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AlfaSeltzer:
Stop wondering and think.

The security personnel probably did it.

I don't think so, judging by the way they murdered security personnels there... they see themselves as family

TheInspired:
why some people can nevr appreciate little things the government implement well

all they know is to post negative comment like illiterate

how many of u have hold a post that control over 10 or more people

have u asked those that get elect president SuG ...Dept ..faculty ...even president of a mere club ask them how easy is it to rule ,....

let's not be splenetic all the time
appreciate little the govt do and corrct the wromg ones

Except it's a lie.
I can tell you authoritatively that those machines weren't procured by this administration. The ministry of agriculture office in Ebonyi is just by my house (off nwele street and opposite the state library complex. you can confirm through google, it's a bungalow complex) and that exact number of tractors they distributed to Ebonyi have been there since I came back to Nigeria in late 2015.
Each time I passed by their office I always wondered why they were just left there, was it possibly just for display purposes? Only to see this news now.
This administration has no shame.

PS: I wish they snapped a picture of it, you'll have seen my description is apt. If I wasn't in Anambra at the moment, I'll have snapped it.

Soms89:
If it takes 3.5 years to procure farmers equipment I wonder how long it'll take to restore 25 million jobs inclusive of d 10 million lost est 2015. Maybe after ibo presidency 2028. Make I try kana!

Honestly, I'm startled by this news.
I can tell you authoritatively that those machines weren't procured by this administration. The ministry of agriculture office in Ebonyi is just by my house (off nwele street and opposite the state library complex. you can confirm through google, it's a bungalow complex) and that exact number of tractors they distributed to Ebonyi have been there since I came back to Nigeria in late 2015.
Each time I passed by their office I always wondered why they were just left there, was it possibly just for display purposes? Only to see this news now.
This administration has no shame.

KushyKush:
646m?

Lmao... Only a fool will believe this amount is true.

Let's start from the real amount which is not even up to 10m

Honestly, I'm startled by this news.
I can tell you authoritatively that those machines weren't procured by this administration. The ministry of agriculture office in Ebonyi is just by my house (off nwele street and opposite the state library complex. you can confirm through google, it's a bungalow complex) and that exact number of tractors they distributed to Ebonyi have been there since I came back to Nigeria in late 2015.
Each time I passed by their office I always wondered why they were just left there, was it possibly just for display purposes? Only to see this news now.
This administration has no shame.

PS: I would've attached the picture if I wasn't in Anambra at the moment.

ozoebuka1:
Nigerian politicians always gets everything wrong... All them always do things wrongly.

This is all aimed at winning reelection.
Give cars to the traditional rulers to have them sway their subjects (while also keeping yourself in their good books) and give Keke to the youth leaders to have them keep eagle eyes over polling tendencies and keep vigilant at polling units.

Of course the youth leaders won't be the one driving the Keke but it's a money making tool for them as they'll give it away on lease/hire purchase etc.

That's actually how you win elections, win over the stakeholders, and they'll swing the votes for you.

Afonjas:
What are you saying, Agu is Leopard and I never doubt it, the clothes should be of Leopold skin,
The op claimed that the people who introduced it made a mistake naming it isi-agu instead of isi-odum.
And I said the isi-agu is right because that's what our forefathers wore.

Can see it from your perspective now.

IjeleNwa:
not true sons of the land. Migration took place,either by marrige,business or war.

Anybody that refer to himself as IBO is not a true flesh of the Igbo nation

I beg to disagree. Migration, marriage and business is what made every nation what it is. There's no such thing as true flesh literally speaking.

Our ancestors migrated from somewhere and surely the whole of igboland couldn't all have been totally vacant when they came. And as they expanded, they pushed North, South, East and West.

If you were to run a DNA analysis of yourself, you may be surprised to find 'traits' of Yoruba and even Hausa in you, telling you you aren't as true blood as you think.

Afonjas:
Bro. Isi-agu is the real name, there was no mistake, our rich forefathers use the agu skin to make clothe and not the odum's skin, that's why modern Igbos stick to the isi-agu as their identity.
Just like Ibe Kachukwu and Obiano wore it.
Thanks, you tried.

There was a title for great people then like Ogbuagu.

But the face in the isi agu is that of a lion. OP is right, cos I remember that line "odum na egbu agu" vividly.

What you see obiano and kachikwu wearing are leopard skins (agu) while the face on the isi agu prints is that of lion (odum)

fratermathy:
Condescend? I was never on a high pedestal with you from the moment you threw logic into the wind and engaged in what would be a futile banter.

