₦airaland Forum

oyb:
back to topic,

no noise on what goes on in the nd oil spillage beacuse they have settled beafs family. how do you think the retarded dork was able to go to obodo oyinbo in the first place - certainly not on any form of academic merit, going by the uninspiring rubbish he posts on nl . now that he is there and his eyes have opened to how cheaply his family sold out(1$ hoes) , he is back agitating for more, just like his brothers in arms from mend will soon be doing, - 20 billion is what is going through all their minds right now .

Thats why you are dreaming of gassing us all isn't it? But it will be your father, mother and kids instead.

oyb:
this dolt is the only one who sees johnathan as some sort of messiah, rather than someone who just got lucky.

what is johnathans track record before now? the only thing he is known for is the incident with his wife.

he came in on the same ticket as yardua, which means he is also a beneficiary of the inec chrade. in fact, he is a beneficiary twice over, since he alos came in on alams ticket

so if you want to engage in your dreams that Johnathan will 'undo' your '54 years of neglect' keep dreaming

anyone who is hopped up enough on badly cut recreational drugs (and delusional stupidity to boot) to believe that the rest of nigeria has a final solution agenda fro his long suffering let my people go persecuted  slaves will belive that johnathan is some sort of messiah, rather than just another crooked  politician

of course, beaf is the real tribalist, which is why he can't see that, and which is why when others talk, all he sees are gas chambers

The ones you think Niger Deltans should be put in, but instead it will be your father, mother and your children.

If the three arms of government are Mark Four, AK 47 and Pump Action; I wonder what the government itself would look like.

^I'm sure you are still having wet dreams of gassing Niger Deltans (only it will be your family, instead).

Dis Guy:
OH so instead of tongue lashing the mai guard for leaving the gates wide open, and switching off the CCTV in myy house , i will blame the other people in my street for not shutting off the main gate to the street abi

You are funny. Why do you feel your area has the right to be a parasite?

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=464527.msg6238963#msg6238963 date=1276870292]I think the niger delta oil spill is not receiving much attention because they mostly occur as a result of vandalization by militants.government and oil companies insensitivity may be borne out of the recurrence of such activities of oil thieves who would do everything to steal oil without considering the repercussion on the environment.
The united states have a more stable govt than us and its oil areas are not as volatile as ours with no militants disturbing or tampering with the pipes.[/quote]Another dufus.

I said earlier, MEND has existed for 4 years, but oil has been spilling for 54 years. We already have enough racists and tribalists here, go deal with the issue on the other thread.

Kobojunkie:
Interesting analysis there . . , is it possible to get you to POINT OUT THE EXACT LINES FROM MY POST WHERE YOU HAVE me stating the ND DESERVES this at all? Cause from where I seat I am still trying to convince myself that you are not @Beaf with another ID. I mean I don't know anyone else who analyzes info in this manner but him.i.e A=CZ mentality!

You agreed right here that ND people should be gassed; https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-464527.32.html#msg6238813

^
And its about rounding up all Niger Deltans in cattle cars and sending them to the gas chamber? I repeat, dream that dream for your family, because they will be going instead.

. . .And when Hon. Ibn N'Allah said all Niger Deltans should be wiped out so that the rest Nigerians could feast, we thought we had heard the worst. 

Who needs to go abroad to feel racism? Its right here, kicking in rude health.

^
The oyb's are even thinking of rounding up all Niger Deltans in cattle cars and sending them to the gas chamber.
. . .And we are from the same country?

oyb:
small wonder . i can see you were born and not raised.  keep up with the insults

this is what beaf does when he is boxed into a corner. pathetic street urchin roaming nairaland defending his adopted  family of saboteurs.

Oh! So you want to send all ND people to the gas chamber and don't like it when I say instead, it will be your family that is sent there? [size=14pt]Wonders!!!!![/size]

Charlie, its your family that will be rounded up in cattle cars and sent to the gas chamber.
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[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=464409.msg6238490#msg6238490 date=1276866489]my comment is based on my analysis of jonathan's government.he's doing nothing other than wasting money and that was why i made that comment[/quote]You made a racist comment based on your "opinion" of one man?
I am amazed.

oyb:
disgusting and ridiculous melodrama. i always knew beaf had some sort of romantic persecution complex. i can see all those nders being rounded up in cattle cars and sent to the gas chamber

It is your father and mother and children that will be sent to the gas chamber.
Parasite, I'm here laughing at you.

