₦airaland Forum

You can't put a pitbull in charge of something as delicate as balancing monetery affairs; Sanusi's approach (Arewa scripted or not) has been totally wrong. Agbero methods can't work in the CBN; they have only led directlty to accusations that Sanusi is only wielding a "tribal" script.

Things were bound to go this way. OPC is the only Southern organisation that can front tribal claims for Southern interests without qualms; the boys have been given their orders and tectonic plates are moving in a new North/South battle.

Lets see Sanusi's next move. Will he toss the hot rock to Yar Adua, or drop it and run, or give the South a hotter rock than his? Lets wait and see.

GEW:
churches in every corner do not equal Godliness. yes nigerians go to church but about 99% still have no qualms doing 419, belonging to the occult and every other wicked things you can name.

if you call Gods name you are to depart from iniquities not be an active doer of evil and aborminations.
we had more sanity in nigeria before now so something is wrong.

True.

The thing that is wrong with Nigeria today is that, we've left common sense and good society behind for the worship of money. A great part of this problem is; too many churches and various levels of Boko Haram.
Nigeria was better in the past when there where no churches. Benson Idahosa started all of this rubbish, Yusuf has extended it.

Flood the market when we don't manufacture anything, how's that going to work? At best, the Naira would make a wretched 1 week appreciation, before crashing abysmally. The only thing we export is oil and we have no control over its pricing, everything we consume is imported and paid for in dollars; there will be absolutely no way to keep the value of the Naira up.

I hope this story is just a rumuor, because it hasn't been done yet.

He only has to wake and be present in the government. A sleeping lion is the same as a mouse.

I wish the Chelsea appeal fails, then we will see all these overnight chelsea fans melting away.
God don catch abramovitch.

GAR3TH:
But if Nigeria does split up, what problems are solved? The same corrupt leaders we have now will be the same ones leading the individual nations. Instead of tribal feuds we'll have wars and arguments over land. Prices of goods will go up because of import and other taxes. Every nation will be weak so their will be "invasions" by countries like china and the U.S to exploit are resources (imperialism). Just because you'll be the majority of the country doesn't mean that development and happiness will come. Look the African countries with a large majority. They are still in a 3rd world state. Most African countries have been independent for 40 plus years now and they still look the same, in a 3rd world state. But what do they all have in common, they have bad leaders. So if you split nothing really gets solved.

In my opinion, I just want a leader that will get Nigeria going. I don’t care what tribe, religion, race, whatever, if he can do the job right I’ll will elect him__[b]ONE NIGERIA[/b]

That way, nobody gets to blame North, South, East or West for any problems. You won't have to deal with corrupt leaders you don't know and you won't have to worry about the leaders of other regions/countries.
Right now, the system is so sqewed in favour of corruption that it can never be saved (except by an honest national conference; there is such a total dependence on FG stipends that each state has forgotten that they have resources (human, mineral, tourism etc) that can be developed. There is no healthy competition. you will be shocked at the sort of mineral resources Nigeria has outside of oil.

Dem don catch russian mafia

Fhemmmy:
Let them remove him, and he will show others that they did it together, i wont even be surprised if he named Mr. Yar'Adua

How can I forge Aso Rock; I wanna move in. Takers?

Northern agenda, southern conspiracy: Nigeria’s deepening “Lugard chasm”
Written by Is’haq Modibbo Kawu

Last Tuesday, August 25, 2009, DAILY TRUST carried a screaming lead on the imminent shake-up in the Federal Civil Service; the accompanying bullet added that “North loses top permsecs and directors”. The story’s basis was some “documents obtained by DAILY TRUST”. Under a new system approved by President Umaru Yar’adua “at the instance of Head of Service Stephen Oronsaye, permanent secretaries, directors and deputy directors in the federal civil service will have a maximum of eight years in office, irrespective of their ages and years of service”.

As a result “nine of the serving permanent secretaries have already been asked to begin retirement preparations under the new arrangement. ALL THE NINE ARE NORTHERNERS (emphasis is mine)”. Furthermore, “160 of the 223 officers to be affected at director and deputy director level are from the North. This will effectively drag the North 25 years back in the service”. This last bit of red-herring was attributed to a faceless “senior government official”!

This was a shocking pandering to the lowest common denominator by DAILY TRUST. With the story, it joined the deepening of what I call the “Lugard Chasm” of Nigerian life. The story attempted to raise our “patriotic Northern blood” to a fighting pitch, by listing our sons and daughters that have been told to vacate the service: Dr. Hakeem Baba-Ahmed, Alhaji B.U. Maitambari, Ammuna Lawan Ali, Dr. H.U. Sanusi, S.D. Matankari, Alhaji Garba Buwai, Nu’uman Barau Dambatta, Mrs. S. Muhammad and Dr. Aliyu Abdullahi. The faceless top civil servant in the story sharpened our fighting instincts even further, by revealing that the new arrangement “violates the fundamental laws of the public service….It is also a cruel and illegal way of removing the top civil service and an attempt to decimate the highest level of Northerners in the civil service (I can see all ‘patriotic’ Northerners already huffing and puffing to fight!)”. The insinuation is of a “Southern conspiracy”!

