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MO SALAH faces a religious dilemma as Liverpool are set to face Real Madrid in the Champions League
final.

Salah is a practising Muslim and the Islamic
festival of Ramadan, which requires fasting
during daylight hours for a month, begins
on May 17 — eight days before the Kiev
showdown.
Devout Muslim Mo Salah must decide if he
should fast during Ramadan

Shawki Allam, the Grand Mufti of Egypt, has
given permission to Salah and his
international team-mates in the Egyptian
squad to postpone their fasting in the days
building up to the World Cup.
But Salah and his fellow Muslims in the
Liverpool dressing room — Sadio Mane and
Emre Can — will have a decision to make ahead of Champions League final: risk their physical
condition by denying themselves food and
drink while training ahead of flying to Kiev,
or fail to observe “sawm” (fasting during
Ramadan), one of the five pillars of Islam, for
the sake of football.

Salah admitted in 2014 he had found
observing Ramadan difficult to combine
with pre-season training at Chelsea.
Mo Salah admits it can be difficult to train
while fasting



Salah said: “Ramadan was a bit difficult for
me because we had two training sessions
every day, the weather was very hot and I
played in every game.
“I wasn’t even able to drink water until
9.30pm. Although I am used to it, it’s
finished now and I can eat and drink as
normal.

“When you train twice a day, your energy
levels drop by the second session, but it
means a lot to me so I’m very happy and I
feel good.”

Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp revealed in an
interview with Channel 4 News how Salah,
Mane and Can maintain their faith while
being professional footballers.

Klopp said: “Salah is a Muslim. He’s doing all
the things that Muslims do.
“Before a game, washing procedures and
stuff like that.
“We come a minute or two minutes early in
the dressing room so that he can be ready
for the game. It’s him, Sadio and Emre Can.”

Emre Can and Sadio Mane face the same
dilemma


Klopp went on to acknowledge what an
important symbol Salah has become in a
world full of conflict and anti-Muslim bigotry
The Liverpool boss added: “It’s fantastic. It’s
exactly what we need in these times.
“To see this wonderful young man, full of
joy, full of love, full of friendship, full of
everything, in a world where we all struggle
to understand all the things happening
around this planet.
“Mo is the perfect ambassador for Egypt, for
the whole Arab world.”
Salah’s high profile will put extra pressure
on his decision about Ramadan.
Entrepreneurs are cashing in on his success
by mass-producing Ramadan lanterns in his
image.

One Saudi Arabian newspaper has reported
that a senior local official is proposing to
give Salah a piece of land in Islam’s most
holy city, Mecca, as reward for being named
PFA Player of the Year.
Fahd al-Rowky said: “There are several
choices regarding giving this piece of land.
“The way to go will be determined by
captain Mohamed Salah as well as the Saudi
system.
“If the Saudi system allows the land to be
owned by Salah, he will be given a piece of
land in holy Mecca outside Haram. The other
option will be to have a mosque built on the
land in his name.”

Source: thesun.co.uk

Lalasticlacla
Mynd44

HigherEd:
Ogbeni....
Would your ancestors be educated if not for christian missionaries?
Churches today are the second highest owners of hospitals in this country.
Churches are still one of the highest NGO funders of orphanages. Including Rehab and centers for the elderly
Thousands of Nigerians currently school at church universities.
So pls don't talk about what you don't know.
The case of Akwa Ibom building a church is isolated. But I can assure you that the church has given to Akwa Ibom more than Akwa Ibom has given to the church.

Why are you shifting the goal post

You accused Northeners of building Mosques and funding pilgrimage with government money.
You also claimed that such things does not happen in the South

A BALANT LIE !

I corrected you by providing proof of Akwa Ibom government building Mega Church and Lagos state funding pilgrimage.

Instead of you to admit that you posted a BALANT LIE in your first post, you started talking about missionaries.

Trying to justify Akwa Ibom govt. Spending billions of naira...government money in building mega church

How low can you get

There is something called...Separation of Church and State.

Government is a secular body.
A secular body should not build mega church with state money.

IT IS WRONG.