Dis Guy:
and the private media in nigeria owned largely by guess who are busy covering Amodu's society wedding

Please, answer my question about why you think your state has the right to be a parasite. Or is it too hard?

Dis Guy:
and to take it further. . . why does anyone need their own federal enemy when some of their own states men and women will do just fine. . .

What will happen if/when all the senators, House of Reps, Governors from NIger Delta stay away from Abuja UNTIL A MASTERPLAN is discussed and Budgeted for? (it would seem some of them hardly visit their hometown apart from when they are commissioning aa new gloryland mansion)

What about all the senators, House of Reps, Governors from your area? I'm quite definite it doesn't contribute much to the Nigerian economy. Does it?
So why should your people even be in Abuja instead of finalising their very own MASTERPLAN?

Dis Guy:
OK OK OK GOODLUCK JONATHAN is the PRESIDENT NOW WHAT? Are we going to get a shakedown or serious attempt to clean up the area, this guy has 'proposed' so many blueprint and plans but no CLEAN UP MASTER PLAN and he has been in Governement for well over 8 years now

we cant keep blaming the govt (which to a large extent is made up of influencial heavy weight from that same region!!)

so much money goes into scholarship for petroleum eng,this or that engineering and very little effort goesinto environment regenration- They have basically given up hope of cleaning up this area,

Every single oil contract is owned by the FG. So what do you mean we shouldn't blame the FG?
All oil bearing land and adjoining waters are confiscated and owned by the FG. They have all been badly polluted for decades. So what do you mean we shouldn't blame the FG?

Jonathan is not going to be able to undo 54 years of abuse in a few short months, so we aren't even looking in his direction. In fact, when he alorted some money for cleanup, there was a huge outcry from the North about dredging being cancelled (which it wasn't).

The way things are going, one day Nigeria will wake up in deep shock. Like I've been saying, in many ways, our country is worse than Nazi Germany.

MandingoII:
[size=14pt]Did Nigeria get $$20 BILLION US DOLLARS put in an escrow?[/size]


In other words Obama made BP pay up 20 Billion to be drained by the United States Government, with more to come.

No, some Nigerians are here shamelessly blaming the victims. The past govts on their part have hawked Nigerians for twopence to the worst slavemasters and some of us are proud of it.
It is an incredible pity. Why does one need external enemies when some of their own country men and women will do just fine? I mean, they do a much better job.

Kobojunkie:
Oh, because I am not into pretending to live in denial of the facts in much the same way as you continue to means I HATE ND PEOPLE?

I choose to accept that ND people/and government have their share of the blame means I hate them?

I prefer to be honestly dissect the situation now puts me in YOUR ANTI-ND bin?

You must be a brilliant one!!! Are you like the village champion of your square or something?

When you don't have a clue about a topic (to the extent that your ignorance shines like the sun), but still you insist on taking hard positions, it is natural to assume that your motives are dubious. I mean how could anybody argue that Aondokaa is from the Niger Delta? How? . . .You want us to believe you are some authority on MEND? Come on! We can see through you and your type; its pure hatred.

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=464409.msg6238359#msg6238359 date=1276865410]you havent answered my question.''is jonathan fit to be our president based on his spending spree tendency ?'' Yes or no[/quote]You haven't answered your own question as to why you are so shamelessly racist against the Niger Delta. A grown up man! Why?
These are you disgraceful words, they can make Satan convulce;

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=464409.msg6235434#msg6235434 date=1276813487]Beaf will always see anything ''jonathan'' as good.how do you justify spending a whooping #10 billion on common party?
i dont yaradua would have acted in this stu.pid manner if he was alive.this has really[b] showed the naivety of some region to effectively rule this country[/b].na wao,everybody wan produce president,they get am finish they dey mess up[/quote]

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Sharap! At least the other people who regularly hate on the ND are benefiting from the oil industry; so we know where they are coming from. As for you, its out of pure racism or just for hot airs sake. Have you forgotten how you strenously argued that Aondoakaa is from the Niger Delta? You are lost, but you don't know it.

We will continue seeing many surprising peeps in 9ja sha!

merge:
Nigeria WILL NEVER move Forward

It will; together or in pieces.

oyb:
real Nigerian heroes that lot

anyway, that 20billion has their eyes popping - expect them to take up a new 'call to arms'

So MEND's 4 year old existence is the reason for govts 54 years of total negligence and abuse?  Na wa o! This one na 9ja mathematics!
The logic is so weak and funny, I don't even know when I will stop laughing!

