₦airaland Forum

citizenY:
@Beaf,

Lef matter. Point is we agree and if you post on Ibori, and it is ok , no kain
but we should find common grounds against the ''cocke roaches, rats and mosquitoes ''
of out time.

Nice weekend if i no hail u 4 ANODA POST

Your passion for the North is quite healthy. Its a good thing to have.
You too enjoy your weekend.

citizenY:
@Beaf

What i mean is that we have the same set of oppressors. You say I do not condemn mine. I said
I do , unreservedly. I am not deviating but making a general statement and pointing out that the
malaise you identified is in your backyard too.

. . .But this thread is about Northern leaders saying they want no changes to the FEC. My backyard doesn't come into it at all.
When I post Ibori threads, how come nobody says to me, "easy on the man na, the same malaise exists in the North to"?
Its all good.

ilugunboy:
The truth is that this man is one rare truly detrabilised man you can get in Nigeria. The character that runs in him is Honesty and Intergrity.

Yes, he has used his priviledged position to make some real good money for himself (you can call him anything you like!), but no one is a saint, giving the same opportunity and priviledge, most castigating the General here will do more. He is not a flamboyant person, that I can boldly say.

Most of the oil blocks allocated to him were more or less used to curry his favour by in-coming military men.

Go to any of his companies today, they are mostly run by people engaged on merit. He is a Takum man that engages you based on what you can deliver and not because you are "my tribesman".

Most of the people shouting themselves hoarse here are simply doing so because the man is not from their own part of Nigeria. If he happens to be a ND man, will the noise be this much?

How about if he was a Yoruba man?. . . That sort of reasoning doesn't even begin to sound sensible.

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You too will soon learn never to argue with becomerich. He is always "right" and always has maps to prove it.

citizenY:
As I said we have always disowned them. Why are you still refusing to admit that their clones are
embedded with you in ND? That is the smartest thing to do . Admit that you have them too.
. . .

I fail to understand.
Would that stop this article being about Northern reps? Or are you saying that ND reps are the ones threatening Jonathan not to change the FEC?
Lets not deviate from the topic.

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Another wanton killing in Jos?

sulad82i:
true.
But what was the man's motive anyway?

It was most likely a harmless mistake, perhaps from any of;

[list]
[li]Confusion from hunger (or other home trouble)[/li]
[li]Foolishness[/li]
[li]Intent to cause embarrassment (highly unlikely)[/li][/list]

EzeUche:
The Hausa are also in Northern Benin and northern Togo and some parts of Ghana. Your map is flawed.

Nobody can challenge becomrichs cartography and google prowess. Your map is flawed, it has to be.

cold:
Buncha hypocrites,pray tell me if u're offered an oil block today u'll vehemently reject it.Plz y'all should keep your voice down,Danjuma is no saint(just like the rest of us) but he is more 'upright & forthright' than most thieving politicians.

That $1 billion oil block belonged to Nigeria. We are looking at a $1 billion fraud here.

The only words I can agree with are that Danjuma is "more 'upright & forthright' than most thieving politicians". But lets be honest, we don't even know how many oil blocks he owns. Indeed, if all ex-generals have been "allocated" oil blocks, the country has simply been "allocated" to them in the most heartless way. How many hundred ex-generals are there? Do the math in billions of Dollars for a each oil block given away.

There is a rare, dizzying, inhuman and bizare level of greed involved in the way Nigerians leaders deal with the country. To our leaders, Nigeria is a no mans land they can walk into and steal everything that moves; anyone that resists is shot or jailed.

If only people knew that their childrens hopes and opportunities have been mortgaged away to greedy old bas'tards.

@mbulela, keep blaming for ants fighting for their rights, while elephants maraud your crop. Makes you look clever.

https://english.aljazeera.net/mritems/Images//2010/2/18/2010218232033997734_5.jpg
Colonel Goukoye Abdul Karimou

ziga:
And I believe that is your personal opinion.