Call a spade a spade and stop trying to justify medocrity.

How many youths are employed in Akwa Ibom state
How many pensioners have been paid
What about infractructural development

But a state government is building mega church with tax payers money and you are trying to justify it

IT IS WRONG.

You claim that churches have done more for Akwa Ibom than the state government

Where did you get your statistics

Prove it

Or did you make that up from your head

Stop trying to justify medocrity.

Nigeria is neither a christian nor muslim country.
Nigeria is secular.

Therefore....state government building Mosques and Churches with state money is 100% wrong.

Admit it.

IT IS WRONG.

You cannot bash Northern states for building Mosques with government money and then turn around and applaud Akwa Ibom for spending government money on mega church.

That is sheer HYPOCRISY.

You are being sentimental to your religion.
Drop sentiments and apply common sense.

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FASTING 'N FURIOUS Mo Salah faces religious dilemma if Liverpool qualify for Champions League final
Islamic festival of Ramadan begins on May 15 — ten days before the Kiev final
By Dan King
26th April 2018, 5:57 pm
Updated: 28th April 2018, 5:58 pm
MO SALAH faces a religious dilemma if Liverpool reach the Champions League final.

Salah is a practising Muslim and the Islamic festival of  Ramadan, which requires fasting during daylight hours for a month, begins on May 15  — ten days before the Kiev showdown.

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Devout Muslim Mo Salah must decide if he should fast during Ramadan
Shawki Allam, the Grand Mufti of Egypt, has given permission to Salah and his international team-mates in the Egyptian squad to postpone their fasting in the days building up to the World Cup.

But Salah and his fellow Muslims in the Liverpool dressing room — Sadio Mane and Emre Can — will have a decision to make ahead of the Champions League final: risk their physical condition by denying themselves food and drink while training ahead of flying to Kiev, or fail to observe “sawm” (fasting during Ramadan), one of the five pillars of Islam, for the sake of football.

Salah admitted in 2014 he had found observing Ramadan difficult to combine with pre-season training at Chelsea.
Salah said: “Ramadan was a bit difficult for me because we had two training sessions every day, the weather was very hot and I played in every game.

“I wasn’t even able to drink water until 9.30pm. Although I am used to it, it’s finished now and I can eat and drink as normal.

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FASTING 'N FURIOUS Mo Salah faces religious dilemma if Liverpool qualify for Champions League final
Islamic festival of Ramadan begins on May 15 — ten days before the Kiev final
By Dan King
26th April 2018, 5:57 pm
Updated: 28th April 2018, 5:58 pm
MO SALAH faces a religious dilemma if Liverpool reach the Champions League final.

Salah is a practising Muslim and the Islamic festival of  Ramadan, which requires fasting during daylight hours for a month, begins on May 15  — ten days before the Kiev showdown.

GETTY - CONTRIBUTOR
Devout Muslim Mo Salah must decide if he should fast during Ramadan
Shawki Allam, the Grand Mufti of Egypt, has given permission to Salah and his international team-mates in the Egyptian squad to postpone their fasting in the days building up to the World Cup.

But Salah and his fellow Muslims in the Liverpool dressing room — Sadio Mane and Emre Can — will have a decision to make if the Reds reach the final: risk their physical condition by denying themselves food and drink while training ahead of flying to Kiev, or fail to observe “sawm” (fasting during Ramadan), one of the five pillars of Islam, for the sake of football.

Salah admitted in 2014 he had found observing Ramadan difficult to combine with pre-season training at Chelsea.

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Salah said: “Ramadan was a bit difficult for me because we had two training sessions every day, the weather was very hot and I played in every game.

“I wasn’t even able to drink water until 9.30pm. Although I am used to it, it’s finished now and I can eat and drink as normal.




“When you train twice a day, your energy levels drop by the second session, but it means a lot to me so I’m very happy and I feel good.”

Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp revealed in an interview with Channel 4 News how Salah, Mane and Can maintain their faith while being professional footballers.

Klopp said: “Salah is a Muslim. He’s doing all the things that Muslims do.