Banter? I guess that's all it was for you then.

Cheers.

fratermathy:
@Bibe:

To further unearth your deep ignorance of Urhobo, I have attached a screenshot of the page you quickly mention to substantiate the fact that Okpara means first son. Okpara is mentioned 5 times in the page and this is the only one remotely related to what you may have seen.


The image clearly puts "first son" in brackets after Okpara in order to indicate that Okpara (as a person) was the first son of Agbon. The name does not mean first son. The second son, Kokori (or Ohwokori) does not mean second son. Eku does not mean third son. These are all names of persons who were fathered by Agbon (and Agbon does not mean father).

Better think logically for your own good. People with your mental faculty are easily deceived!

Why condescend to insults? We are having a discuss aren't we?

I left a couple of questions for you on the matter.

Cheers.

fratermathy:
I have read that Wikipedia page and NOWHERE was it started that Okpara means First Son! Why are you lying? Prove me wrong by posting the page where Okpara is categorically referred to as a name that means "first son"! Mind you, if you edited or intend to edit the page, there are logs that will reveal that and revert to the original state of the article.

Okpara is a FIRST SON. The name doesn't mean first son and it is not a title given to first sons. Okpare in Olomu dialect of Urhobo translates to Okpara in Agbon dialect. Dialectal differences account for whatever morphological changes occurred with the word.

I won't repeat myself on this matter again. If, after this, you still wallow in your ignorant state, then suit yourself. Those who matter know better. Okpara and Igbo have NOTHING in common whatsoever! We came from Edo and that's it!

And you just affirmed that Okpara is a first son. Isn't that what we've been saying since? I never said it's a title given to first sons but a name ascribed to them in general sense.

Secondly can you enlighten me what Okpare stands for in Olomu dialect. I want to learn in case you are wondering.

Thirdly just out of curiosity, who birthed Okpara? #just asking... Cheers.

fratermathy:
The initial commenter was not clear. Okpara does not mean first born in Urhobo. Okpara was the name of a man who happened to be the first born of Agbon, as much as other communities have first borns with various other names. Even Okpara's own first born was Eregbe, not the titular Okpara that you Igbos use. No one goes around calling first borns Okpara in Urhoboland.

The name is derived from Okpare, the name of another place in Olomu. The origin of the name has nothing to do with Igbo and its meaning bears no similarity with Igbo. I wonder why you didn't claim that Agbon is derived from Agbor. I was waiting for that.

The wiki article on Agbon literally stated Okpara to mean first son (as attributed to Okpara in the Agbon article). If he happened to the first born of Agbon who birthed him? I'm only asking this out of curiosity. The Okpara name ascribed to first sons in Igboland isn't their actual names just like Ada is the name ascribed to first daughters (and in some loose terms, daughters) in Igboland but is not anyone's actual names (apart from use in abbreviations)

Don't you think it begs a lot of questions if it was delivered from Okpare as you said but didn't stick with its root word #okpare and curiously still translates as first son according to the wiki article.

My point is there might be more than you know, you only need to be open and research a bit more. We all came from somewhere.

As for claiming Agbon was derived from Agbor there's no need for that as there's no proof for that so stating that will be playing mischief. As a rule of thumb, it is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts.

fratermathy:
Okpara is a first born. It's a name. As a person, he's a first born. The name itself does not mean first born. It's like saying James is a first born. Does that mean James means first born?

Where's the contradiction? I take it that you see only what you want to see.

You are the one contradicting yourself. The initial commenter stated that Okpara means first son, same as I commented, but when replying you said Okpara doesn't mean first born. No one mentioned first born initially but you.

However, that not withstanding, Okpara means first son and also translates first born (by synonym in the case of sons only). In igboland, it's also born by people as a name (surname in almost all cases) in other words when you refer to a male as first born among sons in Igboland he is automatically termed as the Okpara.

Hope that clears things up.

fratermathy:
Okpara is a first born of Agbon. It doesn't mean first born. It is not a word Urhobos frequently use even.

Your first two sentences are conflicting, as for the third sentence, that's not the Crux of the discuss but it's meaning.

fratermathy:
Don't know about Isiokpo. Okpara does not mean first born in Urhobo. It's just the name of a place. Eni means elephant but don't assume that Urhobos borrowed it from Igbo or that Urhobos must come from Igbo because of that. The languages are mutually unintelligible and not even related linguistically.