No, it is the opinion of those Nigerians looking for greener pastures in Zimbabwe and setting up small scale businesses;

Lately, Nigerians and other nationals from West African countries such as Senegal and Guinea have flooded Zimbabwe’s major cities and towns running business ventures ranging from clothing retail, electrical shops and selling cell phone gadgets and accessories.

ziga:
This has nothing to do with the issue. Even if we had the best roads in the world, Nigerians will still be doing business in different parts of the world.

The chinese and indians are doing business in poorer nations than theirs.

The world is a very small country! I wouldn't argue that governments should make laws that would favor their locals but at the same time, they have to be internationally tolerant.

Really? How many are doing business in Bangladesh?
Ok, I'll put it in another way; life in Zimbabwe is better than life in Nigeria. Period.

This is a sad loss of life. May their souls rest in peace.

[size=14pt]12 relations die in Kano night fire[/size]
National News Feb 18, 2010 By AbdulSalam Muhammad

A late night inferno clamed about 12 relations, attending activities rounding off a naming ceremony at Charanchi quarters of Kumbotso local government of Kano .

The victims included the celebrant, her mother , and four children aged between three and 13 years, while two other women including four other children from Nafada area of Gombe state all relations of the celebrant died in the inferno that lasted several hours.

Vanguard learnt that the victims were all relations of the Deputy Speaker of the House of Representatives, Bayero Nafada and chairman, Nafada local Government area of Gombe state.

Vanguard learnt that the fire started from the kitchen area, situated within the passage of the storey building.

Vanguard gathered that the three people that survived the night fire include the eight-day old baby thrown off from the upstairs, the celebrant’s eldest son and one of her visiting sister who abandoned her own child and jumped the fire for safety.

The head of the family, Kabiru Baba in pains, told Vanguard that he lost his wife, four children and in-laws in the inferno, pointing out that the cause of the fire was still a ‘subject of mystery to him’.

Kabiru Baba stated that those that survived the inferno jumped the lengthy staircase to his waiting arm, stressing that her sister in-law that survived the inferno lost a kid to the fire.

“I had just finished pumping water into the main tank in the building and was settling down when suddenly a shout of fire outbreak rented the air. There was commotion and I saw every member of my family trying to escape but could not because the fire that started from the kitchen had sealed off the only exit,” Kabiru Baba narrated how his 12 relations perished.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2010/02/18/12-relations-die-in-kano-night-fire/

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=400129.msg5540434#msg5540434 date=1266519528]@Beaf, most Nigerians sympathize with Niger Deltans and the injustice they are experiencing.  Your dishonesty will not change that, Soyinka is no MEND thug.[/quote][size=14pt]When will you condemn Danjuma and his likes who represent Nigeria's deepest problems?[/size]
Or is it only the mention of Soyinka that is causing you pain in this thread?

. . .I am still waiting.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=400129.msg5540311#msg5540311 date=1266518528]Please post the text of a statement by Soyinka where he claimed to be representing MEND rather than the Niger Delta people? If you can't find such a statement, shut up.

Soyinka is not and will never be a MEND oil bunkerer, kidnapper, and thief.[/quote]Stop wounding yourself like a clown.
. . .And by the way, none of this takes from the fact that oil blocks are simply "allocated" to those in power in a grand theft (which you have skillfuly ignored   to attack those who aren't "allocated" oil blocks. You seem to be in support of that, because you haven't made a single comment on that blinding theft. Funny guy.

Call MEND any name you like, but as Soyinka says;

[size=14pt]MEND, Soyinka stated, meant proper mending in deep concept, stating that, it was foolish to have dismissed the militants as a bunch of rascals the way the government wanted us to see them.

- Wole Soyinka[/size]

Let it pain you.

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It your words that are lying. This is the great man himself (on a website where he can't be misquoted );

WOLE SOYINKA: MEND, Soyinka stated, meant proper mending in deep concept, stating that, it was foolish to have dismissed the militants as a bunch of rascals the way the government wanted us to see them.

http://www.nas-int.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=433&Itemid=115

Stop yarning nonsense jare!

