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Malawian:
Wait until the BAT Jagagban becomes a Federal Politician, Unilag has already been penciled down for renaming after him.

APC are just playing dirty politics of hatred but when the tide is turned against them, they start calling it hate speech
if it was PMB/APC that renamed UNILAG to MAULAG, there wouldnt have been any protest just like as they did in the case of fake subsidy removal and the subsequent fuel increase. JEALOUSY and HYPOCRYTES

olaolaking:
It does not work that way.

No government will do that. Unless they force people to use the port by force which is also against the law

govt can use incentives like tax reduction and the building of attractive facilities

in a competitive environment, a landlord will have to make its house attractive for people to pack in.
you dont leave it shabby waiting for a tenant to pay before u start renovation... ur house go dey there for u

if its true, this is not fair
the governor should remedy the situation ASAP
to forestall the laying of bad precedence

Going by Momoh's submissions .... UNILAG is now a state university
but UNILAG is a federal institution just like the stadium
APC people always trying so hard to discredit jona

OK ... Unilag VS Abuja stadium.... which is more renowned?

UNILAG is even more renowned than the stadium thing

olaolaking:
They can build and expand the ports if there are no patronages.

They will be forced to develop the ports if people use it more

let the govt do its own part first, then leave the rest for the users
you cannot start using what is unusable

good thinking
we need further reduction and also the building and expansion of the eastern ports

farem:
This is an unneeded epistle!

Give us how it transpired under gej,. I mean key positions, period!
No sermon

u are the one doing the accusations, so the onus is on u to substantiate ur claims that the SE dominated in his regime
so other regimes numbering more than 13 that igbos didnt benefit from shouldnt be looked into, its only one regime that you think that the igbos benefitted that should be looked iinto.

hope u can see how biased nigerians are against the igbos

BabaAduras:
If you think you are not free, that you are a slave and that you are in bondage. It is ok. That is your opinion and you are entitled to have it.

My opinion is I am free, I am not a slave and I am not in bondage. It is my opinion and I am entitled to it. I am from the south (south west in particular), if I am as free as I am, then South West (where I am from) is not in bondage. That is a fact that I know.

This brings us back to my starting statement - you are as free as you think you are.

you are as free as u think but not as ur oppressors think (ur oppressors know u are not).... but this is not the reality on ground... u are not free
hope u know u and SW cannot go to their farms the way they want because of herdsmen... what happened to olu falae comes to mind
hope u have heard about the thousands of cells herdsmen/bandits built around the SW

stop deceiving urself, be realistic for once... i still repeat that with herdsmen cells surrounding u , you are not free

farem:
You will be quoting trash upandan when you are at the disadvantage as if you have removed memory cards upon anyone about how it rolled with gej régime

the north has three geo political zones
1.president - north west
2.senate president - north east
3.deputy speaker - north central

the south also has three geo political zones
1.vice president- SW
2.speaker - SW
3.dep. senate president - SS
4.SE- nothing

you can see that the north is fair to itself and they can obtain unity within themselves because of equity. but down south here : from the above the SW is smiling because it has usurped the position of the SE and u are OK with the cheating. later in 2023 u will come preaching about southern unity.
you can see that u people are the ones betraying southern unity. continue

farem:
You will be quoting trash upandan when you are at the disadvantage as if you have removed memory cards upon anyone about how it rolled with gej régime

how is the truth that i pasted/quoted there trash
btw, explain how igbos took advantage of jonathans cabinet... all these things are just propaganda against igbos

how about other regimes before jona.. also kindly explain who has been enjoying the positions
from gowon,muritala,obasanjo,shagari,buhari,babangida,shonekan,abacha,abdulsalami,obasanjo,yar adua, jona, buhari

so out of these 13 regimes igbos enjoyed power only in jonas regime(which is not even true) because jona only worked for the north, please explain who has been having advantage in all these other regimes mentioned above.
propaganda will not just allow u people to be fair to the igbos.
my happiness is the advent of the internet that is making mess of all ur age long lies against the igbos

she knows what u know. thats why she acted on time to save her relationship

farem:
What we known is zone in Nigeria. South is not better than South south in anyway.
They lost presidency since 2015 and have not been seen mourning.
Shouldn't they be recognised after all, Senate presidency and DSP is almost the exclusivity of the south East.
Make dem relax for the others na

we have six positions to be shared amongst the six without any problem, this problem is arising because of those that are greedy and wants more than one like the SW.
1.president
2.vice president
3.senate president
4.speaker
5.deputy senate president and
6.deputy speaker

if shared equally the way PDP was doing , you wouldnt need to write what u wrote about the igbos. hope u can now see clearly who the greedy ones and propagandists are.

and please dont forget that .......... observers are watching ................

........ observers are watching..............

