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Presido:
Have you seen my recommendation?

Cross River is a tourist state

Really?

You must be straight from the village!

We can never fight corruption from a corrupt plat form.

I agree!
So, what is the best way to tackle this bastard, called Corruption in Nigeria?

My man, I was never endorsing or repudiating this man from start; I just do not have enough information to hold this precious position you seem to be handling pretty well.
You were the one with all the bullets regarding everything and anything this man did wrong during his time as the governor.
And I was just hoping that you would be kind enough to share by elaborating your points and allowing us to learn one or two things.

My man, you have the ball, please teach us something new.

Will you?

posted by Iyke-D:

I have lost complete faith in
his leadership abilities, he is simply out of his league (Nigeria is not Katsina).

Absolutely rubbish.
This is just the beginning; a man must plant a seed before celebrating the harvest season.

Give me a break, the man has only been there for 7 months and you're ready to give up?
You sound like an original nonstarter.

Don't you?

Ono:
I feel you.

One love!

Posted by linuxuser

You are correct that Umar is entitled to express himself but the point is that he lacks morality, decency and character to condemn Ribadu

Thanks for a great reply, but could you please prove all these horrible things you've listed against Umar?
I'm open to learning something new!

My man, linuxuser: You've got to back your point!
Do not be like others that talk rubbish, but have no back-bone.

I'm waiting!

[b]But right now, I think Ribadu has made his contribution to the war on corruption. He was used by Obasanjo to fight political enemies, but he managed to convince many Nigerians and the world at large that he had the patriotism, passion and decision to give corruption a bloody fight.

If his bosses think he has become too controversial or out-of-control to be allowed to continue, fair enough.


The ball is no longer in Ribadu’s court. It is now squarely in President Yar’ Adua’s court. The nation and the whole world are watching to see how he plays it. One year from now, we will be in a position to say conclusively if Ribadu was removed to slow down the war or recharge it. We are giving Yar’ Adua the benefit of doubt, but we are watching


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I have a number of names that will fit the role: Col. Abubakar Dangiwa Umar (retd) Commodore Ebitu Ukiwe (retd), Chief Gani Fawehinmi (SAN) and Mr. Femi Falana. Of the lot, Umar will immediately restore confidence in the fight against corruption. He will be fair but firm. This war is a serious affair. Let Umar lead it! [/b]

http://odili.net/news/source/2008/jan/3/308.html

You are correct that Umar is entitled to express himself but the point is that he lacks morality, decency and character to condemn Ribadu

Thanks for a great reply, but could you please prove all these horrible things you've listed against Umar?
I'm open to learning something new!

A big fraud, but knew how to play the game well, well.

Very simple!
Say yes sir, yes sir to OBJ and send down kolanut to Aso rock from time to time; and you immediately become the invisible to Ribadu EFCC.

MOVING FORWARD

love it or hate it, the deed is done.can we shift focus on what kind of system develops from the ashes of Ribadu's EFCC.

what kind of individual would we like to see head it? should it remain a ranking police officer or would it be better headed by a respected legal icon with no political ambitions?what ammendments should be made to our constitution to empower EFCC and give it autonomy?

I agree!

Posted by Akpanbaba:

look at GLO man who ran away from nigeria.,if his hands were clean he would have stayed to answer questions but he ran away to escape justice.who would thought that a man of that status would run like rat to UK .

Pay attention and then be attentive. Just don't run your mouth because you feel like it.
First, Glo man has done what an intelligent man should have done. When you fight with the president, as a matter of fact, a vindictive president like OBJ, you will never, never win. Folks like OBJ don't follow the rules when they want you down; everything goes just to bring down anyone that doesn't sing their song.
And the man left Nigeria because he understood this fact.

I do not know much about the man, but the same Glo man is also responsible for food on the table for many Africans; hence please let us use our common sense when we submit post on this forum.

Calm down folks.
There is nobody endorsing Umar, let's focus on his point of view; how Ribadu lost the battle many months ago and how this could be prevented from happening again.

