₦airaland Forum

DeepZone:
As long as there is a global price for oil set by OPEC, does it really matter whom you sale to?

YES! YES! YES! The United States is currently the largest buyer of oil, but when you look at China and look at how fast urbanization is taking place there, the demand for oil to fuel cars is going to EXPLODE! It's all about demand, which China is going to control in the coming years (before 2010)

DeepZone:
I thought you were suggesting if we exploit our trade agreements with China more than we do with America but Obasanjo did set that pace before the Northerners came in again and scattered the whole thing. That's why Obasanjo fixed Nigeria's economy to a considerable extent but my regret now is that YaraMugu will spoil the whole thing within 3 years.

I agree what you're suggesting about Yar'Adua, the future looked very bright especially with Chinese investment. He makes it very difficult for companies who aren't American to trade with Nigeria. There are so many good things that will come out of China-Nigeria trade relations, it's sad Nigeria doesn't take advantage of this VAST opportunity.

[center]The Worlds fastest growing economies:

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African nations dominate the list of the fastest growing economies. Sadly, I think Equatorial Guinea will soon fall out of that list, because American oil demand is what fuels the growth of their economy, and their leader made many horrible decisions in the past. American oil companies make the vast majority of their oil profits because EQ never set up a proper National oil company, but the situation now isn't anywhere close to it was in the ninety's, when American companies took 95% of Equatorial Guinea's oil profits.

I wouldn't doubt Sudan has the largest oil deposits on Earth. That countries oil is vastly unexplored, and their climate gives many hints that the country is tremendously rich in oil. I just hope they set up a national oil company, and model their system after Angola. China and Sudan have a huge trade partnership also, and in the coming years, don't be surprised if you see Sudan turn into the next Dubai. Chinese oil demands are not even close to starting.

Angola is just an African success story so far. This country just came out of a civil war, and all the stuf coming out of that country is just amazing. The government is investing billions into rebuilding the country, providing social housing for all who need it (250,000 units/year), investing heavily in schools, health, police, military, and rebuilding the capital (Luanda). They have their own Nationalized oil company (Sonangol) who reaps the majority of oil benefits, and they set up a law to where any foreign oil company who wants to do business there, has to sign a contract through Sonangol.

Angola is the largest supplier of oil to China, and their relationship grows more and more everyday. China gave Angola a $10 Billion dollar line of credit to help restore infrastructure, and invest in a farming program that's so far helped over 8 million families. China International Fund, which is a specific company that works in Angola, is investing Billions of dollars to rebuild their capital Luanda, and it's just amazing.

Here's the website link: http://www.chinainternationalfund.com/

Even though Angola is relatively young in their road to become a prosperous nation, I know for a fact Nigeria can learn MANY lessons from Angolan leaders, and how they appropriate funds.

The reason I wrote all of this, is to give people examples of all the positives that comes with trading with China, the future world power, and the country that spreads its wealth without trying to control your country. Countries like Nigeria, and others who have large deposits of oil should really get closer to China, because like I've said before, their oil demands are nowhere near close to getting started.

No we didn't. We export 52.5% of our products to the United States, which is the MAJORITY. Nigeria on the other hand imports 10% of their products from China (which is bad because Chinese products are crap). We could have been in a better situation if the current president wouldn't have slashed all the investment China could have put in Nigeria, for example a $50 Billion dollar investment by China was proposed 2 years ago, but nothing has ever been said about it since.

Countries like Angola, Sudan, and DR Congo have relations with the US, but most of their investment and trade comes from China. Angola is the worlds fastest growing economy, and Sudan is on the top 10 also. Countries like Panama, Columbia, Japan, and countless European nations will feel the fall of the economic downturn of America. Others who know where the future money is going to be, are growing at astronomical rates.

If Nigeria were to get closer to China, I guarantee double-digit economic growth will the ever increasing need for oil there. Angola is their largest supplier of oil, and they actually prefer their oil to others. Now, if Nigeria were to get in with China, can you imagine all the trade/investment when over ONE BILLION people are demanding oil for their cars?

Why do you have such discontent to Bob Marley getting a street named after him? Are you a hater or something? I fail to see your point.

lol, you're so confused. Just because a company is in another country doesn't mean it's a company of that respective country. Wherever the company's main headquarters is located, that is where that country is from. Your remedial excuse of "I don't have time" is a mere disguise for saying you know you've been cornered once again, and I wouldn't be surprised if your next move was to drown this thread with meaningless satellite images.

loser.

Nigeria and South Africa shouldn't have been so dependent on America, and should have made the smart decision and get close to China. Economies in Africa like Angola, Sudan, and DR Congo, who have growing business relations with China, are having their economies boom right now. China is also booming, growing at 8-9% a year, and it's economy shows no sign of slowing, neither do Angola, Sudan, and DR Congo with the before 2 being amongst the worlds fastest growing economies.

America's economic downturn largely effects countries who solely rely on trade/investment with them, more often than not, many others still continue to rise. Iran, India, Brazil, are also examples.