BabaAduras:
You see the foolishness of your write up - you are the one to tell me I am in bondage when you can comprehend you are as free as you want?

the south is not free.
we are not able to get what we want in nigeria ie state police, restructuring, true federalism, more states/local govts creation
nigeria is not improving the way it is and its not in tandem with the developmental aspirations in the south. dont forget that Nigeria is 59yrs nad we are still stagnant, or should i say that we are even retrogressing

with the situation painted above, my brother i dont think that the southern nigeria is free

HAKYN1:
Everything, Yoruba fell for it! Dont you think the Ibos should re strategize and be relevant for once! Buhari declare June 12 a public holiday, most Ibos nearly developed BP up to the level that one unscrupulous journalist among them used a derogatory term on them for what? You are talking of cooperation when you always see the Yorubas as people you cant cooperate with courtesy of your delusional issue of betrayal. Late Sam Okwaraji was honoured by Fashola as Lagos governor, how many eastern governor has honoured the late Rashidi Yekin? Prior to the declaration by Buhari, how many eastern states recognise June 12? Oga, leave story we are not one in southern Nigeria and the Yorubas that were hitherto not conscious of this fact are coming to terms with reality, we have not seen anything yet. Southern my foot!

so u mean that it is no longer "one nigeria"

Charly68:
. Am deeply sorry for the comment ,you are very right on your point . We must concede as occasion demands . Thanks for your point of view

u are welcome bro, thats the spirit on how to foster unity

Charly68:
These people are very funny,how can we help those who refused to help themselves . They have excluded themselves by their voting pattern.. We shouldn't shy away with the reality . Those at National Assembly from the South East don't have the number to get the expected result,so what magic would they perform ?

its not about number. we are talking about equity and building a country

femolii:
I don't know the reason y many people are not using their senses during Jonathan regime south east took over every where all the key ministerial positions including dsp they were even calling Jonathan their son, but during these period no complain because their are licking milks n juices now that the table turned around they are telling us about equity, during Jonathan regime south west has nothing which led to the down fall of jonathan for ever.

sout west was zoned speakership by the PDP . true or false

stop all these propaganda and please name the juicy positions u said SE enjoyed under jona

olajide8:
The facts are everywhere in the political space, you know facts are really scared, during the last 4 years of gej administration -2011 -2015 but na lie we wouldn't admit this as usual, selective amnesia go kee us for this nigeria O! we dey play ostrich until when it knocks on our door

SW was never excluded. Speaker was rightly zoned to them by PDP but the powers that be in APC South West ensured that it didnt materialise.
Reason that i later learnt and looks reasonable is that they said jajaban doesnt want any figure that can arise in the SW again that can be challenging his authority just the way bankole almost succeeded in doing

farem:
Is Delta state not part of the Igbo land again!
Was it not part of greeter East (Biafra).
When has any south South now seen as non brother again?

All tribes should be carried along- are TIV's, urobhos, efik, itsekiris not tribes again?
Forger it, no tribe is greater than the others

we are talking about region here , not tribe
any tribe can be found in any region

[quote author= post=79194281]Time to ponder........

SOUTH EAST: IS IT NOT TOO LATE?

I will chip this in just to keep the reality before us, at least for posterity sake. Truth is bitter but it's still the best medicine. 

My people say; 'He who does not remember where the rain started beating him, will not remember where it stopped'. 

REWIND TO 2014. 
A new National Party was being conceived. Political Parties, political players and Regions were being wooed to the new alliance. 

'We' Igbos (read South East) vehemently refused to touch it even with a long pole. We packaged, sold to ourselves and bought the baseless propaganda that it was an Islamic alliance that would birth an "Islamic" and "Hausa" Party. Simply because those our brethren heavily invested in the PDP at the time were afraid of losing their vested selfish interests.
Till today I'm still trying to fathom the basis for that wicked and twisted deceit especially as many of those Igbo elites who sold that dummy have since ported to the same APC.

We failed to even identify with that new Alliance. Hence the Party, APC was birthed without any remarkable input from us or presence. The few amongst us who aligned were called all kinds of names and abused to high heavens by us even when they were proven right afterall.

Thus the few Igbos who were part of it were at best fringe players as they didn't have the required clout to make serious demands and do the necessary political wheeling and dealing required in Politics to strike the hard bargains since politics is all about interests and numbers. They were even suspect, so much so that it was only their personal political sagacity that gave them whatever they got.

That Party went on to win the Presidential Election which in truth, most of us never believed it could or would, because of our half baked permutations and poor understanding of Nigerian politics. But it did. 

Curiously we turned up at the fore front of telling this same Party how it should share it's 'spoils of war'. We became hypocritical moral champions with an over bloated sense of entitlement. Who does that, in all political reality and practicality? But we did, even while vehemently and vociferously still refusing to shift our position, style and rhethoric.