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All the above are lies.
The Aaron group was created by MEND and they represent MEND and MEND alone.

MEND represents the Niger Delta. It is propagandists and the real criminals that want to make MEND out to be like them.
Wole Soyinka represents MEND and indeed visited Yar Adua in the company of Henry Okah quite a few times.

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=400151.msg5540010#msg5540010 date=1266515769]Beef, your intellectual dishonesty and bigotery in this matter is quite disgraceful.  The report posted by the OP stated clearly that 60 members of the Northern Caucus in the House of Representatives met Tuesday night at the Apo residence of former House Leader, Hon Abdul Ningi and resolved to withdraw support from Acting President Goodluck Jonathan, if he dissolves the Federal Executive Council (FEC).

And yet you come here asking dum.b questions? Who else would 60 members of the House of Reps, represent? Niger Delta thugs?

You are quick to call 60 members of the House of Reps criminals while singing praises of known criminal organizations such as MEND who continue to kidnap, kill, destroy property, and perpetrate other criminal activities. Your hypocrisy and bigotery is sickening, I thought you were more level headed than this.

Well meaning NLers have distanced themselves from the statement of the 60 members, yet you continue to directly and indirectly insult Arewa.  Don't let your tribalism and bigotery negatively affect your otherwise good judgement, olodo.[/quote]You are beginning to sound like a joker these days. I can see you are quite proud of those reps.
These folk are saying we must continue with the same corrupt crop of ministers, because it is in the interest of the "North". Which North? Your pocket or those poor Northerners impoverished by the rampant, bare faced stealing going on with the present FEC?

Criminals protect criminals. I am sure you love Aondoakaa and other criminals.

citizenY:
@Beaf,

We have disowned them and continue doing so - see all my posts.
What I am saying is that you should look at the mirror.

Dis ting dey ya backyard. You too get craw craw.
Abi , I lie.
We too don travel.
No denge for ya paddy now.

I am happy you have disowned them. For a period, you had me scratching my head.

Zimbabwe is in better shape than Nigeria. That is the sad truth.
Have you ever seen a bad road on TV in Zimbabwe? I can bet that nobody here has.

If anybody challenges the above, let them post pictures and their sources.

mbulela:
Dude, try and engage your brains before firing at all cylinders.
Did you see the post i was referring to?
Do you think your response to me is apt in view of the post i was responding to?
does it make sense?

The post you referred to did not draw the conclusions you did. In fact, it dealt squarely with the issue at hand and condemned those causing Nigeria's problems. It was you that deviated.

Stop looking for ants (just to look busy) when elephants are destroying your crop. I wish you will find a way to stand up for yourself and fight for your own rights, instead of dreaming that others will do it on your behalf. MEND have stood to fight and have the best of brains and integrity in persons of such calibre as Wole Soyinka (a Nobel Laureate) representing them, but here you are doing unwitting battle (with pride) for the Danjuma's of Nigeria.

Do you really think that men of international renown would volunteer to represent MEND if they are mere criminals? You are only doing the dirty propaganda battle of the real criminals that are stealing us blind and bombing the helpless (and you are even doing it free off charge).

citizenY:
@Beaf

You have definitely caught the bug now. You may be required to tell us, some day, even if
you will not admiti it, the level of  literacy and destitution in your area. If there is none, why
are you complaining. It is good to highlight these issues , as it wakes people from their slumber.

If you are not burying your head in the sand, it is very amusing that you are unable to identify North
and then turn around to cast aspersions on them. Happily, or rather unfortunately, there exists a more
debilitating equivalent in the south south but Beaf  dare not call names. Even MEND has not been able to
handle them. They hunt with the foxes and run with the hares.

Let me tell you free of charge, leave that comfort zone you are ensconced in and come over. You have never see
destitution. Come and join MEND (which faction) and sooner or later  we shall see the difference.