“Before a game, washing procedures and stuff like that.

“We come a minute or two minutes early in the dressing room so that he can be ready for the game. It’s him, Sadio and Emre Can.”

Klopp went on to acknowledge what an important symbol Salah has become in a world full of conflict and anti-Muslim bigotry. The Liverpool boss added: “It’s fantastic. It’s exactly what we need in these times.

“To see this wonderful young man, full of joy, full of love, full of friendship, full of everything, in a world where we all struggle to understand all the things happening around this planet.

“Mo is the perfect ambassador for Egypt, for the whole Arab world.”

Salah’s high profile will put extra pressure on his decision about Ramadan. Entrepreneurs are cashing in on his success by mass-producing Ramadan lanterns in his image.

One Saudi Arabian newspaper has reported that a senior local official is proposing to give Salah a piece of land in Islam’s most holy city, Mecca, as reward for being named PFA Player of the Year.

Fahd al-Rowky said: “There are several choices regarding giving this piece of land.

“The way to go will be determined by captain Mohamed Salah as well as the Saudi system.

“If the Saudi system allows the land to be owned by Salah, he will be given a piece of land in holy Mecca outside Haram. The other option will be to have a mosque built on the land in his name.”

HigherEd:
Nobody should come and say religion is this or that. Pls be specific and point at Islam.

Islam seems to be a state funded religion, something Christianity isn't entitled to even in the south. Their govt up there build the mosques, Quranic schools, fund the pilgrimage and even pay the sultan. Christianity on the other hand is privately funded by interested participants...

Lalasticlala

Some of these things you accuse muslims of have been done by christians in the south.

Akwa Ibom state government is building an 8500 capacity mega church.

Lagos state once funded christians pilgrimage to Jerusalem.

Islam is not the only problem.
Christianity has contributed it's own share of problems.
Both religions are guilty.

Nigeria is better off without religion.
We need total secularisation.

Liverpool should replace Coutinho.
Our midfield is litterd with many central midfielders.
The only creative midfielder we have (Milner and Lalana) cant be considered to be long term options.
Milner is almost 33 and Lalana has injury problems.

Nabil Fekir would be a dream signing.
He is the only realistic signing that can fill the void left by Coutinho.

We cound also sign a partner for Keita.
I dont trust Henderson.... and Emre Can is about to join Juventus.
That leaves us with only Wijnaldum and an injured Chamberlain.

I hope we sign Jorginho.
Ruben Neves is another option but i dont want a potential player.
We need a proven player and that man is Jorginho.

Modric is about to leave Madrid.
We could make a swoop.

Finally, we need a partner for Van Dijk.
Lovren is good but inconsistent and prone to errors.
Koulibaly is my dream signing.
That man is a rock in Napoli defence.

I hope we sign Allison too.
Mig's future at Liverpool looks bleak and Karuis needs a stonger competition.
Allison will do.

YNWA

And remember, Klopp, dont let Madrid get their filthy shirt on Salah.
Salah is going nowhere.
He remains at Liverpool.

shankara7:
KDB was better and consistent throughout the season. Sallah's form is just a flash in the pan..

Salah is no flash in the pan.
He is not inconsistent.
He is not an on and off player.

Ever since he hit the ground running in September, he has never gone 3 games without registering a goal or an assist.

Dude averages a goal/assist per game.
That is consistency.

If 32 goals in 36 games is not consistency.
Then i dont know what consistency is.

shankara7:
KDB didn't fade at any point. The only advantage Salah had over him is number of goals and that's because he is a midfielder.

Salah is not a striker.
His job is to help the main striker.
Unless you're Messi or CR7 no one expects 44 goals in a season from a winger!
Oh did i mention in addition to his goals, Salah also has 15 assist this season.
Even Hazard,Willian,Sanchez never hit 40 in a season.

Salah suprised everyone.
The main strikers in PL -Lukaku, Kane, Morata, Lacazete, Aguero were left in the dust by Salah in the race for golden boot.

He's the highest goal scorer in Europe this season after Messi and CR7.

And he's not a striker.