Urhobos also share many words with Bini, Ijaw, Itsekiri and Yoruba so there's nothing special here. These are things which occur when cultures collude.

According to Wikipedia extract on Agbon, Okpara does indeed mean first son and is the first among the sub-kingdoms that make up the kingdom.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agbon_Kingdom

Odingo1:
Are they Igbos , the name of the village, the masquerade and other names sound Igbotic.

They don't have to be strictly Igbos but it's easy to see theres some bit of igbo ancestory from shared names like Eni (Enyi in central Igbo) and Okpara (First son/Sons) as well as Okereke etc however their proximity with the Urhobo and other ethnicities means that there'll have been years and years of intercultural mix probably even before the British contact.

By looking at the proximal ethnic groups, it's easy to ascertain that the Agbon will have been made up of migrants from Igbo as well as other neighboring ethnic groups for millenniums before becoming a distinct one thus will retain their migrant ancestral cultural influence.

My thoughts though.

Considering the value of naira to Dollar and rebasing the said allocations in dollars you'll find that the only increment/improvement is in health while that of education has actually reduced.
#myobservation

1 normally but 4 when on freeway cruising, little traffic and my favorite music on

MagicSheg:
Total lie. Production cost can never be that high. 78$ For where? The most expensive cost in the world is the US Shale around 50$.

As in... I give up on this regime and the unending lies. It's been public knowledge that our cost of production was between $24-28. How they've come up with $78 is mind boggling.

sinistermind:
What happened to the refineries that they said was roducing 2million bpd? Now they are working to achieve 1million bpd... The solution to our petrol problem is in our hands but those in govt that are profiting from petrol importation won't allow it. Instead of destroying the so-called modular refineries, why not invest in them and make them better.

Oil production (crude) from all assets is estimated at 2million barrels per day, however total refining capacity (design capacity) of government owned refineries is over 400,000 barrels per day (A barrel is about 160 litres).

According to the GMD, they plan to increase refining capacity of the refineries to 1million barrels per day by 2019 from current 400,000 b/d (ie design capacity, however actual refining capacity may/will always be less).

Hope you're able to get the picture clearly now.

Mofe72:
You had to bring in tribalism...
It only proved to show your ignorance.
Abia and Imo have oil.

Just look at you.

FYI, i'm not even from the South East

You missed Anambra too, who also has the highest natural gas reserve in the country.

Partnerbiz:
Those guys will take between 10k to 15k to do that shit.
And it's all eye service.

Driving schools charge around 10-15k. I actually see nothing wrong with new applicants being asked to get certified by a driving school. Many road users lack basic understanding of driving rules as well as road signs. For example some people don't even know what a speed and service lane is. I only hope that the schools are diligent in their duty. It's a reasonable requirement inline with what's obtainable in developed climes. In the end it's all about your disposition towards it. As for me, it's a welcome development.

Partnerbiz:
So how did you tackle the driving school requirement?

Got my first licence in 2004 and then you weren't required to provide certificate from a driving school.
It's a recent development but it's not much of a hassle. Just register with any accredited driving schools and they'll issue you a certificate after your driving lessons which you'll now submit together with your application for driving licence at your preferred FRSC licencing office for further processing.

aptly depicts the cost of governance between presidential and parliamentary system.

Edipee:
What if you learn driving without enrolling in driving school? And how can one know an accredited driving school?
Can you recommend one at Mile 4, Port Harcourt? Thank you.

The issue is that you must tender a driving certificate due to a recent regulation. So even if you learnt to drive without going for driving lessons, you are still required to tender a certificate which is where a driving school comes in.

I don't stay in PH however, you can do a quick Google for driving schools around mile 4 I'm sure you'll get some good results. You can also visit the nearest ones around you and inquire if they are accredited by FRSC (normally they should have their accreditation certificate framed and on display).

Cheers.

maballack:
and how much does it cost for a renewal , or is a renewal the same price as getting a freshly new one

Whether new or renewal, the cost is the same. However due to new regulations, if it's the first time you are applying for licence, then you must tender a certificate from a recognised driving school. That's the only bottleneck between getting a new licence and renewing an expired one.

jhydebaba:
When I wanted to get one, I went to an FRSC office. There was an official in uniform who was supposed to open the door for me to gain entrance rather he demanded what I was doing there. I told him I wanted to get a licence, he said it will cost me 23000. He gave me his number. I never look back .

After that, I was looking for cheap card so I was introduced to two different middlemen who charged 25000.

I give on naija.