We dug in. Supported every bad thing and person against the Party, the elected President and the Administration while denying any and every good done to and for our Region.

Fast forward to where we are today. Almost four years after the 2015 misadventure, we have stayed put at 2015, refusing to move forward, refusing to shift grounds, refusing to play pragmatic politics, telling ourselves the same lies we cooked and bought in 2015 and some more. 

We have started again saying "APC cannot give Presidency to Igbos in 2023", they don't want us in the National Assembly".
Buhari cannot hand over to an Igbo man because Buhari hates Igbos". "APC is deceiving you", bla bla bla.

Of course. We will believe Saraki, but we can't believe Buhari who's already President and who has a record of voluntarily picking two great Igbo sons as running mates in the past? Chukwu aju.

It is interesting and vital to note here that the PDP which many of us still proudly support and adore was in power for 16 solid years and in those years there were 4 Presidential Inaugurations and on none of those was an Igbo man found worthy by the PDP of even Vice Presidency and we are still bold to say it is the APC that has barely finished one tenure that doesn't want to give power to Igbos. Odi nma. 

NOW; Seriously, let's be sincere. As things stand today politically, why would the APC even hand power to us Igbos in 2023? 
On what grounds? 
On what records?
On what politics?
Is power given to anyone? 
Is it an appeasement or a gift? 

The APC is a political party. The main focus of a political Party is to hold power and keep it to enable it deliver on its agenda. So if the APC reads that the SE does not want the Presidency or does not have the capacity to help them win and keep power, they will stick with the regions that can and work with individuals who are interested. 

Make no mistake, I have always said, I do not blame us Igbos for the decision majority of us took in 2015. It's our right. But continuing to pretend that it was other regions, Buhari or the APC that made us do what we did then or remain where we are today is purely self deceit and I refuse to play that ostrich game. 

As far back as 2014, I and many others made that argument that Igbo Presidency was very feasible in 2023, ONLY under under the APC, ONLY IF we did a couple of things right politically. I personally continued to speak loudly on that even after the 2015 elections until when I realized that we were not ready to play the politics that was required and now I dare say it may be too late. Or is it not? Time will tell.

For now, we can continue to tell ourselves that we cannot hold the Presidency of Nigeria. I heard and read many of our brethren go from PDP to Biafra/seccesion (read IPOB) to Referendum to "Igbos do not need Presidency but Restructuring" etc forgetting that all that didn't lie squarely with us alone. We think other regions are not reading our body language?

All these guys below have all come to realize that it's very easy to play us like a flute. So like Saraki, like Fani Kayode, like Fayose, like Atiku, even Jonah Jang of all people, they keep playing us.

I've learnt not to bother myself anymore.
As some of us have said, it's good governance we want, even if only one village will be producing the Presidents. So be it.

Ka Chineke mezie okwu!!

See ya NL! [/quote]was power not arranged and handed over to the SW in 1999 to foster unity when it seems they were drifting away from the nigerian project because of the injustice meted out to them in the abiola scenario? so what has changed now.
this ur survival of the fittest theory can/will later breed crisis, you know this is africa where tribalism, religion, ethnicity matters.
we should tread carefully on what we support. remember that this is a federation that is practicing unitary style of governance, and has refused restructuring

oluomo ke.. hmnm, lips sealed

but this name sounds familiar and its synonymous to lagos agberos

let him rule his people well sha... but wetin concern me self

...... walks out of tread

why wouldn't they, there is no economic blue print yet, no direction, nothing ; all we hear about is legislatitive leadership and accompanying juicy appointments
just like 2015... no ministers yet.
hope they wouldnt start blaming PDP again

......observers are watching..............

iammo:



" Mumuness ",. You wonder why Igbo aren't giving National Power and Omo-Agege would clinch the Deputy Senate seat from OUK, or why Obasanjo selected Jonathan as Vice President when there are two terms Igbo governors

Ojuckwu and Azikwe silently gave themselves uppercut,

Obiano and Peter Obi are Publicly Giving themselves sliding tackle,

Ihedioha as now Started with Rochas Okorocha public.

What a matured governor would have done is simply to call the law enforcement and report damages and vandalisation of Goverment Property and the case would be forwarded to a court of law after Investigation must have established the culprits responsible


Lets face Reality no Nigerian Governor that earned at least 400million secuirity vote monthly for 8 years and would loot Home furniture and Interior Decoration worth less than 20million patapata 50million, even a Governors last child is worth far more than that



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u are just been petty

if omo agege was igbo u would have cited the "the stolen mace saga " as a reason why igbos should not be given national power.
if jajaban was igbo u would have cited the violence he unleashed on the igbos on election day as a reason why igbos should not be given national power.
just dont let the hatred for igbos kee u there

BabaAduras:
Apparently you did not comprehend my statement "I am as free as I want to be and I believe we (the Afonjas) are as free as we want to be" ARE YOU THE ONE TO DEFINE OUR FREEDOM FOR US AND DICTATE WHAT WE WANT?