. . .Nigerians and their wickedness sha!

[quote author=Rhino.3dm link=topic=464409.msg6236756#msg6236756 date=1276845456]@ beaf.
I can see dat 'beaf' is very rotten dat can only be fed to rabies affected dogs!. You did not see anythin wrong when you jump out of the issue at hand and started making general statement against the people of the 'far north'. i quess by now you learn how to remain in your lane. Grande casso![/quote]This is why they say, the black man's biggest problem is reading! If only you had read through the exchanges between hatch# and myself, you would have seen where he asked my about the "far North" and I very naturally obliged. But you only "see" what you want, isn't it?
Olodo tribalist basket brain like you!

Instead of you people to be serious about life, you're running around blaming Jonathan for Yar Adua's suplimentary budget which was signed by whoever was signing things with the hands of a dead man. Talk of misplaced priority. Basket brain!

[quote author=Rhino.3dm link=topic=464409.msg6236392#msg6236392 date=1276836356]@ beaf.
You can see how stupidity has be clouded your sense of judgement. And what more can you get from 'far south' than bunch of useless 'incest'. I know the next stage is to start sleeping with your mothers. God forbid!. 'Phil ben' pregnating his 12 yrs old daughter.what about those pedo.phile catholic priest. Pathetic!.[/quote]What a dunce, your first statement on the thread and you can't even address the topic? Instead you are waxing tribalistic? Damn!
No wonder Boko Haram has members!

Anybody with a google map to Yaba left?
Meat and "scared" animals are the very last of Nigeria's problems.

[size=14pt]FORENSIC FORCE: Now that rotational presidency is anathema, [/size]
By Salisu Suleiman

No one pretended that it was democratic. Its sole purpose was to ensure that the South produced a president at a time the country was reeling from the excesses of Generals Babangida and Abacha’s dictatorships. It was a compromise in national interest. And so it was that rotational presidency produced Obasanjo (who as it turned out, was not the South’s best specimen).

After Obasanjo’s 8 years power returned to the North, but Yar’Adua died shortly afterwards, returning the presidency back to the South. Suddenly, rotational presidency is now ‘unconstitutional’. In an ironic throwback to the Abacha era, motley groups have emerged with the stated mission of ‘convincing’ President Goodluck Jonathan to run for president in 2011. As if the man needs any convincing…

But the propriety or morality of rotational presidency is not the crux of this piece; it is the fact that 11 years of democracy has only ‘democratised’ poverty, especially in the North. The concern of most people in the North is not the presidency, but poverty. Did Babangida’s eight years improve the North? Or conversely, did Obasanjo’s 8 years really improve the South? So while the political elite fight about what the mother tongue of the next president should be, the real issue must be how to challenge poverty.

The focus should be on multiplying the hundreds of trucks laden with fresh food produced from irrigated schemes in the North that depart for markets all over Nigeria daily. The irrigation infrastructures that produced the crops were built in the 1970s, implying that Nigeria is capable of meeting its food needs and even for export through the expansion of irrigation. Today, less than 10 of the country’s irrigable land are irrigated.

Nigeria has the potential to become a global food exporter by expanding irrigation. In 1999, 42 percent of arable land in Asia was irrigated, 31 percent in the Near East and North Africa, 14 percent in Latin America and the Caribbean, and only four percent in sub-Saharan Africa. Irrigation increases yields of most crops by 100 to 400 percent.

Increased irrigated agriculture is a key to reducing poverty. In many countries, irrigation triggered high economic growth increased incomes and improved nutrition. It raises yields and is essential to increasing productivity. Farmers benefit from irrigation through increased and more stable incomes and the higher value of irrigated land. Nigeria has large untapped reserves of groundwater. In addition, there is great potential for harvesting water runoff and for farming lowlands and valley bottoms that catch it naturally.

The development of small, cost-efficient earth dams is important in breaking the poverty circle. A study of small-scale irrigation schemes across Africa found that irrigation improved incomes, diets and health. For example, when women no longer had to fetch water from far away, they had time to start market gardens, thereby improving their incomes and diets. The benefits extended beyond increased agricultural productivity. Women earned income and helped families reduce debt. It increased school attendance, reduced seasonal migration for work and earned cash to pay for previously unaffordable essentials.