It is even more galling that “our son”, the president is acting “at the instance of Head of Service Stephen Oronsaye”, a Southerner! But did we ask salient questions about the roles played by our rich and comfortable beloved sons and daughters in the formulation and implementation of policies, especially the neo-liberal policies of the Obasanjo and Yar’adua regimes, that deepened the desperation of the peoples of Northern Nigeria, leaving us with the worst social indices; in the same way that 92% of the Nigerian people, North and South, have been reduced to surviving on less than $1 per day! One of these “beloved children of the North”, Dr. Hakeem Baba-Ahmed, who topped the list of our “casualties”, if we recall, was secretary of the INEC of 2003, which facilitated the massive rigging of the Obasanjo elections of that year! Was that done for the “North” then?

DAILY TRUST copied the reigning attitude in the Southern press since the sack of five bank CEOs in the middle of August, as a result of three principal reasons given by the Central Bank: N1.1 trillion bad loans; liquidity ratio being below minimum and over-reliance on interbank and CBN borrowing. Almost all the Southern newspapers without exception have carried articles, opinion pieces or even asked questions skewed to suggest that Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, was implementing a “Northern Agenda”! Those who operated within well-oiled Soludo PR loops and lauded his “Consolidation” project as the final act of “ingenuity”, are flustered by piling revelations, and the Debtors, which one analyst described as almost the Who-is-Who of contributors to Obasanjo/PDP Fund-raising occasions; yet, they’ve been more interested in pursuing the “Lugard Chasm” of a “Hidden Northern Agenda”: Northerners lost out during Soludo’s “Consolidation” exercise, therefore, Sanusi Lamido has been appointed to reverse that, and ensure that Northerners buy up some of the banks!

COMPASS newspaper’s columnist, ABA SAHEED even reduced it to a racist profiling of the Fulbe in his frankly ridiculous piece of Monday, August 31, 2009: “In the beginning”, he wrote, “Bros Sege begot Yar’adua. And Yar’adua begot Lamido. And Lamido begot Bank Leaders Liquidation. And Liquidation in turn will beget new owners WHOSE FACES WILL BE NARROW, THEIR BODY FRAMES WILL BE SLIM AND THEIR NOSES WILL BE LONG (emphasis mine!)”.  The VANGUARD newspaper’s March 23, 2009 lead story which was obviously written as part of the jostling for the CBN governorship and with hindsight, might also have been an offensive piece by the sacked CEOs, has shored up the conspiracy theories. The lead talked that “GROUP PLOTS TAKEOVER OF FIVE TOP BANKS” and had accompanying bullet that “NEW CBN GOV… TO EMERGE APRIL”.

COMPASS of August 26th, carried on its back page an article by a certain Akeem Adebayo, titled SANUSI: THE FULANI WITHOUT APOLOGY. He regularly sees a Fulani “conspiracy” under every political and economic bed in Nigeria. Sanusi, he said “is an unabashedly Fulani nationalist and he has made that clear in many articles he has written since 2000….He has made disparaging remarks about Chief Obafemi Awolowo….He made sure his readers understood him well that he was foremost a Fulani-he even described the term Hausa-Fulani a nonsense nomenclature”. To drive the point home, he added that “Sanusi is following a script. The appointment of Southerners as acting MDs of the five banks is a smokescreen. When the smoke clears, Fulanis would have become the majority shareholders of most Nigerian banks….There is a grand conspiracy by the Yar’adua administration to foster Fulani control over all facets of life in the country…Today it’s the banks. Yesterday, it was the petroleum products importers. Who knows who’s next?” To deepen the “Lugard Chasm” and prepare grounds for war, Akeem Adebayo finally asked “When will Southerners and other marginalized Nigerians begin to resist this blatant process of internal colonialism?”

Not even a highly respect politician like Chief Olu Falae, a former presidential candidate and banker of repute can escape the “Lugard Chasm”. He agreed in Saturday SUN of August 29th that the CBN can remove CEOs responsible for distress in their institutions. But he fell into the carefully dug pit about a subsisting “agenda” in Sanusi’s action. “Do you think the CNB Governor is executing a northern agenda as some accuse?” asked SUN. “I have read that. But, there is no basis for making such assertion”. Fair enough; but later “the impression he is creating is that he has an agenda. It is either his personal agenda OR A GROUP AGENDA”. These from a man who could have been the president of Nigeria!