I think his view happens to be very accurate and sincere!
What is the big deal, folks?
Are you telling me not to give this man a chance to express himself just because he was a governor during the era of IBB?
If that is the case, then you guys are not serious about elevating the country from the dusty floor; We need to grow up quick or else we have a long way to go.

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Killing all the Corrupt people by Jungle Justice will never work.

Rawlings is now Satan's Younger brother in Ghana. He is disgraced to the Highest level.

Our Black Heroes are Eroded by the desire for wealth. The Solution is to look at the Younger Ones.

When Rawlings Speak the media spends days talking about him. The GOV set up a reconciliation committee to ridicule him.


You wonder whether Rawlings was still ruling

Pay attention; there is nobody killing anybody. You can not compare my recommendation to Rawlings.

Even if Umar was a crack head, he still has rights to express how he feels and point out defectiveness of any institutions in Nigeria, especially the ones that handle Fed govt daily activities.

If anyone has a bright idea to elevate this nation, I think we should welcome the idea regardless of where it is coming from.

backslider, please remain in Ghana because you're absolutely not making any sense.

Good Intentions my as s!

There is no clean fish in the dirty and smelly river!
This is why war against corruption in Nigeria is a pure joke and won't work.

Too many are Too corrupt for Too long!

The judge is corrupt, the lawyer is corrupt and the juries are also corrupt; so, how do you handle a criminal that is being charged for corruption?
How can a fair and lawful verdict be rendered by bunch of criminals (judge, lawyer and the juries)?

This is why my recommendation to solve corruption in Nigeria will be adopted very soon.

Ibori running things from prison 

what can I say

Were you there in Kaduna to confirm this?
It is very important for us to have our own minds and make sure that info is accurate before we start throwing speculation all over the place.

No disrespect, my man; I just prefer leading than following.

I think Ribadu should be smart for once and move on quick before folks start opening cans.
Trust me, the cans are everywhere, just waiting to burst open.

I also heard that no matter what happens; many cans will be opened, but only at the right!

And his view also happens to be very accurate and sincere!

Why Ribadu must go, by Col Umar

Former Military Governor of old Kaduna State, Col. Abubakar Dangiwa Umar (rtd) has stirred further controversy on the redeployment of Mallam Nuhu Ribadu as Chairman of the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC).

Umar said the EFCC Chairman should quit the job because his appointment was irregular in the first place.
He said although Ribadu would deliver on any task assigned to him, his low level experience needs the guidance of an honest leader.

“I am sorry to say that such environment was most lacking when Nuhu was prematurely appointed as Chairman of EFCC on the insistence of former Vice President Atiku Abubakar; definitely due to their common geographical extraction”, he added.

The former Military Governor made this assertion while fielding questions from newsmen in Kaduna in what apparently was his first reaction to the EFCC saga .
Why Ribadu must go
While many say that the decision to post Nuhu Ribadu out is aimed at frustrating the ongoing trial of the President’s former governor colleagues, Umar thinks otherwise, anchoring his belief on the exigencies of the time.

According to him, “Nuhu found himself operating under the tutelage of a most dishonest boss, President Obasanjo. He was under the false impression that Obasanjo was sincere in his fight against corruption. And who would not be deceived considering the saintly image of Obasanjo up to the point of his first election in 1999 and the beautiful rhetorics and declarations he delivered in his inaugural speech in which he promised to restore the years the locust had eaten, to step on toes and have no scared cows in his war against corruption. When therefore Nuhu was appointed, he accepted the challenge with great zeal, some will even say overzealousness
“But very soon, it became apparent to most observers that former President Obasanjo had some other plans for setting up the EFCC and such plans ran counter to the fight against corruption.
“Instead, the EFCC was slanted to fight against the opponents of former President Obasanjo and to also use the institution to cover up Obasanjo’s monumental corruption. I have it on good authority that the EFCC Chairman was troubled and thoroughly embarrassed by Obasanjo’s hypocrisy and double standard. I still cannot understand why Nuhu couldn’t take the honourable path of resignation once he became aware of the President’s antics. I was shocked that the chairman could bear false witness that Obasanjo was not personally corrupt.

