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and someone said NL has mods

@yicob
I really don't like your intrusion into the topic.
Things were progressing quite well, before your presence scared our shy bros away. 
They have shown that if left alone, things will grow in the right direction  

@Tampa RAy & FL Gators
No mind yicob jare. make una no vex, we no dey hia.
make alluta continua!!! - no shaking

yicob:
The ad campaign was just not for the fun of spending money. There's a target objective. Evaluation takes place regularly to ascertain the effectiveness.  It ought to have been stopped If its not benefitting the banks in any way.

To say it is 'not for the fun of spending money' is speculation on your part, as we all don't know the true objective of the banks.

Whatever it may be, I do agree that there must be an objective, and said objective is continuously being met (to sustain the ads). So the logical question then is "what have they gained from the advert?".
If they have failed to gain new businesses from the ads (as we all seem to have agreed), then one can safely conclude that gaining businesses was not the objective of the ads in the first place.
If gaining businesses was not the objective, then the ads are not serving the purpose of improving the banks bottom line and thus are wasted resources.
As to the true objective, your guess is as good as mine (but some plausible candidates have been mentioned earlier in the thread)

This should be moved to racism.

yicob:
I strongly agree that they should focus more in making naija like the western states. If they can combine this with their foreign extention, no problem. The Global awareness is also a right step.

Wrong! it is the equivalent of buying a boeing 747 plane in a place with no airport or airfield - wasted resources

It is quite irritating when people in key positions are nothing more than evidence of the level of ignorance prevalent in the Nigerian government. Except for military purposes, Nigeria does not need Nuclear Power.

As a nation,  we have enough natural gas resources to generate power for several decades to come. The power problem is typical, like most other problems that Nigeria faces: the person in office is usually unqualified, and thus the question of competence does not arise. It is only in Nigeria (and possibly other African countries) that you would pay for repairs at twice the price of a new unit and still not have the repairs done.

Most nations that resort to Nuclear energy do so as a by-product of their military development and/or lack the natural resources be effectively supported by other means. They are often ahead of us in development. In our present state, we are in no position to manage the fallout from a failed nuclear project (both medically and environmentally)

Rather than try to catch the rain with a basket, we should develop our LNG network and populate relevant locations with thermal stations (with the national grid in place, there is less restriction of siting of stations). The residential power needs should be put on the back seat, and focus placed on the industrial centers (for which the distribution and revenue collections is much easier). At night, the excess power is then delivered to the residential areas. Power generation and delivery is not rocket science as the NEPA and the government make it seem. The only thing stopping us is corruption.

yicob:
C'mon gurl, slow and steady wins the race. They will get there. You cant compare foreign logistics with the way we do things in naija.

slow and steady? Then why are they advertising in the global market if their practices are not yet up to par. They are in no position to cash in on any interests the said ads might drum up

I won't blame only the banks, as they are just a reflection of the believe of the average Nigeria that their is always a shortcut to success.

The banks should go back home and help finance interests in building infrastructures that would bring about a productive economy that would better support their business. They are day dreaming, if they feel businesses in other countries will patronize them at the expense of their own local banks.

yicob:
Continuous awareness makes the stranger a customer. What i see, i remember. It pays to advertise ! Indirectly, people's minds are being branded with these banks. The ads are not focused on Nigerians in Nigeria alone but to those oustide the 3rd world country. Have u guys forgot that these banks have branches all o'er the world. If advertising is expensive, try ignorance !

Market ~= Sales, particularly in the banking sector.
The global banking sector is highly politicized, with companies and governments opting for their local banks as first choice, only venturing outside when their needs cannot be met locally, and even then, they would go to the big banks of the developed countries.

MrCrackles:
I am afraid they will struggle to get anything tangible in, from the global market place!

Fishing in a bath tub i will call the whole sporadic advertisement moves!!

You give them too much credit. I would rather liken it to hunting for an elephant in the thicket of a Persian rug

The logical argument would be that their current capital base, which was forced through capitalization and consolidation, requires that they be aggressive in investment. Unfortunately, the Nigerian economy is not healthy enough to turnover credit, making most loans granted to the Nigeria economy failed instruments. Thus they are seeking new opportunities in the global marketplace.

The more plausible explanation is that they are simply showing off themselves as the premier bank in Nigeria, and the financial sense in the move is overlooked, given that most of their books are doctored in the first place.