It is either you chop tapioca or you collect stipend.

See this post

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=399534.msg5528823#msg5528823

Make you dey there dey hug laptop and throw jibes.

When did you start yarning dust like this?
These people claim to be representing the North, while pushing every unprogressive agenda. Simple question; do they represent you or do they represent the ills I mentioned?
Why would you jump up in defence of criminals, just because they make a wooly claim to claim to represent the "North". Which North indeed? Jos or Katsina?

If these people represent you, then I have nothing further to add.
If however, they don't represent you, the onus lies on you and those like you to disown them. Anything else na dust.

These are very serious and troubling times for Nigeria. Suddenly, we are beginning to see the true scale of brigandry and the desperate lengths people would go not to be uncovered. It is easy to guess those involved, except for the ministers.

Sad.

deor03:
Can they fly the crew back and return to pick presido when he is discharged from the hospital?

Ask me o!
Imagine keeping a Boeing 737 on standby for 3 months in a foreign land. Each crew member is getting at least $1000 per night plus the maintainance and packing costs of the aircraft.
The whole thing is like a huge joke.

mbulela:
That explains to you that MEND and its fellow 'militants' are nothing but lily livered criminals.
Who are only interested in exploiting the crooked system for the benefit of their pockets.

Of course, to you, Danjuma is now a member of MEND. It is easy to go after easy targets, so it seems that one is a hero.
Poor Nigeria! The place is packed with people who argue loudly at anything that moves, just for the sake of it.

The problem here is Danjuma and hundreds of other ex-generals who have "allocated" themselves oil blocks; it is those who are powerful enough to collude with oil companies to sell oil totally outside the system; it is those who are powerful enough to purchase oil vessels for bunkering (similar to the one impounded last week); it is those who use the army to protect their personal bunkering interests, killing, burning, looting and ra'ping elderly women and underage girls.

Where are people like you to ask real questions when they are needed, why chase shadows?

When 2500 innocent people were murdered in Odi, where were you to ask proper questions? Below are pictures of Odi after Nigerians like you attacked them and burnt down everything.

This Yar Adua thing would have been so funny, if only a life wasn't involved. What a wretched country!

[size=14pt]Presidential air crew grumble in Saudi [/size]
By Musa Simon Reef

The continuous absence of President Umaru Musa Yar’adua from the corridors of power is beginning to exert its toll on the presidential air fleet, with some crew members lamenting since they arrived in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia on November 23, 2009.

The presidential crew, consisting of captains, co-pilots, flight engineers, and flight attendants are allegedly complaining of being nostalgic about their inability to see their family members.

According to a source, “the crew members are homesick and are groaning over their long stay in Saudi Arabia.

They are longing for a re-union with their family members and can’t wait to be back in the country.”

The crew members, who took ailing President Yar’adua to the Royal Kingdom for treatment in his Executive 737 Boeing Presidential jet, have spent their 85th day in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.

Sources told Peoples Daily that some members of the crew have confirmed the seizure of their passports and other travel documents on arrival in Jeddah last year.

“They have become more or less hostages to an uncertain situation surrounding the ailing President. Even though the crew is staying at the prestigious Trident Hotel in Jeddah, the members are expressing a strong wish to come back home,” a source said.

A particular crew member who lost a relative, according to the source, was allegedly not allowed to come to Nigeria when he requested to be allowed home to commiserate with other relations.

“The bereaved crew member was told to exercise patience and wait along with others.

“We are like hostages here. Our hotel bills are being picked up and there is no problem about that. We have also been occasionally told that the President is getting better and that we would soon go home,” one of the crew members told one of our sources.

Contacted on the alleged dilemma of the crew members, Special Adviser to President on Aviation Matters, Captain Shehu Iyal, said he was not aware of what was happening to the crew members.

“I am not in charge of the presidential fleet. I am presently in Kano and I am involved in Hajj matters. But I do not believe such can be true. But I am not competent to speak on the matter,” Iyal told Peoples Daily yesterday.