He vouched for the integrity of Obasanjo at a time when he had caused to be stolen well over 50 billion dollars through highly inflated contracts, illegal duty waivers and concessions, mismanagement of the Federations Account and scandalous NNPC transactions and a most criminal, opaque privatization of public treasures to his business associates and cronies. When Obasanjo embarked on total genocidal war against his political and business opponents, the EFCC became the most useful and loyal force that was used.

It acquitted itself disregarding all the recognized war conventions. A good example was the corruption advisory list issued on the instruction of President Obasanjo and his party, the PDP which led to the illegal disqualifications of all strong opposition members. It is a measure of the extent of that illegality that many election results are being reversed by tribunals including those of five state governors and still counting”.

Where Ribadu failed
In assessing the EFCC, Umar said although the anti graft body had carried out the anti- corruption war with some measure of seriousness, it does not deserve the credit being showered on it.
Asked if the prosecution of a former Inspector General of Police and former Governor Diepreye Alamieyeseigha of Bayelsa State and the recovering of over N500 billion from criminals were not laudable achievements, the former Military Governor shot back, beginning with the case of the former Inspector General of Police, Alhaji Tafa Balogun.
Umar said the culprit in the case was not Tafa Balogun, but President Obasanjo who he said aided and abetted the former IGP to embezzle the funds.

“I ask you what was the Police Force annual budget for the whole period that Balogun headed the force? How was it possible for the IGP, working directly under the President who declared war against corruption, to embezzle over N17 billion without the knowledge of the same President? Tafa Balogun was used as a scape goat. He served Obasanjo’s purpose which explained his ridiculously light sentence of six months mostly served in hospital and his house.

“The case of the former governors of Bayelsa State and Plateau goes to prove our claim that the EFCC was used to torment the opposition. They were only victims of the Obasanjo-Atiku feud since they remained loyal to the Vice President. Otherwise, how come they were the only two governors targeted in any serious manner in the fight against corruption?
“I ask you why was Bode George not prosecuted by the EFCC? The president prevented this from happening. In fact, even when Nuhu established a prima-facie case against Bode George, the president threw back the report on the pretext that the EFCC was not specific in identifying individual culprits. The EFCC Chairman was forced to exonerate Bode George by ridiculously claiming that Bode was only a Board Chairman and not the Chief Executive of NPA and could therefore not be held responsible for any contract fraud, as if he is unaware of the powers of the board in contract awards which of course are higher than that of the management.”

Speaking on the monies recovered from those found guilty, Umar said it is yet uncertain how much has been retrieved. He, however, called on the EFCC to expose those from whom such monies have been recovered, saying he is reluctant to praise the anti-graft agency.
He referred to the CNPP’s allegation that over N2 trillion perished under Obasanjo’s watch and wondered what the N500 billion recovered by the anti-graft body means to Nigerians.
Obasanjo’s hypocrisy, Ribadu’s gain
Umar’s response to the question on the coincidence of Ribadu’s redeployment and the prosecution of former governors? He said Ribadu’s appointment was irregular in the first place going by the Act which set up the EFCC. Quoting from the Act, the former military governor said: “the Act provides for a Chairman and Chief Executive and Board members representing the security services.

“The representative of the Police must be of the rank of an AIG. But when Nuhu was appointed, he was only an AC, meaning he was too junior in rank and therefore expected to attended many police and other professional courses if he is to remain in police service. The NIPPS happened to be a requirement for promotion to the top echelon of the security services. So, the exigencies of the police service require Nuhu to proceed on course. Please do a check on the seniority of Nuhu in the police.

