OK2NVME:
When you pull a weapon of any form on a cop in the US, you have authorized by your foolishness the use of deadly force.

Since one shot from a gun is considered potentially lethal, cops and civilians defending themselves are encouraged to go all out and empty their clip on you to avoid future expensive law suits seeking medical recompense and other b.s. the Jewish lawyer can throw at the cop.

So this is why both civilians and cops facing deadly confrontation shoot to kill and if it takes 30 rounds so be it.

You could not have been more honest. I can categorically tell you that more than 97% of Nairalanders are extremely irrational. The guy is a threat to even his mother. And if he doesn't regard her, why use deadly force on the police?

The race card is extreme bullshit here. If you can pull a knife on the police and despite their attempts to back off, then I see nothing wrong with the cop's decision. There is nothing to investigate here. Pulling knife on another is enough absolvement for any potential death that may ensue.

Afamed:

It still has its disadvantage. The electoral college does not represent the popular votes.
For example Hilary Clinton got over 2m votes ahead of Trump yet she didn't meet the college votes

The electorate vote is the soundest system of voting because it doesn't just give people power to choose representatives, it strongly supports diversity and inclusion.

Imagine if we adopted that in Nigeria.

UCMax1:
So they were authorised to tagg any well dressed young man they see moving about as a yahoo boy and force him to part with some money before he will be allowed to go even they don't see any incriminating stuff on him? or were they authorised to move without uniform and unidentified car,and chase any car being driven by a young man? tell me more lies! who in his right senses would stop when being chased by some unidentified armed men....may you relatives experience sars killing if you support their ineptness

Reforming SARS due to their crude investigative approach is reasonable. Ending SARS? Hell no.

UCMax1:
Just look at the nonsense you just typed! were sars created to go after yahoo boys? ask yourself that question....

I don't really know what the full extent of the responsibility of this police unit. But pre ebdsars, and according to the directive of the IGP, yes they were authorized to search phones. And if they could search phones as a special arm of the police force involving robbery and all kinds of sophisticated robbery of which yahoo is Prime, then yes, the extent of their authority covers dealing with yahoo boys

Kekereekun123:
Truth is gradually coming out. Agreed the government messed up but her reports cause billions in damages. She has to pay for this.



https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157301748647133&id=521907132

If I were financially okay, seriously, I'd sue her ass. She should be sued and ripped of all she owns big time.

superlightning:


Did we tell them not to stop the lawlessness? Your logic is silly.

They extort, harass, rape, obstruct justice, terrorize with their uniform and suddenly they want to present themselves as BEING PERSECUTED? Even you holding brief for them have a serious problem

How do you tell people to stop being lawless without some form of enforcements?

You listed a bunch of vice you think the police are guilty of and I still have to ask you, still from what you listed, does it make them brutal or corrupt?


Are we going to throw the baby with the bath water because the Nigerian police have grossly abused their office? Are we going to demand that a branch of government responsible for enforcing law and order be totally done with because the elements are not as effective as we envision? It seems all endsars agitators are mentally deranged

Throwback:



Where in the acronym SARS is internet fraud?

Was SARS set up to combat internet fraud?

They are a special arm of the police force and the extent of their responsibilities may extend to that.

baby124:
... some people just mad! No need to reason their matter cause you sef go mad

Lol. Rolling on the floor

Biodun556:
destruction over senseless protest

It would have been a bit sensible if the agitations had been for police corruption.

# Endpolicecorruption.

May God judge supporters of this useless protest.

Throwback:


It is on record that I detest Yahoo Boys, but I will never tolerate the continued existence of armed robbers and murderers called SARS.

If there were no yahoo boys, SARS wouldn't be necessary. You don't hate yahoo boys

ruffhandu:
Keep quite there. Have you even made up your mind to stop collecting bribe? You guys deserve the hate. Even when innocent Nigerian see a policeman on uniform his heart skips, because if they lack money they'll just arrest you and brand you a criminal and lock you up until you pay bribe. I know there is a pay day for every wicked soul.

superlightning:


You abandoned the people you were supposed to protect a long time ago...now you are playing reverse psychology. You better face your employers.

backbone503:
“It is clear that people do not like an average policeman".. Thank God they now know.

shammahyaro:
never see anything... mtchewww

PureKach:
No one forced you to become a police man. If you cannot carry out your duty honourably and with the fear of God, oga resign. You talk about your family, the ones you guys are shooting like grass cutters, don't they have families too? Abeg shift

You're the ones who should be quiet.

Was the endsars protest an agitation for police corruption?

