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Politics › Re: He Who Lives In Glass House Should Not Throw A Stone by BigB11(m): 9:33pm On Mar 23, 2007
I'm just glad that May 2007 is around the corner. We need to start again from the beginning, hopefully this time we will get it right.
Politics › Re: Efcc Should Stay! by BigB11(op): 8:55pm On Mar 23, 2007
Ribadu must go while EFCC organization is restructured.
Politics › Re: He Who Lives In Glass House Should Not Throw A Stone by BigB11(m): 8:49pm On Mar 23, 2007
All OBJ and Ribadu's followers; I think it's about time to wakeup!

If daddy happens to be a drug addict will you blame the children for getting drunk?
Politics › Re: Efcc Should Stay! by BigB11(op): 2:01pm On Mar 23, 2007
The EFCC position in Nigeria requires high moral caliber; anything less could be a disaster to our nation and the victim could be anyone of us.

Therefore, it is very important to understand the lyric of the music or song before you start dancing.
Politics › Re: Efcc Should Stay! by BigB11(op): 1:45pm On Mar 23, 2007
@McKren:

It has been a crazy week for me. Very busy, but not too busy to check you guys out from time to time.
Hope all is fine with you.
Politics › Re: Efcc Should Stay! by BigB11(op): 1:41pm On Mar 23, 2007
by Razorr
Well Afam, I'm really sorry, but Ribadu has proven that his word doesn't mean shit! Look at the bullocks he spewed yesterday about the PTDF report.
Where are the men of integrity in Nigeria?
Mr. Sijien: yes, this thread might be very useless to you, may be because you find it very painful and difficult to think profoundly or you're just totally in the dark (a follower); but we shall see how this unfolds.

Time will tell.

Furthermore, FYI:Mr. Sijien, this topic is a bit too overbalanced for you and I truly do not expect much from you.
Politics › Efcc Should Stay! by BigB11(op): 3:23pm On Mar 22, 2007
All the custom made allegations implemented by the president and Mr.Ribadu are starting to spill out like an acidulated
overheated coconut soup.
To be fair, we all know that Mr. Ribadu's intentions are sincere and we've given him kudos for that several times , but he has failed to produce and do his duties accordingly. This is an intelligent individual and there is no way Mr. Ribadu didn't know that Mr. president's deals and corruption crusade were baseless and shady.

Furthermore, it is very important for all of us to know and understand that Mr. Ribadu's position with the federal government requires high moral caliber; credibility and perfection must be embraced at all time, there is no doubt about it. But it is clear and continues to be clearer each and every day that Mr.Ribadu's style of operation is far from this high standard purity.

A man of integrity can not be manipulated by any individual and will not compromise his standard under any circumstances.
I believe Mr. Ribadu has accommodated his standard by allowing Mr. president to rope him into a political disaster and by not standing by his dogmas.

Therefore, I recommend to retain EFCC as an organization that focuses on a group concept, but Mr Ribadu must go.
In order for Nigeria as a nation to move forward unitedly and start again unconventionally , Mr. Ribadu's duty as the EFCC boss must be dissolved as soon as his estrange boss, Mr. President finishes his term.
Politics › Ttt by BigB11(op): 3:21pm On Mar 22, 2007
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Admin, please discard this post.
Politics › Re: What You Don’t Know About This Man, Mike Adenuga (w Soyinka, Ibb And Kufuor) by BigB11(op): 1:48pm On Mar 21, 2007
Adenuga group sweeps City People Awards

The Chairman of the Mike Adenuga Group (M.A.Group), Dr. Mike Adenuga Jr. and two corporate members of the group, Globacom Limited and Conoil plc, picked the highest number of awards over the weekend at the 10th edition of the City People Awards.
The M.A. Group picked four awards at the event which was attended by eminent Nigerians including state governors, legislatures, and captains of industries, top entertainers and socialites.

The chairman of the Group, Dr. Mike Adenuga Jr. was awarded the Special Lifetime Achievement Award, Globacom picked the Brand of The Year Award and for Conoil, it was a double honour as it was voted by the City People Award judges as the Oil Marketing Company Of The Year while one of its products, Quatro emerged the Lubricant Of The Year.

