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Cos Chyz gave Obj's political ND, not the geographical one (Delta, Bayelsa, Rivers).

igbobuigbo:
This is irredeemable, eternal ignorance. Edo is SS and not SW.

Damn!

jason12345:
i think they know that the sw (including ondo and edo) would only vote for their own (ACN) and the SS would vote for GJ so they need atleast ONE geopolitical zone in the south to win the election those are my thought

Edo is not a SW state. They are SS.
Also, ACN has not presidential candidate yet (they are torn between Ribadu, Buhari and a couple of others). In the presidential elections, the SW will go solidly GEJ, governorship, rep, senate etc are totally different.

amingafar:
This beaf is writing a check he cannot cash
just to let you kno if GEJ emerges as PDP flag bearer there will not be any zoning presidency to SE till 2023 even if Jonatan loses presidential election to Buhari Ribadu donald duke dele momodu or wole soyinka himself.

dont let beaf fool you the best thing for ibo to do is put 1 foot in and the other out.

. . .The smell of fear and desperation.

amingafar:
when Jonathan is no longer president you will go back to being the same.

You are so damn funny! Between now and 2015, we will move things from mere political boardgames to all inclusive cultural events and exchanges. I really don't think you have a clue about the dommant bonds between SE and SS. You have no clue dude!

mikeansy:
Can you please pull up my previous post on Nairaland where I have suggested the bit in bold?

Before electoral act, my debate was If zoning was the only way we could do politics in Nigeria then lets have it in the electoral act otherwise lets discard zoning entirely. Electoral act came and went nobody included zoning in the electoral act and since then I have opposed zoning.

So only you will know how you arrived at that conclusion.

All I have maintained and continued to maintain is that Jonathan has not proved he is up to the job. And I still maintain that.

So you can continue doing what Jonathan and his blind supporters do which is to accuse anyone who does not jump on their band wagon to either being IBB supporter, or Northern supporter or to have taken bribe.

Once upon a time you were among those that were accused of being[b] IBB supporter[/b] merely because you question Jonathan's leadership, its amazing that you have now gone full circle and now assume anyone who does not jump on your band wagon of the same thing you were once accused.

My argument on this issue is in Ohaneze, there are PDP, APGA, PPA, ACN members in Ohaneze Ndigb. What brings them together is common language and culture. It is not the place of Ohaneze to endorse any candidate. That has been my argument. If that means supporting Northern candidates to you then thats your problem.

I owe Jonathan no responsibility to support him if I believe that he is not up to the job. I do not wish to do so either because Onlytruth and Uwechue says so.

Lol @ bolded!!!!!!!
I can't seem to recall anyone mentioning IBB, is that the koko of your issue's?

Anyways, the times when we sold our inheritance to the core North for free have passed. The political landscape has changed dramatically by providence. . . And here we are, armed with hammers, chisels and in the odd instance, earth moving equipment; here we are grabbing the responsibilities providence has placed on shoulders; here we are, moulding Nigeria into what it should be; here we are, flooding through the gates Jonathan has opened, waving nay sayers and the sluggish bye.
Never again!

This is just the foolish sun news broadcasting fake stories again. Even the militants themselves confirmed that they came under attack and abandoned the camp where the hostages were held, leaving only a few fighters who didn't resist. JTF later arrested 63 of the fckers.

Onlytruth:
And why are you so concerned about Igbo political fortunes in Nigeria?
Why is this Igbo support of Jonathan troubling you so much?

Believe me, any smart Igbo can see through your fake love.
If Jonathan loses, then so be it! We are still Nigerians aren't we? We will still present one of us (Easterners) again in 2015. QED.  

Exactly! By cooperating, we only get stronger. If we lose today, relations would have been mended for tomorrows fight.

jason12345:
@ onlytruth

the reasons stated above is the reason why i said you are looking at it from a sentimental point of view not political._{pls, no insults. lets have an intelligent discussion}

And when did politics become a logical game? Politics is about society, how individuals and groups key in to make changes. Society is 50% sentiment, any politician that hits the wrong note is doomed.

