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1025:
@beaf and high chief,
is it possible that both of u do not know that if FBI is looking for anybody here, he cannot go to any piblic place talkless of contesting elections here? usa and nigeria has relationships that can warrant fbi come here and take aware anyone that is on their wanted list.
i wish to inform you also that atiku has an american university here in nigeria so i still will be happy if your jonathan will provide answers to the questions raised by atiku.
obviously, both u and jonathan have nothing to offer outside insults.
i am from imo state and i will till tomorrow tell u that jonathan has proved that he is not that messiah we have been waiting for.
obasanjo wanted a rubber stamp to aid his continious third term agenda and in jonathan he finds that because no igboman will be that loyal to the end.

Dude, I am not in charge of US policy.
The US senate saw it fit to investigate Atiku, the FBI too has seen it fit to investigate Atiku; Atiku's wife, Jennifer hastily sold up their Potomac house and fled to Dubai.
If the above doesn't ring several bells to you, nothing will.

Its so funny that Atiku too can ask questions. He has no right to.

tkb417:
the extermination of those blood sucking militants and the demystification of people like IBB and OBJ

hes the fckin President. He shd try the Abacha methods

it works wonders!!

lmao

You aren't being practical. We have a democracy, not a dictatorship, so we cannot keep dreaming of Abacha methods. By the way, those are the very same methods that got Nigeria in the mess it is in today. Why ask for the same?

For practical reasons, nobody will take radical actions in an election year, especially one in which power has just been siezed from a very deeply entrenched cabal. GEJ has actually performed very creditably in the way he has quietly nursed the country from the brink of potential disaster to normalcy. How many months ago was Yar Adua smuggled back into the country? It isn't even last year!

Jonathan needs a four year stretch ahead of him and then he can damn the consequences. If he does that now, all his energy will be wasted. Its called, "more haste, less speed."

"Softly, softly, catch monkey!"

tkb417:
see brother

i dont want Atiku but GEJ should show some guile and be ruthless in some of his dealings

i dont want no ninny in aso rock abeg

GEJ is a quiet man which isn't a sin except in Nigeria. If you look back on some of his actions, you will find heavy does of steel and backbone; the easiest to point out is the reorganisation of the army; many seasoned watchers likened it to a coup, but GEJ was totally quiet about it. If you ask me, that is what Nigeria needs, we need to move away from gra gra and start behaving like human beings. There is a vast difference between the way a typical Nigerian behaves and someone from any other country; we need to change!  we need to embrace modern, civilised ways of getting things done.

The problem is not GEJ, but Nigerians and their "do you know who I am?" type attitude. That too, needs to go in the bin. We need to change, and the best person to bring about such change is the one who does it without our realising it, suddenly we'll wake up in 3 years time and think, "Jesus! We really used to be raw so raw!"

rasputinn:
Atiku is a wanted man in the US for activities bothering on fraud and money laundering,will an Atiku presidency opt to do without the US,wont he need to be at the UN general assembly?

The man is a moral baggage abeg,Gusau would even have been better than him,just that peeps must play politics with politics to suit their whims and caprices

I'm sure some would imagine that we can have some funny relations with Iran, Saudi, China, North Korea etc. . . But thats when we will learn why the US is the Worlds only super power, whose hunger for oil can move mountains.

tkb417:



Atiku goes in and out of United States of America without any difficulty

Thats a lie! Atiku cannot visit the US; the day he attempts it, he will be locked up. Where is he even gonna stay if he visits? Just a few weeks ago, he's wife Jennifer sold their $1.7million Potomac house and fled the US for Dubai. This thing was on CNN, so I don'y know where you get the fairy tale that Atiku can visit the US,

@yemi313
I'm not here to impress fools. I couldn't care less about what you think.

Interesting comment on a news article. . .

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In any case, the decision of the PDP to screen its presidential candidates is the right one and ultimately good for the country. The party, indeed any party fielding a presidential candidate, owes it to its members and ultimately to the country to present a relatively decent, credible and clean candidate. [b]Atiku’s FBI dossier handed over to Obasanjo regarding Atiku’s malfeasances as vice president in his shady dealings with disgraced Congressman Jefferson of the US should be made available to the screening committee. This stinking dossier should disqualify Atiku from the Nigerian Presidency. The committee must extract from him an explanation as to why one of his wives is a fugitive from the law in the US. President Jonathan is demonstrably a nice guy and has said time and again that he intends for the coming presidential contest to be clean and fair, but he owes Nigerians, especially those who hunger for a new era without the baggage from the past represented in people like Atiku, a duty to hand over the FBI dossier to the committee. Several years ago, the distinguished American general and statesman, Colin Powell, in the US newspaper , The Washington Post, expressed disgust at the contents of Babangida’s and Abacha’s FBI and CIA files. As the then chair of the American Joint Chiefs of Staff, he most certainly knew what he was talking about. President Jonathan as a matter of urgency must make a formal request to President Obama for the release of Babangida’s files as well, so as to make them available to the committee[/b]. In the oft repeated words of the President, Nigeria cannot continue with “more of the same” from the born to rule crowd while the rest of the world marches on to better socioeconomic development, better politics and promising futures for their future generations.