Now that the police could not effectively police the lootings by hoodlums because of the directive from above not to shoot, don't you see how their absence breeds anarchy and lawlessness

Which would you rather prefer: A society where the police is very brutal to offenders or a society where everyone polices their own affairs? You guys are so dumb, honestly.

olaboy33:
Looting is an understatement for what happened at the shopping mall in Ilorin.

Ah, ah, ah, ah, bros I have not been in Ilorin for awhile. Was it that bad? I hope it did not affect the main Shoprite sha?

jamze:
Guys, just Google it, you will the available lists for all states

Is it the shortlisted npower applicants?

Aldebaran:
No wonder we have bad leaders in Nigeria.

Why steal people's sweat...

80 percent of Nigerians, both poor and rich, are mentally sick and wicked

Watch them rush to the Mosque on Friday and Church on Sunday to ask for forgiveness.

Lol

History555:


You are a media cow. Since you claim to know all, how many protest have you started. How many of those ills you mentioned have you written on like this. I can bet if people came out saying # no light, no payment of bills. You will still write rubbish calling them fools. Media cows

My brother if it is a real problem, I would always support it. That is what makes an objective fellow or so I claim. In my write-up, I listed epileptic power supply as one of the main problems bedevilling Nigeria so why would I call them out. It is a real cause of concern bro and that is what reasonable law-abiding citizens should be agitating for. Just because I have not started any protest doesn't mean I should endorse any protest. It. Doesn't. Make. Any. Sense.

If people would disturb public peace and gain the sympathy of many sensible Nigerians, it should be for causes of pressing concern to the populace.

Even the Aisha Yesufu, Davido and co should be arrested and prosecuted.

Pierocash:
I see a post from someone who is far from the reality on ground.

Police brutality has become a pandemic in Nigeria. It is somebody that is alive that will talk of job and corruption.

There is nothing like police identifying a hotspot because they are trained, they arrest anybody that looks like he has something to offer, if SARS or other police unit arrests 100 persons, only one or two committed a minor offence, the rest are simply innocent people they want to make money from.

Police and SARS by extension is another authorise cult,and hoodlums in our society robbing, killing,and maiming innocent souls.

Let's put an end to that first, others will follow

Mr. you're not being objective. There are other pressing issues in this country not police brutality. More than 90‰ of Nigerians have never spent a day in a police cell so what are you saying. And more than 95% have not been jailed twice in the same year so which pandemic are you talking about?

The only time most people encounter the police is during inter-state travel and cases of civil disobedience. There is nothing brutal about the police because only lawless and hard-boiled criminals encounter them often. We are bearing the brunt of inflation and rising food prices. Buhari is favouring his people over others. There is rising insecurity and the likes. If sensible law abiding citizens were to storm the streets, that should be one of the last thing on their minds for now.

Mr. If the police arrest you among others, there is good reasons for that even if you are innocent. It is either you are at the crime scene at the moment crime happened, or you are friends and acquaintances to the criminals being arrested or other reasons that helps the investigative process. That is not brutality. It is a standard practice practiced by law enforcement all over the world.

Wait, is it police brutality or police corruption? My brother unless you are not Nigerian-based, the average Nigerian has seen it play out time and time and again that the real ills in the police force is its corruption. You are travelling from A to B and it is more likely that no one would harass or even disturb you if you slip that N50 notes. It is just what it is. Bail is supposed to be free but you have to pay to free yourselves. That is the corruption among others we are talking about. Even the most hardened criminal would not be victimized if he slips the note.



EVERY ENDPOLICE AGITATOR IS A CLOUT CHASER. They are hardly objective or think on their own. So because someone is arguing for a cause that is a big deal to misfits, the lawless, and miscreants, we should protect their cause missing the tree for the forest in a gross act of stupidity. Many people follow herd mentality so I don't see that as a big deal.

Elizersalifu:
Majority of the people here are demanding that those peaceful protesters be killed without trial.

So how are you different from those that perpetrated the lekki saga? Or SARS?

Hypocrites everywhere

So what is a fitting punishment for the crimes they committed?

chinoxstock:

Did you see the video? Yes or no? Did you know the lights went off before they started shooting? Did you see the videos? If you have not seen the videos then fuvk off.

I am going to aasume with you, for the sake of argument, that they killed many people.

Does it justify the deeds of these so-called protesters?

OwenJesse27:

Your a fool ....how much dey pay u to be saying trash here ... zombie

Wise people counter foolish people with fact. If you are wise as you claim to be, your words, however, betray you.

chinoxstock:
You don't have sense. What sparked these protest? Was it not because Sars killed oñe guy and drove off with his car? Then ppl said enough is enough. Then everyone realized they have a Sars story to tell....

You fools are eveywhere these days.

You don't have to resort to insults. Please be civil.


Are you saying what sparked the looting? Don't call looting protest bro.