Underused water resources in Nigeria offer great potential for irrigation using simple and inexpensive technologies. Irrigation development is a goldmine as long as it includes: (1) a sustainable strategy for irrigated agriculture in Nigeria; (2) development of cost effective rain harvesting techniques for domestic and agricultural uses; (3) steps to position Nigeria as Africa’s leading organic crop production area; (4) creation for millions of direct and indirect employment; (5) encouraging the emergence of agro-allied industries in; (6) ensuring better management of soil moisture in rain fed areas; (7) facilitation of direct investment in water harvesting and storage.

Focus must be on the development of small-scale community-based irrigation schemes; improved water access and control for semi-urban agriculture; the evolution of an environmentally sound system of improved water access for livestock in arid and semi-arid areas; better alignment of irrigation and drainage institutions, and transfer of responsibilities for operation, maintenance and management of irrigation and drainage systems to organised local user groups; cost-sharing for infrastructure improvement; appropriate systems of water rights and volumetric delivery for greater efficiency in water use; and re-dimensioning of irrigation systems where they are not financially or environmentally viable.

Implementing these strategies will create millions of jobs. Food security would be assured. Environmental challenges would be mitigated. Foreign exchange earnings would be boosted and poverty eradicated. If we focus on the things that are truly important like fighting poverty, who wants to know if the next president is Goodluck Jonathan or Badluck Babangida?

http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Opinion/5582203-184/story.csp

oyb:
are the communities and mend not also complicit in oil spills?

what happens when mend blows up pipelines?

whta happens when ateke and co engage in oil bunkering?

even communities do it as well

we need to stop going on as if the nd communities are pure victims. this is not some hollywood movie with black and white

MEND has been in existence since 2006, that is just 4 years ago! Shame on you.
Oil was discovered in Oloibiri in 1956, 54 years ago (more than half a century). It might please you to know that the very first Nigerian oil well at Oloibiri has been leaking steadily for decades. What has been done about it?

After 50 years of slavery, the ND was forced to take up arms. Something they rightly did 4 years ago. What was the country doing in those 50 years? Bayelsa was not connected to the national grid until 2006! Yet, Abuja and Lagos had been built up one after the other as capitals.

It is only in Nigeria that you hear that the Niger Delta is not a victim. Abroad, the situation is looked on with total revulsion, hence the Americans every once in a while, find time to say, "but, hey! We ain't getting it hot! For the worst oil spills in the World, look to Nigeria and their wicked and corrupt govts."
To some Nigerians, its easy to point fingers at those who took up arms in 2006 than to address the mismanagement and stark ineptitude of the 54 years we have produced oil.

Shame.

[size=14pt]North: ‘Don’t Blame ACF for Leadership Failure’[/size]
By John Shiklam in Kaduna, 06.18.2010

Chairman of the northern socio-cultural organisation, Arewa Consultative Forum (ACF), Maj. Gen. Ibrahim B.M. Haruna (rtd), said it was unfair for anybody to attribute the failures of northern leaders to the Forum, saying those in leadership positions in the region should be held responsible.

ACF also noted that the new Chairman of the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC), Prof. Attahiru Jega, needs more than goodwill and moral support to succeed and deliver on the promise of credible elections in 2011, given the situation of things on the ground.

Speaking with newsmen shortly after paying a courtesy call to the Kaduna state governor, Mr. Patrick Yakowa, at the Government House, Kaduna, Haruna said it was wrong for anybody to heap blame on the forum, stressing that ACF cannot take over the roles assigned to governors and traditional rulers in the north.

According to him, it was erroneous for people to insinuate that the Forum had failed to deliver on its mandate and should therefore be held responsible for the increasing cases of frequent religious and ethnic crisis in the north, pointing out that ACF is a consolidating and advisory body which does not have executive capacity.
According to him, the responsibility of ACF stops at the limit of its mandate, insisting that the Forum has done creditably well within the limit of its powers.

Also in a communiqué issued at the end of its National Working Committee (NWC) which held at its secretariat in Kaduna, the Forum noted the desires of Nigerians for credible elections in 2011 andurged the authorities to ensure that every machinery that will bring about credible elections is made available to the new management of the electoral body.

The communiqué which was signed by the National Publicity Secretary of the Forum, Mr. Anthony N. Z. Sani, noted the positive response the appointment of the new INEC chairman, Jega, received across the country and commended President Goodluck Jonathan for the “courage and wisdom to select a Nigerian whose credentials suggest he is the right man for the job.”