http://thenationonlineng.net/web3/news/18937.html

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Do you mind the clown? Some folk just can't seem to talk sensibly!
Imagine suggesting that Atiky should be a no go area for discussion, someone who has exported his theft craft all over the Globe, to the extent that he is wanted in the US.

The land use and petroleum acts have served as vehicles to steal the land, rivers, streams, dignity, humanity and income of the Niger Delta.
The lands and water ways are siezed by government fiat and then polluted without a care in the World. It is a level of wickedness that is mind boggling and totally shocking in the way it is perpetrated by citizens of the same country on others.

It is a very serious human rights issue that will one day consume this country if equity and compensation are not provided.

Reallikeity:
All d people in dis thread ar fools and wicked,especially d non igbo's.D sw reasons so poorly like there brains & d north so wicked like dere religion.U people misunderstood d igbo's cos we don't need anything president & we ar better of but we a credible person there some1 like gej dat has all it takes 2 move dis country forward like ghana.Remeber ibo's voted obj in but he was a disgrace 2 nationality & such a mistake we don't again

Seriously, I am your daddy and I've posted on this thread.

fstranger:
Look Atiku is never going to be arrested; OBJ was not arrested.
America is a funny place; all Atiku needs is a lawyer who has connections and NOTHING will ever come out of his pending case.
He prolly has a diplomatic passport, which makes it unlawful for the US to arrest him, under any circumstance.

As for being the face of the cabal, that is absolutely true. You have to be one of them to stand up to them.
GEJ always looks lost. He does not seem to be in control. If you do not understand the system, how do you change the system?

Anyway, it is not up to you and me to decide who becomes the next president. OBJ knows who the next president is.
IMO, IBB is still going to be our next president. He is still the best option for us as a nation. And, he is the best we've ever produced.

I am not sure how it will happen, I still feel that IBB is somehow going to find a way back to Asorock. Wanna bet?

The same bereft argument might have been made for Manuel Noriega who was picked up by the US, even though he was a sitting president. He's been cooling off in a US penitentiary ever since.
Atiku will be picked up as soon as the US can grab him. In fact, the US govt announced on news channels just last month that they are watching every move he and his wife Jennifer make with eagle eyes. When the US want you, they get you regardless of puny legalities (its a superpower); its only a matter of when, not if for Mr and Mrs Atiku:

[size=14pt]The U.S. and Panama: Legal Issues; Scholars Say Arrest of Noriega Has Little Justification in Law[/size]
By NEIL A. LEWIS, Special to The New York Times
Published: January 10, 1990

WASHINGTON, Jan. 9 — The apprehension of Gen. Manuel Antonio Noriega on drug charges is largely unprecedented and was basically a blunt political act with only an after-the-fact legal rationale, several legal scholars say.

Some even said that to find a direct precedent one would have to go back more than two millenia: when the ancient Romans brought back in chains leaders of conquered lands. It is an image brought to mind by the pictures of General Noriega being shackled in the hold of a C-130 aircraft as he was brought to United States soil last week.

The official United States position is that he was not seized but rather surrendered voluntarily. Yet no United States official seriously argues in private that the General was not coerced into surrendering American military authorities.

No Change in Prosecution

Officials also said the General was not arrested until he was aboard the American aircraft. Bruce Zagaris, a Washington lawyer who is chairman of an American Bar Association panel on international criminal law, disputed that contention, saying the arrest occurred when General Noriega was taken into custody and deprived of his liberty.

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/01/10/us/us-panama-legal-issues-scholars-say-arrest-noriega-has-little-justification-law.html

As for IBB, he's sure to die a slow and horrible death, punished by the blood of many innocent souls.

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. . .Just when I thought Atiku was the face of the cabal. How can Atiku fight himself?
And about "looking presidential", maybe he will look that way on the day the FBI arrests him in a foreign country. I recall how Charles Taylor looked really presidential _{whilst practicing canibalism}.

