₦airaland Forum

Goke7:
confusing Christians on the true interpretation of the CAMA law and pitching them unnecessarily against the govt, meanwhile the govt is actually protecting the Christians to make Christian leaders more accountable to their church members, Oyedepo will have none of that as he doesn't want anyone asking him questions as regards church operations, we are not fooled bruv. What he said on his pulpit was actually different from what the law states

So is that what you claim as damage...see how shallow and lame your response is..i thought your reference to damage is with respect to a particular event or series of events..

Accountable you say..based on what right?
How can a government that promote the killings of christians in the north put law in place to remove church trustee board..a church they have not funded. una dey mad?
Is it government that built the church?
Is it government that brought the members?
Is it government that gave church the money they have?
has the members complained that they need any government to step into their church?

How is it different from what these says..which is part of the CAMA law
That Government appointed registrer general of CAC can remove church trustees and appoint anybody!
That Government appointed registrer general of CAC can close church accounts!
That the decision cannot be challenged in court.

See make una no try nonsense..if not even if Bishop Oyedepo no talk them no born any government appointed trustee to step into Canaanland to say he wants to take charge. Members alone go give una better brutal beatings..

MrColdsweat:
The openness will be done by us at our own will and time.

You cannot trust this satanists who are bent on eliminating Christianity in Nigeria to modify Christianity. No way.

I don't go to church, but I know this government well enough to reject their attempt at modifying Christianity.

Like what good have the government done for the common man since 2015?

Our youths are seated at home because of strike. People are being killed every second. And your problem is to modify Christianity.

Madness!

We are complaining that you have done nothing concerning the killing of Christians and you want to tamper with Christianity.


Why can't they go and modify the barbaric death sentence and the Quran laws which conflicts with the constitution?


These people are taking us for fools. We must resist them.

We have a long history with Muslims.

They hate us. They are barbarians. We must fight them if they refuse to take their hands off Christianity.

No mind them

agabusta:
To take a stand does not mean one is speaking against the church. I am a christian. However, this noise over the provision governing mismanagement of the registered entity under the new CAMA is overbloated.

There is need for more openness in the way Pentecostal churches are being run.

If I asked you now if you know the Trustees of your church, I can take a wild guess that you only know either one or two out of all the persons on the Board.

Your Christianity has a big question mark that's if you are not confirmed fake.

I serve God in a unit in my church and i am very familiar with the board of the church and how they do things..I and will not support any law that has the tendency to undermine the functioning of the church. How can an Islamic satanic government that has promoted the killings of christians in the north put laws in place to remove trustee of a church and appoint who? And you think it's acceptable..my friend you are fake reprobate lying liar. Your Christianity is fake. No make ne vex abeg.

That churches need more openess based on what grounds and criteria? Have the government finished giving us openess in how the Nigerian money is looted and stolen..is church they now want to regulate..and you say you are Christian.. Fake..

honeyB2018:
When people like you talk or take a stand over this issue, my heart trembles for the faith in Nigeria. What will Christianity look like, after this present leaders of faith have passed on?
This kind of your attitude, made a Christian nation, like Turkey, today to become an Islamic nation.
Do you remember, that before CAMA 2020, there was CAMA 90? While CAMA 90, was in operation, which church, or NGO, raised an eyebrow?
Business community in Nigeria, asked for the amendment to the Act, to have ease of doing business, government and its officials, listened to them
In amending the section, that the churches are opposed today, what was the input of the faith based organizations? Who heard, among the churches and the faith based organizations and NGO, about the amendment?
Thank God for the likes of Bishop Oyedepo, who is a voice. That was how the churches, condemned Archbishop B.A. Idahosa, in his days and the church is paying for it today. That was how Pastor Ayo Oristsejafor, was crucified in his days, as both PFN and CAN president, the Nigeria churches are the worst for it today.
CAMA 2020, may appear so simply and harmless on the. Surface, but beneath, is a recipe for crisis in the church.
Why was it smuggled into the Act? Why did the views of those to be affected, not heard as the case with the business community.
Bishop Oyedepo, may appear evil in the eyes of your likes, but if this is allowed, only time will tell, what becomes of your faith.
Why are the Muslims and orthodox churches not talking?
Food for thought.

Most of these folks speaking against church on this platform based on this illconceived CAMA law..are possesed reprobate devils that hate church and pastors with so much passion..Oh you dont know!! you can't make the mistake of counting them among true Christians.. they can be aptly described like what Jesus said "brood of vipers"..bastard devils.

Goke7:
@the bolded, this is the lie Oyedepo has successfully spread all across Christendom in Nigeria, it took me hours to explain the real truth on approaching the courts to an in-law of mine who is a pastor in rccg.