The excessive politicization of the ethno-regional divide has been the hallmark of post-June 12 Nigeria. The root of course lies deeper; but the implementation of neo-liberal capitalism devastated the lives of people, while the corrupt ruling class used neo-liberalism as excuse to vacate social responsibilities. In response, people returned to ethno-regional and religious identities for survival. The “Lugard Chasm” was re-invented to become a serious danger to national cohesion. Struggles against underdevelopment, injustice and a corrupt ruling class must be national. The Nigerian people collectively need a national democratic project of liberation. We must reject neo-liberal capitalism and its criminal politics. The “Northern Agenda-versus-Southern Conspiracy” platform cannot aid our liberation. The “Lugard Chasm” is a route to nowhere!

^I guess you are the daft one.

I never mentioned any specific ethnic group, or your state, or your job, or your age, or your wifes ethnic group, or your education levels, or were you live. You've volunteered this detailed info on an anonymous forum (while avoiding issues at hand). . . and you ain't stupid?

I love to stick to issues at hand.

Project mafia is nearing completion.

Each elite child will soon be born with a gun, a pen and an email address.
Job prospects; militant, forger, 419

In the new Nigeria, normal kids need not be born (job prospects will be zilch).

okunoba:
@beaf u need to be objective, your reasoning is clouded by emotion.

Perhaps I am emotional. I am from the ND (places close to mine were indescriminately bombed by the JTF).
A lot of the time, people make ill thought out statements that can at best be regarded as callous or in some cases, wicked. When your people die, you tend to get emotional.

bidemi12's first couple of sentences were reasonable, until he analysed ND issues with his personal experience. His analysis only belittled ND problems and painted ND folk as lazy people who don't want to work and just gang up against oil companies for the fun of it (whereas the issue's are there for anyone to see). We say one Nigeria, yet the bidemi12's don't care the slightest bit for the next person if they are from either a different region or ethnicity; even in life and death matters.

I just called you a narrow minded, tribal, hate monger (in case you didn't understand). . . But I thought you were redeeming yourself (are you now in the wood shed?).

^Devil trying to look innocent.
There is no greater tribalist and "narrow worlder" than babapupa, but if this thread is a genuine rebirth, it will be encouraged. . . Just choose a better topic next time; also, don't sound too obvious, it makes we good folk think you're not being 100% straight with us.

^Sharap!

bidemi12:
There is only one state i know where people can demand for work and not show up and get paid. And the state is Rivers state port harcourt. What is so hard to believe here? that a region where militancy and thugery for whatever reason can make such demands? these are people who are willing to kidnap for money. Have you ever lived or worked there to disprove me first hand? There is a company called great brands Nigeria, which is the biggest distribution company in the country. They have branches all over the country and in every major city, if it is possible you can ask there. Or any major multinational in that area. Their operation is similar to how area boys in Lagos operate where boys go about and demand money for the opportunity to operate businesses or do you claim not to know about that? It is either you cannot read and understand or just willing to argue for arguing sake. Also like i said this was during my time there was in the 90's, obviously they have graduated into militancy, I AM EXPECTING ANOTHER EMOTIONAL AND IRRATIONAL REACTION

So why ain't you in Rivers state collecting money at the end of the month, but never having to turn up?

Why are you making these stupid arguments? You are making yourself look really silly and hateful. It isn't that there are just a couple of militants, no, we are talking of thousands. Yet you think there is no reason? Damn!

Lets forget about ND for a minute to expose the flaws in your shocking arguments. If the country was functioning at 100%, would there be area boys? Don't you think there are systemic failings that are responsible for the blight of area boys? Do you find area boys in functioning countries like Ghana? No. Are there area boys in the UK?
Haters like you have little value for their fellow man (it shows), it is an attitude that only worsens our problems and makes us seem like common animals; the laughing stock of the civilised World.

To be honest, you just want say something, even though it is obvious even to yourself, that you have nothing to contribute (aside from very foolish logic).

You can go get your "emotional reaction" from your girlfriend.

^Sharap! 

bidemi12:
Sometimes i think we are the dumbest country in the world with the worst leaders on the planet. Our leaders have actually considered amnesty as a solution for militancy and to make matters worse are throwing money at them. No wonder we are constantly a laughing of the international community. Can somebody answer me this? what happens when the money that will not be obviously invested runs out? what happens to a man with no constructive skills, who out of the blue is thrown millions at to do when the money runs out? Well let me paint an actual scenario for you. In the 90's i used to work for an advertising firm and part of my job as project supervisor was to travel round the country and run trade and marketing promotions on the streets, in bars, in offices, you name it and we are there. Our favorite city then was portharcourt and all major cities in the south south. It was really a lovely place when it was still known as the garden city. But as the years went by we began noticing social changes that was gradualy becoming alarming. The youths no longer wanted to work, most would organise themselves and go to any company withing their sights and demand that they forcibly employ their people or the consequences would be dire. No problem right? but when these companies actually do cave into their demands the people employed will not show up for work until payday, and you must pay. After collecting their pay, they vanish till the next payday.I can bet that these are the same people who became militants and these are the same people we are giving amnesty to. With cash i might add. They have no history of constructive employment and will go back to their nefarious activities when the money runs out, wait and see.