Blazay:
Shhhaaarap.
This thread is about the Nigerian s-election process and the propaganda associated with it.
What is new about money laundering?
Is it not a Nigerian tradition?

Is that criterion(correction noted from my resident English teacher fstranger on NL ) for disqualifying Atiku?

You small, "tight" piece of nama excrement.

Dimwit. The thread is about Atiku. But you are too much of a dunce to read titles.
You missing link between ape and dog!

Even with a million enemies of progress like you and the thief, Atiku, this country will find a way forward. We will defeat all winshes.

silami:
And this happened when? don't tell me 2006, because that will make the most unintelligent poster of the day! for your information, Atiku comes in and out of US 2 to 3 times a month. why do the why is he being cleared at the boarder if he is truly wanted by FBI?

Dude, I'm talking this year. You've just confirmed the beer palour as your source of news. The day Atiku steps into the US will be the last day his family will see him for many years (maybe, like 14).

Blazay:
Maybe both.
Just give us another reason why you think your Jonathan is better than Atiku.
Please, stop starting threads with useless propaganda against Atiku.
Especially when we all know that one is just as corrupt as the other within the same PDP.

As to the bolded, please accept my sympathy, life must be quite difficult difficult when you wake every morning realising you are daft. There is no punishment worse than dealing with a dimwit.

In case it hasn't occurred to you, this thread is about Atiku; its easy to create your very own Jonathan thread (if thats what you prefer); but I assume you lack the ability.

Address issues like the one below (one of several) or crawl right back under your slimy rock:

A recent United States Senate report accused Atiku Abubakar and his wife Jennifer Douglas of laundering over $40 million in suspicious funds into the United States between 2000 and 2008. The report further stated that most of the funds were through wire transfers sent by offshore corporations to U.S. bank accounts. Of the $40 million identified in the US investigation, $25 million was reportedly wire-transferred by offshore corporations into more than 30 U.S. bank accounts opened by Atiku’s wife (Ms. Douglas).

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Wow! Were you born daft, or are you just play acting?

silami:
typical Nigerian aswering questions with another question. Where are your facts? because if it is true he is wanted by FBI he cant come to USA freely, which he does frequently. Please you can you help GEJ to answer those questions. thanks

Are you kidding?
Perhaps, you are more in tune with beer palour news, otherwise you would have learnt how Jennifer Atiku fled the US for Dubai after hurriedly selling off their $1.7milla Potomac mansion and of course, you would have learnt how Atiku's every financial dealing is being tracked by the eagle eyes of the FBI. Above all, you would have learnt that has Atiku become a top of the agenda item for the US govt with senate probes hanging around his neck.

The FBI is waiting for the slightest opportunity to lay its long arms around Atiku. Imagine the man winning the elections, only for him to be arrested by the FBI on an airport runway, despite being the president of Nigeria. The Noriega treatment!

No way!

Date Published: 11/01/10
[size=14pt]Will The Real Abubakar Atiku, Please Stand up[/size]
Written By Felix Ayanruoh Esq.

On Election Day would Nigerians be happier that former Vice President Abubakar Atiku contested and won the 2011 presidential elections? This is an important question that needs sober reflection by well meaning Nigerians. This is a man that has not only spent years trying to fool everybody in sight with his phony-baloney, dime-store philosophies; he’s now trapped in the patently pathetic phase of fooling himself with the politics of contradictions and zoning.

Mr. Wale Akinola in his article (published by the Vanguard of Sunday July 09, 2006, How I made my money by Atiku Abubakar) wrote, “ Many know that the vice president Atiku Abubakar is a wealthy man. They also know that he had acquired considerable wealth prior to the time he became the nations number two man”. He went further to state that Atiku’s personal wealth is a result of his passion for entrepreneurship, wise investment, hard work, and luck.

[size=14pt]Surely, Atiku must be a rare gem in public service to amass such massive wealth as a result of the qualities he claimed to have possessed. It is a known fact that the former vice president was the controller of the Nigerian Customs and Exercise. It is also commonplace that it was during his tenure and remit at the Nigerian Customs and Exercise that the infamous “53 suitcase” scandal involving the emir of Gwandu occurred; and he would have been prosecuted but for the unfortunate coup of General Ibrahim Babangida.

A recent United States Senate report accused Atiku Abubakar and his wife Jennifer Douglas of laundering over $40 million in suspicious funds into the United States between 2000 and 2008. The report further stated that most of the funds were through wire transfers sent by offshore corporations to U.S. bank accounts. Of the $40 million identified in the US investigation, $25 million was reportedly wire-transferred by offshore corporations into more than 30 U.S. bank accounts opened by Atiku’s wife (Ms. Douglas).