It is Obasanjo that catapulted him to the rank of AIG over his mates and some of his superiors so as to unduly exaggerate the achievements of EFCC under him in its war against corruption. It is all part of Obasanjo’s dishonesty and hypocrisy. He decided to decorate his generals after being routed in a war. He surrendered to corruption, but he still has to publish another book on His Command.”
Why Obasanjo’s policies must be reversed

People also see the removal of Nuhu Ribadu as one more evidence that Yar’Adua is intent on reversing all the policies of Obasanjo’s administration. Could this not be true?
To answer the question, Umar went down memory lane, enunciating some of the policies of the Obasanjo administration. In his estimation, Yar’Adua’s government in incapable of reversing all the policies of that administration.
“But there is real and urgent need to reverse all those bad policies and they are so many. You must remember that the main reason Obasanjo was elected in 1999, against all odds, was to pull this country back from the brink. It was expected that with his saintly image which has since been debunked, he would restore the years that the locust had eaten.

He would reverse the rot. Luck played into his hand. The nation witnessed an unprecedented rise in its finance, thanks to the high rise in oil revenue. It was like God had blessed us with manna from heaven. What did our messiah do? He decided to restructure the nation on a very weak and shaky foundation. Our social, political and economic structure has been built on cronyism, nepotism and greed.

His policies have encouraged primitive and criminal appropriation of public wealth by a few to the detriment of the many. Obasanjo’s policies have pauperized majority of Nigerians. Over 70 percent of the people have fallen below poverty line while less than two percent of the population controls over 60 percent of our nation’s wealth. He has pushed the nation further on the precipice. It is therefore in the best interest of the nation that such policies are reversed.”

http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2008/jan/03/national-03-01-2008-001.htm

No one is saying Ribadu did not fight corruption. What we're complaining about him is the way he went about it at some point. This completely brought down his credibility rating.

@ono:
You've talked!

Bravo!

@Mcren
Presido1 the issue here is EFCC and Ribadu, not electoral reforms. It is not too difficult to argue within context. Bros you have refused to learn. The problem of EFCC is beyond Yaradua. They(OBJ,Yaradua,Ribadu,Atiku and others) came through bad election. If we don't reform the electorial system the problem will persist. Are you telling me that if your vote counts they will play you around like football?.The problem must be tackled from the root and not from the branch. You have hinted on the incompetency of the current president and his Justice minister but refused to ask yourself why we have these two incompetence guys in that position. Had it been they counted our votes as we voted, maybe ribadu will still be in office now. He(Ribadu) helped them to rig us all out invariebly he is ripping the seed he sowed. Beleive me wherever he is now he will be saying "HAD I KNOW". Sorry Riba those words comes at last.

Finally, Presido, you came out swinging like a warrior.

You've talked; Bravo to you!

Posted by funloving:

Trust me, when we do this for only one year corruption in Nigeria will crash like a pack of playing cards

Correction: when we do this for just one week, corruption in Nigeria will be dropped like is hot!

I am confident that this recommendation will be adopted very very soon!

This is my sincere answer and the single solution to corruption in Nigeria.

[b]Question was:[/b]As the president, how would you resolve corruption problem in Nigeria?

This is simple!
First, I will not get myself involved in any selective or vindictive activities under every circumstance. I will be focused, determined, dedicated and very firmed. I will touch the lives of the very poor Nigerians, I will reshape and solidify the image and pride of Nigeria. My concentration on empowering the children, the future will be incompressible.

Solution to corruption in Nigeria:

I will put together a group of 50 independent delegates from everywhere in Nigeria, with substantial clearances. Their job is to identify each and every government official that stole from 1980 through 2007.
For a successful outcome, names of these individuals will be made confidential. How much each stole will also be determined.

Each individual will be privately contacted; based on how much individual stole, money to be returned back to Nigeria Federal Government will be determined. All identified corrupt individuals have an option to return specified amount of money with absolutely no question or face uncompromised punishment.
Deadline to return this specified amount of money will also be specified.

After the expiration of the deadline, all individual that cooperated will be pardoned immediately by the Federal Government; while the names of the rest that refused to cooperate will be revealed to the public and they will also be severely punished (eg. 20 years in federal prison and all their accumulated properties will be confiscated by the Federal Government).