In this argument, I side entirely with OnlyTruth and Uduzue. Their ideas are practical and will appeal to the man on the street; but above all, they are contributing intelligently and solidly to a SE - SS rapport; something that should have come naturally, but has been missing due to past missteps. We have always been easy pickings for the core North, in this dispensation, the tables must turn and we must sieze our right and stand our ground.

. . .He that pays the piper disctates the tune, anything short of that is abnormal.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=554699.msg7189196#msg7189196 date=1290366753]This is an eyewitness account of Araba, which took place in kaduna before the civil war. Araba means (let's share it) in hausa. Chuckwuma Nzeogwu led a coup wherein the most revered leader of the northerners, the Sadauna of Sokoto was killed while he slept. Sadauna had a home in Kaduna which was bombed by the coupists resulting to the cold blooded murder of Sadauna and the members of his family who were at the house during the bombing. This singular act of murder did not sit very well with Sadauna's subjects - they believed wholeheartedly that the coup was carried out by Igbos and was a declaration of war in which a retaliation was mandatory.

The following is a miniaturized account of an eyewitness to one such retaliatory act.

[b]The elders decided on a day in which a house to house search would be conducted in Kaduna, for Ndigbos who had not yet fled the city. Every suspect would be shown the old three pence, and asked to identify the coin. Three pence was called Toro by all and sundry in kaduna, the Igbos however pronounced Toro as Tolo. Once a suspect is found and identified as Igbo by anyone in the Araba mob, he/she was summarily beaten to death, burnt in some cases, and all of the belongings found in the victims' houses were looted (hence Araba). Those that pronounced toro as tolo were also summarily beaten to death.

The mob went from street to street, house to house, in search of Igbos, killing the unlucky ones that could not escape. The most interesting thing about the mod is that, well over 50% was made up of Yorubas, old Mid Westerners, and other southerners who were eager to participate in the araba and possibly save their own skins. These non Northerners were the first to shout yamiri or throw the first stone. They also did most of the looting.

My brother, it is amazing what a mod can do. Many people who, under normal conditions were angels, became animals. May this never happen again in Nigeria. [/b]


This eyewitness account should serve as a warning to other Delta Igbos and Delta Non-Igbos, who like their fellow kinsman, Nzeogwu Chukwuma Kaduna, could act foolishly and cause similar Arabas or worse to recurr. Let us hope GEJ would thread very lightly. It is not too late for him to withdraw from the presidential race. A gentleman's agreement should be just that. As OBJ would say, this is not the time for rascality.


Nwata erughi eru juwa ihe mere nna,ihe mere nna ya emee ya (A child must wait until he is of age before inquiring into what killed his father or else,what killed his father will also kill him).[/quote]https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?action=post;topic=554699.0;num_replies=12#top

This article has got to be one of the most hate filled threats to violence ever on NL.
Mods, please move this to the racism and tribalism section, or better still, delete it entirely.

Poor Fulani fcker, raking up ethnic bigotry and crass muck, because of loss of free oil!
I cannot recall ever seeing such primitive and depraved article anywhere on NL.

Mods, please move this to the racism and tribalism section.

But actually my principal objective in this write-up is not even to counter Kiswahili or to uplift Hausa and challenge the status of Yoruba and Igbo but to advocate for all the languages of Nigeria and to shout loud and clear that the worst failure of the nation in its 50 years of its lame history is its failure to uplift the national languages to a level of functional relevance and significance in our national life! This is all the more worrisome because all indicators point to the fact that the borrowed official language of the nation, English, has woefully failed our developmental needs. But our slavish mentality has tied us eternally to the shackles of foreign languages

Then, let pidgin English be our lingua franca! We can change its name to something more fitting if need be.
Pidgin English is the closest thing to our traditional language structure, it is spoken all over the country and is ethnically neutral.

amingafar:
beaf dishonest militant

Where is Ibrahim Badamasi Babangida from?