The truth is likely a mix of both.

rubi:
You nailed it. In addition
He must be clean 24/7
Handsome
Hard working
Husband of one wife

Now now now, don't be selfish. Let the good things go round.

In a wife:
1. Sharp Attack
2. Solid Defence
3. Mobile Midfield
Together they are simply called 'Total Football'

@Roughlen
This is mildly off OT, but it seems that your wife is not financially prudent. I would advise you help her get a grip on her finances , as that IMO, is what a responsible husband would do.

[quote author=$osisi link=topic=271652.msg3873139#msg3873139 date=1242403894]This is 2009 what is Saudi waiting for.[/quote]They are waiting for their people. Let each nation evolve at their own pace.
The sad thing is that most western states care less about the saudi populace. All they are interested in is that their crude oil needs are met by the oil wells of Saudi.

AjanleKoko:
I can see the reading is rather painful. Kind of long and somehow not suitable for posting.

The synopsis is something like this: The writer is postulating that Ghadaffi's recent grandstandings with respect to the AU are actually grand designs to lead an Arab crusade into Africa, and enslave the blacks. Black moslems are not exempt, and the author cites various historical events, some quite recent, in places like Sudan, Chad, and Mauritania. He's seeking to raise black consciousness and promote the emergence of a Black Mega-State that can halt the so-called Arab advance.

Personally it's easy to dismiss the article as another conspiracy rant (some of the references like muslimwakeup.com didn't check out as the links were not available). However, recent events kind of indicate the possibility of aspirations of various races or states to recolonize Africa. Not a grand world design, but a chap like Ghadaffi might possibly be nursing such an agenda. Remember Hitler was dismissed as a nut in the early days of the Nazi party, up till when the Third Reich assumed power in Germany. So it is worth consideration and possible investigation in my view.

Your takes?

I actually read the entire article before making my first post. I asked the question simply because I felt I had missed something, as I did not see the basis for the authors conclusions. The article seems more like shabby job to drum up sentiments against the arab and the muslim community, something we need less of.

Posting such an article is not beneficial to the community.

my advice: go see baba for ijebu

and to what end is this

jamace:
Hey Biina, you are in Team B o. Stop giving our scores to Team A.

Check the rules again.

a 470

Its simply poor moderation.
If a mod decides to lock a thread, courtesy demands that he/she posts the reason(s) for locking the thread.

Ibime:
biina, you be be correct guy. [b]Mikeansy's brain is stuck in Neanderthal mode. [/b]Again, like I said, nobody opposes the dredging. It is certainly needed to ease port-congestion. IYC have already said they are in support of it. However, they must release the report of the environmental study for all to see.

That is uncalled for. You can make your contribution without attacking the personality of another.

[quote author=Okija_juju link=topic=271905.msg3869502#msg3869502 date=1242341268]Biina

I'm guessing you are a woman.[/quote]of what relevance is my gender to the topic at hand

I totally disagree with you. If monkey works, then baboon will decide how to spend the monkeys salary abi!! NO!. The income belongs to the earner, to be spent on the family. The man is the head of the family, if he works, its his money. The woman is the assistant to the head, if she works, its her money.

if monkey decides to marry baboon, then he has himself to blame. He/she is your spouse and there should be no financial separation. The choice of who works (or not) and what  kind of employment they seek should be a joint decision of the couple, taken in the best interest of all parties. Marriage should not be two single people living in the same house.

So if the man owned the car, the house and all the stuff before the woman came in, is it still "our" stuff?? Whoevers name is on the lease, particulars or reciepts owns the stuff. That joint thing is so 1999. Remember that stuffs jointly owned are split right down the middle in case of a divorce.

Stuff jointly owned? As long as they are married, it should be 'our stuff'.
You say which ever name is on the lease or receipt abi? its people like you that would ask your wife to feed and maintain the home, while you focus on the major assets, only to later turn on the poor woman, telling her that she has no entitlements, as her name is not on the lease or receipt.
I would accommodate your position if you would apply the same reasoning when the roles are reversed. Unfortunately it is more likely, you (and several others) will not be so generous if the man was unemployed and the woman held the sole income. Then you will remember that the income is for the home and try to assert that the man is the head of the home (forgetting that the team captain is not necessarily the best player on the team)
If you are worried about sharing your property after a divorce, then sign a pre-nup, or better still stay single.