That is amazing!

Ready Player One 9/10
If you are a gamer you're gonna love this movie.
I love the concept.
Crazy world tho
Steven Speilberg never disappoints.
Ready Player One kept me glued to my computer screen from start to finish.
Whoever came up with such a beautiful concept deserves an accolade.
I heard that the movie is based on a novel.

I dey look for the novel.
Can someone tell me where i can find the novel

NASA is happy to announce that all those Chelsea fans who went over the moon after beating Liverpool have finally landed back to Earth.

34webers:
I swear, there is need to start including tribe in passport, state is not enough. The way some animals are painting us black is getting out of hands.

The article is talking about Nigerians abusing their US visa by sneaking into Canada.
It has nothing to do with tribe.

SaviTar:
I cant believe that a crappy Black Panther movie is rated higher than Infinity War on Rotten Tomatoes
Wakanda conspiracy is that
It's very obvious that critics went easy on Black Panther for fear of being called RACIST :/
That movie is overated.
The storyline is average.
The acting is wooden.
And the CGI
Dont get me started on the crappy CGI.
Those Rhinos made me wanna throw up.
Black Panther himself had a messy CGI.
The final battle was too poor.
The part where Shuri fired something at two soldiers and they went flying across the screen.
I puked.

I wanted to give the movie a 4/10 but for the sake of an impressive Michael B Jordan and Andy Serkis, i'll give it a 5.5/10.

I'm not impressed.

Apparently the only people defending this movie are butt hurt Marvel fanboys.

Trust Rotten Tomatoes at your own peril.

Not only is Black Panther rated higher than Infinity War, it is also rated higher than the legendary Dark Knight.

SAMBHOSS:
let beorn catch you......all ye spoilees....

Who is beorn

Ishilove:
I think a separate thread should be created to discuss spoilers

I'm about to start watching Black Panther, even though BlackManta Don spoil am finish

Ishilove:
You have no joy. I haven't watched Black Panther, but now I already know that Forest Whitaker's character died somewhere before the end of the movie. You have also critically analysed a movie that has not been seen by large percentage of us on this thread.

You have removed every element of surprise and expectation. Nothing to look forward to again. I might as well not even bother downloading again since you have ruined it all.

Thanks for spoiling the movie. Thanks a lot.

Come on, its been nearly 3 MONTHS since that movie was released.
3 fucking months.
Perhaps i should have waited 9 months before dropping a complete review (with spoilers)

Btw, i know that some people have not seen the movie.
But that has nothing to do with me.
I heard that the clear blu ray version is out.
So if anyone has not seen it, then its because they dont want to.
Or maybe they are not interested in the movie.
Or maybe they wanna wait another 2 months before seeing the movie.

Ishilove:
BlackManta, next time when a film doesn't impress you, kindly find more sensitive ways of critiquing without ruining the fun for the rest of us.

How did i ruin the fun
Come on, i just dropped my honest review.
I meant no harm

Black Panther 5/10.

So i had the chance to see Black Panther again.

The first time i saw the movie at the cinema i rated it 6/10.
Today i have reduced it to 5/10.

Black Panther is so overated and it didn't live up to the crazy hype.
Marvel fanboys might come for my head.
But the truth is even after seeing the movie nearly 3 times, i still cant get myself to like it.

I can point out several flaws in that movie but let's start with the good part shall we

The good thing about Black Panther is the way African cultural elements was potrayed.
The movie is based in Africa so i was expecting it and Marvel didn't dissapoint.
They put up a good effort in expressing the aesthetic authencity of African elements in this movie.

Another thing i liked about Black Panther was Andy Serkis (Ulysses Klaue) and Michael B Jordan (Killmonger)
Andy's acting was superb. He was the only one who seemed like he wasn't reading from a script and he got genuine laughs out of me.

Michael's acting was a close second.
He brought Killmonger to life unlike Boseman whoose character was very dull and boring.

What i didn't like in BLACK PANTHER

Now lets get down to the bad aspects of this overhyped movie.