Now, the protesters didn't protest for a day. Do you know that the acts of protesting would not be approved if it is perceived that hoodlums and miscreants have ulterior motives or would infiltrate their ranks? Say something else bro, these are trained men and would not just kill in public since their permission have to be sought and you weren't there to see how things played out. You don't know. Period. That's how they called it a massacre and everyone believed the great lie.

Maslow has what he rightly calls the hierarchy of needs. He said, in life some things are more important than others.

That's right, and I would say hierarchy of protests!!!

Imagine a farmer whose income has been cut off because the president has made local consumption of food product a taboo. If this farmer storms the street screaming WAEC must reduce students' fees. WAEC must.... lol. He is all over the place screaming about what he perceives as discrimination. Now, if you know this farmer you'd probably be like "sir, are you really okay?" "Is that what you should be concerned about now?"

I mean, you would be wondering if he's in his right frame of mind.


Yesterday I was watching NTA and I saw a group of women whose husbands/sons were police officers. They held placards, chanting, "Stop killing our husbands" "Stop killing our sons" I mean, it makes sense. One was even moved to tears there and she was just lamenting.

Now suppose you knew one of these women whose husband and son died as a result of killings meted on police officers and suppose she joins in a protest, not the one I watched on NTA, another one, chanting and screaming, "We want Jonathan back! We want him back!" it would still make sense to a pro-Jonathan activist which you are, but then, even then, if you know her very well, it still would not make any sense, or better put, she would be acting senseless and without any wisdom.

I am afraid, that is the case of the EndSars protest.

Just to digress a little: some people are so eager to support any cause that's against the government whether it makes any sense or not, whether it is a cause for grave concern or not and I have seen that play out again and again and again and again on Nairaland. Everything the government does is wrong, can't be right, so they feel it is right to challenge every thing the government represents and does.

It is not alright.

Now back to the Endsars scam, is police brutality among the first 5 cause of concern to the average Nigerian?

If you hit the streets now and take a survey about Nigeria's woes, you would get answers ranging from no jobs, no electricity, gross nepotism by the president, rising inflation, falling of the naira, Buhari's resignation, dirty politics, family matters, etc. A combination of these I must honestly admit would top the list of survey takers.

I mean, even if you live in an estate with 247 power and power is not your problem, you are probably having to buy a derica of rice at 1500 naira contrary to the president's campaign promise.


It just doesn't make any sense that a lot of youths are hitting the streets in protest of police brutality and not the president's incompetence and others. It is also noteworthy that people have protested about the other problems I raised, but it never gained traction, it was not protested simultaneously in different states.

And even if we have to protest about the ills of the police, it IS NOT THE POLICE BRUTALITY.

The main ills of the Nigerian police force is its corruption, not its brutality. I mean the taking of bribes and the likes. Chai, see how reasonable people have all this backwards. A police is likely to acquit even a criminal if he hands him money. I don't see how people can be screaming against police brutality specifically and not police corruption.

It doesn't make sense.

Back to SARS brutality, SARS can be brutal, no doubt, but they are more at loggerheads with criminals, people who do drugs (because they almost end up fighting among themselves and others). Most police force are aware of hotspots in a state. If they are in Kano, they know where to station themselves because they almost always get calls to mediate there. Similar to other states.

I'm saying if Nigerians have to protest, it should not be about police brutality at all. There are other pressing issues to make demands on. And even if there is going to be protests about the ills of the police, police brutality is not as important a subject of grave concern as its corruption and recruitment.

Emdsars is nothing but a scam. We can see through this useless attempt to destabilize this country.

What you think? As a law abiding citizen, how many times have you complained about the police this year before endsars became an issue? It seems some people are just trying to replicate the problems of some advanced economy to gain sympathy. I would have been more sympathetic if the cause was endbad governance or lower food prices.

Horus:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/12558988_buhari_jpeg124530d5bd433c751b175a8e21349689

Lol you have the most perfect depictions lol

Please can I attach this image to the write-up?

We4all:
The Government is smarter than you think. They can't order "shoot at sight" for now cos that will be used against them. They are busy having a good laugh whilst they watch as we display our stupidity by being our own enemies.

It is the government's responsibility to protect its citizens. There is hardly anything smart about this.

Reinaldo:
Some people need to realise we are no longer in the 17th century.

Tell that to the looters, please. If these looters realized that we are not in the 17th century where idiots would just storm a village and call stolen proceeds "plunder," they would not have called this a protest.

I am neither pro nor anti APC/Buhari and I keep mute for most of the president's policies and decisions in the past 5 years.

If you carefully read my NL posts, you may conclude that I am pro APC/Buhari because I go against the grain sometimes, but as an extremely objective Nigerian, I'd be extremely honest.