Stop playing stupid politics that we not fool highly the educated Yoruba people - We are intelligent enough to see through these brouhahas. We Yorubas know what we want and we get what we want. We don't need your advocacy.

"i freed thousands of slaves yesterday, today i wanted to free one more, he resisted because he doesnt know that he is a slave"

the above word clearly define ur submissions.
u dont want me to tell u that u are in bondage, but u take delight in defining our own freedom for us. you people will tell us how igbos dont love themselves, how igbos will kill themselves when they leave nigeria (always citing south sudan), how economic backward we are, how erosion prone we are, how parasitic we are etc
just do unto others how you want them to do unto you

AdekunleScience:
The situation you just painted were created by Igbo out of envy for the development of then Western region. Igbos used organized violence to effect the end of regionalism which they've always been against. They created unitary system hoping to become the hegemonic power in the nation. Hausa-Fulani saw what you were up to and they snatched it from you also with organized violence. Unfortunately, for Yoruba the generation of leaders at that time were mostly scholars who had no capacity to make war, while the Igbo and Hausa-Fulani occupy majority of the military top hierarchy. So my brother whenever the Yoruba nation eventually employ organized violence to get what she wants don't cry to the world for help cause we never did, when it was you and you even tagged us as cowards for not retaliating.

am happy that me and u have agreed that a bad situation exists now

one of ur own is trying to seek for ways to remedy the situation in which u claimed the igboman and the hausa man caused. so why are u attacking him? must u be in the situation forever? just join hands with him to see how far u can go

congrats ...

i no wan hear .. i no do again ooo

BabaAduras:
I am sure I am as free as I want to be and I believe we (the Afonjas) are as free as we want be. The issue tying our destiny to some other people destiny does not arise. You are totally off the mark if you think the fact that we (The Afonjas) are committed to the unity of Nigeria equates to loss of FREEDOM. Then you don't know what FREEDOM is.

The issue here is a BASTARD like FKK that cannot win election in his house, not to talk of street or ward making decision on the present and future of my tribe. I take serious exception to that.

I also take serious exception to people like OBJ using us PAWNS in a play political game (ISLAMIZATION and FULANIZATION) aimed at protecting his OIL BLOCKS.

u are not free - ur people are at the forefront of true federalism, state police and restructuring but cant get it because the north dont want it.
- lagos population is under counted because of the sharing formula used in the federation - lagos population is still being disputed
- the south has less states than the north
- u cant create local govt as u want in ur region, u now resort to LCDA out of frustration
- are u the one controlling ur atlantic ocean in lagos port?
- i know u dont like herdsmen trampling on ur farms but u cant do anything about it but forced to live with it
- i know u dont like VAT money realised from brewery in ur region being shared with those that hate brewery
my brother u are the one that dont know what freedom is

BabaAduras:
Who is FKK to talk on behalf of Afonjas? We Yorubas do not see him more than an IPOB supporting bastard that will sing the praise of anybody that will give money.

He cannot move a motion to change his house address talk less of moving a motion for Yoruba's independence. If FKK thinks he has follower in the West, let him contest for an elective position. He will not win in his house, not to talk of street or ward. He cannot win a Councillorship position anywhere in the West. Maybe he can do so in Igboland

I dire him to move the motion, we will see where he will end. His case will worse than Kanu - at least Kanu had some jobless Igbos supporting him. Even jobless Afonjas will not support this delusional bastard called FKK.

Like I said in earlier posts, FKK is just talking to stay in the news, especially now that his corruption case is heating up again. We Afonjas know him better. We knew his bastard father too.

why do u support ur people tying ur destiny to some other people instead of supporting being free and independent

MAYOWAAK:
POOR ATTEMPT AT REVISING HISTORY:
Four Nigerians have been acknowledged at different times to have moved the motion for Nigeria's independence in the following order:
1.Anthony Enahoro moved his motion in 1953 for independence in 1956.
2.Samuel Ladoke Akintola moved his motion in 1957 for independence in 1959.
3.Remi Fani Kayode moved his motion in 1958 for independence on 2nd April 1960.
4.Abubakar Tafawa Balewa moved his motion in 1959 for independence on 1st October 1960.
From the above chronology,the only motion that was successful was the one initiated by Balewa and not the one made by his father.

i still dont understand why most yorubas are in love with an entity that has failed and has no hope of success or growth, but quick to attack anybody including theirs that profers a solution which they themselves shy away from providing any glimpse of hope/solution for the country they so much love. they just want everybody to drown with them
if i ask u what is the solution to Nigerias problems now -- from my experience, u will just resort to rigmarole or insults

yoruba amaka

i tort they were doing gra gra before

hi