Finally, our Constitution will be reviewed and revised.
From Oct 30, 2008, any individual caught engaging in any corruption activities (regardless of the scale) will be executed at his or her home town.

I will also announce vigorously to the entire country that scapegoat is desperately needed.
Guys: That will be the end of corruption in Nigeria; and new Nigeria will be born in a very short period.
Then, we will all witness the real career dedicated politicians, while the business politicians/ business police men will dissolve one at a time

With love, Big B1

Something has been biting my heart for a while now.
Why don't we just enact a law of death by painful public execution on any public office holder who embezzles or steals public funds ?
We take them to their home towns and shoot them or hang them and make sure it is shown not only on national TV but also international TV. Then we confisticate all they have illegally acquired and turn their families into destitutes.
Trust me, when we do this for only one year corruption in Nigeria will crash like a pack of playing cards

Thank you very much!

Meanwhile remember that the corrupt people in office right now have imunity till 2011

McKren:
Under my regime, there is no such thing called immunity; I will introduce operation "catch and carry".

I bet you, Nigerians will understand my language, quick quick!

It is also very important to know that the Governors are not the only dirty fish in the sea. There are many invisible, no name government officials that are busy stealing as we all focus all our attention on just the governors.
That is another mistake!

Are you telling me that the deputy governors are clean?
I'm 110% sure that there are many dirty deputy governors out there, walking around freely spending our money.

This war must be balanced, it must be fought broadly not narrowly and not selectively; I'm sure that improvement will be witnessed in everything we do in Nigeria if we can just work together and welcome a new start.

This is my sincere answer and the single solution to corruption in Nigeria.

[b]Question was:[/b]As the president, how would you resolve corruption problem in Nigeria?

This is simple!
First, I will not get myself involved in any selective or vindictive activities under every circumstance. I will be focused, determined, dedicated and very firmed. I will touch the lives of the very poor Nigerians, I will reshape and solidify the image and pride of Nigeria. My concentration on empowering the children, the future will be incompressible.

Solution to corruption in Nigeria:

I will put together a group of 50 independent delegates from everywhere in Nigeria, with substantial clearances. Their job is to identify each and every government official that stole from 1980 through 2007.
For a successful outcome, names of these individuals will be made confidential. How much each stole will also be determined.

Each individual will be privately contacted; based on how much individual stole, money to be returned back to Nigeria Federal Government will be determined. All identified corrupt individuals have an option to return specified amount of money with absolutely no question or face uncompromised punishment.
Deadline to return this specified amount of money will also be specified.

After the expiration of the deadline, all individual that cooperated will be pardoned immediately by the Federal Government; while the names of the rest that refused to cooperate will be revealed to the public and they will also be severely punished (eg. 20 years in federal prison and all their accumulated properties will be confiscated by the Federal Government).

Finally, our Constitution will be reviewed and revised.
From Oct 30, 2008,  any individual caught engaging in any corruption activities (regardless of the scale) will be executed at his or her home town.

I will also announce vigorously to the entire country that scapegoat is desperately needed.
Guys: That will be the end of corruption in Nigeria; and new Nigeria will be born in a very short period.
Then, we will all witness the real career dedicated politicians, while the business politicians/ business police men will dissolve one at a time

With love, Big B1

Posted by debosky:

(like the BIG THIEF AKA BIGB"S DAD IBB)

Absolutely unnecessary and untrue!
You are one of the people that sabotaged my precious name on Nairaland today; but I promise you that Big B1 will never be intimidated by anybody, it's just not my style.

At the right time my good name will be restored and many will witness my sincerity in rebuilding this country.

Well, let us hope that someone like Abubakar Umar gets the job and please can the EFCC be asked to probe financial crimes that were committed before 1985 so that we can recover some of the ill gotten wealth some of our leaders and rulers are still enjoying till today.

Afam:
It will be better to go way back to 1960.

What do you think?