Presidential crew members, according to another source are each entitled to a minimum of $500 per night whenever they were on duty.

“When you add their hotel bills with their allowances, you have a minimum of $1000 for crew members per night,” the source said.

Though a national daily had reported that that the Federal Government had spent the sum of N30 million as allowances for the crew members, the amount has risen to over N60 million.

Enquiries on landing charges for planes in Saudi Arabia indicated that the government may have paid $133,620 (N19, 775, 760, 00) for parking the presidential plane at Jeddah airport.

According to a source, the type of plane used to fly the Nigerian president is billed $524 every eight hours, making it $1572 per day.

http://www.peoplesdaily-online.com/index.php/news/national-news/16-national-news/9704-presidential-air-crew-grumble-in-saudi

There's so much to look forward to in the 2010 F1 season, the the come back of Michael Schumacher, the pairing of two World champs in Hamilton and Button.
Its everywhere! Massa v Alonso at Ferrari and in the grand scheme, Hamilton v Alonso in a McLaren - Ferrari showdown.

Wet weather has continued to make pre-season testing at Jerez useless. . .
Jerez testing times (Wednesday 17 February)

1 VETTEL Red Bull 1m22.593s (103)
2 HAMILTON McLaren 1m23.017s (72)
3 MASSA Ferrari 1m23.204s (72)
4 BUEMI Toro Rosso 1m23.322s (79)
5 DE LA ROSA Sauber 1m23.367s (77)
6 SCHUMACHER Mercedes 1m23.803s (111)
7 SUTIL Force India 1m24.272s (28)
8 DI RESTA Force India 1m25.088s (76)
9 PETROV Renault 1m26.237s (59)
10 BARRICHELLO Williams 1m27.320s (109)
11 FAUZY Lotus 1m31.848s (76)
12 GLOCK Virgin 1m32.417s (10)


2006 McLaren. . . Beautiful!

One of those involved in the meeting was said to have said in exasperation: “We have to deal with him; we have to kill him.”

“They are wicked and ungodly and their time is up! Never, again, must we allow our nation to be strangulated by a privileged few who will rather fiddle with our common wealth while the nation burns.

“We are aware that they have set aside a huge war chest in billions of naira to bring the Jonathan Acting Presidency to disrepute by any means possible. It is, therefore, hardly surprising that as cunny as these allegations obviously sound, they still get mention in our media space. We are fully on the tracks of this so-called group; this unfortunate band of liars. In the fullness of time, they shall be brought to book.

“We find no need to dignify the N300 billion allegation with a response. What is more, those selling this lie are careful to state that the money was procured from a certain businessman, who is to be settled in a matter of weeks by “a huge oil contract.”

“Three hundred billion naira sourced from one man at a go? We demand to know who this businessman is. Anyone that keeps liquid cash of N2 billion dollars to bribe people belongs only in jail! Huge oil contract? Maybe Nigerians need to ask those who have been involved in handing out such contracts how such quid pro quo deals are done.

“Let me use this medium to reiterate that we shall not be deterred by campaigns of calumny or any other method whatsoever in our collective efforts to reform this nation, and change our ways of doing things once and for all. The acting president is determined, and he is counting on the total support of all Nigerians”, the statement concluded.

It is time to stamp out these parasites, blood suckers and demons.

“For anything coming, we will look at it critically, we will examine it, we will look at what is good for the North and if there is nothing to take back home to our people, you can be rest assured that we will oppose it. The North will not accept it and the whole North will rise against it,” the member vowed.

Who is this so called "North"? Is it their own people that they have forced into illiteracy and the almajiri practice? Is it Kala Kato and Boko Haram that are stack reminders of the failure of their leadership? Is it the 11 and 13 year old girls that are married off to middle aged men?
Someone please educate me , because, I would have imagined that these so called Northern leaders would have been engrossed in issues to do with pervasive poverty, iliteracy, rampant deceases like river blindness and polio, religious riots and Mutallabing etc.