1. Predictable and Poor storyline:

The story was extremely predictable and to be honest I don't know if the most virtuous resolution was reached in the climax. Michael B Jordan's character had fairly reasonable intentions for wanting to kill the Black Panther and take his place in Wakanda as he had been abandoned, with seemingly no family, to live in the ghettos of Oakland. However, his whole plan to give advanced Wakandan weaponry to every African person in the world so they could kill and overthrow people in power who weren't African was extremely "on-the-chin" in terms of its narrative motivations within the current climate. It wasn't remotely clever or nuanced and really unbalanced his character, his motivations were understandable but his plan was moronic. Additionally, who didn't see Black Panther surviving his fall? Who didn't see the Gorilla tribe coming to the rescue at the end? The entire movie was so bland and predictable I wanted it to be over well before the end.

2. LACK OF CHARACTER VALUE

I didn't fall in love with any major character except Ulysses and Killmonger.
Most part of the movie focused on T'challa but in the end i found his character very boring and dull.

Forest Whitaker's character was shallow. I barely knew him. So i didn't give a Bleep when he died.

In this movie they spend maybe 30 seconds building up the characters, if even that. They just assume that we will have feelings to any character who pops up in the movie - BUT WE DON'T.
If anyone fights, almost dies and in the end dies anyways we just do not care since we do not get to know the person. Forrest Whitaker acts is but off yet you do not care if he dies... WHO is he, tell us something about him before please (!).

3. POOR ACTING

The acting was very wooden - Not a lot to say here really, some really poor line delivery from the cast across the board except for Andy Serkis and Michael B Jordan. No one was particularly charismatic, the main character for instance was extremely boring.

4. POOR SCRIPT

The script was very robotic - This ties into the poor acting, but perhaps as a result of the script, some of the actors never really had a chance to bring their characters to life.

5. T'CHALA


Basically throughout the entire movie you never really learn anything or see anything of the Black Panther's character, he basically moves from one place to another showing no emotion and just either smashes things or asks people questions. Apparently the character is supposed to be very intelligent, while it was probably a narrative choice, the Black Panther in this movie seemed like an emotionless Jarhead whose only really characteristic was that he get nervous around his girlfriend..

6. POOR ACTION SEQUENCE

Apart from the impressive car chase and the challenge stuff, every other fight scene in this movie was average and lacklustre.
the action in the movie is terrible and not remotely on the level of the well-choreographed fighting in say Captain America Winter Soldier - please for the love of god show someone getting punched or kicked without having to cut the shot 5 times.

7. POOR CGI

The CGI in this movie is terrible.
Did any one notice the Rhinos
Very poor CGI.
the CGI was awful in the action scenes: whenever someone was even prodded, they would go flying across the screen in the most outlandish fashion.
the CGI on Black Panther felt extremely overused and was surprisingly quite bad.

8. SOUNDTRACK

The impressive Kendrick Lamar curated soundtracks barely feature in this movie.
The orchestral score is also quite average, coming in strong at weird moments and being quite out of place in certain places.


BLACK PANTHER 5/10

oyetpel:
You people are ungrateful calling Black panther(8.5/10) an overrated movie. WTF.

Y'all should appreciate having this movie made during your lifetime.

The movie is a piece of act.

Good storyline, nice conversations and punch lines,nice costumes and excellent casts.



"Just bury me in the ocean with my ancestors that jumped from the ships, 'cause they knew death was better than bondage". -Micheal B, Jordan(aka killmonger)





Kanye is right, slavery was a choice, considering the fact that the slaves were sold by their fellow blacks.
This also brings about the thought that what we are experiencing in this country by our politicians is a choice, our fortune lies in our hands, Fela preached enough.


When i am settled with a nice gf, i think i will start going to the cinema, waited too long for this movie.

Kanye West is wrong.
Slavery was a choice
Choice Okay!
But whose choice Whose decisions
In this discourse, consulting history and of course the understanding of human psychology, and also considering the different parties involved, it is wrong to pick pastel and a board and proceed to paint the picture Kanye has painted.
Did certain, nay, many Africans sell their own people into slavery, of their own will
Yes.
Did the slave traders buy them of their own will
Yes.
Did the unfortunate slaves choose to be sold into slavery, to be carted away to a foreign land, in chains
No!
There were choices alright, but the party most affected in this period of history definitely didn't have the luxury of choice. The only choice they had was to commit suicide, or remain in chains, which is really no choice at all, for most of human population.