In the citation read on Dr. Adenuga, he was described as Africa ’s number one business man with substantial investments in oil, banking, telecoms, aviation and manufacturing and real estate. His entrepreneurial dexterity has created thousands of jobs and revolutionised the way business is done in Nigeria and Africa , making him a well respected international businessman.
Globacom, the telecommunications giant, beat other nominees in the banking, telecoms and manufacturing sectors to emerge as the Brand of the Year. The award is a recognition that Globacom, which operates mobile, fixed, gateway and broadband licenses, is leading brand not only in the telecoms sector, but in the broad spectrum of Nigerian industries in the last one year.
http://www.tribune.com.ng/20032007/news/news11.html
Politics › Re: What You Don’t Know About This Man, Mike Adenuga (w Soyinka, Ibb And Kufuor) by BigB11(op): 9:35pm On Mar 17, 2007
When something is GOOD and GREAT, there is no need to waste time or hesitate to shine light on it.

This man deserves nothing, but positive credit and enormous respect.

Like MIKE! I want to be like MIKE!
Politics › What You Don’t Know About This Man, Mike Adenuga (w Soyinka, Ibb And Kufuor) by BigB11(op): 9:30pm On Mar 17, 2007
What you don’t know about this man, Mike Ishola Adeniyi Adenuga

Take how he single-handedly bankrolled a foreign coach for Nigeria. Take his sole sponsorship of the annual CAF Awards. Add it to the recent Senate verdict that he is not guilty of the PDTF fund controversy for which he was being hounded by EFCC, and what you get is the story about the rise and rise of the billionaire Dr. Mike Adenuga.

A forthcoming book by Mike Awoyinfa and Dimgba Igwe, titled ‘In Search of Mike Adenuga, The Man and the Brand,’ explores the mystery of a man whose life is a mixture of myth and reality.

The idea for writing a book on Dr. Adenuga was broached in the United States during a visit. We had gone to present our two books, 50 Nigerian Corporate Strategists and Nigeria’s Marketing Memoirs to a business school in New York, when an American asked about Dr. Adenuga and wondered why we had not thought about writing a book on this Nigerian business titan.

We took up the challenge, knowing it is going to be an uphill task—knowing Dr. Adenuga jealously guards his privacy and rarely grants interviews of any kind.
Our strategy was to employ our investigative journalism skills and talking to friends, relatives, associates and employees of his company with a view to getting a proper picture of the man.
Dr. Adenuga got wind of the project and surprisingly agreed to grant us an interview.


Among the Nigerian icons interviewed on the Mike Adenuga they know are Nigeria’s former head of state, Gen. Ibrahim Babangida and Nobel laureate Wole Soyinka [/b]who even did a testimonial TV ad for Globacom which was aired many times on the CNN to reach a global audience.
[b]President Kufuor of Ghana
also had something to say about the never-say-die spirit of Adenuga and the new wave of Nigerian entrepreneurs currently trying to establish their businesses in Ghana.
“Mike has been my friend from as far back as the 1970s,” says General Babangida whom many think is one of Adenuga’s mentors.

Babangida went on memory lane, saying the relationship between him was as close as his relationship with the late businessman and politician, Chief MKO Abiola’s who died in the course of the June 12 political struggles.
“We were just growing up at that time,” Babangida recalls. “That relationship is like MKO Abiola in 1970, 1973 and Mike Adenuga more in 1980s. Since then, we never parted ways. We meet, we talk.”
On his business links with Adenuga, Babangida says: “I have one policy that governs my relationship with friends that are very close to me. Whether it’s MKO Abiola or whether it’s Mike Adenuga and probably five or so others, I don’t get involved in their businesses. You can go and ask them.