No not at all, why are you so agitated by it? Bob Marley is a worldwide celebrity, and his music brings together the masses, decades after his death.

[quote author=nigeria1@/ link=topic=175325.msg2848887#msg2848887 date=1222282683]blackspade you are really uneducated.[/quote]Oh really, so if I'm "uneducated", then you must be. . . . ? lol

[quote author=nigeria1@/ link=topic=175325.msg2848887#msg2848887 date=1222282683]i am done with you. i am busy. i have no time for you. you do not know what the word parent company means, na papa and pinkin habi, go school, shell nigeria is a child of shell headquarter. shell headquater is the parent company. nearly 40% of hollywood films are shoot in canada. the film chicago was shoot in canada and not chicago. Come shoot movies in canada and joint the afri fest , contact me , i have friends to help nigeria produces out.[/quote]I do know what a parent company is, but a sovereign nation can't be a "Parent company" over another. Your example you posted above makes no sense, try again though, I don't want you to continue on your "conquest of ignorance". Do you care to correct yourself before I do?

DRANOEL:
what has pix got to do with this? go back to pre-primary

Absolutely nothing, haven't you noticed that whenever "Nigeria1" is backed into a corner, he posts those meaningless satellite images? lol

[quote author=nigeria1@/ link=topic=175325.msg2848697#msg2848697 date=1222280222]blackspade you see, i say you be olodo, so if they are america channels , does that mean they do not have them in canada. go school.[/quote]I am well aware of that, but you stated they were "Canadian Home Television Stations", which they're not. Those stations are American import channels that are carried by Canadian Cable/Satellite Networks. Now, you go back to school (I suggest primary, you need extra help!)

[quote author=nigeria1@/ link=topic=175325.msg2848697#msg2848697 date=1222280222]we have the same service with canadian content. google is in the usa and also there is google in canada, there is going in japan and other countries. it is just that the parent company of this stations are own by the USA. they can have them too in nigeria.[/quote]Again, Google is an American object that was imported worldwide. Google is it's own company, it has no "Parent Company", please fact check before you try and pass your here-say as fact, I don't want people who don't know you're a dimwit to take you seriously.

I can't wait until Zuma takes office, South Africa needs a socialist/populist like him to drastically bring down their unemployment rate, and actually worry about the people. Mbeki has paid too much attention to private business investment, and basically ignored the HIV/AIDS epedemic, and really didn't pay enough attention to the people who needed attention the most. He did start a program to replace shantytowns by achieving a certain quota of replacement housing a year, but he hasn't brought in enough jobs, nor has he paid enough attention to education.

They have these "Black Empowerment" laws, but that mostly limits Black Africans to jobs like construction and such. I feel if Mbeki would have invested more into education, that would do much more for the Black South African group, because it will create a huge number of skilled workers, who could vastly replace the need for White workers. Just my 2cents.

ZUMA '09!

[quote author=Nigeria1@; link=topic=175325.msg2848039#msg2848039 date=1222271725]How many uneducated people help to bring into canadian home television stations from coast to coast television station like TMN ,Food network, National geographic, Anime network, YTV Anime, WWE, Howard stern, HGTv, Super channel, NFL ,Too much, Treehouse, Omni etc

how many of your nigerian people do that?.[/quote]lol, Food Network, National Geographic, Animal Network, WWE, HGTW, Super Channel, NFL Network, and Howard Stearn Network are all American television stations. I suggest you stop trying to come off as an intellectual, because you're obviously not. You should also fact-check before you post, you're horrible!

I agree, he is the biggest joke since Mpele, and that guy who wants to be African-American so bad.

Bob Marley is a legend! I always listen to him while getting comfortable with the Dagga.

Nigeria is both a developing third world country.

If you think stealing Africa's natural resources, segregating Africans in their homeland, and drawing up nations that ended up having civil wars because of previous cultural differences was good for Africa, than that's your demented view on things.

My opinion of Colonialism, is that it was the worst thing to happen to Africa after the Atlantic slave trade. Colonists embarked on our lands at first to gather slaves (sold by Africans, but still bad). Later on after the slave trade, many European nations partook in "The scramble for Africa", where they created colonies, and made indigenous Africans build their new societies, and at the same time making them live in townships outside of the city (in most cases). Irresponsible colonists also did no research when they decided to draw maps of these new colonies, and didn't think twice about who or what could happen if the two come together.

Many if not all civil wars in Africa can be blamed on the carelessness of colonists who decided to draw maps of countries that would fail in the future. For that one reason is why you have many African nations who have split ie. Mali, East Africa, Congo, etc. . . You also have former states like India which included Pakistan and Bangladesh at one point, but ended up splitting.

To conclude, the only good thing that came out of colonialism is the infrastructure it left when it was destroyed. The rest about colonialism, I absolutely hate, and wish it never happened. I also don't mind when "colonist descendent's" leave our lands en mass, ie. Afrikaners, Angolan-Portuguese, French Ghanaian, etc. . .

Why don't these gentlemen invest in helping Naija first, then buy a soccer team?