Atiku’s corrupt practices was also stated in a 2008 civil complaint, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission alleged that the Atikus received over $2 million in bribe payments in 2001 and 2002, from Siemens AG, a major German corporation.

The report stated,  “While Ms. Douglas denies wrongdoing, Siemens has already pled guilty to U.S. criminal charges and settled civil charges related to bribery and told the Subcommittee that it sent the payments to one of her U.S. accounts.”

One and a half years after becoming vice president, Atiku violated our laws by purchasing a mansion in Potomac, Maryland United States for one million, seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars ($1,750,000). This two storey building was purchased in the name of Jennifer E. Douglas, Atiku’s wife. Part One of the fifth schedule to the 1999 constitution prohibited, in part, public officers from having bank account and owning assets abroad. This is a clear reflection of who Alhaji Atiku is all about.[/size]

Also, he used President Obasanjo's privatization scheme to his advantage and to the detriment of the Nigerian people. With close ties to the various managing directors of the Bureau of Public Enterprise, who serves as the secretariat of the National Council on Privatization and is charged with the overall responsibility of implementing the council's policies on privatization and commercialization of the Federal government of Nigeria, Atiku purchased huge enterprises and public agencies for far less than their actual worth.

The Petroleum Technology Development Fund scandal is also fresh in our memory. The Fund is dedicated to the development, promotion, and implementation of petroleum technology and manpower development through research and training of Nigerians as graduate, professional, technician and craftsmen in the relevant fields in the petroleum and solid minerals industry.

The former Vice President, who supervised the fund, used it to finance his private enterprise. It should be recalled that both a government panel and an Economic and Financial Crimes Commission panel found Atiku guilty of diverting funds meant for the Fund's operations nationwide to various banks to promote his private interests. The Vice President used US$10 million of the US$125 million fund as collateral in support of a loan of N1.2 billion granted to Otumba Oyewole Fasawe (his associate) by the Trans International bank in Lagos. The financial gain made by the Vice President from Fasawe over the loan was paid into Atiku's Campaign Organization account with Bank PHB.

In early 2006, the US Federal Bureau of Investigation raided Atiku's home in Washington, USA, over allegation of involvement with Mr. William Jefferson, a US Congressman, in a US $500,000 bribe over a telecommunications deal in Nigeria. The FBI alleges in a US court to have found US $90,000, of the bribe money concealed in a freezer in the office of Mr. Jefferson. When accosted with these serious allegations, Vice President Atiku said that the allegations are unworthy of considerations.

How would a vice president of a democratic republic call the allegation and investigation of corruption involving a United States congressman and impropriety regarding a governmental fund as in this case, “The Petroleum Trust Development Fund” unworthy of consideration? The vice president in his letter said, “Firstly I will repeat that I have said time and time again regarding Congressman William Jefferson – I did not have any relationship with Congressman Jefferson other than the usual courtesies which someone in my position will be expected to extend to someone in Congressman Jefferson’s position”.

Maybe I am naïve as to the diplomatic nuances of official etiquette.

The New York Times of June 7, 2006 entitled (Documents Point to Bribes of a Nigerian by Congressman) states, “…The documents included an affidavit signed by FBI agent who said that the Nigerian vice president, Atiku Abubakar, now a candidate for president of that oil-rich West African nation, asked for at least half of the profit of a technology company controlled by Mr. Jefferson that was seeking to do business in Nigeria….” The article further stated that, “In the affidavit an FBI agent Edward S. Cooper, said cell phone records suggested that Mr. Jefferson visited a home owned by Mr. Abubakar and his wife in Potomac, MD an affluent suburb of Washington, around midnight last July 31 with the intention of delivering money to the Nigerian leader while he was on visit to the United States….” The former vice president begged the question instead of explaining to the National Assembly and the Nigerian people the nature of diplomacy he was conducting at the unholy hour of MIDNIGHT.

Edward Weidenfeld, the vice president’s Washington lawyer in an interview with the Washington Post of July 22, 2006 entitled (Nigerian Entangled in Jefferson Investigation), repeated the vice presidents earlier statement that the only thing the vice president ever received from Jefferson in the unholy hour were letters promoting IGate telecommunication deals. The vice president in his letter to the National Assembly omitted that fact.

Instead of running for president, Atiku should be explaining to Nigerians why his name always comes up when the issue of corruption is raised, that is, involvement in “the 53 suitcase” the corruption while at Customs, the acquisition of the Potomac Maryland Mansion (prohibited by the Nigerian constitution), the beating of a journalist, the privatization of public companies, Halliburton Scandal and the present United States Senate’s Report among others.