“To further buttress that, I will tell you a story about MKO Abiola. Initially, a lot of people thought that there was something, there was a business deal between us, but there was nothing. I used to tell him. I used to say: it doesn’t matter if, through me, I peddle some influence and you get a job. What I like as a person, is to be able to come to you and say, ‘Bashorun, I beg, I’m broke. Give me this.’ If he gives me, fine. I feel satisfied. I don’t want you to feel because there is a business deal between you and me…That destroys the whole essence of our friendship.

“All my friends understand this and they have been very, very loyal. When I left office, a few of them honestly stood by me and I remain eternally grateful to them. Mike is one of them. Another man who doesn’t want his name mentioned any time I speak on this issue is one of them. They remain my good friends.

“What I like about them is this: they appreciate whatever little effort you did for them, and so they don’t abandon you. Some people will tell you, ‘Ah, when I was in office, a lot of people used to come to them. Now I left, you don’t find anybody.’ That is Nigerian factor for you. But these characters remain close and I honestly remain grateful.”

On the popularity of the brand Globacom and Mike Adenuga, Babangida says: “One thing stands out uniquely about it: it is the brain of a Nigerian. He is really trying to make it the leading telecommunication outfit, not only in Nigeria but also in Africa. Adenuga is a very serious businessman. And he is not a flamboyant businessman who goes to sleep, folds his arms, saying his business is doing well. No, he works very hard. I think he is worthy of emulation.”

On whether he or his son owns 24 percent of Globacom as it was being alleged, Babangida said: “To the best of my knowledge, there is no such thing as owning 24 percent of Globacom. If there were, it wouldn’t be difficult to find out. I don’t own anything. As I said, I don’t get involved in my friends’ businesses.”

On whether he instructed Bank Paribas in Paris to give Adenuga loan, Babangida said: “Okay, let’s put it this way. Paribas is a French bank. Can anybody in his right senses imagine that anybody could walk into a big French bank and say: Do this? I mean it’s basic common sense.”
An angry Babangida said: “I was told some people went to them to find out if I have a bank account with them. It’s so silly. It’s so stupid. Common sense. But I know it’s not so common because I used to have a teacher who said if you have that uncommon thing called common sense, then…How? How on earth could I have done that?

“In 1989, they said I owned a street in Paris. A whole street with 98 flats. If I do, I’m ready to sign it off for anybody who may want to go and take it. It only exists in the fertile imagination of the people. There is no such thing quite frankly.”
On his part, Professor Soyinka describes his relationship with Mike Adenuga as “very scrappy, but I admire his drive a lot.”
“When I say my relationship with him is very scrappy, that means I may not see him for months. I can’t remember when last I saw him or spoke to him,” Soyinka explains.

“He is a young entrepreneur I have come to admire. I like his drive. He sought me out when he was to begin his Globacom business. I thereafter made enquiries about him. I was actually told by somebody whose judgment I respect that Mike Adenuga is somebody with enormous drive and ideas. And he said I should give him as much help as I could. I checked him out and I discovered that he likes challenges. He has the drive to deliver.”

On why he agreed to do a testimonial advert aired on CNN for Globacom, Soyinka said: “I wasn’t doing the advert for Mike Adenuga, but for an efficient communication system which you and I require. I did the project because the advert was about an imaginative theme. And I like people who use imaginative theme or creative ideas in business, and the question was that. What is it that makes you glow? Adenuga was targeting important people and the idea was that he was trying to use people with high profile to launch a challenge against monopolists in the GSM business.

“Monopoly being enjoyed in the business then by some operators who are from outside the country was scandalous. And Globacom being a Nigerian brand, owned by a Nigerian who loves a challenge, I decided to support him.”
Soyinka says this was not the first time he is involving himself in business and marketing communication. “I had a businessman friend by name Femi Johnson who I used to help design his business card. Every year, he always wanted a new theme and he would harass me until I pick pictures and other materials for producing the card. So I wasn’t doing something new for Mike Adenuga at all.”
On the message he was trying to convey, Soyinka said: “Adenuga was the one who had a message to spread. I actually backed the idea of a strong Nigerian communication company. I thought it was a great idea doing the advertisement for him.”