If £400,000,000 were to be put into a fund to help further develop, they could see that money come back 10-fold.

Kobojunkie:
You really think this should be the way to go for a people? How did you come to the point where you deem this ‘suitable’ government?

No I don't, if I had it my way fair democracy would reign, but this is not the case as we all know. I rather have witnessed the two a deal sign, than have another African civil war that everyone knows was brewing.

bawomolo:
large working population? 30 percent of zimbabweans have ran away and more are still sneaking through the south african border. the one's left are pretty much unskilled workers.

Sorry, I meant to say "large working age population" which Zimbabwe has, and would be great for when rebuilding their economy again.

Kobojunkie:
great infrastructure? is this 1990 or 2008?

Don't let all the bad news in the media fool you, Zimbabwe easily is in the top 5 list on who has the best infrastructure in Africa. Our infrastructure pales in comparison to Zimbabwe's. This will be a huge advantage when they start the process of reconstructing their country.

landis:
what beats me is why AFRICAN nations are not there making all the 'deals'

We always wait for the WEST. Imagine concession Dangote would have made in this country!!!

The "West" thinks they rule the politics of the world, because in turn they rule the economy (But that's coming to an end soon)

landis:
I heared the WEST are on standby for Mugabe to die to rush back in.

When EU was down after 1945, US pumped everything into it: its called Investment.

Great Britain has proposed giving Zimbabwe £1,000,000 if they have proof Mugabe is not in charge of all decisions.

I've never used bleaching creme, if you have that's fine, but I doubt anyone in this thread has used it

That has nothing to do with here or there. How do you explain Pakistan and India having nuclear weapons? Coincidence? I think not, that statement you made has nothing to do with here or there, just a failed justification.

Also, elaborate more on how I may be a "hypocrite". Having a hard time making a point?

I wish they would look at these people as human beings and not criminals. People have to realize that 99% of illegal immigrants entering Europe are going looking for a way to survive because they can't find any other way in Africa. I wish they would set up some type of program where the Africans would get a chance to be settled legally, and work their way to citizenship. It's not their fault they can't find the necessary outlets to be considered a "skilled migrant", it' the governments fault. As always, I wish they would stop just kicking our people out for trying to survive.

Good for Iran. They're a sovereign nation, who is anyone to tell a man in charge what to do? This isn't a world order yet, but it's sure starting to feel like one. Israel says they don't have nukes, but everyone knows that's a flat out lie, and Iran has the right as a nation to develop arms (that haven't been proven yet, but still) to protect themselves.

China is indeed amazing. The moves they're pulling in this day in age, is what's going to allow China to become the world's wealthiest nation, having almost twice the wealth of the USA. Good for China, European rule over the world economy is soon coming to an end.

Good for you.

Extreme contrast!

Well, with all that infrastructure work going on, I know for a fact thousands of jobs will be crated. People who feel they would be left unemployed should try and contact the firm who is constructing the highway.

I for one am happy the infrastructure in Lagos is being upgrade, because the last time I was there, traffic was HORRENDOUS! Believe it or not, having good infrastructure, especially in large cities like Lagos is a huge boost in business, and attracts more potential customers. It also gives room for redevelopment and slum replacement that is desperately needed in Lagos too, without good infrastructure how would construction take place?

Mpele, shut the hell up you fraud. You still aren't man enough to confront me in a thread I basically called you out on. Continue being a coward, I'll just leave you in your hallucinative state of thinking you're somehow important. Peace, hopefully you'll find a new outlet to get over your obsessions.

I'm blacknificent. Don't hate on me, learn to appreciate me.

Black Americans are 14% of American population, but they've recently been overtaken by Hispanics who are close to 16% of the population. Asian are nowhere near making Blacks the third largest minoirty, they only comprise about 5% of American population. Asians and Hispanics grow faster, but Black immigration is the fastest growing immigrant group in America in terms of percentage.

Where I live, Blacks are the third largest minority. California is 36% Hispanic, 12% Asian, and 7% Black. At my city and university, Blacks are not in the minority, and over these last two semesters I've noticed more Black students enrolling, and they're not all immigrants neither.

Blacks are the fastest growing middle class in America too, it's evident also because many inner city Blacks are moving out to the suburbs nationwide, and many are being replaced by immigrant groups, mostly Mexicans, Jamaicans, Haitians, Guatemalans, Colombians, Ghanaian, etc.

To conclude, Blacks are not stagnating in terms of being upwardly mobile. That's a preposterous thing to say in my opinion, when you look at the rapidly growing purchasing power and voting power of the Black American group.

North Africa doesn't have the largest population in Africa. Egypt has the second largest population, but Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, and Morocco have some of the smallest populations out of the whole continent. Regions like West Africa and East Africa have much greater populations, even without counting the ones who go uncounted.

Si, mi espanol va mucho mejor despues concluir leccions

Why don't these gentlemen invest in helping Naija first, then buy a soccer team?

If £350,000,000 were to be put into a fund to help further develop, they could see that money come back 10-fold.