I am from Minna. We have roots in Sokoto…

Means you were originally Fulani?

No, I am Gwari or what you call Gbagi (laughter).

As i explained to you most northerners an muslim have fulani roots

. . .But, I have seen many people on NL accuse you of lying that you are from the North.
Charlie, sharrap! You are from Nnewi!

jason12345:
pls, i do not know much about the politics over there. i only spent 6 yrs in lagos. i am just analysing based on what i read on the papers.

What?!!! I take it you were brought up abroad then?
You should visit home more often. You really need to, because if your dad isn't Yoruba or Egun, you will need to be familiar with your roots for one or two things in the future. Even if its your mum thats Itsekiri, please still make it a point of duty to spend time in Delta state and get to know what is going down.

amingafar:
pdp is not a northern party anpp is and pdp was never suppose to be permanent it was drawn up over night to install obasanjo and the for him to givve us back power.

half of the north meaning minorities as well as fulanis here and there did moshood not win in northern states

ibb didnt muscle anything like most northerners he assimilated into mainstream northern/hausa culture

IBB, in his last interview with pointblank news, made the statement that his roots are in Sokoto. It confirmed a long held belief that IBB is a Fulani man.

http://www.pointblanknews.com/Interviews/os4192.html

jason12345:
it is just edo state that i know of. . . . and may be delta

jason12345:
have you not noticed that the bond between the south west and the edo and delta (itsekiri) is growing? do you know that the present governor of edo is from the ACN party and he is not doing badly (so he would probably be re-elected)?. these are just my thoughts.

Dude, are you actually from Delta state? The above two statements make me uneasy and cause very real doubts.

buzugee:
gets me all the time 

what is he carrying ? and where is he carrying it to ?

Na di tins we dash am im go carry waka go home!
Happy birthday Presido! 2011? Carry go!

The Independent is Ibori's paper, isn't it?

Funny people, funny thread.

I have noticed that the posters on this thread tend to be the very same people who declared that Chima Orlu and Ben Jessy were fake. . . That was until the lead terrorist mentioned them in a sworn affidavit; in fact, he went so far as to say the Chima Orlu once lived with him. In other words, most posters on this thread are people who either feed on rumour, or bigotry, or they are the types who rush to conclusions only to look silly later.

6 people have been arrested for carrying out the recent kidnappings, while another 51 have been arrested for habouring the hostages. Will our usual rumour mongers be patient enough to hear the results of investigations? No! I guess pepper soup joint level chatter serves them better.

I repeat, anybody fighting in the creeks now is either an armed robber or if they claim to be MEND, then they are sponsored. Period.

candylips:
the only java 5 feature that i can think of  that supports your argument is generics and it is a c++ concept  not c sharp .

I feel we'll soon be seeing lamba's, LINQ, delegates, automatic properties, partial methods, extension methods. conditional compilation and many others joining generics as Java struggles to catch up with C#.

I have little blame for the journalist or the kids.
The journalist is just your average, ignorant man on the street. I absolutely blame the teachers and the school for wheeling out such an incredible hoax and painting a false picture to the press. There is no excuse under the sun for propagating fraudulent stories.

The story and the students work were projected in a very fraudulent light. It is like 419, kids should never be made to partake in fraud of any nature.

Happy birthday Mr President! May your days be long!
2011 na your own. Carry go!

ROSSIKE:
Beaf, I think you're wrong in stating that free energy technologies are all fraudulent.

In fact, you are very very wrong my friend.

There is a LOT of suppressed technology out there - suppressed because making it widely available would end the wealth of the tiny minority who milk us by our dependence on their costly, fuel-based technologies, from cars to airplanes.

There might be what you call "suppressed technologies." but that is totally different from free energy or anything that breaks the law of conservation of energy, or the first or second laws of thermodynamics; everything in that group (eg the perpetual motion machine of the current topic) is a hoax.