The damage Oyedepo and his ilk are doing to Christianity in Nigeria is a real cause for concern, why spread lies all over the country to Christians. I don't understand again o

Enumerate the damage done?

MrColdsweat:
The law is not the problem. The problem is that, this satanic government must not be the one body to regulate Christianity.

An administration filled with Fulanis, who have deliberately supported and aided the killing of Christians should have no hand or say in Christian affairs.

Exactly

Ustec:
Like you seriously don't know
Seems you're yet to kow how things operate at the top,
With time you will know.

My friend shut up and give me real evidence of your unfounded claims..reprobate devils like your type come out and make blanket statements that can't be substantiated..pastor did this..did that..

When last you went to church or gave in church.I am not sure such record exist but you have the temerity to yarn B.S..my friend shut up there.Nonsense

RudyNerdy:
Hello Good afternoon fellas!

There's this Young girl of 22 I met on the road and I was attracted to her cos she was so irresistibly gorgeous in her moderate way of dressing and her voluptuous figure.

So we exchanged numbers, communicated on WhatsApp and calls, few weeks later we met at an eatery, like I've been told that first impression matters, so i dressed well and got some perf with a nice fragrance sprayed on my body then I got some malts for us to drink, when I ordered for Ishi-Ewu and the waitress informed me the price was 3k, she rebuffed and told me I shouldn't buy it cos twas so costly, so we took just malt and departed.

Now ever since we met, she has been bombarding me with Calls and tons of messages, even in her office during working hours She'll still be calling like thrice in the morning and I now observed she's going crazy.

Now about Social media, I lied to her that I wasn't on Facebook while I've been anonymously spying on her and then I came to realize that she has a boyfriend who stays in the same state but a far away Local Government.

Now the girl is asking me if I have a girlfriend of which I denied and she is now littering my pics all over her WhatsApp status as she begged me to take a selfie with her of which I reluctantly obliged.

So the crux of the matter is that I asked her if she is dating and she denied it and told me she's single, I kept on pestering her to tell me the truth and she said she's dating but she is no more interested in the guy again, meanwhile the guy in question still loves her.

So is this a green light for me to ask her out?
I'm 27.

That's how she will deny you when a better prospects come along..thats how hoes roll..you see 9ja girls.Just forget.

Ustec:
Christian's are hypocrite, they prefer to sell federal government slot meant for their relatives to an aboki man that will buy for his fellow aboki man.

Based on what evidence?

martineverest:
government can never make an imam a trustee in church...that's where u guys are getting it wrong.a Christian will be imposed in church trustee and a Muslim in a Muslim trustee

Even at that..the members who love Bishop Oyedepo finished will not agree.

babyfaceafrica:
Pence is as clueless as Trump

Are they not both 1000 times better than you daft Buhari

Imagine them setting a trustee and one imam or idiot man over Winners Chapel.. even if Bishop Oyedepo no talk all the members go gather give them better beating and drive them from the church premises..

Halo22:
If you were not a fool, u would have asked yourself why you or ur offsprings can't afford to attend the school built by ur church, even after u must have contributed in one way or the other to the growth of the church. I don't even know why I am still quoting a myopic ignoramus like you. Your type are the ones that thwart biblical verses in the way it will suit ur needs.

Get behind me..you possesed devil..fake a-hole pressing to be Christian.Nonsense..you are free to die if the church progress is eaten you up..

rummmy:
is it your tithe mr?

No mind am..talking chaff..church he dont go.. give he dont give..yet running his possessed useless mouth on church matters.

Jamjoon:
You must be a fake christian.

Moslems will NEVER control the church.

Senseless fellow.

That fake bastard agent of the devil talking chaff. Dont mind him

martineverest:
is the law meant for Christianity alone.. Muslims and non profit organizations are all affected too but pastors only lamented cos of their shady dealings

Is Nigerian not a secular state with Muslims and Christians..how many Christians are in position of authority in the parastatals?

MrColdsweat:
If there's anyone to moderate Christianity in Nigeria, it should not be this satanic government that has deliberately aided in the slaughter of Christians.

It should not be this administration that has released terrorists.

It should not be this administration that set herdsmen and boko haram free. That pay killers to stop killing people.

Christians must reject this satanic imposition.

Exactly..some agents of the devil online and n nairaland are supporting the bill because they hate church..and pastors..by their comment you will know them.

osarog:
I support CAMA in its entirety. Pastors are scammers. They collect tithe and offering from the poor to build hospitals and schools for the rich. Buy prevent jets and live opulently.