Asked to assess brand Globacom, Soyinka said: “All I know is that I see Globacom advertisement everywhere. I also know that Adenuga supports sports, especially football. I wish he could do more for the arts. I have sat him down once. I told him: ‘Listen, you have the money and the enthusiasm, but we have the ideas. Let’s sit down and work together and let us do more for the arts. He would agree, but I said, he would then disappear. He has this vanishing habit. My wish for Globacom is that they would do more for the arts. I feel envious about the amount Globacom is committing to sports. I wish I could get his attention sufficiently to do even half for the arts. If Adenuga is reading this, he should stop running away. He should come and sit down with me so that we can do something for the arts.”

Stanley Ebochuku, the editor in chief of the influential Business Day was so thrilled to hear that a book on Mike Adenuga was being written. “Mike Adenuga is a phenomenon,” he says. He is somebody one would call an enigma. You can’t see him, if you want to see him. If you call him, he can’t take your calls. But if he wants to see you, he would see you. And if he wants you to see him, you would see him. Most businessmen tend to behave that way, because of the fear of people.

“If you are getting very, very rich, you become more careful of people. So that is sensible. One area that is not quite clear to me is his management style. He’s been away for some time now and the company is running. But that wasn’t the impression we had. The impression we had was that the guy was a hands-on man. That he signs every document and if he is not there, the business grinds to a halt. I found that funny. Because, how can you sign every document? The chairman should be the chairman. He should put his money to work for him. Take a guy like Richard Branson. He does not know what is going on in Virgin Nigeria. Managers should be made to do their work. So, he, we were told, was too involved. Now that he is not around, the company has been running.

“They have been doing their promotions, they have been expanding their network, they have been carrying out marketing campaigns and so on. It looks like we hear the wrong things. Maybe he is not what we thought he was. Maybe. But, Mike remains an enigma. When he begins to grant interviews and tell us about his style and his philosophy, we can then unmask him. But right now, he is like a masquerade. I would need to learn from people like him, because business is exciting. Everybody has his style. Branson style is very exciting. He says he knows what will fetch him money. And he goes for it. And he puts the right people there. He doesn’t have to be there. That is what it should be. Rupert Murdoch has that kind of style. He was into media. He was buying up papers and putting people there. It’s all about style. Some businessmen are like superstars. They write books to tell us their life stories. Nigerian businessmen are not that sophisticated. They should be able to tell us what makes them tick. We need to know. It’s good for young people who are growing up, who are also aspiring to be like them. They should tell us their stories. Mike should tell us his secrets.

So, if you have the money, if you have the capacity, you can spread yourself as much as you can, provided you can cope. Mike Adenuga is all over the place. Dangote is all over the place. He is into so many things. To the admiration of IFC, World Bank and a number of international development agencies. They love his style and he is into areas that matter. You can’t go wrong with cement. You can’t go wrong with food. He doesn’t go into anything that is not profitable. And apart from being profitable, it has a long gestation period. Of course you can make money from the next 30 years in that area. That’s where to go. That’s where to be.

“Mike’s philosophy of dispersing his businesses is just an opportunity that he found. If you have money, do it now. If you don’t do it, somebody else would do it. Spread yourself, but make sure you have the capacity. If you don’t have the capacity, you are running at a risk. You are going to grow up and come down again. Globacom is one opportunity that came and Adenuga fought hard to make it a reality.”

Management style
Adenuga has a management style of employing highly qualified Indians to man his business. Muhammad Jameel, an Indian who is the Chief Operating Officer of Globacom recalls his first impressions of his boss:
“Two, three days after joining Globacom, he called me to his office. The first day I met him, he was very quiet. And I didn’t want to say anything. I just watched him. Of course, a lot of my colleagues were there. I was very impressed with him. He was planning to launch the brand Globacom. I saw in him a lot of passion. I saw in him a lot of commitment. I saw in him a lot of vision. He wanted the brand to succeed. And the kind of figures he was talking about in terms of subscribers, putting in infrastructure did really surprise me. At the first meeting I was convinced that the brand is going to make a revolution in telecommunication in the market.