Try to make sense of the bolded bits yourself (if you can); folk didn't want to work, yet they went about demanding "work". Damn!
It is obvious you just want to speak, even if it makes no sense, or people die as a result. Aside from the crazy contradictions in the bolded sentence, where in Nigeria have you heard of people not turning up for work and yet getting paid?

Are you living in the same country where this statement was made in the top corridors of power?

In Iraq, thousands of people lost their lives because of an insurrection against the government during the reign of former Iraqi leader, Saddam Hussein. We can do away with 20 million Niger deltans for the rest 120 million Nigerians to live.

Perhaps at the time you began to see gangs being formed, Saro Wiwa and 9 other peaceful leaders had just been executed by abacha? Perhaps the youth were restive because their lands were being destroyed and yet there wasn't the slightest hint of compensation or even a job outlet? You just saw behaviour changing, yet you couldn't ask why. Don't the wise ones say, there is no smoke without fire? I bet that when you have no job in your village, you can at least fish or farm; well, those options do not exist in the ND.

Nigeria is full of boko haram born agains sha.
In a tiny country like Jamaica (less than 3 million), there are health and standards officials in even the smallest market.

In a whole 9ja, there are zero standards and we have to warn each other by rumor. If you dismiss rumor, you die!

[quote author=canuck ]LOL! You think?
But the thought of wireless Internet connectivity was also laughed at in those days of dial-up - Those were the days!!![/quote]Yeah, it works by electromagnetic induction, the energy transerred is affected by the inverse square law. . . Ok one or two might be wanting to hang me at this moment (for being boring); but the inverse square law ensures that all such wireless devices will waste energy over any sort of distance. Thats why PHCN is still very safe.
If it wasn't a wasteful technology, we could have had electric cars zoom along roads, charging themselves from the pavement.

There are some scenarios where this will work and the technology is already used eg some electric toothbrush chargers (the type where the toothbrush sits in the crade without any visible connection to it). The catch is the distance is very small.

^Perhaps, if you'd kept your ears closer to the ground and mingled with the people, you would have been able to draw on first hand experience of a witness to the suffering in the ND. Obviously, you havent.
You just noticed "social changes", you didn't find out why? All of your words sound hollow.

Lets all show some self pride/love and sign it.

Fear not. In these days of green energy, no such gizmo's will ever make past the drawing board into our homes. PHCN's wires are here to stay.

Why should it even be surprising that a clique in the North thinks the struggle in the ND is "ungodly"; is it not the same clique that has said, it is better to wipe out the 20 million Niger Deltans? We have leaders with very disturbing views of the led. The Jewish holocaust cost 6 million lives compared to the 20 million this clique want expended in the ND, just so they can get their "godly" blood money.

Maybe we can use the beans to fight for Bakassi peninsula.

"Extremly" well said. Indeed, who is deceiving who?

youngies:
Don't be too quick to beaf him
I guess that the problem of the northern elite is subsummed in "The Sharia and religious intolerance in the North"

Sorry, but they are totally different. It is like looking to cure a headache when the real problem is typhoid. "The Sharia and religious intolerance in the North" is not the Northern elite; especially when the politics of the other major groups have been referred to by Sanusi as foolish (Igbo) and area boy (Yoruba).

With his high level of "candour" concerning those who are not of the Hausa-Fulani group, he could have been straight about the Northern elite as well at the very least. He could have told what he is implying by such a glaring ommission; the simple deduction being that in his mind, the Northern elite is polished or superior or whatever.

Most important for perspective is, that for a myriad reasons, the Northern elite cannot be ignored while a searchlight is shone on others. They have ruled Nigeria almost without break since independence (aside from obj's time). For a man with Sanusi's intellect, I find that omission very troubling and can only conclude that, he is a closet tribalist.

Nigeria is really in trouble with this dude. Its almost like his some kind of dictator. . . After printing 420 billion without permission, he's actually threathening to go and print even more.

These House of Reps too, e be like say na dia own cut dem dey find sha!

The man acted very recklessly, now just a couple of months into his tenure, we're hearing about his possible resignation for "fundamental" errors.

"The new Ribadu". . . Na so!

babapupa:
I don't know what happened , so tell me.

Well, we're talking about lagos state budget planner, not NAL merchant bank manager.

we do have lousy jobs sometimes,

First the title, then the "we". . .

Oni Ojuelegba, are you trying to claim that a very rude common man like you with a few basic image editing skills is Fashola?

. . .Na so dem dey start, until one day dem go comot cloth for market

Plonker.