One day government will be in total control of the all the money the gullible in our society give to these organized religious scamming bodies.

Did they scam you or your father?

Halo22:
You have been calling me devil probably you think I don't go to church or I am an atheist, but for ur information I am
a Pentecostal. Ensure you don't run this heavenly race in vain courtesy of ur self-righteousness. Brethren like you make the gospel of Christ very cumbersome for unbelievers, from ur write-ups.

Fake Pentecostal devil..who are you fooling..yourself or me. Lol
A true Pentecostal or Christian will know better about running his/her mouth against a man of God or church and it's interest.

Halo22:
Well I can see stupidity in ur post and there's no need emphasizing further, you can remain in ur religious opium.

Is this your response to the question I asked.Lol Empty daft reprobate devil. My friend get lost

2020...o rugged oh..
Unprecedented things happening

donnie:
We're talking about people's money, you're saying WAY TRUTH AND LIFE.

Which peoples money..my money is there 100%..i am not sure you or your father's money is there.. why should it be you or govt business on how church spend the money I gave them willingly..or did I or we the givers send you..my friends that's not gonna work.

donnie:
Are the churches not organized corporately? Okay, let's assume that they aren't. They are rigistered as Charities right? Shouldn't there be some sort of supervision to ensure that funds being collected are used for the said charitable purposes?

Don't you think this will keep business men posing as priests or pastors away from "minstry"?

The Donors who have the money to church HAVE NOT stated they want government to supervise church on how their money is spent..there is no way the matter can be justified..the tax payer money looted by government politicians...how many have been held accountable..

donnie:
Do you think the government is in position to oversee church income at this time, given the level of transparency wrt government funds.

That's not possible nah. Govt has no right to oversee church funds

Upeople:
Funny sha! I guess the guy was jst joking. Abeg my ppl if u must marry, marry for love not for Canada crs score. Canada �� isn’t naija o! Failed marriage isn’t cheap. The number of divorces among Nigerians in Canada (especially newly landed immigrants) is on the increase, in most cases; marriage of convenience is d culprit . Some of them are frustrated; especially the guys. Some guys end up paying for houses they don’t live in, taking care of women they aren’t married to, & paying child support for kid(s) they rarely see. Imagine u working ur fvckn a*s out to pay d bills & ur ex is somewhere with a lazy jobless man enjoying the dividends of ur labor. So if u live in canada or u intend to move overseas, take time to know who u are partnering with. My 2 cents

You can't be further from the truth..many girls pretending to love Canada bound or based men..but it's all fake..

AnanseK:
What brought my father into this? Your behavior clearly shows your brothel upbring and the reason why you will never understand what morality is, let alone moral responsibility, honesty or role of government. Accept my sympathy.

Is was a question you couldnt answer which would have justified if you and your type useless reasoning justifying CAMA..but because you couldnt answer you divert to frivolities..una dey very stupid.Moral responsibility my foot..na church be una problem for this country una no see useless failing govt policies and increased poverty and insecurity..na church be de problem..reoprobrate devils..should I be suprised..mtchww

TimeTraveler369:
That makes you a complete slowpoke if you do not care about accountability

I guess you are describing yourself because if not that you are a daft idiot you will know that accountability only goes when you have invested resources in an entity or person..can you or your father come and hold me accoutable on how I spend money that i earn and was given to me.. when you are not mad..my friend get out with your stupid reasoning.

Halo22:
I know you were trying to make a point, but insult is what I won't take. If we start with this very one is heaven going to fall? You must be a religious fan, but try to be reasonable even in ur indoctrination.

My friend shut up there and answer my question instead of saying nonsense..i repose the question

"How many laws from developed countries are operated here..like law promoting human dignity and rights..how many?"

Do you know who you are addressing? look at this infinitesemal satanic bastard nonentithy oh...

Halo22:
In as much as the act might not seem to be perceived right by my fellow Christians, I don't think there is anything wrong with it. It is operating in most developed nations we are looking up to and we applaud that. More so, some of the church G.Os are abusing some processes of accountability and transparency under the guise of being the mouth piece of God.

How many laws from developing countries are operated here..like law promoting human dignity and rights..how many? See your yeyecious reasoning

AnanseK:
Only a con-man and a cheat will object to accountability.

Who permitted you to ask him for accountability..did you or your father give the person your money or resources to keep and manage..

TimeTraveler369:
I am sure Church goers and tithers will like to know how their offerings are being expended.

Am I right or am I right ?

Did we tell you we wanted such..

HomerTimpson:
This sheet happened in USA sometime ago

The pastors said no way and the bill did not stand