What I thought of him from Day One has always been right. Till today, it’s right. Because he has single-handedly driven this business. So my impression of him was that he is no doubt a very, very successful entrepreneur who can turn any venture into good. He is a very, very aggressive manager. He is a very target-oriented manager. He is a manager who has a huge vision. He always thinks big. If you are hearing him for the first time, you would think this man is just joking. But he is not joking. Whatever he says, he is determined to achieve it. He is very passionate about whatever you do with the business, you do for the brand. Even things like branding the street, he goes into the details to get things right. And he doesn’t take instant or spontaneous decisions.

He has to think it across. He doesn’t take decisions on his own. He respects the views of others. He calls all of us and gives us the opportunity to air our views, share our thoughts, share our ideas. He also makes his own inputs to the whole issue and we end up coming up with a collective decision. So that it’s not one man’s decision. It’s a decision of the group. So we put our thoughts, cook it on the table and we are sure that what comes out is an excellent dish. He is a manager who respects collective decisions and he lends his ears and mind to whatever is being talked about, irrespective of whether it is the COO or the person employed in the customer service.”

In Accra, Ghana, the journalist Chief Dele Momodu told an enthralling story about how he met Adenuga in his search to do a story on his private life but as luck would have it, he killed the story. That is how he became Adenuga’s friend. Adenuga and Dele Momodu’s story is a story for another day. He talked about a “spirit who would be sending me huge amount of money, sometimes in hard currency, but I cannot even see him to say thank you.” He revealed it was Adenuga who helped him out financially to escape from Nigeria in the wake of the June 12 crisis and Abacha’s killer gang.

President Kufuor of Ghana recently crowned Adenuga as Africa’s No. 1 businessman. He says: “When you talk about business in Africa, you talk about Adenuga. He has within a short time left his footprint on different areas of business including banking, oil, aviation, real estate and telecommunications. But I am particularly impressed with what he has done in Globacom. In just a little over three years, Adenuga has made Globacom a force, not only in Nigeria but also in Africa’s telecommunications landscape. We are happy with what they have achieved in Nigeria and look forward to having them replicate that success in Ghana.”

From marketing gurus like Chris Ogbechie, Dr Osa Emokpae, Ike Emeagwali and George Thorpe, there are various intellectual analysis of Mike Adenuga and the Globacom marketing strategy in the book. And there are interviews with key Globacom marketing strategists like Chris Ehimen talking marketing—the Globacom way.

George Thorpe, an old schoolmate of Adenuga at Ibadan Grammar School and a highly respected marketing strategist says of Glo: “I particularly like the growing stature of the brand. It came in on the platform of ‘it’s our own.’ More and more, it is maturing into an adolescent, confident, adventurous, Pan-African brand, ready to, not just make conquest in Nigeria but extend its tentacles elsewhere. That is something that we all can be proud of.

I am not sure that any brand can sustain a purely parochial national mystique posture in a globalized GSM world as we have it and survive for long. I think they must have realized that. More and more, you see the new campaign, Rule. Look at the attitude. Look at the avant guard and confident attitude. The brand is saying something like: ‘I might have been a small boy. I was slow off the block. I arrived late. You had all your doubts about me.

I am now a big boy. You have to pay attention to me.’ I like their avant guard, confident, I am in your face kind of brand communication. And incidentally, it seems to me that the network is also delivering. Because it is important. It is not what you say, it’s what you do. People have to match the two. And it seems to me that Glo has done a marvelous job of that. They have been able to enter this market rather belatedly but have grown phenomenally. I hear they are now very strong in the No.2 position, looking at No.1 within their sight. And with the new campaign they are coming up with, I think it is enough to make one or two of their competitors worry enough to say: What are these guys up to again?”
http://www.ngex.com/cgi-bin/frame/frameit2.plx?link=%22http://www.sunnewsonline.com/%22
Politics › Re: Us Wants All Candidates To Contest by BigB11(op): 3:49am On Mar 17, 2007
Educating the voters will help to reject corrupt leaders at the polls.