If it's renewal you want to do, go online and renew. If it's new licence you are applying for, it's still the same fee however, you are now required to go for driving lessons and most provide a certificate from a driving school before you'll be issued a licence (3yrs licence is #6350 and 5yrs is #10350. Most driving schools charge about #10000-15000)
Just look for an accredited driving school, do your lessons get your certificate, go online on frsc website and fill your form, proceed to the bank to pay and then go with all the credentials to the frsc office you indicated when applying online for further processing.

I have successfully renewed my license twice for #6350.
Basically the charge is #6000 for 3 years license and #10000 for 5 years license, with additional #350 bank charge in both cases. Renewed first time in Abuja and second time in Abakaliki.

You can actually do this yourself totally by going online, filling the form in their website, making payment at the bank and proceeding to their office with the forms for further processing. If you opted for recapturing, then you'll be recaptured at their office. However, ensure you know your road signs as you'll be tested by VIO office. If you don't pass this test you'll be charged some amount I think it is #1500 and you'll be issued with a CD and a small pamphlet containing road signs and their meaning and will be rescheduled for the test. You'll be issued with a temporary license and will receive an SMS to come collect your licence when it is ready (usually within 60-90 days).

The problem is people always resort to hearsay and are always in a haste and that's why the get ripped off. Please stop encouraging the rot in the system and use the official channels to get your licence.

PS: I also got my first passport the same way. Didn't pay any extra money, went to their website, filled the form, paid the fee and went to the immigration office.

Cheers.

IamaNigerianGuy:
The British grouped Igbo and ijaw in one category hence your Google map. Jaja though originally Igbo operated as an ijaw king and merchant. Everything other point you assert has already been addressed

No they did not, you mistake the Ikwerre for the Ijaws which they rightly noted as an Igbo sub group/Igboid group (being politically correct)

PS: You can read up the establishment of Port Harcourt as a town as well as the agreement for building the port for more info.

IamaNigerianGuy:
The Igbo were last to 'fall' for two simple reasons:

1. They inhabited the rainforest region where malaria was endemic and sea access did not exist. So a geographical barrier.

3. They were ruled by warrant chiefs appointed by the British

3. They were largely unimportant to British interests for centuries until the late 19th century. No seaport, no minerals, no trade routes. Oil palm could be obtained indirectly from other tribal middlemen. So why bother with invading ?
Note too, that most pacification expeditions were carried out because of the terror wrought against the people by the religious and political rulers not for any intrinsic value of Igboland. These included slave raiding, killing of twins, cannibalism and human sacrifice.

Your assertion is flawed as you assume that the igbo kingdom was found only in the Hinterland. However though majority of it was in the Hinterland, it extended to the shores of present Nigeria in present Rivers State (A quick Google of Igbo kingdom pre colonial Nigeria will allay your disagreement). Yes of course the geography was also at our advantage but considering that the hausa states fell before igbo land, it nullifies your claim.

Secondly your assumption that it's was not of importance to the British is downright laughable as it shows you have little knowledge of British trade in the region before outright colonisation. The most important commodity of trade to the British pre and during colonial times was the palm oil and it was initially sourced through the Hinterland (from present Anambra and abia states) and transported through the then oil Rivers (which was actually the deltas of the Niger river and the rightful interpretation of the phrase Niger Delta) which was controlled by King Jaja of Opobo an igbo and other Bonny clans and access to the Hinterland was what brought strife between him and the British who were tired of his Monopoly and wanted direct access to the Hinterland. The reason he also lost his life and the subsequent invasion of igboland.

Thirdly, warrant chiefs were installed only after conquest of igbo land and not before.
Again like I mentioned in my previous post, the main reason it took longer to conquer igbo land was due to the decentralized system of governance unlike the "yoruba and hausa states"

kindly do your due research before providing 'alternate facts' as truthful analogy.

Xisnin:
There were many intra-igbo wars of supremacy(though on a smaller scale) as would be expected from a fragmented society.
Having a powerful overlord is a requirement for internal peace.

You actually contradicted yourself, I said no major wars (because there'll always always be human conflicts) which you concurred by saying on a smaller scale. But you were wrong about wars of supremacy.

Having a major overlord is not really a requirement for internal peace but democracy, equity and Justice which was Hallmark of the igbo civilisation.

Having a powerful overlord didn't stop the jihad in the hausa states nor the 100 year inter-tribal yoruba wars.

wizzakosh:
Lol, no mind them. Just searched google now, I couldn't find it anywhere. Maybe in their ipob google

Google colonial Nigeria