano).

^
I think you are quite sick bringing my name into every topic that doesn't self-service your sick fancy.

For your info, I have always taken a stern position against those who split Nigerians into "diaspric" and home based (we are all equally Nigeria).

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=610234.msg7782160#msg7782160 date=1298409664]That is true, but currently, the Imams are aligned with the political leadership and the emirs. A pious Imam could lead a revolution in that region, just like Uthman dan Fodio did over 200 years ago. [/quote]It will only look like another Boko Haram uprising. The North is in no position to rise against its elite, an uprising is more likely from the South and traditionally, the South has always led the way in such events, from NLC actions to student riots to the June 12th uprising.

[quote author=EzeUche_ link=topic=610234.msg7782105#msg7782105 date=1298409218]Well their Imams are not illiterate though. They are actually quite educated, and they know how to control their people. The Emirs and the politicians know it is the Imams who hold the real power in the North. That is why they try to keep their support.[/quote]The machinery that created the almajiri system will never use it to destroy itself, someone else has to sieze control.

9ijaMan:
Sai Buhari
Sai Bakare
Vote BB2011

We are not Hausa people.