Felix Ayanruoh Esq.

fayanruoh@yahoo.com

http://www.pointblanknews.com/Articles/artopn3244.html

Beafs question to Atiku:
Sir, why are you and wife wanted by the FBI?

jason12345:
. pls check the i.p address and tell me what you notice!

@ my comment
beaf, we have to learn not to look at situations from one point of view.

Anybody that knows what to do can post from almost any IP.

The demon, IBB is now a victim of Ciroma as well.

The blood of numerous innocent souls is calling IBB.

Innocent blood is calling IBB, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling, calling. . .

. . .Doom!

Just a theory; jason = abagworo = harem. The similarities are too great.

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Now, that is quite alarming! 2011 promises to be out of this World, the good thing is that the authorities will have pointers to where and from whom problems can arise.

For the anointed aspirant, there are many battles ahead. On Monday, there was a report that northern governors might pick the governor of Abubakar’s state, Adamawa, Muritala Nyanko as their aspirant. The relationship between the governor and the former vice-president is anything but smooth.

Damn! Are they actually contemplating picking a totally unpredictable guy to fight an international money launderer? 2011 could be a blockbuster!

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What are you talking about? Supporting who? Dude, did you forget your tablets again?

alj harem:
can u tell me when we ever supported ciroma,,,,,, we northerners are not trablistic as u people

we think of progress of the country first before others

it is just the bad leaders that have labeled us bad and backward

Silence is acquiescence. When did you ever deny him that you're now crying over spilt milk?

Its a bit late to disown Ciroma.

It would have been understandable if this article had come from the likes of Tsiya, Mai Suya, MShitu or other well meaning Northerners; but you've spent all your time uselessly fighting those who are very deeply frustrated at Ciroma and his likes. Ironic.

If there had been a loud and timely outcry from those Ciroma claims to represent, he wouldn't nearly have come this far. I'm sure some only kept quiet, because they silently hoped their choice would be picked by Ciroma.

Listen dispassionately to what others are saying.

DapoBear:
Beaf, are you secretly the commander of MEND, lol? Everyone seems to look to you as an authority on this issue.

Na! I'm just your everyday Wafi guy.
One of my parents village (if it can still be called that) is from bang in the middle of Warri, which means I get to learn some firsthand info; so I can supply pretty accurate gist most times.

[quote author=bk.babe97y link=topic=554994.msg7203831#msg7203831 date=1290545138]STFU, U freaking imbeci*le! Always coming on NL trying to prove intellectual superiority over others. Internet Einstein! Another potential Emegweali! Do u notice how much I ignore u?lol. Fool.

Again, I see only 3 names, are u gonna do us all a favor now and kill urself, u fool?! See how it feels now when u ignore the truth against your god (GEJ)?!

Hahahahaha. I see 3 names. . . . . [/quote][size=14pt]I see you are feeling insecure!!![/size]

[quote author=bk.babe97y link=topic=554994.msg7203756#msg7203756 date=1290544422]Yeah, I still see 3 names! All Ibo names. . . .

u gonna kill urself now?[/quote]No, your drugs will kill you person!

[quote author=bk.babe97y link=topic=554994.msg7203678#msg7203678 date=1290543673]Names all look the same: Funny to pronounce, hard to look at! I still INSIST I highlighted 3 names, u dont like it u know what to do when your mouth is around the barrel of that Mac-Milli!

Lol. Funny that whenever u aint trying to beg GEJ, via email, to be his personal diyyck-slurper, your busy stalking a fellow man. . . . . wow!

3 names nigga, u can kill urself now![/quote]Ntinulu-Ojulu Michael Papulu Chukwu
Isiwele Gabriel Hase
Amen Peace
Agwu Daniel Okafor

3 names?
Too many drugs and and too much gutter water for sniffing in Colombia!!

[size=14pt]Dude, we are still searching for your brain. . . And its a damn tough job!!![/size]

[img]http://visionhelp.files./2010/08/boy-with-magnifying-glass.jpg[/img]

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No, it means you are too ignorant to comment on Nigerian issues. Some might treat you with kid gloves while others will lose patience.

Dude, you are reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally ignorant. Please don't keep hacking at it, cos it just keeps sounding worse. You really shouldn't comment on things you don't know about.

[quote author=bk.babe97y link=topic=554994.msg7203614#msg7203614 date=1290542917]. . . . yeah, out of[b] THREE[/b] NAMES!!![/quote]This fool doesn't even know how to count.

Fool, you highlighted four names! Drop the crack and you might count better.