SeishinSenshi:
So Wells is gonna become the new HR. Lol.
Btw, I thought Barry could phase faster than the eyes can see, so what stops him from defeating Devoe with that? This season has been a huge letdown.

I dont want Devoe to be beaten too easily.
That will be the biggest letdown.

ominilongest:
Madrid don't joke with finals.... U can watch the previous highlights...sure its a final,u will give ur self hope na..but when the final whistle is blown it will come only one thing.. "Madrid have more experience that's why they win"... Good night

The last time Madrid lost a Champions league final was in 1981.....
And that was against LIVERPOOL!!!

maynia:
And the last time you checked

You didn't see Madrid beating juve at home with 3 goals

Unresponded?

Ofcourse I saw that.
And Juve proved that Madrid is not invincible in UCL

oooduancalmdown:
Real madrid fans are underrating Liverpool because of this match which will be their downfall. Liverpool have scored 43 goals in 14 games this season, which is a record in a Champions league season. They surpassed the record held by Barcelona 19 years ago. What is most astonishing is that the front 3 have scored a combine 29 goals out of the 43

My prayer is that Madrid should underate Liverpool.
I pray that Zidane and his boys will underate us.
I hope they compare us with Getafe and Malaga.
I hope they underate Liverpool well well.
I pray they write Liverpool off 2 weeks before final.

That will be their greatest mistake

oooduancalmdown:
Real madrid fans are underrating Liverpool because of this match which will be their downfall. Liverpool have scored 43 goals in 14 games this season, which is a record in a Champions league season. They surpassed the record held by Barcelona 19 years ago. What is most astonishing is that the front 3 have scored a combine 29 goals out of the 43

You forgot to add...
That scary front three ALONE has scored more goals than all the teams in UCL this season.

ominilongest:
lol Liverpool defence calling Madrid defence shaky?..u DAT can concede 3-4goals within 10min..is it not Liverpool that we all know..I mean it just happened tonight, u concede how many goals in how many minutes...

Last time I checked Madrid's almighty defence were trailing 3-0 at the hands of Juve.
Also in la liga top 4 Madrid has the worst defence.

ominilongest:
last year before the juventus match, they(juve) were so confident because they believe Madrid qualified with luck... Not until the final whistle Buffon said "they have more experience than us".. No b beans to come up against Madrid and I repeat if your midfield can't outshine Madrid's midfield then you're losing the match...why do u think iniesta and messi are always deployed to the midfield against Madrid, do u watch yesterday match?.. James,tolliso and alcantara torment modric, kross and kovacic,...that's y madrid can't get a result....and do u want to compare Liverpool midfield to Madrid?... HELL NO!...Madrid will control the tempo of the game..it's very obvious Madrid will beat Liverpool HANDS DOWN

The final is an open game.
Anything can happen.
Don't write off any team.

I remember Man City has a better mid field than Liverpool but they collapsed.

Roma also has a better mid field than Liverpool but they collapsed.

That Madrid mid field failed to stop Tottenham, Juve even small Leganes.

Anything can happen in the finals.
It's an open game.

Madrid is not invincible.
Their UCL winning streak will eventually come to an end.

ominilongest:
I mean Spanish league have turn champions league to copa del rey... ..take heart Liverpool fans,it's ours... But wait o,someone in his right sense will think LOVREN/VAN DIJK will silent RONALDO/BENZEMA or comparing Henderson/wijnaldum/milner to Kross,modric, casemiro...Madrid can handle anything coming there way,but Liverpool?.. I doubt that....congratulations to all Spanish league fans on our 5th consecutive copa del rey/champions league..cheers

Liverpool has a better front three than Madrid.
Liverpool has the best attack in UCL this season.
That deadly front three has scored the highest goals in UCL this season.
So dont write them off.