This man has proven to be a grand disaster

And the occurrence in the past few days proves it.

The president is a pacifist (lover of peace) in acts of civil lawlessness and disobedience and is true to his beliefs even when things were going south and people were losing their investments

This is, to me, of course, to prevent getting called out for being biased. After all, what is good for the goose is also good for the gander.


I mean, if he's lenient on Bokoharam and even makes dangerous provisions for rehabilitating them, why shouldn't he do same for this bunch of hecklers who come from God knows where?

It would quickly be clouded with ethnic and religious undertones with people saying they are shooting/dealing mercilessly with protesters for protesting but rehabilitating bokoharam, so he has to appeal to his conscience and the pacifist circles who see him as a hero and the decisions he takes as good.

That's why the president followed suit, fold hands in the beginning and even arrange free hospital care for looters, lol, instead of dealing mercilessly with them. He is a pacifist to all Nigerians, after all.

But this is a very, very unsound decision because rehabilitating and pardoning bokoharam is very unsound, but hey, they just have to be consistent.

Instead of commanding the military to deal mercilessly and if necessary shoot criminals, he has probably forgotten that he is in charge.

See videos of several burnt cars, stolen goats, broken homes, weeds, palliative (there is no justifiable reasons to steal a stolen product), offices getting ransacked, see the tears of the victims, see police officers getting dealt with, stations burnt, places ransacked, banks looted, see TV stations torched, churches burnt (it happened in Kano) and this man didn't still realize he is in charge because he loves peace.


What a disaster as the president.

RosyIsBlessed:


May the God of Justice visit them all with vengeance. In their abundance of loot they will remain in want and tattered till they seize to exist in this world. Amen.

If you undo your fellow civilian struggling to live like you what then were you fighting the government for?

Nothing excites me like fighting for a good causes. And I don't get more angry than when people hijack good causes for their own selfish interest.


May God Almighty see what these criminals have done and judge them for it.

Brother, God is not wicked. Human conscience demands that there's a judgement otherwise we are living in a universe of injustice.

emeijeh:
Heartless looters.
If it was only the Oba's palace and the warehouses where palliatives were kept that were looted, i don't have a problem with that.


Wetin common man come do dem?

You are part of the problem, sir.

So how are they supposed to discern areas that are likely to be lootable? Because that's what you are saying, basically. If they had looted Tinubu's house hoping to cart away with things and found nothing, would the action have been justified?

CoderX:
I support shoot on sight for any criminal found burning properties and looting.

Those are the ones who ruined everything... Very soon they'll start entering homes and robbing and raping young and old women. Mass unemployment and insecurity is around the corner... Don't keep supporting this monster that has degenerated cos it's already biting back at people!!!

I created a thread in support of your bolded here:

https://www.nairaland.com/6196235/still-support-endsars-vandalism-then

Disguiseman:

Who paid you fool!

Lol.

edoairways:

Who paid you?

Like, are you being willfully stupid or what?

Who paid me to believe there was no massacre? Absence of facts.

Show proof bro. Let's see the proofs you have got that there was a massacre. Stop believing empty talks.

This is the case of Delphidus and Julian the Emperor. Delphidus accusing another person about what he couldn't prove.

"Oh, illustrious Caesar!" he said, " if it is sufficient to deny charges, what will become of the guilty?” to which Julian the Emperor replied, “If it sufficient to be accused, who can be innocent?”

You are the paid propagandist. Believing hook, line and sinker without a shred of proof.


Besides, does military clampdown, if at all there was killing, warrant the slew of lawlessness and wickedness perpetuated by these so-called miscreants?

Thank you very much for your unbiased submission.


First off, protesting in the night? Big red flag. I mean, which legitimate cause is being agitated for in the night? It doesn't make any... sense.

Secondly, if people have died as a result of the militarys' gunshots, it would almost be impossible to hide evidence. Not in a place like Lekki.

Where are the corpses?

It (fake news) spreads fast because people want to imagine the scenario acting out real, so they kind of imagine it and so they believe it to be true, which would fuel justified wanton looting.

One hoodlum that night is probably going, "ah ah, they are shooting, hmm, so they must have killed somebody"

It's just the human way of justifying what it would otherwise have done. Even if the massacre happened, it is to be expected. If you put your life on the line for Nigeria or any country, expect to poof at anytime.

Foolishbuhari:


Na your fada be criminal!

Mr. to slap you 100 times dey scratch me seriously.

Peaceful protesters, you say? All of those protesters are criminals, no exceptions. Not even the recipients of the plunder. They are all criminals. Who should be held responsible: hoodlums or the same peaceful protesters for the burnings and properties destruction both of private and government entities? This is the, for lack of a better word, worstest presidential decision I have experienced in my lifetime.