ACF, while congratulating Jega on his appointment, urged him not to disappoint Nigerians who believe in him with a passion.

http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=176099

evil666:
I cant believe this, In Nigeria!, and the 2 councillors still won
Nigeria is a drama

Exactly!
There is no tough maths as to the reason why Nigeria is regressing to the stone age. Those fools are now in power, all because they have a godfather. Kai!

FL Gators:
You never heard of "eja didin"

My dear, you want all our little pikins to turn to charcoal?

In 2007, during an informal screening by the party of those seeking office of councillor, two aspirants did not know what the three arms of government meant. The two told the panel that the three arms of government were Mark Four, AK 47 and Pump Action, all referring to the guns that they were familiar with in fighting rivals.

Damnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!

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Kobojunkie:
The Concerns of the Business owners, Citizens in the area, local Governments(Mayors, Governors, Senators & Other representatives) was necessary here to get the media involved, and federal Government listening and working  . . .  Unity does not \ have to mean all 300 million citizens of America here.

Polls still show that most Americans are more concerned about unemployment figures than they are of what is going on down in the gulf area. But because the local governments in the area are unwilling to let this one go and have made it a federal issue, it is still high in the news today and will remain so until a lasting solution is found.

I have never seen a greater collection of nonsense in a single post.
Who cares what US polls say? Are the polls in the news or its the leak that’s in the news? But then, we tend to "know" more about the US than we know about Nigeria, don’t we?

This is a grovelling display of disunity from a congress man from Texas. He actually apologised to BP, because the fed govt got them to set aside $20 billion for compensation. Texas is local to the oil spill and oil industry (except someone moved it elsewhere);

"I'm ashamed of what happened in the White House yesterday. I think it is a tragedy of the first proportion that a private corporation can be subjected to what I would characterise as a shakedown, a $20bn shakedown.

"I do not want to live in a country where any time a citizen or a corporation does something that is subject to some sort of political pressure that is, again in my words, amounts to a shakedown. So I apologise."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/us_and_canada/10346061.stm

Yes, there are traitors, cowards and fools (eg past govts) in every country. But it is only in Nigeria that such people become a callous and evil excuse for the deaths and destruction of the livelihoods of a full 13+% of its population.

In the US, that happens not to be the case; nobody is talking about the obvious disunity of folk in the Gulf of Mexico; instead Obama has visited countless times, made a speech in the pouring rain, mobilised the army and scientists across the World (yes, if you can suggest a workable solution, you are made for life). And yes, it is a US FEDERAL GOVT initiative. Why go this length? Simple, the life of every US citizen is highly valued and society functions.

In Nigeria, there is no love and what you get in certain cases, is an absolute racism against the people of the Niger Delta, who lay the golden egg for the nation; because some feel hopeless in their inability to contribute anything to the countries economy, have no clue what to do about it (or are beaten back by chaos) and so cling desperately to a free launch and like drowning men, drag everything around them down the murky depths.

The American media keep talking about what goes on in the Niger Delta, because they are very frankly shocked at FG attitudes. Four things amplify this;
[list]
[li]Unlike the US, Nigeria is dependent on Niger Delta oil for 90% of federal earnings[/li]
[li]The pollution in the Niger Delta dwarfs the Mexico oil spill by several orders of magnitude, yet the federal govt does absolutely nothing[/li]
[li]The US federal govt has acted robustly, despite practicing true federalism; while the unitary Nigerian govt has done zilch[/li]
[li]Instead of acting, the Nigerian federal govt has carried out several exterminations of Niger Delta communities; with arms and equipment fully paid for by foreign oil companies[/li]
[/list]

"Ahh! Those useless ND people! Its all their fault, some actually enjoy the oil spills! They want to stop us enjoying our free lunch, because their local reps are inept.."
. . .The shame and wickedness of it all.

[quote author=hatch# link=topic=464409.msg6234695#msg6234695 date=1276804675]Sometimes i suspect that Beaf may even be goodluck jonathan under a screen name. Giving the manner he tries to justify some really silly moves he makes [/quote]Yes o! Make you begin fear de kain SSS I fit release!

[quote author=~Bluetooth link=topic=464409.msg6235434#msg6235434 date=1276813487]Beaf will always see anything ''jonathan'' as good.how do you justify spending a whooping #10 billion on common party?
i dont yaradua would have acted in this stu.pid manner if he was alive.this has really[b] showed the naivety of some region to effectively rule this country[/b].na wao,everybody wan produce president,they get am finish they dey mess up[/quote]How desperate can you get to say something so so foolish? A grown man?
No need to be racist against the ND, if (as usual )you have nothing to say.
Shame.