Liverpool have a vulnerable defence just like Madrid.
But they can outscore Madrid with that front three.

crazygod:
Coming from a Liverpool fan, Roma was definitely the better team. It wasn't Salah's night. Everyday is not Christmas. But I'm afraid this team can't upset Madrid.

This Liverpool team can upset Madrid 100% but not with this perfomance.
I would never write off a team cuz of one bad performance.
Last time I checked the almighty Madrid was trailing 3-0 at Bernabeu at the hands of Juve.
One thing I learnt this year is that Italian teams don't give up.

The final is a 100% open game.
Anything can happen.
If Madrid underate Liverpool cuz of this one bad performance, then Liverpool will overwhelm them.

gsparks01:
Says a lot about this 'attacking' team

'Attacking team' my black ass
More like a bunch of bus drivers

Heavance:
Yahweh doesn't give such instructions that these men of god give.
No one should use the name of God in such ways

If Yahweh can ask the isrealites to kill the midianites and take their virgins as sex slaves, what makes you think he wont ask a pastor to take off a ladies pant

damosky12:
You blabbed about how Yahweh gave law to Moses and ended it with the saying of Jesus in the new testament.


How confused!

The ten commandments was given by God. True! The summary of all these is Love that Jesus Himself commanded in the new testament.

However, the hundreds of ordinances which included the stoning, killing, blood sacrifices, all came by Moses.

When you are ready to learn, know that Moses presented the laws and ordinances to the people based on the lack of sufficient knowledge of God at that time.

2 Corinthians 3:13-16
[13]And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
[14]But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
[15]But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
[16]Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.


Christ is the true revelation of God.

Not the laws and ordinances of Moses.

Moses is a prophet of Yahweh.
He had a personal relationship with Yahweh. Yahweh spoke to Moses and directed him.

So which insufficient knowledge are you blabbing about

Someone who Yahweh spoke directly to had insufficient knowledge

WTF

He also had insufficient knowledge when he gave the people the ten commandments.

He also had insufficient knowledge when he spoke to Pharoah about Yahweh's instructions.

Someone that heard from Yahweh directly had insufficient knowledge

Can you prove that Moses had insufficient knowledge

Defend Yahweh all you want but the truth is...He is a bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser and psychopath.

This is not just about Moses.
Read everything in old testament and you'll see Yahweh's true colours.
He is a monster.

He murdered innocent babies and little children, he commited genocide so why should i be suprised about his hatred for gays

Na his way be that.

damosky12:
You checked long time ago. The last time I checked, Jesus came to present the father (you call Him Yahweh?) to us in clear terms. He proved to us that Moses said many of the things he said based on the limited understanding of God at that time. If He had been completely correct on God, Jesus wouldn't have needed to come.
See instances...


John 1:17
For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

Matthew 19:7-8
[7]They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
[8]He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.




That is why Christians are not Jew. The Christian God is indeed the God of the Jews at that time... but He was completely understood before Jesus came.


Gays are loved and forgiven by God. Not to be stoned.

Who gave the law to Moses
Go and read Old Testament.
Moses did not wake up and start writing laws upandan.
Yahweh gave him instructions.
Yahweh was the one who gave rules and regulations as to how the isrealites should live their lives.
Moses then wrote down the laws.

So stop blaming Moses for Yahweh's stupid and barbaric laws.

Last time i checked Yahweh's words never change.
He is the same yesterday, today and forever.

Heaven and earth will pass away but my words will not pass away.
Mathew 24:35.

damosky12:
The last time I checked, the man is not a Jew. He is a Christian.

Now, the Christian man is asked to love ALL men.

Galatians 5:13-14
[13]For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
[14]For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.


1 John 4:4,18-21
[4]Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
[18]There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
[19]We love him, because he first loved us.
[20]If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
[21]And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.


Know the difference between Moses and Christ.

Last time i checked Yahweh is the christian god.
Moses did not command people to stone gays.
Yahweh himself, yes the same Yahweh you worship, asked people to slaughter gays.