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If I could, I would put all the oxygen in the world in a bag, and charge people to breathe

wen dem lift the ban, some people go wound o!

mikeansy:
I think its from River Niger to the Atlantic ocean to allow easy flow

Then everybody along the path should be carried along.

It will be a big shame if ethnic squabbles once again deny us the opportunity of taking another step forward. Making use of our internal waterways, along with the rehabilitation of the rail system, will go a long way in ridding us of the menace of articulated vehicles, (affectionately called trailers). Trailers contribute heavily to the poor conditions of Nigerian expressways. Their weight makes them prime culprit for deforming road surfaces, leading to port holes. In developed countries, such heavy vehicles are limited to specific roads, unlike in Nigeria when they can go anywhere they please. Add their poor driving habits and they become the angel of death on the roads.

mikeansy:
Environmental Impact assessment is welcome but it is for the consumption of particularly the people of Onitsha and by extension Nigeria as a whole.

Ijaw or INC has no special business in this issue.

It is of no more concern to the INC as it is to the man in Maidugiri.

Is the dredging limited to the onitsha end only or from the sea upwards to yenogoa to onitsha? It definitely is the latter, as the delta region is shallower than the onitsha-asaba area. If that is true, then all along the path should be concerned about the environmental impact of the project.

[quote author=$osisi link=topic=271652.msg3869597#msg3869597 date=1242343174]I am talking about the rights of a woman to express herself as she feels and you're talking rubbish.
It's not anyone forcing another,The laws are barabaric.
What laws say a woman can be beaten by her husband ?Doesn't common sense tell you that a man should not hit a woman yet you have a law in Islam where that is not a crime and here you are condoning it.
The same law says a 6 year old can be married and molested by a 47 year old. If you support this one,you need to go and check yourself.
You may be a pedophile.
A woman can be accused of witchraft and stoned to death in 2009
A woman is inferior to a man and men decide how she dresses and how she conducts her life.
I know the Koran says your women are devoid of intelligence but has anyone given these caged women of Saudi a chance to actually see how intelligent they could be.
Would you talk the same way if you were on the receiving end of these barabaric stupid laws?[/quote]Anywhere in the world, the rights of an individual are subject to the boundaries set by the society and the state. The fact that you agree/disagree with a law does not make it any more/less barbaric.

For your information, Nigeria itself does not have a legal lower age limit for marriage. Under civic law in Nigeria, marriage of a minor is permissible if the consent of the parents are granted. We have only started working towards defining the limit with the adoption of the Child Rights acts in 2003, and most states are yet to sign up.

Up until the 19th century women did not have property rights in most European countries, as opposed to same rights they had always enjoyed under the 'barbaric' sharia law.

But all that is irrelevant. The key point is that you have no rights to define what is barbaric for the Saudis. The fact that you disagree with them, does not grant you a license to ridicule their way of life.  I am sure you will not take kindly to the Saudis trying to impose their ways on you under the guise of your way of life being barbaric. Do unto others as you have other do unto you, and leave the Saudis alone with Saudis.

It is about time Nigeria makes better use of our waterways as means of transportation. But before we go about dredging every stream in every village, one needs to exercise caution when dealing with waterways, as they are one of the most unpredictable resources.

Minimal dredging is required of the Niger to support local sea faring. The issue arises when one seeks to make it habitable for ocean liners. This will require dredging the river from the Niger delta entry, all the way upstream to Onitsha (or any other relevant city). The environmental effect of such a project should not be under estimated. The dredging would aim to increase the trough of the Niger, a move that would result in a larger unified body of water, which has a higher possibility of charting its own path (a consequence that can be quite disastrous for the Niger deltas region). Even aquatic life are selective of the volume of river they survive in (e.g. a fish must be able to swim against the current and large water bodies breed larger aquatic life and predators). The whole project might end up changing the geography of the surrounding land mass.

If there is nothing to fear, then let the studies be carried out, and the findings made public for all. After all, the entire study need take no more than six months.

For those that questions the motives of the Ijaws, I share your views, but that does not discount that fact that they have raised a valid point. To appreciate the long term effects of dredging, many should visit the oil producing areas where the dredging of smaller water ways have made them impassable to small crafts like canoes, hence breaking off interconnections between many villages.

It will not be surprising if some of the current proponents of indiscriminate dredging of the Niger, were among those who shared similar sentiments to the ijaws, when the IBB administration toyed with the idea of diverting the naija into Abuja.