Empowering voting process will also give voters confidence that their votes will make a different.

Disqualifying candidates represents waste of time, energy and money. It might also add to our problems.

At this point in Nigeria, I truly do not feel that there is anybody in the position to pass corruption judgment.

99% is corrupt.
Politics › Re: Us Denied Alamieyeseigha Visa by BigB11(m): 9:22pm On Mar 15, 2007
I wish ALAM well, but what goes around also comes around.

Only if he had spent some of this loot on building well equipped hospitals in Bayelsa, may be we wouldn't be talking about shipping him to United States for medical purpose.

Little kids should learn lesson from these incredible Nigerian leaders
Politics › Re: Us Wants All Candidates To Contest by BigB11(op): 8:59pm On Mar 15, 2007
@McKren, Buluti and Mamajama:

Please, display your recommendations
Politics › Re: Us Wants All Candidates To Contest by BigB11(op): 7:53pm On Mar 15, 2007
@MAMAJAMA:

It's not about what Big B1 is saying; instead, you should pay attention to the messages your leaders are sending to the whole world.

My position here is to look out for the innocent citizens, who are the potential election casualties and for the future of our nation.
Politics › Re: Us Wants All Candidates To Contest by BigB11(op): 7:13pm On Mar 15, 2007
AFAM

That is the whole issue right there, my man.
If you can be honest to yourself and answer these questions without any side attractions (OBJ, ATIKU and others), then my points will quickly become visible to you.

You should give the questions a shot!
Politics › Re: Us Wants All Candidates To Contest by BigB11(op): 5:21pm On Mar 15, 2007
AFAM:

PLEASE FORGET OBJ, IBB, ATIKU, BUHARI, KALU and others for a moment.

Let me ask you couple of questions.
1. Do you truly think we and our incredible leaders are capable of holding this election fraudlessly and peacefully?
2. How many innocent people have you calculated to lose their lives during this election process?
3. Can you truly blame United States from getting involved at this time?
4. With United States involvement, could you please identify what exactly we have to lose?
5. Can you truly count on our leaders/ federal government of Nigeria?
6. Do you really think Nigerian citizens in Nigeria are currently united?
7. And finally, as a great Nigerian citizen what are your recommendations?
Politics › Re: Us Wants All Candidates To Contest by BigB11(op): 4:43pm On Mar 15, 2007
This is not a game of hide and see; Believe me, whenever anyone makes sense or displays reasonable point, I'm the first to acknowledge it. It is not a big deal to me, it's all about finding a better strategy to move our lovely country forward.

Come on, let's keep it real and tell it as it is.
Politics › Re: Us Wants All Candidates To Contest by BigB11(op): 4:38pm On Mar 15, 2007
Moreover, read my posting and also study what is currently going on in Nigeria before you judge me.

The problem here is the fact that people are allowing the past and hate for some people to block them from seeing the truth and the obvious solution.
This is also called Nigerian sentimentality; believe me, it will never never be beneficial to anyone.
Politics › Re: Us Wants All Candidates To Contest by BigB11(op): 4:27pm On Mar 15, 2007
Posted by ugodaniel
Is it not the electorates that decides who wins after all. So, let the people decide out of the pack. Allowing someone to contest doesnt necessarily mean they've won, or does it?
I totally agree with you


The Issue of trying to stop candidates from contesting reminds me of a man in the MIRROR saga (RatRace) and lack of confidence in the voters and in the voting process.

To me, it is totally a sign of setback; instead of wasting time and energy on short cut resolution process, why not invest more on a long term resolution process (educating voters and improving voting process) that will benefit all?

I truly do not believe that stopping few folks from contesting will solve any of our probelms; it might even create more trouble for us.
Politics › Re: Us Wants All Candidates To Contest by BigB11(op): 4:25pm On Mar 15, 2007
Afam:

I'm not sure how long I will take this aggressive pushing coming from you; believe me, I'm trying my best not to be too emotionally attached, the way I used to be.
But brother, you need to simmer down and re-focus your energy and time on applying sensible premise to disable this new development.