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That was just one in the left eye for Java lovers.

jason12345:
it is not rubbish, they actually built a "fuel-less" generator (no hydrocarbons involved) and i would commend them for that

This is why I asked if the kids should be taught 419 too, cos it works on well on the gullible.

'"fuel-less" generator (no hydrocarbons involved),' yet they get a current from somewhere?

. . .And, in science, fuel does not mean hydrocarbons, a fuel is anything that can generate energy in a system.

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What do you mean? How I take kolo?
Na jason12345 de kolo seriously!

jason12345:
i would prefer if we can use the media to build the confidence of today's kids. if its is propaganda, i would support it.
this kids are smart and the least we can do is encourage them. thats just my opinion.

So why not teach them 419 as well, if such rubbish is acceptable?

DapoBear:
^--- Think you are overreacting. It is still a nice science fairish sort of project, but shouldn't have been hyped that much by the newspaper.

I'm not. No school should teach kids falsehoods. Perpetual motion machines, free energy concepts etc always fall under the categoryof scientific hoaxes. It is a crime for a school to be involved in such.

jason12345:
i am sure what they meant by fuel-less generator was a generator without the use of hydrocarbons eg petrol or kerosine

They meant what we can read from the article and it really is rubbish. And what they meant is that they have succeeded in propagating pseudo-science through the minds of young children.
The whole affair is disgraceful and condemnable.

The able kids need to be taken from that sham environment and sent to better schools. In other countries, that school would be in danger of closing down for hubris, while the principal and staff concerned would never ever be able to teach again in any capacity.

I'm sorry to burst you guys bubble, but a so called "fuelless" generator or any other perpetual motion device is impossible.
Nothing can break the law of conservation of energy.

Nigerians are always taken in by incomplete explanations and tricks. The school and its teachers should be given very dirty slaps for decieving those poor kids.

joefazee:
did i understand you very well trying to compare .NET and Java, .NET is not a programming language, .NET is a framework (some well organized classes), and Java is a pure programming language so if we want to compare language we should compare C++ with Java or VB with Java and not comparing framework with programming language.

Frameworks are created in programming languages as a library that can be implemented by many languages. hey, to me, .NET is just a library, as a PHP programming i can use Zend or Codeignite framework to do my thing and for Python django, plone, Twisted are all out there, so i see no reason why we should war over library verses programming language.

ONE MORE THING: there is politics behind any programming language in the world that is what i think, Microsoft till today use C/C++ for all system level applications.\

USE THE RIGHT TOOL FOR THE RIGHT JOB.

But Java runs off a library too. No?
What are the Java runtime, virtual machine, Java Class Library etc? They are all encapsualted in a bundle called the Java Platform. Sun holds the patents.

Comparing .NET (C#) and Java almost always boils down to comparing the libraries both run off. In fact, there isn't any other comparison, because C#'s syntax is miles ahead.

Where Java and .NET (C#) are concerned, it is total sacriledge to mention the likes of PHP and JavaScript. Even VB.NET is a bit of a toy in comparison.

As for the bolded, I can't for the life of me understand how you have come to the conclusion that C# cannot do system level stuff! There are experimental C# OS's by Microsoft (Singularity, based on Bartok), there are also SharpOS, Cosmos and another smaller project that begins with m (I always forget the name).

You can build C# drivers in User-Mode; http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/driver/wdf/UMDF_FAQ.mspx

Want an example of a semi-C# driver library you can poke into? http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SharpUSBLib/default.aspx

Need solid examples of C# used at a very low level?:
http://www.codeproject.com/KB/showcase/IfOnlyWedUsedANTSProfiler.aspx
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc163870.aspx

Do you need to compile C# straight down to native or to C instead of MSIL? The Gnome guys have a cross-platform C# variant called Vala that compiles to native. It works on Windows too with val(a)ide; I've got it running sweetly with Msys and Code::Blocks (I prefer it as an IDE after Val(a)ide has done its job) on a Windows 2008 box.

The long and short is, C# is no little game. Its funny that things have come full swing and the latest version of Java is based on the advances in C#.