After all, I wasn't the one running up and down to United States to expose all our incredible leaders' dirty laundries.
Politics › Re: Us Wants All Candidates To Contest by BigB11(op): 3:59pm On Mar 15, 2007
It is amazing to me that people in general refuse to see behind the big wall.
I guess, it is a great talent to be able to forcast the obvious mess ahead of the coming election; but for some people, it's not a big deal.

Totally unbelievable!
Politics › Re: Us Wants All Candidates To Contest by BigB11(op): 2:43pm On Mar 15, 2007
This is not about IBB, it is about the safety of the innocent citizens from being the election casualties and the future of our nation from not becoming another Liberia.
I will rather welcome United States involvement at this point before things become insuppressible.

And nobody is supporting Kalu
Politics › Re: Us Wants All Candidates To Contest by BigB11(op): 2:05pm On Mar 15, 2007
Guys, I guess it is true that truth is difficult to deal with.

If your leaders continue to run to United States with our affairs to report each other's imperfection like little boys, what do you expect?

Problem here is the fact that we refuse to identify, address and resolve the obvious problem (Nigerian retarded leaders), instead we are pointing finger and blaming United States.
Give me a break, guys!

Do you know that if you don't give you kids home training, it gives an outsider opportunity to train them for you?.

Stop bashing United States for our leaders' flaws and let's get it together.
Politics › Re: Atiku Injured, Flown To London For Treatment by BigB11(m): 9:52pm On Mar 14, 2007
McKren is drunk as usual, but he's a cool dude. He's allowed to be bad as he wants to be for just today.
Politics › Re: Atiku Injured, Flown To London For Treatment by BigB11(m): 9:40pm On Mar 14, 2007
In a decent and well organized nation, medical, education and security of the citizens should all be controlled by the government.
Politics › Re: Atiku Injured, Flown To London For Treatment by BigB11(m): 9:35pm On Mar 14, 2007
Posted by Seun:
If the country is organized the way I want it, most people will have that 50,000 naira. And those few that don't have will be able to reach out to friends and family members to get the money. Personal responsibility is good.

If people are personally responsible, they will set aside some money during good times to get them through bad times. They won't spend it all and then expect government to take care of them when they get sick. And they'll voluntarily get health insurance to pay for unexpected and expensive calamities like cancer and heart problems.
Unbelievable and totally unrealistic.

Posted by debosky
that is stupid Seun, at the point of death, money shouldn't be the issue.

if there is a serious government, a life and death situation should be treated no matter what, that kind of statement just shows the disregard for human life in Nigeria.
Excellent point and a great state of mind.
Politics › Re: Atiku Injured, Flown To London For Treatment by BigB11(m): 8:57pm On Mar 14, 2007
In-fact Seun, I was at your home town (Ijebu) Sep 2005 for an event; I had the opportunity to visit two of the private hospitals around and I couldn't believe what I saw.

Health care should never never be a business, it should be a non profit organization that is controlled by the government.
Politics › Re: Atiku Injured, Flown To London For Treatment by BigB11(m): 8:53pm On Mar 14, 2007
Seun, believe me I love and fully in support for privatization in Nigeria more than anything, but when it comes to health care, (in a decent environment), government should still be in control.
Politics › Re: Atiku Injured, Flown To London For Treatment by BigB11(m): 8:50pm On Mar 14, 2007
Government should definitely be in charge or else people will be dropping like flies left and right.

Furthermore there will be large numbers of fake doctors and hospitals
Politics › Re: Atiku Injured, Flown To London For Treatment by BigB11(m): 8:46pm On Mar 14, 2007
@Seun

Posted by Seun
Is food not more essential than healthcare?  So why doesn't the government produce food for all of us?
Most Nigerians believe believe that religion is essential.  Does this mean the government should be in charge?
Health care is essential because:
you have choice when it comes to food for dinner,You also have choice when it comes to the church you want to join or attend, But you do not have choice of Disease you wish to have.

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